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(10-08-2021 01:01 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 07:27 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  In terms of career stats, Gino has the UC record for total yards passing and passing TD's. Desmond is clearly within range to surpass Gino's TD record:

Passing Yards
11,453 Guidugli
7,653 Ridder

Passing TD's
78 Guidugli
64 Ridder

Ridder would have to pass for nearly 400 yards per game over the next 10 to sniff Gino's record. Not likely. On the flip, he only needs to toss an average of 1.5 TD passes over the next 10 games to set the record. Doable. What's incredible for Rid is on the rushing side. Right now he has 1,897 career yards and wait for it...wait...24 rushing TD's. Combined with his passing numbers, that is some elite company for a college QB.

24 rushing TDs makes Ridder tied for #5 on UC's all-time list.

37 - Demarco McCleskey '02
31 - David Small '93
27 - Isaiah Pead '11
25 - Reggie Harrison '73
24 - Mike Boone '17
24 - Reggie Taylor '86


Ridder's 1,912 rushing yards puts him within shouting distance of the top-10 in UC history:

1. 4,242 Reggie Taylor '86
2. 3,487 DeMarco McCleskey '02
3. 3,288 Isaiah Pead '11
4. 2,998 Allen Harvin '82
5. 2,963 David Small '93
6. 2,786 Robert Cooper '99
7. 2,498 James Bettis '81
8. 2,250 Mike Boone '17
9. 2,223 Al McKinney '88
10. 2,197 Reggie Harrison '73

It's so easy to forget how good Mike Boone was...

(10-08-2021 01:01 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 07:27 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  In terms of career stats, Gino has the UC record for total yards passing and passing TD's. Desmond is clearly within range to surpass Gino's TD record:

Passing Yards
11,453 Guidugli
7,653 Ridder

Passing TD's
78 Guidugli
64 Ridder

Ridder would have to pass for nearly 400 yards per game over the next 10 to sniff Gino's record. Not likely. On the flip, he only needs to toss an average of 1.5 TD passes over the next 10 games to set the record. Doable. What's incredible for Rid is on the rushing side. Right now he has 1,897 career yards and wait for it...wait...24 rushing TD's. Combined with his passing numbers, that is some elite company for a college QB.

24 rushing TDs makes Ridder tied for #5 on UC's all-time list.

37 - Demarco McCleskey '02
34- Michael Warren’19
31 - David Small '93
27 - Isaiah Pead '11
25 - Reggie Harrison '73
24 - Mike Boone '17
24 - Reggie Taylor '86


Ridder's 1,912 rushing yards puts him within shouting distance of the top-10 in UC history:

1. 4,242 Reggie Taylor '86
2. 3,487 DeMarco McCleskey '02
3. 3,288 Isaiah Pead '11
4. 2,998 Allen Harvin '82
5. 2,963 David Small '93
6. 2,918. Michael Warren ‘19
7. 2,786 Robert Cooper '99
8. 2,498 James Bettis '81
9. 2,250 Mike Boone '17
10. 2,223 Al McKinney '88
11. 2,197 Reggie Harrison '73

Fixed your post to include Mike Warren, so he’s tied for #6.

(10-08-2021 01:38 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(10-08-2021 01:01 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 07:27 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  In terms of career stats, Gino has the UC record for total yards passing and passing TD's. Desmond is clearly within range to surpass Gino's TD record:

Passing Yards
11,453 Guidugli
7,653 Ridder

Passing TD's
78 Guidugli
64 Ridder

Ridder would have to pass for nearly 400 yards per game over the next 10 to sniff Gino's record. Not likely. On the flip, he only needs to toss an average of 1.5 TD passes over the next 10 games to set the record. Doable. What's incredible for Rid is on the rushing side. Right now he has 1,897 career yards and wait for it...wait...24 rushing TD's. Combined with his passing numbers, that is some elite company for a college QB.

24 rushing TDs makes Ridder tied for #5 on UC's all-time list.

37 - Demarco McCleskey '02
34- Michael Warren’19
31 - David Small '93
27 - Isaiah Pead '11
25 - Reggie Harrison '73
24 - Mike Boone '17
24 - Reggie Taylor '86


Ridder's 1,912 rushing yards puts him within shouting distance of the top-10 in UC history:

1. 4,242 Reggie Taylor '86
2. 3,487 DeMarco McCleskey '02
3. 3,288 Isaiah Pead '11
4. 2,998 Allen Harvin '82
5. 2,963 David Small '93
6. 2,918. Michael Warren ‘19
7. 2,786 Robert Cooper '99
8. 2,498 James Bettis '81
9. 2,250 Mike Boone '17
10. 2,223 Al McKinney '88
11. 2,197 Reggie Harrison '73

Fixed your post to include Mike Warren, so he’s tied for #6.

Aha! The list I found on UC's website was the 2019 media guide. I'll correct the original post.

(10-08-2021 02:01 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(10-08-2021 01:38 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(10-08-2021 01:01 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 07:27 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  In terms of career stats, Gino has the UC record for total yards passing and passing TD's. Desmond is clearly within range to surpass Gino's TD record:

Passing Yards
11,453 Guidugli
7,653 Ridder

Passing TD's
78 Guidugli
64 Ridder

Ridder would have to pass for nearly 400 yards per game over the next 10 to sniff Gino's record. Not likely. On the flip, he only needs to toss an average of 1.5 TD passes over the next 10 games to set the record. Doable. What's incredible for Rid is on the rushing side. Right now he has 1,897 career yards and wait for it...wait...24 rushing TD's. Combined with his passing numbers, that is some elite company for a college QB.

24 rushing TDs makes Ridder tied for #5 on UC's all-time list.

37 - Demarco McCleskey '02
34- Michael Warren’19
31 - David Small '93
27 - Isaiah Pead '11
25 - Reggie Harrison '73
24 - Mike Boone '17
24 - Reggie Taylor '86


Ridder's 1,912 rushing yards puts him within shouting distance of the top-10 in UC history:

1. 4,242 Reggie Taylor '86
2. 3,487 DeMarco McCleskey '02
3. 3,288 Isaiah Pead '11
4. 2,998 Allen Harvin '82
5. 2,963 David Small '93
6. 2,918. Michael Warren ‘19
7. 2,786 Robert Cooper '99
8. 2,498 James Bettis '81
9. 2,250 Mike Boone '17
10. 2,223 Al McKinney '88
11. 2,197 Reggie Harrison '73

Fixed your post to include Mike Warren, so he’s tied for #6.

Aha! The list I found on UC's website was the 2019 media guide. I'll correct the original post.

I realize this is a Wikipedia source, but this source is more up to date than the UC website.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinna...sing_yards

Updated from last night's ass beatin'...

Passing Yards
11,453 Guidugli
8,209 Ridder

Passing TD's
78 Guidugli
69 Ridder

Total Yards
11,661 Guidugli
10,138 Ridder

7 regular season games remaining and hopefully a chip game followed by a CFP birth.

Total TDs:

Guidugli: 83
Ridder: 94

Tale of the Tape:

Gino: 56% completion, 1.6:1 TD/INT Ratio, 7.4 yards/att, 128.8 QB rating, 208 yards rushing

Desmond: 62% completion, 3.1:1 TD/INT Ratio, 7.7 yards/att, 143.8 QB rating, 1929 yards rushing

I don't think it's really even close based on stats. Des is clearly the better QB.

Gino's passing yardage numbers are just gawdy because he threw the ball 500 more times than Des due to Rick Minters pass-happy spread offense.

Ridder is clearly the best modern QB in program history based on stats (I don't consider Greg Cook or Brigg Owens as modern QBs). In my opinion there should probably be two guys from this team-time to be included in the Ring of Honor at Nippert (Ridder and Warren).

(10-11-2021 08:40 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Ridder is clearly the best modern QB in program history based on stats (I don't consider Greg Cook or Brigg Owens as modern QBs). In my opinion there should probably be two guys from this team-time to be included in the Ring of Honor at Nippert (Ridder and Warren).

If Sauce gets All-American honors again this year, he's gotta be in the Ring of Honor.

(10-11-2021 11:13 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 08:40 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Ridder is clearly the best modern QB in program history based on stats (I don't consider Greg Cook or Brigg Owens as modern QBs). In my opinion there should probably be two guys from this team-time to be included in the Ring of Honor at Nippert (Ridder and Warren).

If Sauce gets All-American honors again this year, he's gotta be in the Ring of Honor.

Remind me - is there some sort of automatic criteria - ie. consensus first-team AA - for getting in?

(10-11-2021 11:17 AM)geef Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 11:13 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 08:40 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Ridder is clearly the best modern QB in program history based on stats (I don't consider Greg Cook or Brigg Owens as modern QBs). In my opinion there should probably be two guys from this team-time to be included in the Ring of Honor at Nippert (Ridder and Warren).

If Sauce gets All-American honors again this year, he's gotta be in the Ring of Honor.

Remind me - is there some sort of automatic criteria - ie. consensus first-team AA - for getting in?

No

I had to look up the list.

Tom O'Malley
Gene Rossi
Bill Shalosky
Dick Goist
Jack Lee
Greg Cook
Jim O'Brien
Tom Marvaso
Mike Woods
Reggie Taylor
Jonathan Ruffin
Gino Guidugli
Kevin Huber

Both are great quarterbacks for the Bearcats!

There’s about 10-12 guys from 2007-present who should be up on that ROH. How does it not include Mardy Gilyard?

(10-11-2021 02:08 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  There’s about 10-12 guys from 2007-present who should be up on that ROH. How does it not include Mardy Gilyard?

Unfortunately, they're now being measured against their peers rather than the past. And their peers are collectively far better than we've ever had.

(10-11-2021 02:30 PM)geef Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 02:08 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  There’s about 10-12 guys from 2007-present who should be up on that ROH. How does it not include Mardy Gilyard?

Unfortunately, they're now being measured against their peers rather than the past. And their peers are collectively far better than we've ever had.

Does Mardy really have a peer at Wide Receiver? The dude did everything and always in the biggest games. He returned kickoffs for TDs at Oklahoma, at West Virginia and at Pitt. He set the UC all purpose yards single game record against Oklahoma then broke in in 2009 against Pitt. I get that we're probably going to be more selective about what gets a player into the ROH, but Mardy not being there is silly.

(10-11-2021 02:33 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 02:30 PM)geef Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 02:08 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  There’s about 10-12 guys from 2007-present who should be up on that ROH. How does it not include Mardy Gilyard?

Unfortunately, they're now being measured against their peers rather than the past. And their peers are collectively far better than we've ever had.

Does Mardy really have a peer at Wide Receiver? The dude did everything and always in the biggest games. He returned kickoffs for TDs at Oklahoma, at West Virginia and at Pitt. He set the UC all purpose yards single game record against Oklahoma then broke in in 2009 against Pitt. I get that we're probably going to be more selective about what gets a player into the ROH, but Mardy not being there is silly.

Did you not read the first part of the post, where it stated 10-12? Of course Mardy deserves it.

(10-11-2021 11:18 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 11:17 AM)geef Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 11:13 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 08:40 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Ridder is clearly the best modern QB in program history based on stats (I don't consider Greg Cook or Brigg Owens as modern QBs). In my opinion there should probably be two guys from this team-time to be included in the Ring of Honor at Nippert (Ridder and Warren).

If Sauce gets All-American honors again this year, he's gotta be in the Ring of Honor.

Remind me - is there some sort of automatic criteria - ie. consensus first-team AA - for getting in?

No

At least one sport makes sense

(10-11-2021 02:39 PM)geef Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 02:33 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 02:30 PM)geef Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 02:08 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  There’s about 10-12 guys from 2007-present who should be up on that ROH. How does it not include Mardy Gilyard?

Unfortunately, they're now being measured against their peers rather than the past. And their peers are collectively far better than we've ever had.

Does Mardy really have a peer at Wide Receiver? The dude did everything and always in the biggest games. He returned kickoffs for TDs at Oklahoma, at West Virginia and at Pitt. He set the UC all purpose yards single game record against Oklahoma then broke in in 2009 against Pitt. I get that we're probably going to be more selective about what gets a player into the ROH, but Mardy not being there is silly.

Did you not read the first part of the post, where it stated 10-12? Of course Mardy deserves it.

Mardy
Jason Kielce
Travis Kielce
Derek Wolfe
Brent Celek
Connor Barwin
Chris Moore
Terrill Byrd

There are several guys from the Minter era I think deserve mention- Brad Jackson and Antwan Peak among a couple others.

I get what you are saying though. Now you are looking at having to add Des, Mike Warren, Sauce, Forrest, Wiggins, etc.

(10-11-2021 03:21 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 02:39 PM)geef Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 02:33 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 02:30 PM)geef Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 02:08 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  There’s about 10-12 guys from 2007-present who should be up on that ROH. How does it not include Mardy Gilyard?

Unfortunately, they're now being measured against their peers rather than the past. And their peers are collectively far better than we've ever had.

Does Mardy really have a peer at Wide Receiver? The dude did everything and always in the biggest games. He returned kickoffs for TDs at Oklahoma, at West Virginia and at Pitt. He set the UC all purpose yards single game record against Oklahoma then broke in in 2009 against Pitt. I get that we're probably going to be more selective about what gets a player into the ROH, but Mardy not being there is silly.

Did you not read the first part of the post, where it stated 10-12? Of course Mardy deserves it.

Mardy
Jason Kielce
Travis Kielce
Derek Wolfe
Brent Celek
Connor Barton
Chris Moore
Terrill Byrd

There are several guys from the Minter era I think deserve mention- Brad Jackson and Antwan Peak among a couple others.

I get what you are saying though. Now you are looking at having to add Des, Mike Warren, Sauce, Forrest, Wiggins, etc.

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what they do moving forward. It's a great problem to have!