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RE: Did EMU MBB have an intra-squad scrimmage today?
(10-17-2021 06:40 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(10-17-2021 01:40 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(10-17-2021 01:10 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Murphy First Year
Backcourt
5-10 Darrell Lampley
6-3 Derrick Thompson
6-3 Antonio Green
6-3 JR Sims
6-3 Quinten Dailey
ADDED: 6-3 Austin Harper
Frontcourt
6-11 Jamel Harris
6-10 Matt Balkema
6-10 Kamil Janton
ADDED: 7-0 Deshontae Riley

Utterly insane that this team won their division. Darrell Lampley was the only player who averaged more than 10 PPG.

Murphy won the division that year with freaking 9-7 record! Yep ONE whole win better than a .500 record. The MAC West coaching club have division champ banners hanging in their rafters "honoring" their mediocre performance due to the MAC's antiquated two division system. Murph's team followed this 9-7 "champion" performance with a less than glorious one and out in the MAC tourney, it was hardly a good team.

No one said they were a good team. I think that’s the whole point. I mean, they finished 5th in the MAC when they were projected to finish 12th. I agree that they went a bit too far with the rings and the banner, but that was a massive accomplishment that no one saw coming. Murphy deserved every bit of the MAC COTY that he won that season.
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(10-17-2021 02:23 PM)Miggy Wrote:  
(10-17-2021 02:04 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Murphy had the 2-3 in other words a system that other teams weren't ready for. A gimmick if you will kinda like Princeton had. The 2-3 allowed Murphy to win with essentially Ramsey's talent while Murphy's first set of transfers sat out.

I don't think Heath has a new system that will baffle his opponents looks pretty generic to me. In terms of talent Heath has returning talent than Murphy had his first year but better fresh talent.

Heath’s G-league pro-offense that won the G-league Championship looked very effective. Whether EMU players can master it remains to be seen. Coaches letting players know about mistakes, and that’s a good thing. He has players that will be difficult to stop from scoring at the rim. Will be looking to see if EMU can as a team shoot 50 percent plus on two’s, and be in top MAC teams in taking foul shots. Believe EMU will do just fine hitting three’s.

Defensively, want to see EMU on defense average 8-plus steals per game which should lead to easy hoops, and EMU keeping conference opponents to shooting less than 44 percent on two’s.

We will see soon won't we?
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Yeesh, why is everyone so touchy about a little optimism. Sam pointed out that Murphy’s success came quick (first year was his third best) despite low expectations. I was further pointing out that on paper Heath has a better first year roster (mainly due to players he and staff brought in). So you never know…
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(10-17-2021 09:13 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Yeesh, why is everyone so touchy about a little optimism. Sam pointed out that Murphy’s success came quick (first year was his third best) despite low expectations. I was further pointing out that on paper Heath has a better first year roster (mainly due to players he and staff brought in). So you never know…

That optimism borders on obsession Ramy given the number of posts in another thread and without much basis in fact. Hey I hope we do well but I believe the rebuilding will take another two years. Heath has added some pieces next year and IF he can recruit some more pieces in 2022 and 2023 we should see progress in his third and fourth years. Having six frosh on your roster is not a the quick reload option. See CMU if you want an example of quick reload. I've explained why Murphy was successful in his first year despite inheriting Ramsey's lesser talent based solely on the 2-3 zone. Honestly Murphy inherited a better roster than Heath did. One of the key differences was that Murphy inherited an experienced and decent point guard. Heath doesn't have anyone on this roster near Lampley's ability. Murphy's first year "recruiting" included a number of talented transfers who sat out and moved the team forward rather quickly. Heath has some talented transfers with immediate ability that has come in but so has EVERY other team in the MAC. I hope we are "pleasantly surprised". Honestly I just see what to this team jell and improve throughout the season.
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To say McBride isn’t near Lampley’s ability, let alone others on the roster, is completely and utterly laughable. I’m hoping you’re just trying to troll Miggy, because that’s ridiculous.

With all due respect to Lampley, who I enjoyed watching, he averaged 13 points 36/30/84 shooting that one season. I thought McBride underachieved last year, and he STILL put up 13.7 on 39/34/84. Come on man. You can be pessimistic about the season while not exaggerating.
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(10-18-2021 07:13 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  To say McBride isn’t near Lampley’s ability, let alone others on the roster, is completely and utterly laughable. I’m hoping you’re just trying to troll Miggy, because that’s ridiculous.

With all due respect to Lampley, who I enjoyed watching, he averaged 13 points 36/30/84 shooting that one season. I thought McBride underachieved last year, and he STILL put up 13.7 on 39/34/84. Come on man. You can be pessimistic about the season while not exaggerating.

McBride isn't even a true point Sam. We are talking about returnees from a team that won what 3 D1 games last year? But hey Murphy's first year was,14-18 and 9-7. Lets see what Heath can do his first year with your "better talent".
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Lampley wasn’t a true PG either lol. I think you and I remember him quite differently.
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When Murphy inherited Lampley at point guard he had a PG that 1. is more talented than Heath has in Spottsville 2. More experienced than Heath has in Luka. McBride isn't a comparison because anyone watching EMU hoops knows McBride is a shooting guard not a point guard.
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(10-18-2021 11:49 AM)emu79 Wrote:  When Murphy inherited Lampley at point guard he had a PG that 1. is more talented than Heath has in Spottsville 2. More experienced than Heath has in Luka. McBride isn't a comparison because anyone watching EMU hoops knows McBride is a shooting guard not a point guard.

And if you watched Lampley, you’d know he wasn’t a “point guard” either. I don’t know why this is so hard for you to grasp. Neither guy facilitates much. They’re both score-first players, and McBride was slightly better at it than Lampley was.
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When Murphy inherited Lampley at point guard he had a PG that 1. is more talented than Heath has in Spottsville 2. More experienced than Heath has in Luka. McBride isn't a comparison because anyone watching EMU hoops knows McBride is a shooting guard not a point guard.
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(10-18-2021 12:04 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 11:49 AM)emu79 Wrote:  When Murphy inherited Lampley at point guard he had a PG that 1. is more talented than Heath has in Spottsville 2. More experienced than Heath has in Luka. McBride isn't a comparison because anyone watching EMU hoops knows McBride is a shooting guard not a point guard.

And if you watched Lampley, you’d know he wasn’t a “point guard” either. I don’t know why this is so hard for you to grasp. Neither guy facilitates much. They’re both score-first players, and McBride was slightly better at it than Lampley was.

Great point, Sam. I believe the main reason Lampley was point guard was because he was only 5’10” (or around that). In fairness, he also handled the ball well. Otherwise, he was the primary scoring option rather than a distributor.
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(10-18-2021 05:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(10-17-2021 09:13 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Yeesh, why is everyone so touchy about a little optimism. Sam pointed out that Murphy’s success came quick (first year was his third best) despite low expectations. I was further pointing out that on paper Heath has a better first year roster (mainly due to players he and staff brought in). So you never know…

That optimism borders on obsession Ramy given the number of posts in another thread and without much basis in fact. Hey I hope we do well but I believe the rebuilding will take another two years. Heath has added some pieces next year and IF he can recruit some more pieces in 2022 and 2023 we should see progress in his third and fourth years. Having six frosh on your roster is not a the quick reload option. See CMU if you want an example of quick reload. I've explained why Murphy was successful in his first year despite inheriting Ramsey's lesser talent based solely on the 2-3 zone. Honestly Murphy inherited a better roster than Heath did. One of the key differences was that Murphy inherited an experienced and decent point guard. Heath doesn't have anyone on this roster near Lampley's ability. Murphy's first year "recruiting" included a number of talented transfers who sat out and moved the team forward rather quickly. Heath has some talented transfers with immediate ability that has come in but so has EVERY other team in the MAC. I hope we are "pleasantly surprised". Honestly I just see what to this team jell and improve throughout the season.

“Borders on Obsession” is somewhat subjective. People have different interests and hobbies. Over-evaluating EMU basketball prospects in the off-season is one of mine.
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(10-18-2021 12:51 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 05:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(10-17-2021 09:13 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Yeesh, why is everyone so touchy about a little optimism. Sam pointed out that Murphy’s success came quick (first year was his third best) despite low expectations. I was further pointing out that on paper Heath has a better first year roster (mainly due to players he and staff brought in). So you never know…

That optimism borders on obsession Ramy given the number of posts in another thread and without much basis in fact. Hey I hope we do well but I believe the rebuilding will take another two years. Heath has added some pieces next year and IF he can recruit some more pieces in 2022 and 2023 we should see progress in his third and fourth years. Having six frosh on your roster is not a the quick reload option. See CMU if you want an example of quick reload. I've explained why Murphy was successful in his first year despite inheriting Ramsey's lesser talent based solely on the 2-3 zone. Honestly Murphy inherited a better roster than Heath did. One of the key differences was that Murphy inherited an experienced and decent point guard. Heath doesn't have anyone on this roster near Lampley's ability. Murphy's first year "recruiting" included a number of talented transfers who sat out and moved the team forward rather quickly. Heath has some talented transfers with immediate ability that has come in but so has EVERY other team in the MAC. I hope we are "pleasantly surprised". Honestly I just see what to this team jell and improve throughout the season.

“Borders on Obsession” is somewhat subjective. People have different interests and hobbies. Over-evaluating EMU basketball prospects in the off-season is one of mine.

Luka S., Spottsville, and McBride will not be EMU’s PGs.

6’2” Farrakhan will likely start at PG for EMU, and 6’5” M.Scott (played PG last season at Portland State) will back-him up when not playing SG. Both are far better PGs than Lampley was.

Hard to understand anyone impressed by Lampley, as he shot a woeful 35 percent on two’s, and only 29 percent on three’s in conference play.

Njie is likely to be EMU’s one true freshman who starts or in the rotation. EMU will put on the court experienced players.
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You had to watch the games. Murphy ran an offense that purposefully took 20 seconds off the shot clock before any meaningful action happened. Lampley often had to fire up contested threes or drive into traffic just to get a shot off before the clock expired. We played a slow brand of basketball so as to not expose our lack of talent and to set up the 2-3, which was anchored by a phenomenal 7’0 center who basically took the entire paint by himself.

Lampley had good games, but often he struggled, and that wasn’t entirely his fault. He was a fun player to watch. But he wasn’t better than Bryce McBride. I can’t speak to the other players, who I haven’t seen play yet.
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(10-18-2021 01:39 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  You had to watch the games. Murphy ran an offense that purposefully took 20 seconds off the shot clock before any meaningful action happened. Lampley often had to fire up contested threes or drive into traffic just to get a shot off before the clock expired. We played a slow brand of basketball so as to not expose our lack of talent and to set up the 2-3, which was anchored by a phenomenal 7’0 center who basically took the entire paint by himself.

Lampley had good games, but often he struggled, and that wasn’t entirely his fault. He was a fun player to watch. But he wasn’t better than Bryce McBride. I can’t speak to the other players, who I haven’t seen play yet.

Not questioning what you witnessed, but Lampley also shot poorly under EMU HC Ramsey.
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(10-18-2021 01:05 PM)Miggy Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 12:51 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 05:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(10-17-2021 09:13 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Yeesh, why is everyone so touchy about a little optimism. Sam pointed out that Murphy’s success came quick (first year was his third best) despite low expectations. I was further pointing out that on paper Heath has a better first year roster (mainly due to players he and staff brought in). So you never know…

That optimism borders on obsession Ramy given the number of posts in another thread and without much basis in fact. Hey I hope we do well but I believe the rebuilding will take another two years. Heath has added some pieces next year and IF he can recruit some more pieces in 2022 and 2023 we should see progress in his third and fourth years. Having six frosh on your roster is not a the quick reload option. See CMU if you want an example of quick reload. I've explained why Murphy was successful in his first year despite inheriting Ramsey's lesser talent based solely on the 2-3 zone. Honestly Murphy inherited a better roster than Heath did. One of the key differences was that Murphy inherited an experienced and decent point guard. Heath doesn't have anyone on this roster near Lampley's ability. Murphy's first year "recruiting" included a number of talented transfers who sat out and moved the team forward rather quickly. Heath has some talented transfers with immediate ability that has come in but so has EVERY other team in the MAC. I hope we are "pleasantly surprised". Honestly I just see what to this team jell and improve throughout the season.

“Borders on Obsession” is somewhat subjective. People have different interests and hobbies. Over-evaluating EMU basketball prospects in the off-season is one of mine.

Luka S., Spottsville, and McBride will not be EMU’s PGs.

6’2” Farrakhan will likely start at PG for EMU, and 6’5” M.Scott (played PG last season at Portland State) will back-him up when not playing SG. Both are far better PGs than Lampley was.

Hard to understand anyone impressed by Lampley, as he shot a woeful 35 percent on two’s, and only 29 percent on three’s in conference play.

Njie is likely to be EMU’s one true freshman who starts or in the rotation. EMU will put on the court experienced players.

Hey Miggy,

I owe you the scrimmage post that I’ve promised but not delivered due to my schedule.

However, let me say this: Noah Farakahn (sp?) matched up against Spottsville in the scrimmage. I respect Spotts’ overall game because he’s a big-strong, quick, athletic guard who plays tough! Spotts Achilles heel right now is his outside shooting but he goes to the rack pretty well and plays tough defense. Noah got the best of Spotts! Noah is I believe 6-1 or 6-2 ?? He got into the lane anytime, Anytime he wanted to and could finish pretty well. His handles are very good and his quickness is very good. The one facet of his game I was impressed with the most was his ability to shoot overtop of Spotts off the dribble. Noah made a deep 3 by taking a jumper off the dribble over Spots when the shot clock ran down. I’m not making any predictions off one scrimmage but it appears Noah will be the most talented PG since Boykins (Better than Jackson and Lampley) at EMU if he can duplicate this performance. I don’t remember him turning the ball over or taking bad shots. Free throws looked good too. Spottsville played very hard during the scrimmage and did a lot of things well but the MVP of scrimmage 1 is Noah! Noah still needs to improve strength and consistency but may earn a spot on the all MAC freshman team.

I was impressed that the whole team played hard!

Njie also looked good in the post …. I would say his footwork is better than James T4, but not as quick, nasty or aggressive as JT4. I was also impressed with 6-10 Randle…..he’s skinny but very athletic - made a 3 pointer, put back dunk, etc works hard in the paint. Will be a big factor in the MAC if he puts on 35-40 LBs. Back to Njie, he controlled the defensive boards very well. He could also be an all-freshman MAC candidate.

Miggy, I owe you more details in a succinct overall analysis. I have not forgotten you :-) Keep your posts coming!

Also, Sam is very well versed in basketball so you could take a lot of what he says as pretty accurate information even though he and I will both agree to disagree sometimes. Sam makes very valid points about not comparing current players stats from Murphy’s system. For example, Lampley was a decent player but had no chance to showcase his talent playing street ball on offense. I believe Noah is better than Lampley even as a freshman.

Monty must have been feeling ill and I will leave it at that.

Okongo, Binelli, Luka and I believe Golson didn’t play in the scrimmage.

More to come and Miggy I love that you’re obsessed with EMU basketball!
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(10-18-2021 01:05 PM)Miggy Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 12:51 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 05:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(10-17-2021 09:13 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Yeesh, why is everyone so touchy about a little optimism. Sam pointed out that Murphy’s success came quick (first year was his third best) despite low expectations. I was further pointing out that on paper Heath has a better first year roster (mainly due to players he and staff brought in). So you never know…

That optimism borders on obsession Ramy given the number of posts in another thread and without much basis in fact. Hey I hope we do well but I believe the rebuilding will take another two years. Heath has added some pieces next year and IF he can recruit some more pieces in 2022 and 2023 we should see progress in his third and fourth years. Having six frosh on your roster is not a the quick reload option. See CMU if you want an example of quick reload. I've explained why Murphy was successful in his first year despite inheriting Ramsey's lesser talent based solely on the 2-3 zone. Honestly Murphy inherited a better roster than Heath did. One of the key differences was that Murphy inherited an experienced and decent point guard. Heath doesn't have anyone on this roster near Lampley's ability. Murphy's first year "recruiting" included a number of talented transfers who sat out and moved the team forward rather quickly. Heath has some talented transfers with immediate ability that has come in but so has EVERY other team in the MAC. I hope we are "pleasantly surprised". Honestly I just see what to this team jell and improve throughout the season.

“Borders on Obsession” is somewhat subjective. People have different interests and hobbies. Over-evaluating EMU basketball prospects in the off-season is one of mine.

Luka S., Spottsville, and McBride will not be EMU’s PGs.

6’2” Farrakhan will likely start at PG for EMU, and 6’5” M.Scott (played PG last season at Portland State) will back-him up when not playing SG. Both are far better PGs than Lampley was.

Hard to understand anyone impressed by Lampley, as he shot a woeful 35 percent on two’s, and only 29 percent on three’s in conference play.

Njie is likely to be EMU’s one true freshman who starts or in the rotation. EMU will put on the court experienced players.

Ramy wow and to think we use 4 scholies for one point guard. We didn't do that with Lampley. But you know what? We still are are recruiting point guards for 2022. In fact my guess is our future point guard is someone we are hoping to sign this year.
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(10-18-2021 03:19 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 01:05 PM)Miggy Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 12:51 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 05:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(10-17-2021 09:13 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Yeesh, why is everyone so touchy about a little optimism. Sam pointed out that Murphy’s success came quick (first year was his third best) despite low expectations. I was further pointing out that on paper Heath has a better first year roster (mainly due to players he and staff brought in). So you never know…

That optimism borders on obsession Ramy given the number of posts in another thread and without much basis in fact. Hey I hope we do well but I believe the rebuilding will take another two years. Heath has added some pieces next year and IF he can recruit some more pieces in 2022 and 2023 we should see progress in his third and fourth years. Having six frosh on your roster is not a the quick reload option. See CMU if you want an example of quick reload. I've explained why Murphy was successful in his first year despite inheriting Ramsey's lesser talent based solely on the 2-3 zone. Honestly Murphy inherited a better roster than Heath did. One of the key differences was that Murphy inherited an experienced and decent point guard. Heath doesn't have anyone on this roster near Lampley's ability. Murphy's first year "recruiting" included a number of talented transfers who sat out and moved the team forward rather quickly. Heath has some talented transfers with immediate ability that has come in but so has EVERY other team in the MAC. I hope we are "pleasantly surprised". Honestly I just see what to this team jell and improve throughout the season.

“Borders on Obsession” is somewhat subjective. People have different interests and hobbies. Over-evaluating EMU basketball prospects in the off-season is one of mine.

Luka S., Spottsville, and McBride will not be EMU’s PGs.

6’2” Farrakhan will likely start at PG for EMU, and 6’5” M.Scott (played PG last season at Portland State) will back-him up when not playing SG. Both are far better PGs than Lampley was.

Hard to understand anyone impressed by Lampley, as he shot a woeful 35 percent on two’s, and only 29 percent on three’s in conference play.

Njie is likely to be EMU’s one true freshman who starts or in the rotation. EMU will put on the court experienced players.

Hey Miggy,

I owe you the scrimmage post that I’ve promised but not delivered due to my schedule.

However, let me say this: Noah Farakahn (sp?) matched up against Spottsville in the scrimmage. I respect Spotts’ overall game because he’s a big-strong, quick, athletic guard who plays tough! Spotts Achilles heel right now is his outside shooting but he goes to the rack pretty well and plays tough defense. Noah got the best of Spotts! Noah is I believe 6-1 or 6-2 ?? He got into the lane anytime, Anytime he wanted to and could finish pretty well. His handles are very good and his quickness is very good. The one facet of his game I was impressed with the most was his ability to shoot overtop of Spotts off the dribble. Noah made a deep 3 by taking a jumper off the dribble over Spots when the shot clock ran down. I’m not making any predictions off one scrimmage but it appears Noah will be the most talented PG since Boykins (Better than Jackson and Lampley) at EMU if he can duplicate this performance. I don’t remember him turning the ball over or taking bad shots. Free throws looked good too. Spottsville played very hard during the scrimmage and did a lot of things well but the MVP of scrimmage 1 is Noah! Noah still needs to improve strength and consistency but may earn a spot on the all MAC freshman team.

I was impressed that the whole team played hard!

Njie also looked good in the post …. I would say his footwork is better than James T4, but not as quick, nasty or aggressive as JT4. I was also impressed with 6-10 Randle…..he’s skinny but very athletic - made a 3 pointer, put back dunk, etc works hard in the paint. Will be a big factor in the MAC if he puts on 35-40 LBs. Back to Njie, he controlled the defensive boards very well. He could also be an all-freshman MAC candidate.

Miggy, I owe you more details in a succinct overall analysis. I have not forgotten you :-) Keep your posts coming!

Also, Sam is very well versed in basketball so you could take a lot of what he says as pretty accurate information even though he and I will both agree to disagree sometimes. Sam makes very valid points about not comparing current players stats from Murphy’s system. For example, Lampley was a decent player but had no chance to showcase his talent playing street ball on offense. I believe Noah is better than Lampley even as a freshman.

Monty must have been feeling ill and I will leave it at that.

Okongo, Binelli, Luka and I believe Golson didn’t play in the scrimmage.

More to come and Miggy I love that you’re obsessed with EMU basketball!

Sscrimmages are great for coaches to figure out systems and depth but tell you nothing about how they will do against another team. Next.
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(10-18-2021 03:19 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(10-18-2021 01:05 PM)Miggy Wrote:  
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(10-17-2021 09:13 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Yeesh, why is everyone so touchy about a little optimism. Sam pointed out that Murphy’s success came quick (first year was his third best) despite low expectations. I was further pointing out that on paper Heath has a better first year roster (mainly due to players he and staff brought in). So you never know…

That optimism borders on obsession Ramy given the number of posts in another thread and without much basis in fact. Hey I hope we do well but I believe the rebuilding will take another two years. Heath has added some pieces next year and IF he can recruit some more pieces in 2022 and 2023 we should see progress in his third and fourth years. Having six frosh on your roster is not a the quick reload option. See CMU if you want an example of quick reload. I've explained why Murphy was successful in his first year despite inheriting Ramsey's lesser talent based solely on the 2-3 zone. Honestly Murphy inherited a better roster than Heath did. One of the key differences was that Murphy inherited an experienced and decent point guard. Heath doesn't have anyone on this roster near Lampley's ability. Murphy's first year "recruiting" included a number of talented transfers who sat out and moved the team forward rather quickly. Heath has some talented transfers with immediate ability that has come in but so has EVERY other team in the MAC. I hope we are "pleasantly surprised". Honestly I just see what to this team jell and improve throughout the season.

“Borders on Obsession” is somewhat subjective. People have different interests and hobbies. Over-evaluating EMU basketball prospects in the off-season is one of mine.

Luka S., Spottsville, and McBride will not be EMU’s PGs.

6’2” Farrakhan will likely start at PG for EMU, and 6’5” M.Scott (played PG last season at Portland State) will back-him up when not playing SG. Both are far better PGs than Lampley was.

Hard to understand anyone impressed by Lampley, as he shot a woeful 35 percent on two’s, and only 29 percent on three’s in conference play.

Njie is likely to be EMU’s one true freshman who starts or in the rotation. EMU will put on the court experienced players.

Hey Miggy,

I owe you the scrimmage post that I’ve promised but not delivered due to my schedule.

However, let me say this: Noah Farakahn (sp?) matched up against Spottsville in the scrimmage. I respect Spotts’ overall game because he’s a big-strong, quick, athletic guard who plays tough! Spotts Achilles heel right now is his outside shooting but he goes to the rack pretty well and plays tough defense. Noah got the best of Spotts! Noah is I believe 6-1 or 6-2 ?? He got into the lane anytime, Anytime he wanted to and could finish pretty well. His handles are very good and his quickness is very good. The one facet of his game I was impressed with the most was his ability to shoot overtop of Spotts off the dribble. Noah made a deep 3 by taking a jumper off the dribble over Spots when the shot clock ran down. I’m not making any predictions off one scrimmage but it appears Noah will be the most talented PG since Boykins (Better than Jackson and Lampley) at EMU if he can duplicate this performance. I don’t remember him turning the ball over or taking bad shots. Free throws looked good too. Spottsville played very hard during the scrimmage and did a lot of things well but the MVP of scrimmage 1 is Noah! Noah still needs to improve strength and consistency but may earn a spot on the all MAC freshman team.

I was impressed that the whole team played hard!

Njie also looked good in the post …. I would say his footwork is better than James T4, but not as quick, nasty or aggressive as JT4. I was also impressed with 6-10 Randle…..he’s skinny but very athletic - made a 3 pointer, put back dunk, etc works hard in the paint. Will be a big factor in the MAC if he puts on 35-40 LBs. Back to Njie, he controlled the defensive boards very well. He could also be an all-freshman MAC candidate.

Miggy, I owe you more details in a succinct overall analysis. I have not forgotten you :-) Keep your posts coming!

Also, Sam is very well versed in basketball so you could take a lot of what he says as pretty accurate information even though he and I will both agree to disagree sometimes. Sam makes very valid points about not comparing current players stats from Murphy’s system. For example, Lampley was a decent player but had no chance to showcase his talent playing street ball on offense. I believe Noah is better than Lampley even as a freshman.

Monty must have been feeling ill and I will leave it at that.

Okongo, Binelli, Luka and I believe Golson didn’t play in the scrimmage.

More to come and Miggy I love that you’re obsessed with EMU basketball!

Gee Lucky how many years do you think it will take Randle to put on 30 to 40 pounds? Think he is ready this season at 210?
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Kinda wonder on this year's team where the rebounds are going to come from?
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