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(10-08-2021 03:45 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt would prefer odu over utsa

Nothing against UTSA but ODU would be better for Charlotte and Marshall.

UTSA would have to be committed to completely redoing their arena the same way Charlotte would need to commit to stadium expansion.
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(10-08-2021 09:40 PM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  Go in debt, bankrupt the school, whatever just get Marshall football off Facebook

I honestly agree. Do whatever it takes to make this work.
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It’s not a good fit for Marshall because we honestly need to be in a good, redneck conference with a southern feel to it. That sounds stupid, but I look at the schools I feel we have most in common with and I get this list:

WKU
Middle
La Tech
Southern Miss
App State
Ga Southern
Troy
Arkansas State

To me those schools are like Marshall, not flashy, not big city teams, working class, not huge fan bases but the fans are loyal and knowledgeable. They take sports to heart and the games mean something to them. I want to be in a conference with schools like that, not Tulane, SMU, Tulsa and Temple. The only school I can identify with in the current AAC is ECU and the three schools that would be joining with us in this scenario are not on my “schools like us” list.
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Now it's time for MY educated guess:

If the AAC takes two where football is a must, I believe they will take UAB and Charlotte. UAB for all the reasons we've been hearing about. Charlotte because of their market potential, decent basketball, fledging football, and history in Conference USA with current members. The budgets aren't where they need to be, but the AAC schools will likely see budget cuts themselves after the movements are made. Plus, Charlotte would serve as a travel partner to East Carolina, who is likely not to go to the Big XII.

If the AAC takes four where football is a must, I believe they will add in addition to the two mentioned above Marshall and Old Dominion. Marshall for their brand, history with some current AAC members, decent football, and fledging basketball. The AAC would need to lower the budget expectations for a time because the remaining AAC members may not be sitting on $50-60 Million budget abilities with Cincy, Houston, and Central Florida to bring in the conference cash cow. Old Dominion would bring a strong history in hoops, a growing football program, and the largest budget in Conference USA.

If the AAC stuns everyone and adds six. This wouldn't be totally unheard of because they added 8 teams during the 2010-2014 realignment. So if they add six in addition to the four previously mentioned, I believe they will look at Buffalo from the Mid-American Conference and Rice from Conference USA. Buffalo as the flagship of the State University of New York system, largest budget in the MAC just under $50 Million, good football, good basketball, and a decent travel partner to Temple. Buffalo checks quite a few boxes for the AAC. Rice has a private school academic component that many western members on the AAC would like. Members like Tulane, Tulsa, and SMU would very likely favor Rice over Texas-San Antonio or North Texas. They have a history with Rice that I believe they wouldn't mind having again.


Florida Atlantic looked like a strong candidate to be a travel partner to South Florida, but I feel like their name is starting to fall off, and I suspect it may be because the AAC doesn't see South Florida remaining in their league when all the final movements are made.
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If I could pick myself,

UAB
Marshall
Louisiana
Appalachian State

However markets seem to be more important than success and facilities so who knows.
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How many times does Matt Brown have to be incorrect, until we stop taking what he says seriously?
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(10-09-2021 03:26 AM)BlazinBham Wrote:  How many times does Matt Brown have to be incorrect, until we stop taking what he says seriously?

Truth.
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(10-09-2021 02:59 AM)grapes Wrote:  If I could pick myself,

UAB
Marshall
Louisiana
Appalachian State

However markets seem to be more important than success and facilities so who knows.

We have a very long history with Louisiana-Lafayette, and know them pretty well.

Over the years, they have had a few opportunities to move “up” and better themselves in perception and competition but they’ve chosen to stay put.

They have historically been perfectly satisfied with where they are, and that’s fine. Tech has never been complacent nor satisfied with the status quo. Thus the natural “rub” of our two schools.

They’ve happily resided in the Sun Belt Conference for 30 years (including 20 since they started football), and I’d be really shocked if their philosophy has changed and are seriously pushing to leave the SBC now for the AAC.

They may be one of your personal picks…heck, they’ve been Tech’s too! But their answer has always been the same: “Nah bruh, we good.”
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(10-09-2021 08:33 AM)chuckk3 Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 02:59 AM)grapes Wrote:  If I could pick myself,

UAB
Marshall
Louisiana
Appalachian State

However markets seem to be more important than success and facilities so who knows.

We have a very long history with Louisiana-Lafayette, and know them pretty well.

Over the years, they have had a few opportunities to move “up” and better themselves in perception and competition but they’ve chosen to stay put.

They are satisfied with where they are, and that’s fine. Tech has never been complacent nor satisfied with the status quo. Thus the natural “rub” of our two schools.

They’ve happily resided in the Sun Belt Conference for 30 years (including 20 since they started football), and I’d be really shocked if their philosophy has changed and are seriously pushing to leave the SBC now for the AAC.

I like Tech but when it comes to facilities its a no brainer.
Louisiana would have one of the best basketball AND football stadiums in the AAC.

I was shocked when I saw them both.
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(10-08-2021 06:17 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  IF true this would be really rough for WKU. The geography stinks (yes it does matter)-- unless you have a big media deal-- MATTERS. No more easy bus trips to Marshall and UAB. Travel costs and time. It adds up quick. JMU and Liberty (possibles) are even 8.5 hours away.

I would think WKU would stand a good chance of getting back into the SBC. If this plays out like prescribed above, that would be my vote.

Before anyone says it, MAC is not an ideal option. Yes, if we need a home, we'd take it. But we are better suited for a southern league.
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(10-09-2021 03:26 AM)BlazinBham Wrote:  How many times does Matt Brown have to be incorrect, until we stop taking what he says seriously?

To be fair, he said "his guess" --- that is different than when he breaks a story (like Austin Peay going to the ASUN.) Select people are confusing one for the other on this thread.
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(10-09-2021 08:41 AM)grapes Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 08:33 AM)chuckk3 Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 02:59 AM)grapes Wrote:  If I could pick myself,

UAB
Marshall
Louisiana
Appalachian State

However markets seem to be more important than success and facilities so who knows.

We have a very long history with Louisiana-Lafayette, and know them pretty well.

Over the years, they have had a few opportunities to move “up” and better themselves in perception and competition but they’ve chosen to stay put.

They are satisfied with where they are, and that’s fine. Tech has never been complacent nor satisfied with the status quo. Thus the natural “rub” of our two schools.

They’ve happily resided in the Sun Belt Conference for 30 years (including 20 since they started football), and I’d be really shocked if their philosophy has changed and are seriously pushing to leave the SBC now for the AAC.

I like Tech but when it comes to facilities its a no brainer.
Louisiana would have one of the best basketball AND football stadiums in the AAC.

I was shocked when I saw them both.

Bigger is not nicer. Cajun field is not that nice as it is now. Now I hear they have good things on the horizon. TAC is just as nice as the Cajun Dome..
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(10-08-2021 11:39 PM)banker Wrote:  It’s not a good fit for Marshall because we honestly need to be in a good, redneck conference with a southern feel to it. That sounds stupid, but I look at the schools I feel we have most in common with and I get this list:

WKU
Middle
La Tech
Southern Miss
App State
Ga Southern
Troy
Arkansas State

To me those schools are like Marshall, not flashy, not big city teams, working class, not huge fan bases but the fans are loyal and knowledgeable. They take sports to heart and the games mean something to them. I want to be in a conference with schools like that, not Tulane, SMU, Tulsa and Temple. The only school I can identify with in the current AAC is ECU and the three schools that would be joining with us in this scenario are not on my “schools like us” list.

I feel this! Agree.
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(10-09-2021 08:47 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Bigger is not nicer. Cajun field is not that nice as it is now. Now I hear they have good things on the horizon. TAC is just as nice as the Cajun Dome..

It's nicer and bigger than LAT.
You're being sarcastic about "TAC" being better than CD I suppose?
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(10-09-2021 01:26 AM)All4One Wrote:  Now it's time for MY educated guess:

If the AAC takes two where football is a must, I believe they will take UAB and Charlotte. UAB for all the reasons we've been hearing about. Charlotte because of their market potential, decent basketball, fledging football, and history in Conference USA with current members. The budgets aren't where they need to be, but the AAC schools will likely see budget cuts themselves after the movements are made. Plus, Charlotte would serve as a travel partner to East Carolina, who is likely not to go to the Big XII.

If the AAC takes four where football is a must, I believe they will add in addition to the two mentioned above Marshall and Old Dominion. Marshall for their brand, history with some current AAC members, decent football, and fledging basketball. The AAC would need to lower the budget expectations for a time because the remaining AAC members may not be sitting on $50-60 Million budget abilities with Cincy, Houston, and Central Florida to bring in the conference cash cow. Old Dominion would bring a strong history in hoops, a growing football program, and the largest budget in Conference USA.

If the AAC stuns everyone and adds six. This wouldn't be totally unheard of because they added 8 teams during the 2010-2014 realignment. So if they add six in addition to the four previously mentioned, I believe they will look at Buffalo from the Mid-American Conference and Rice from Conference USA. Buffalo as the flagship of the State University of New York system, largest budget in the MAC just under $50 Million, good football, good basketball, and a decent travel partner to Temple. Buffalo checks quite a few boxes for the AAC. Rice has a private school academic component that many western members on the AAC would like. Members like Tulane, Tulsa, and SMU would very likely favor Rice over Texas-San Antonio or North Texas. They have a history with Rice that I believe they wouldn't mind having again.


Florida Atlantic looked like a strong candidate to be a travel partner to South Florida, but I feel like their name is starting to fall off, and I suspect it may be because the AAC doesn't see South Florida remaining in their league when all the final movements are made.
An ESPN analyst on a podcast just said Thursday that he thinks FAU and UAB are in for sure...

Matt brown who has been wrong a million times says these are his GUESSES and people take it as gospel

There are rumors all over the place. I'll wait and see what actually happens

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(10-09-2021 09:01 AM)grapes Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 08:47 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Bigger is not nicer. Cajun field is not that nice as it is now. Now I hear they have good things on the horizon. TAC is just as nice as the Cajun Dome..

It's nicer and bigger than LAT.
You're being sarcastic about "TAC" being better than CD I suppose?

No I have been there. Like I said it’s bigger but not nicer. But on that note they are both pretty decent arenas. I am not sure what AAC has but both TAC and The Cajun Dome are pretty nice and have had significant upgrades. The dome belongs to the city of Lafayette so they have kept it pretty nice for concerts. They were both built around the same time. I remember SMU still playing in thier historic gym. Has that changed?
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(10-09-2021 01:26 AM)All4One Wrote:  Now it's time for MY educated guess:

If the AAC.............

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(10-09-2021 09:02 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 01:26 AM)All4One Wrote:  Now it's time for MY educated guess:

If the AAC takes two where football is a must, I believe they will take UAB and Charlotte. UAB for all the reasons we've been hearing about. Charlotte because of their market potential, decent basketball, fledging football, and history in Conference USA with current members. The budgets aren't where they need to be, but the AAC schools will likely see budget cuts themselves after the movements are made. Plus, Charlotte would serve as a travel partner to East Carolina, who is likely not to go to the Big XII.

If the AAC takes four where football is a must, I believe they will add in addition to the two mentioned above Marshall and Old Dominion. Marshall for their brand, history with some current AAC members, decent football, and fledging basketball. The AAC would need to lower the budget expectations for a time because the remaining AAC members may not be sitting on $50-60 Million budget abilities with Cincy, Houston, and Central Florida to bring in the conference cash cow. Old Dominion would bring a strong history in hoops, a growing football program, and the largest budget in Conference USA.

If the AAC stuns everyone and adds six. This wouldn't be totally unheard of because they added 8 teams during the 2010-2014 realignment. So if they add six in addition to the four previously mentioned, I believe they will look at Buffalo from the Mid-American Conference and Rice from Conference USA. Buffalo as the flagship of the State University of New York system, largest budget in the MAC just under $50 Million, good football, good basketball, and a decent travel partner to Temple. Buffalo checks quite a few boxes for the AAC. Rice has a private school academic component that many western members on the AAC would like. Members like Tulane, Tulsa, and SMU would very likely favor Rice over Texas-San Antonio or North Texas. They have a history with Rice that I believe they wouldn't mind having again.


Florida Atlantic looked like a strong candidate to be a travel partner to South Florida, but I feel like their name is starting to fall off, and I suspect it may be because the AAC doesn't see South Florida remaining in their league when all the final movements are made.
An ESPN analyst on a podcast just said Thursday that he thinks FAU and UAB are in for sure...

Matt brown who has been wrong a million times says these are his GUESSES and people take it as gospel

There are rumors all over the place. I'll wait and see what actually happens

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(10-09-2021 08:47 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 08:41 AM)grapes Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 08:33 AM)chuckk3 Wrote:  
(10-09-2021 02:59 AM)grapes Wrote:  If I could pick myself,

UAB
Marshall
Louisiana
Appalachian State

However markets seem to be more important than success and facilities so who knows.

We have a very long history with Louisiana-Lafayette, and know them pretty well.

Over the years, they have had a few opportunities to move “up” and better themselves in perception and competition but they’ve chosen to stay put.

They are satisfied with where they are, and that’s fine. Tech has never been complacent nor satisfied with the status quo. Thus the natural “rub” of our two schools.

They’ve happily resided in the Sun Belt Conference for 30 years (including 20 since they started football), and I’d be really shocked if their philosophy has changed and are seriously pushing to leave the SBC now for the AAC.

I like Tech but when it comes to facilities its a no brainer.
Louisiana would have one of the best basketball AND football stadiums in the AAC.

I was shocked when I saw them both.

Bigger is not nicer. Cajun field is not that nice as it is now. Now I hear they have good things on the horizon. TAC is just as nice as the Cajun Dome..

I don’t know about that one chief, CD is pretty solid.
I’ve been to the TAC needs a few million in renovations.

It’s not a negative, but it’s not a positive.
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(10-09-2021 09:04 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  No I have been there. Like I said it’s bigger but not nicer. But on that note they are both pretty decent arenas. I am not sure what AAC has but both TAC and The Cajun Dome are pretty nice and have had significant upgrades. The dome belongs to the city of Lafayette so they have kept it pretty nice for concerts. They were both built around the same time. I remember SMU still playing in thier historic gym. Has that changed?

In my opinion TAC looks extremely outdated and the CD looks like a brand new state of the art stadium. For LAT I think it mostly has to do with the layout of the dome style circular seating. That is some 80's type stuff lol.

SMU had a full renovation when the moved to the AAC and has become one of the best home courts in the AAC. The students are right on top of you and really has a Duke type feel.

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