(10-07-2021 12:42 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-06-2021 11:28 AM)VolCajun Wrote:  

(10-06-2021 10:55 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  Mountain West Staves Off AAC, Keeps Boise State, San Diego State, Air Force & Colorado State In Conference

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/moun...rado-state

ACTIONNETWORK.COM

BRETT MCMURPHY - OCTOBER 1, 2022

"After weeks of discussions between the Mountain West’s top four schools and the American, the Mountain West managed to stave off the AAC and stay intact.

AAC commish Mike Aresco said his league “has not offered membership to any institution. Our process for considering potential members remains deliberate, strategic & focused on the continued proven success of our conference.”

After the exits of Cincinnati, UCF and Houston, the AAC will be down to eight members. Among its only options would be from Conference USA or the Sun Belt.

At the top of the list is UAB and, perhaps, Charlotte, with several other schools from both leagues in play once the AAC decides which path to proceed."

“We’re still determining who, and how many is still up in the air,” an AAC source said. “Anything from two to six schools seems possible.”

I assume that the source is probably Commissioner Aresco or one of the AAC Presidents.

What they meant when they said "seems possible" may be that, as they understand it, ESPN would provide the necessary backing to add six more schools.

Whether or not this would mean adding six more full members isn't clear, but what is clear is that ESPN will back adding four more full members, and possibly six.

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What I take this to mean is that ESPN is going "all in" for the AAC at this point.

They know that many schools probably have reservations about joining what now seems like the most unstable conference of them all.

I'm starting to think that ESPN isn't willing to risk the possibility of watching the AAC implode, and that it is therefore prepared to pay the new schools that join as much as $7 million/year.

They've either got to put the money there to bring the top eastern schools into the AAC, or they're going to end up with a wretched little version of the AAC that's no better than the SBC, the MAC, or the MWC.

Further, there's no question that they have the money. They've got plenty of cash.

They can pull the AAC through this maelstrom. They seem to be putting the cash out there.

The only question now is this: When the rubber meets the road, can Mike Aresco sell the AAC to the highest-quality eastern FB & BB schools or not?

Is it possible that Aresco is "all hat and no cattle?"

OK that's a lot of supposition.

1. A person (even one in a power position in the AAC) saying "anything from 2-6 seems possible" doesn't mean that ESPN has written them an imaginary blank check. I suppose that is one of many possibilities - but it doesn't necessarily mean that.

2. "or they're going to end up with a wretched little version of the AAC that's no better than the SBC, the MAC, or the MWC" One of those ships has sailed - they don't have potential additions that get them up the the MWC, at least in football, at this point. Their only hope to be above the MWC after the defections of Cincinnati, Houston and UCF was to steal teams from the MWC - knocking the MWC down as it raised the AAC up. That didn't happen.

2-a) But are the remaining teams in the "wretched little version of the AAC" better than the MAC or SBC? It seems a strange omission that you didn't mention C-USA? Maybe that wasn't intentional. Anyway - I'm not sure they are better. I'll give you Memphis basketball, but what else is head and shoulders above those conferences you disdain? None jump out at me that has been better in FB than Appy State, Coastal Carolina or Louisiana as of late - and that's just from the Sun Belt. Am I missing something?

Yes you are missing something. You're asking the wrong question. If you are the top of the Sunbelt, MAC, or CUSA--the question is "Is whats left of the AAC better than the bottom 8 of my present conference?" If that answer is "yes" (and I see no way it couldnt be), then you're better off joining up in the AAC with other top schools from the SB/CUSA/MAC than staying where you are. And we havent even begun to discuss the monetary difference or the academic preferences of college presidents.

Yes, I think the AAC could issue an invitation to any school in the SBC, MAC or CUSA and they would accept.

But maybe we'll find out soon?

(10-02-2021 06:42 PM)XYZ Wrote:  UAB, Buffalo, Rice, Miami (Ohio)

UT San Antonio, UAB, App State and Marshall

I don't think it should be just 2 additions - or that the AAC ought to expand to 14 schools either. Instead I believe that the AAC should add 4 (for now) - get to 12 in football (with Navy) and 12 in Olympic sports (with Wichita State). Eventually, I expect Memphis to get called up - and when that happens, I think you guys should add either Appy State, Coastal Carolina or Louisiana to replace us.

My picks would be: UAB (of course) Marshall (about time), Toledo and La-Tech (or Louisiana).

I'd put Navy in the east and let them choose their cross-over opponents (so they can play in Texas if they want to). But Rice isn't a good strategic move long term, so there is only going to be one Texas school for them to schedule anyway. They can play at SMU every year if Texas is such an important recruiting tool. I'm sure MSU wouldn't mind always playing host. If they don't like it - let them leave. It makes no sense for UAB to play all the time in the east when they're a southern school a few hours drive from 3 conference mates.

The isolation of USF is unavoidable and strategically, they shouldn't even want us to elevate another Florida school that they would then have to recruit against.

W: Tulsa, SMU, La-Tech or Lousiana, Tulane, Memphis, UAB
E: Temple, Toledo, Navy, Marshall, ECU, USF

(10-07-2021 03:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Yes, I think the AAC could issue an invitation to any school in the SBC, MAC or CUSA and they would accept.

Not the MAC.

(10-09-2021 08:33 AM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  

(10-07-2021 03:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Yes, I think the AAC could issue an invitation to any school in the SBC, MAC or CUSA and they would accept.

Not the MAC.

I don't know if Kent State would accept, but playing in the same conference as Wichita State and Memphis would be awfully tempting.

(10-08-2021 10:31 PM)e-bethMSU Wrote:  I don't think it should be just 2 additions - or that the AAC ought to expand to 14 schools either. Instead I believe that the AAC should add 4 (for now) - get to 12 in football (with Navy) and 12 in Olympic sports (with Wichita State). Eventually, I expect Memphis to get called up - and when that happens, I think you guys should add either Appy State, Coastal Carolina or Louisiana to replace us.

My picks would be: UAB (of course) Marshall (about time), Toledo and La-Tech (or Louisiana).

I'd put Navy in the east and let them choose their cross-over opponents (so they can play in Texas if they want to). But Rice isn't a good strategic move long term, so there is only going to be one Texas school for them to schedule anyway. They can play at SMU every year if Texas is such an important recruiting tool. I'm sure MSU wouldn't mind always playing host. If they don't like it - let them leave. It makes no sense for UAB to play all the time in the east when they're a southern school a few hours drive from 3 conference mates.

The isolation of USF is unavoidable and strategically, they shouldn't even want us to elevate another Florida school that they would then have to recruit against.

W: Tulsa, SMU, La-Tech or Louisiana, Tulane, Memphis, UAB
E: Temple, Toledo, Navy, Marshall, ECU, USF

IMO, the AAC should take the best of the SBC and CUSA and expand to 16 and make it the top G5 conference. In doing so, the AAC moves to 4 Locational Pods with natural geographic rivalries:

1. Tulsa, SMU, Memphis, UAB
2. Louisiana, UTSA, Rice, Tulane
3. Temple, Navy, ECU, Marshall
4. USF, FAU, App State, Coastal/Liberty

The AAC adds a combination of markets in San Antonio, Birmingham, Miami area and recaptures Houston with solid programs in Louisiana, App State, Marshall and either Coastal or Liberty.

This would then force the SBC and CUSA to combine into a single conference - call it CUSA, who could also have 4 pods:

1. Ark State, ULM, W. KY, MTSU
2. N. Texas, Texas State, LA Tech, S. Miss
3. ODU, Charlotte, GA State, Coastal/Liberty
4. FIU, Troy, S. Alabama, GA Southern

UTEP and NMSU are added to the MWC where they belong!

There are now 4 G5 conferences - AAC, MWC, MAC, CUSA

(10-11-2021 09:09 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-08-2021 10:31 PM)e-bethMSU Wrote:  I don't think it should be just 2 additions - or that the AAC ought to expand to 14 schools either. Instead I believe that the AAC should add 4 (for now) - get to 12 in football (with Navy) and 12 in Olympic sports (with Wichita State). Eventually, I expect Memphis to get called up - and when that happens, I think you guys should add either Appy State, Coastal Carolina or Louisiana to replace us.

My picks would be: UAB (of course) Marshall (about time), Toledo and La-Tech (or Louisiana).

I'd put Navy in the east and let them choose their cross-over opponents (so they can play in Texas if they want to). But Rice isn't a good strategic move long term, so there is only going to be one Texas school for them to schedule anyway. They can play at SMU every year if Texas is such an important recruiting tool. I'm sure MSU wouldn't mind always playing host. If they don't like it - let them leave. It makes no sense for UAB to play all the time in the east when they're a southern school a few hours drive from 3 conference mates.

The isolation of USF is unavoidable and strategically, they shouldn't even want us to elevate another Florida school that they would then have to recruit against.

W: Tulsa, SMU, La-Tech or Louisiana, Tulane, Memphis, UAB
E: Temple, Toledo, Navy, Marshall, ECU, USF

IMO, the AAC should take the best of the SBC and CUSA and expand to 16 and make it the top G5 conference. In doing so, the AAC moves to 4 Locational Pods with natural geographic rivalries:

1. Tulsa, SMU, Memphis, UAB
2. Louisiana, UTSA, Rice, Tulane
3. Temple, Navy, ECU, Marshall
4. USF, FAU, App State, Coastal/Liberty

The AAC adds a combination of markets in San Antonio, Birmingham, Miami area and recaptures Houston with solid programs in Louisiana, App State, Marshall and either Coastal or Liberty.

This would then force the SBC and CUSA to combine into a single conference - call it CUSA, who could also have 4 pods:

1. Ark State, ULM, W. KY, MTSU
2. N. Texas, Texas State, LA Tech, S. Miss
3. ODU, Charlotte, GA State, Coastal/Liberty
4. FIU, Troy, S. Alabama, GA Southern

UTEP and NMSU are added to the MWC where they belong!

There are now 4 G5 conferences - AAC, MWC, MAC, CUSA

(10-11-2021 09:15 AM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:09 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-08-2021 10:31 PM)e-bethMSU Wrote:  I don't think it should be just 2 additions - or that the AAC ought to expand to 14 schools either. Instead I believe that the AAC should add 4 (for now) - get to 12 in football (with Navy) and 12 in Olympic sports (with Wichita State). Eventually, I expect Memphis to get called up - and when that happens, I think you guys should add either Appy State, Coastal Carolina or Louisiana to replace us.

My picks would be: UAB (of course) Marshall (about time), Toledo and La-Tech (or Louisiana).

I'd put Navy in the east and let them choose their cross-over opponents (so they can play in Texas if they want to). But Rice isn't a good strategic move long term, so there is only going to be one Texas school for them to schedule anyway. They can play at SMU every year if Texas is such an important recruiting tool. I'm sure MSU wouldn't mind always playing host. If they don't like it - let them leave. It makes no sense for UAB to play all the time in the east when they're a southern school a few hours drive from 3 conference mates.

The isolation of USF is unavoidable and strategically, they shouldn't even want us to elevate another Florida school that they would then have to recruit against.

W: Tulsa, SMU, La-Tech or Louisiana, Tulane, Memphis, UAB
E: Temple, Toledo, Navy, Marshall, ECU, USF

IMO, the AAC should take the best of the SBC and CUSA and expand to 16 and make it the top G5 conference. In doing so, the AAC moves to 4 Locational Pods with natural geographic rivalries:

1. Tulsa, SMU, Memphis, UAB
2. Louisiana, UTSA, Rice, Tulane
3. Temple, Navy, ECU, Marshall
4. USF, FAU, App State, Coastal/Liberty

The AAC adds a combination of markets in San Antonio, Birmingham, Miami area and recaptures Houston with solid programs in Louisiana, App State, Marshall and either Coastal or Liberty.

This would then force the SBC and CUSA to combine into a single conference - call it CUSA, who could also have 4 pods:

1. Ark State, ULM, W. KY, MTSU
2. N. Texas, Texas State, LA Tech, S. Miss
3. ODU, Charlotte, GA State, Coastal/Liberty
4. FIU, Troy, S. Alabama, GA Southern

UTEP and NMSU are added to the MWC where they belong!

There are now 4 G5 conferences - AAC, MWC, MAC, CUSA

I agree. Why would the AAC add a school like Louisiana-Lafayette who can't generate enough revenue to offset their expenditures? Besides, they don't need another Louisiana school when they have Tulane.

(10-11-2021 09:44 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:15 AM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:09 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-08-2021 10:31 PM)e-bethMSU Wrote:  I don't think it should be just 2 additions - or that the AAC ought to expand to 14 schools either. Instead I believe that the AAC should add 4 (for now) - get to 12 in football (with Navy) and 12 in Olympic sports (with Wichita State). Eventually, I expect Memphis to get called up - and when that happens, I think you guys should add either Appy State, Coastal Carolina or Louisiana to replace us.

My picks would be: UAB (of course) Marshall (about time), Toledo and La-Tech (or Louisiana).

I'd put Navy in the east and let them choose their cross-over opponents (so they can play in Texas if they want to). But Rice isn't a good strategic move long term, so there is only going to be one Texas school for them to schedule anyway. They can play at SMU every year if Texas is such an important recruiting tool. I'm sure MSU wouldn't mind always playing host. If they don't like it - let them leave. It makes no sense for UAB to play all the time in the east when they're a southern school a few hours drive from 3 conference mates.

The isolation of USF is unavoidable and strategically, they shouldn't even want us to elevate another Florida school that they would then have to recruit against.

W: Tulsa, SMU, La-Tech or Louisiana, Tulane, Memphis, UAB
E: Temple, Toledo, Navy, Marshall, ECU, USF

IMO, the AAC should take the best of the SBC and CUSA and expand to 16 and make it the top G5 conference. In doing so, the AAC moves to 4 Locational Pods with natural geographic rivalries:

1. Tulsa, SMU, Memphis, UAB
2. Louisiana, UTSA, Rice, Tulane
3. Temple, Navy, ECU, Marshall
4. USF, FAU, App State, Coastal/Liberty

The AAC adds a combination of markets in San Antonio, Birmingham, Miami area and recaptures Houston with solid programs in Louisiana, App State, Marshall and either Coastal or Liberty.

This would then force the SBC and CUSA to combine into a single conference - call it CUSA, who could also have 4 pods:

1. Ark State, ULM, W. KY, MTSU
2. N. Texas, Texas State, LA Tech, S. Miss
3. ODU, Charlotte, GA State, Coastal/Liberty
4. FIU, Troy, S. Alabama, GA Southern

UTEP and NMSU are added to the MWC where they belong!

There are now 4 G5 conferences - AAC, MWC, MAC, CUSA

I agree. Why would the AAC add a school like Louisiana-Lafayette who can't generate enough revenue to offset their expenditures? Besides, they don't need another Louisiana school when they have Tulane.

B.S. You are thinking ULM who has the lowest budget in FCS football. Louisiana has a $40M budget and growing and is about to start a major renovation to its football stadium that already seats over 40,000. Tulane brings only a partial New Orleans market and a losing program with no statewide following. The Acadiana area of Louisiana has over 1M people and that doesn't include the Baton Rouge market. Louisiana is one of he best recruiting states in the country. Having a public and a private university from the state in the same conference would be a good thing. How many states have 2 or more teams in the same conference? Florida, Alabama, Miss., Tennessee, Texas, N. Carolina, California, Arizona, to name a few.

I agree with the Cajun fan, Louisiana should absolutely be considered. They’re putting money into athletics and have a great branding effort that I’ve followed over the years. It’s BS the state won’t allow them to officially change their name.

The AAC has some great brand opportunities: Massachusetts, Buffalo (large city), Marshall (the movie), Louisiana, Rice (academics).

Adding a bunch of acronyms doesn’t look as profound, does it?

(10-11-2021 11:12 AM)esayem Wrote:  I agree with the Cajun fan, Louisiana should absolutely be considered. They’re putting money into athletics and have a great branding effort that I’ve followed over the years. It’s BS the state won’t allow them to officially change their name.

The AAC has some great brand opportunities: Massachusetts, Buffalo (large city), Marshall (the movie), Louisiana, Rice (academics).

Adding a bunch of acronyms doesn’t look as profound, does it?

Thanks, but we don't need to change our name. Almost every state university has a city tag with their name, but drop the city tag athletically. Wisconsin (Wisconsin-Madison), Minnesota (Minnesota Twin Cities), Texas (Texas at Austin), Nebraska (Nebraska Lincoln), North Carolina (North Carolina at Chapel Hill), etc. etc.

Louisiana is doing the same thing. Louisiana is now accepted nationally. The exceptions are a few petty schools in Louisiana.

(10-11-2021 11:19 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 11:12 AM)esayem Wrote:  I agree with the Cajun fan, Louisiana should absolutely be considered. They’re putting money into athletics and have a great branding effort that I’ve followed over the years. It’s BS the state won’t allow them to officially change their name.

The AAC has some great brand opportunities: Massachusetts, Buffalo (large city), Marshall (the movie), Louisiana, Rice (academics).

Adding a bunch of acronyms doesn’t look as profound, does it?

Thanks, but we don't need to change our name. Almost every state university has a city tag with their name, but drop the city tag athletically. Wisconsin (Wisconsin-Madison), Minnesota (Minnesota Twin Cities), Texas (Texas at Austin), Nebraska (Nebraska Lincoln), North Carolina (North Carolina at Chapel Hill), etc. etc.

Louisiana is doing the same thing. Louisiana is now accepted nationally. The exceptions are a few petty schools in Louisiana.

Gotcha. I guess I’m thinking back to when Monroe had to change their name as well for it to go through. Just strange.

(10-11-2021 11:03 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:44 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:15 AM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:09 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-08-2021 10:31 PM)e-bethMSU Wrote:  I don't think it should be just 2 additions - or that the AAC ought to expand to 14 schools either. Instead I believe that the AAC should add 4 (for now) - get to 12 in football (with Navy) and 12 in Olympic sports (with Wichita State). Eventually, I expect Memphis to get called up - and when that happens, I think you guys should add either Appy State, Coastal Carolina or Louisiana to replace us.

My picks would be: UAB (of course) Marshall (about time), Toledo and La-Tech (or Louisiana).

I'd put Navy in the east and let them choose their cross-over opponents (so they can play in Texas if they want to). But Rice isn't a good strategic move long term, so there is only going to be one Texas school for them to schedule anyway. They can play at SMU every year if Texas is such an important recruiting tool. I'm sure MSU wouldn't mind always playing host. If they don't like it - let them leave. It makes no sense for UAB to play all the time in the east when they're a southern school a few hours drive from 3 conference mates.

The isolation of USF is unavoidable and strategically, they shouldn't even want us to elevate another Florida school that they would then have to recruit against.

W: Tulsa, SMU, La-Tech or Louisiana, Tulane, Memphis, UAB
E: Temple, Toledo, Navy, Marshall, ECU, USF

IMO, the AAC should take the best of the SBC and CUSA and expand to 16 and make it the top G5 conference. In doing so, the AAC moves to 4 Locational Pods with natural geographic rivalries:

1. Tulsa, SMU, Memphis, UAB
2. Louisiana, UTSA, Rice, Tulane
3. Temple, Navy, ECU, Marshall
4. USF, FAU, App State, Coastal/Liberty

The AAC adds a combination of markets in San Antonio, Birmingham, Miami area and recaptures Houston with solid programs in Louisiana, App State, Marshall and either Coastal or Liberty.

This would then force the SBC and CUSA to combine into a single conference - call it CUSA, who could also have 4 pods:

1. Ark State, ULM, W. KY, MTSU
2. N. Texas, Texas State, LA Tech, S. Miss
3. ODU, Charlotte, GA State, Coastal/Liberty
4. FIU, Troy, S. Alabama, GA Southern

UTEP and NMSU are added to the MWC where they belong!

There are now 4 G5 conferences - AAC, MWC, MAC, CUSA

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I agree. Why would the AAC add a school like Louisiana-Lafayette who can't generate enough revenue to offset their expenditures? Besides, they don't need another Louisiana school when they have Tulane.

B.S. You are thinking ULM who has the lowest budget in FCS football. Louisiana has a $40M budget and growing and is about to start a major renovation to its football stadium that already seats over 40,000. Tulane brings only a partial New Orleans market and a losing program with no statewide following. The Acadiana area of Louisiana has over 1M people and that doesn't include the Baton Rouge market. Louisiana is one of he best recruiting states in the country. Having a public and a private university from the state in the same conference would be a good thing. How many states have 2 or more teams in the same conference? Florida, Alabama, Miss., Tennessee, Texas, N. Carolina, California, Arizona, to name a few.

Maybe you should do your research before challenging someone on facts.

In the last available cycle Louisiana-Lafayette brought in less than $33 Million in revenue. That's not $40 Million. Not even close. Only three D1 public schools outside the Power 5, AAC, and Moutain West make +$40 Million in revenue--James Madison, Old Dominion, and Buffalo.

Furthermore, Louisiana-Lafayette spent over $37 Million, which means your school actually lost money. Did your school get their heads out of their financial asses during the COVID season? We don't know yet. That data is not available.


http://cafidatabase.knightcommission.org/fbs/sunbelt

(10-11-2021 12:58 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 11:03 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:44 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:15 AM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:09 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  IMO, the AAC should take the best of the SBC and CUSA and expand to 16 and make it the top G5 conference. In doing so, the AAC moves to 4 Locational Pods with natural geographic rivalries:

1. Tulsa, SMU, Memphis, UAB
2. Louisiana, UTSA, Rice, Tulane
3. Temple, Navy, ECU, Marshall
4. USF, FAU, App State, Coastal/Liberty

The AAC adds a combination of markets in San Antonio, Birmingham, Miami area and recaptures Houston with solid programs in Louisiana, App State, Marshall and either Coastal or Liberty.

This would then force the SBC and CUSA to combine into a single conference - call it CUSA, who could also have 4 pods:

1. Ark State, ULM, W. KY, MTSU
2. N. Texas, Texas State, LA Tech, S. Miss
3. ODU, Charlotte, GA State, Coastal/Liberty
4. FIU, Troy, S. Alabama, GA Southern

UTEP and NMSU are added to the MWC where they belong!

There are now 4 G5 conferences - AAC, MWC, MAC, CUSA

I agree. Why would the AAC add a school like Louisiana-Lafayette who can't generate enough revenue to offset their expenditures? Besides, they don't need another Louisiana school when they have Tulane.

B.S. You are thinking ULM who has the lowest budget in FCS football. Louisiana has a $40M budget and growing and is about to start a major renovation to its football stadium that already seats over 40,000. Tulane brings only a partial New Orleans market and a losing program with no statewide following. The Acadiana area of Louisiana has over 1M people and that doesn't include the Baton Rouge market. Louisiana is one of he best recruiting states in the country. Having a public and a private university from the state in the same conference would be a good thing. How many states have 2 or more teams in the same conference? Florida, Alabama, Miss., Tennessee, Texas, N. Carolina, California, Arizona, to name a few.

Maybe you should do your research before challenging someone on facts.

In the last available cycle Louisiana-Lafayette brought in less than $33 Million in revenue. That's not $40 Million. Not even close. Only three D1 public schools outside the Power 5, AAC, and Moutain West make +$40 Million in revenue--James Madison, Old Dominion, and Buffalo.

Furthermore, Louisiana-Lafayette spent over $37 Million, which means your school actually lost money. Did your school get their heads out of their financial asses during the COVID season? We don't know yet. That data is not available.


http://cafidatabase.knightcommission.org/fbs/sunbelt

Just so we’re clear, when we discuss “budget”, we are referring more closely to expenditures than revenue. The argument against Rice is a good example of this. We don’t care how much you have, how much you make, or whether you are mortgaging your future viability, as long as you are spending it.


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(10-12-2021 06:33 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 12:58 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 11:03 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:44 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:15 AM)BKTopper Wrote:  

I agree. Why would the AAC add a school like Louisiana-Lafayette who can't generate enough revenue to offset their expenditures? Besides, they don't need another Louisiana school when they have Tulane.

B.S. You are thinking ULM who has the lowest budget in FCS football. Louisiana has a $40M budget and growing and is about to start a major renovation to its football stadium that already seats over 40,000. Tulane brings only a partial New Orleans market and a losing program with no statewide following. The Acadiana area of Louisiana has over 1M people and that doesn't include the Baton Rouge market. Louisiana is one of he best recruiting states in the country. Having a public and a private university from the state in the same conference would be a good thing. How many states have 2 or more teams in the same conference? Florida, Alabama, Miss., Tennessee, Texas, N. Carolina, California, Arizona, to name a few.

Maybe you should do your research before challenging someone on facts.

In the last available cycle Louisiana-Lafayette brought in less than $33 Million in revenue. That's not $40 Million. Not even close. Only three D1 public schools outside the Power 5, AAC, and Moutain West make +$40 Million in revenue--James Madison, Old Dominion, and Buffalo.

Furthermore, Louisiana-Lafayette spent over $37 Million, which means your school actually lost money. Did your school get their heads out of their financial asses during the COVID season? We don't know yet. That data is not available.


http://cafidatabase.knightcommission.org/fbs/sunbelt

Just so we’re clear, when we discuss “budget”, we are referring more closely to expenditures than revenue. The argument against Rice is a good example of this. We don’t care how much you have, how much you make, or whether you are mortgaging your future viability, as long as you are spending it.


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I can't imagine how spending millions more than you have, which is habitual for Louisiana-Lafayette, is good for long-term stability.

(10-12-2021 08:44 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-12-2021 06:33 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 12:58 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 11:03 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:44 AM)All4One Wrote:  I agree. Why would the AAC add a school like Louisiana-Lafayette who can't generate enough revenue to offset their expenditures? Besides, they don't need another Louisiana school when they have Tulane.

B.S. You are thinking ULM who has the lowest budget in FCS football. Louisiana has a $40M budget and growing and is about to start a major renovation to its football stadium that already seats over 40,000. Tulane brings only a partial New Orleans market and a losing program with no statewide following. The Acadiana area of Louisiana has over 1M people and that doesn't include the Baton Rouge market. Louisiana is one of he best recruiting states in the country. Having a public and a private university from the state in the same conference would be a good thing. How many states have 2 or more teams in the same conference? Florida, Alabama, Miss., Tennessee, Texas, N. Carolina, California, Arizona, to name a few.

Maybe you should do your research before challenging someone on facts.

In the last available cycle Louisiana-Lafayette brought in less than $33 Million in revenue. That's not $40 Million. Not even close. Only three D1 public schools outside the Power 5, AAC, and Moutain West make +$40 Million in revenue--James Madison, Old Dominion, and Buffalo.

Furthermore, Louisiana-Lafayette spent over $37 Million, which means your school actually lost money. Did your school get their heads out of their financial asses during the COVID season? We don't know yet. That data is not available.


http://cafidatabase.knightcommission.org/fbs/sunbelt

Just so we’re clear, when we discuss “budget”, we are referring more closely to expenditures than revenue. The argument against Rice is a good example of this. We don’t care how much you have, how much you make, or whether you are mortgaging your future viability, as long as you are spending it.


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I can't imagine how spending millions more than you have, which is habitual for Louisiana-Lafayette, is good for long-term stability.

….and we have raised $59M so far this year. Your obsession with Louisiana is unhealthy.

In 2012 LaTech had a $20M budget, Louisiana had a $17M budget. In 2021 LaTech will have a $27M budget, Louisiana will have a $40M budget.

(10-12-2021 10:12 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(10-12-2021 08:44 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-12-2021 06:33 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 12:58 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 11:03 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  B.S. You are thinking ULM who has the lowest budget in FCS football. Louisiana has a $40M budget and growing and is about to start a major renovation to its football stadium that already seats over 40,000. Tulane brings only a partial New Orleans market and a losing program with no statewide following. The Acadiana area of Louisiana has over 1M people and that doesn't include the Baton Rouge market. Louisiana is one of he best recruiting states in the country. Having a public and a private university from the state in the same conference would be a good thing. How many states have 2 or more teams in the same conference? Florida, Alabama, Miss., Tennessee, Texas, N. Carolina, California, Arizona, to name a few.

Maybe you should do your research before challenging someone on facts.

In the last available cycle Louisiana-Lafayette brought in less than $33 Million in revenue. That's not $40 Million. Not even close. Only three D1 public schools outside the Power 5, AAC, and Moutain West make +$40 Million in revenue--James Madison, Old Dominion, and Buffalo.

Furthermore, Louisiana-Lafayette spent over $37 Million, which means your school actually lost money. Did your school get their heads out of their financial asses during the COVID season? We don't know yet. That data is not available.


http://cafidatabase.knightcommission.org/fbs/sunbelt

Just so we’re clear, when we discuss “budget”, we are referring more closely to expenditures than revenue. The argument against Rice is a good example of this. We don’t care how much you have, how much you make, or whether you are mortgaging your future viability, as long as you are spending it.


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I can't imagine how spending millions more than you have, which is habitual for Louisiana-Lafayette, is good for long-term stability.

….and we have raised $59M so far this year. Your obsession with Louisiana is unhealthy.

In 2012 LaTech had a $20M budget, Louisiana had a $17M budget. In 2021 LaTech will have a $27M budget, Louisiana will have a $40M budget.

And what percentage is subsidized by student fees?

(10-07-2021 11:22 AM)b2b Wrote:  Can we just lock DavidSt and Jed Clampet/JamesTKirk/Milwaukee in a cage and have a TL;DR death match?

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Why jedclampett felt the need to have *three* usernames is a question we still haven't resolved.

(10-12-2021 10:15 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-12-2021 10:12 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(10-12-2021 08:44 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-12-2021 06:33 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 12:58 PM)All4One Wrote:  Maybe you should do your research before challenging someone on facts.

In the last available cycle Louisiana-Lafayette brought in less than $33 Million in revenue. That's not $40 Million. Not even close. Only three D1 public schools outside the Power 5, AAC, and Moutain West make +$40 Million in revenue--James Madison, Old Dominion, and Buffalo.

Furthermore, Louisiana-Lafayette spent over $37 Million, which means your school actually lost money. Did your school get their heads out of their financial asses during the COVID season? We don't know yet. That data is not available.


http://cafidatabase.knightcommission.org/fbs/sunbelt

Just so we’re clear, when we discuss “budget”, we are referring more closely to expenditures than revenue. The argument against Rice is a good example of this. We don’t care how much you have, how much you make, or whether you are mortgaging your future viability, as long as you are spending it.


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I can't imagine how spending millions more than you have, which is habitual for Louisiana-Lafayette, is good for long-term stability.

….and we have raised $59M so far this year. Your obsession with Louisiana is unhealthy.

In 2012 LaTech had a $20M budget, Louisiana had a $17M budget. In 2021 LaTech will have a $27M budget, Louisiana will have a $40M budget.

And what percentage is subsidized by student fees?

0% - no student fees. If we had student fees, we would have a $50M+ budget.

(10-12-2021 10:21 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-12-2021 10:15 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-12-2021 10:12 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(10-12-2021 08:44 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-12-2021 06:33 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Just so we’re clear, when we discuss “budget”, we are referring more closely to expenditures than revenue. The argument against Rice is a good example of this. We don’t care how much you have, how much you make, or whether you are mortgaging your future viability, as long as you are spending it.


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I can't imagine how spending millions more than you have, which is habitual for Louisiana-Lafayette, is good for long-term stability.

….and we have raised $59M so far this year. Your obsession with Louisiana is unhealthy.

In 2012 LaTech had a $20M budget, Louisiana had a $17M budget. In 2021 LaTech will have a $27M budget, Louisiana will have a $40M budget.

And what percentage is subsidized by student fees?

0% - no student fees. If we had student fees, we would have a $50M+ budget.

That's good. That means you have a high ceiling to work with.