(10-11-2021 08:42 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-10-2021 07:52 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Well, Herdfan129, sources indicate that App State is in consideration for the AAC with UAB...but Marshall isn't mentioned. Is that what your sources are indicating?

I’ve heard of no sources saying App is under consideration. There was a CBS article that was mostly throwing stuff against the wall because it had Texas State on the list

The CBS article mentioning that the information indicating App State, UAB, North Texas, and UTSA were under consideration came from "sources". I'm not going to challenge a journalists integrity without proof but the context within which those schools were mentioned matters. Could be a due diligence thing, could be a legitimate exploration. Could just be one sources wish list, if that source is a university president or AD.

Temple's president speaking out on the need for regional conferences to benefit student-athletes:

https://247sports.com/college/temple/Art...172818580/

(10-11-2021 11:15 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Temple's president speaking out on the need for regional conferences to benefit student-athletes:

https://247sports.com/college/temple/Art...172818580/

Interesting. I still can't imagine AAC going along with this plan (at least for the upcoming future) but it's intriguing to hear an American team come out as a proponent to it.

(10-11-2021 11:30 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 11:15 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Temple's president speaking out on the need for regional conferences to benefit student-athletes:

https://247sports.com/college/temple/Art...172818580/

Interesting. I still can't imagine AAC going along with this plan (at least for the upcoming future) but it's intriguing to hear an American team come out as a proponent to it.

I’m not sure that reads as being a proponent. It read as “it depends on the revenue”

(10-09-2021 05:30 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Well well well.....look who was right again. I told you all this was still being worked on while all of you tried to tell me I was crazy.

That's like saying I am working on being the QB for the Cowboys. They are not aware or remotely interested but I have a plan!

(10-09-2021 08:45 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-09-2021 08:31 PM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  

(10-09-2021 06:26 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-09-2021 05:55 PM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Even if the AAC expanded to 16 I'm not so sure Marshall would get an invite.

Demographics are not in Marshall's favor. The University student population is shrank from 16,500 in the early 2000s to 12,800 today and the entire state's population is shrinking greater than any other state in the union.

That coupled with a relatively small athletic budget currently doesn't paint a rosy picture unfortunately even with all of the success they've had.

Marshall is closer in proximity to six MAC schools then it's closest CUSA schools and ODU/Middle Tennessee/WKU.

Marshall really fits in with the MAC schools the best.

LOL...we have a shot to get in if they expand by four to 12 teams....we would definitely get in if they expanded to 16 teams (don't see this happening.)

As for the last part, we are NOTHING like the MAC schools. We are on the Ohio border, but we consider ourselves a southern school. We do not have any sort of cultural things in common with the MAC schools.

Like more than half of the MAC schools, Marshall has 20 years of declining enrollment and is located in a dying state.

Just because the MAC schools have culture doesn't mean that Marshall doesn't fit in.

Highlands,

I am excited about the idea of adding Southern Miss to the Sun Belt.

But let's not have a double standard. Mississippi suffers from the same ills West Virginia does. Poor state. Declining population. Lots of problems. Frankly, Louisiana and Arkansas have similar problems: population loss or just teeny tiny growth. I don't know what enrollment trends are at USM, but what does it matter? This is about cultural fit regardless of market or state size or population growth.

Herdfan129 is a troll. None of that means Marshall would be a bad fit for the Belt.

Southern Miss enrollment is stable between 14k and 15k. We increased from 2019 to 2020 by around three percent. Awaiting the 2021 numbers, which per state rules don't come out until near the end of the Fall semester.

Also relevant is that, though Mississippi as a whole is absolutely a shrinking/dying state, the Hattiesburg area has a growing population and (relatively) stable economy.

(10-11-2021 11:46 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(10-09-2021 05:30 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Well well well.....look who was right again. I told you all this was still being worked on while all of you tried to tell me I was crazy.

That's like saying I am working on being the QB for the Cowboys. They are not aware or remotely interested but I have a plan!

What he has said and what Delaney has done has nothing to do with each other. This nut was just putting up a wish list...over and over.

(10-11-2021 11:30 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 11:15 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Temple's president speaking out on the need for regional conferences to benefit student-athletes:

https://247sports.com/college/temple/Art...172818580/

Interesting. I still can't imagine AAC going along with this plan (at least for the upcoming future) but it's intriguing to hear an American team come out as a proponent to it.

It actually fits with the claims of who is being looked at in that CBS Article.

Adding App State, UAB, UNT, and UTSA does a few things:

1. App State and ECU while not close within the context of North Carolina, are close in terms of geographical footprint of the conference. They would also bring the AAC to the forefront of the state since App and ECU are two FOOTBALL schools, and the only two FOOTBALL schools, in the State. Everywhere else is basketball first. That's a win for the AAC and ESPN.

2. UAB - UAB provides a center point between Tulane, USF, App State, and ECU and obviously brings increased funding and the market of Birmingham. That is a geographical fit

3. UNT - UNT is in the same market as SMU so the AAC doesn't gain a new market as with App and UAB, but they do provide a travel partner for SMU and increase visibility of the AAC as a meaningful rivalry would undoubtedly develop between the public North Texas and small private SMU. They also provide another regional game for both Tulsa and Wichita State (should either of them stay).

4. UTSA - This is the only pure market add that I can tell. They may substitute for not having a suitable add in the Houston market. They are also as far from Tulane as UAB is from USF so while bring a fringe program in terms of geography, they still bring a new market while being close enough.

I highly doubt the scenario that the CBS Article proposes is the truth, and if it is that those will be the four schools added. The name drop and claims of a source are interesting enough though, since everyone here is always asking for sources.

However that still may not be a better option than the Sun Belt. It's effectively the same footprint with presumably more exposure on linear television networks and a return to almost all Saturday games. If the Sun Belt can get rid of Tuesday/Wednesday games, keep Thursday/Friday games, and then have an opportunity for linear network Saturday games, I believe the Belt is the better option with a couple of targeted adds.

Are we split into new conferences yet? I am sure coosa has had their meeting.

(10-11-2021 03:46 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  Are we split into new conferences yet? I am sure coosa has had their meeting.

I think it’s this evening

(10-11-2021 03:59 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 03:46 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  Are we split into new conferences yet? I am sure coosa has had their meeting.

I think it’s this evening

Will it be on Facebook live?

(10-11-2021 04:02 PM)High Country Student Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 03:59 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 03:46 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  Are we split into new conferences yet? I am sure coosa has had their meeting.

I think it’s this evening

Will it be on Facebook live?

Or Stadium? (it is a CUSA meeting/event )

(10-11-2021 12:31 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 11:30 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 11:15 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Temple's president speaking out on the need for regional conferences to benefit student-athletes:

https://247sports.com/college/temple/Art...172818580/

Interesting. I still can't imagine AAC going along with this plan (at least for the upcoming future) but it's intriguing to hear an American team come out as a proponent to it.

It actually fits with the claims of who is being looked at in that CBS Article.

Adding App State, UAB, UNT, and UTSA does a few things:

1. App State and ECU while not close within the context of North Carolina, are close in terms of geographical footprint of the conference. They would also bring the AAC to the forefront of the state since App and ECU are two FOOTBALL schools, and the only two FOOTBALL schools, in the State. Everywhere else is basketball first. That's a win for the AAC and ESPN.

2. UAB - UAB provides a center point between Tulane, USF, App State, and ECU and obviously brings increased funding and the market of Birmingham. That is a geographical fit

3. UNT - UNT is in the same market as SMU so the AAC doesn't gain a new market as with App and UAB, but they do provide a travel partner for SMU and increase visibility of the AAC as a meaningful rivalry would undoubtedly develop between the public North Texas and small private SMU. They also provide another regional game for both Tulsa and Wichita State (should either of them stay).

4. UTSA - This is the only pure market add that I can tell. They may substitute for not having a suitable add in the Houston market. They are also as far from Tulane as UAB is from USF so while bring a fringe program in terms of geography, they still bring a new market while being close enough.

I highly doubt the scenario that the CBS Article proposes is the truth, and if it is that those will be the four schools added. The name drop and claims of a source are interesting enough though, since everyone here is always asking for sources.

However that still may not be a better option than the Sun Belt. It's effectively the same footprint with presumably more exposure on linear television networks and a return to almost all Saturday games. If the Sun Belt can get rid of Tuesday/Wednesday games, keep Thursday/Friday games, and then have an opportunity for linear network Saturday games, I believe the Belt is the better option with a couple of targeted adds.

Eric already latching on to the single article that mentioned App as a possible aAC candidate I see

(10-11-2021 04:03 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 12:31 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 11:30 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 11:15 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Temple's president speaking out on the need for regional conferences to benefit student-athletes:

https://247sports.com/college/temple/Art...172818580/

Interesting. I still can't imagine AAC going along with this plan (at least for the upcoming future) but it's intriguing to hear an American team come out as a proponent to it.

It actually fits with the claims of who is being looked at in that CBS Article.

Adding App State, UAB, UNT, and UTSA does a few things:

1. App State and ECU while not close within the context of North Carolina, are close in terms of geographical footprint of the conference. They would also bring the AAC to the forefront of the state since App and ECU are two FOOTBALL schools, and the only two FOOTBALL schools, in the State. Everywhere else is basketball first. That's a win for the AAC and ESPN.

2. UAB - UAB provides a center point between Tulane, USF, App State, and ECU and obviously brings increased funding and the market of Birmingham. That is a geographical fit

3. UNT - UNT is in the same market as SMU so the AAC doesn't gain a new market as with App and UAB, but they do provide a travel partner for SMU and increase visibility of the AAC as a meaningful rivalry would undoubtedly develop between the public North Texas and small private SMU. They also provide another regional game for both Tulsa and Wichita State (should either of them stay).

4. UTSA - This is the only pure market add that I can tell. They may substitute for not having a suitable add in the Houston market. They are also as far from Tulane as UAB is from USF so while bring a fringe program in terms of geography, they still bring a new market while being close enough.

I highly doubt the scenario that the CBS Article proposes is the truth, and if it is that those will be the four schools added. The name drop and claims of a source are interesting enough though, since everyone here is always asking for sources.

However that still may not be a better option than the Sun Belt. It's effectively the same footprint with presumably more exposure on linear television networks and a return to almost all Saturday games. If the Sun Belt can get rid of Tuesday/Wednesday games, keep Thursday/Friday games, and then have an opportunity for linear network Saturday games, I believe the Belt is the better option with a couple of targeted adds.

Eric already latching on to the single article that mentioned App as a possible aAC candidate I see

I reported weeks ago AppState was a possibility based what I’ve heard…. especially if the westward gambit failed… which it has.

(10-11-2021 03:59 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 03:46 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  Are we split into new conferences yet? I am sure coosa has had their meeting.

I think it’s this evening

CUSA, After Dark

Haha.

(10-11-2021 03:59 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 03:46 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  Are we split into new conferences yet? I am sure coosa has had their meeting.

I think it’s this evening

It'll be at the Applebees in Addison.

(10-11-2021 04:51 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 03:59 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 03:46 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  Are we split into new conferences yet? I am sure coosa has had their meeting.

I think it’s this evening

It'll be at the Applebees in Addison.

Fancy Like.

Regionalization makes WAY too much sense. It will never happen.

(10-11-2021 04:51 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 03:59 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 03:46 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  Are we split into new conferences yet? I am sure coosa has had their meeting.

I think it’s this evening

It'll be at the Applebees in Addison.

Made me think of this: