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RE: Orlando Sentinel: SBC Continues to Monitor Conference Realignment Moves
(10-06-2021 09:43 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
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(10-06-2021 09:05 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(10-06-2021 08:40 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Sounds to me like USM wants into the SBC but the SBC isn’t going to pull the trigger unless we can get Marshall or UAB to come with them and both of those schools are still holding out for the AAC.

It's been quiet in Huntington, but there's starting to be some whispers about Marshall and the AAC. No idea if we get invited or if we make the move, but I'm sure we are at least one of the top candidates.

I mean are you really though? A top candidate?

Big 12 = No
Boise = No
SDSU = No
Air Force = No
CSU = No
UTSA = No

That doesn’t seem like a top choice to me, but what do I know. Other than I’m replying to an idiot.


Raiding the Big 12 was a non starter.

MWC teams leaving to join the AAC was not very likely.

No evidence that UTSA has said no or that they were even offered. I suspect, even if they have said no, then it's the same as Ga St. Just their way of saving face. Look at the UTSA basketball gym, I mean arena. Do you think Memphis, Wichita St, Temple, SMU are going to be ok with playing in THAT? No chance.

. . . and their Baseball facilities are even worse than their Hoops Arena . . .
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RE: Orlando Sentinel: SBC Continues to Monitor Conference Realignment Moves
IMO, Louisiana is the only SBC team who will get a serious look and I truly think Louisiana is a serious candidate unless Tulane is blocking them.

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Also can't forget state flagship with their name LOUISIANA 05-stirthepot
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RE: Orlando Sentinel: SBC Continues to Monitor Conference Realignment Moves
(10-06-2021 08:58 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I think the Belt will expand by at least 2 before the football season is over. I know CUSA fans are in denial but at least 6 of them have reached out to the Sun Belt. It is not 100 percent certain but it is believed no one is leaving the Belt for the AAC

Yeah, it should be clarified that we intend to add Southern Miss regardless. The holding pattern is which friends they bring along.
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RE: Orlando Sentinel: SBC Continues to Monitor Conference Realignment Moves
(10-06-2021 10:02 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  IMO, Louisiana is the only SBC team who will get a serious look and I truly think Louisiana is a serious candidate unless Tulane is blocking them.

Solid support in all sports, great facilities, recent success, good academics.

Also can't forget state flagship with their name LOUISIANA 05-stirthepot

Didn't you just say in the last page that no SBC team would be considered? Make up your mind man. You just keep spewing stuff out there hoping one will be true.
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RE: Orlando Sentinel: SBC Continues to Monitor Conference Realignment Moves
(10-06-2021 10:41 PM)statefanatic Wrote:  
(10-06-2021 10:02 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  IMO, Louisiana is the only SBC team who will get a serious look and I truly think Louisiana is a serious candidate unless Tulane is blocking them.

Solid support in all sports, great facilities, recent success, good academics.

Also can't forget state flagship with their name LOUISIANA 05-stirthepot

Didn't you just say in the last page that no SBC team would be considered? Make up your mind man. You just keep spewing stuff out there hoping one will be true.

He's said so many things by now that odds are one of them will happen and he'll make sure we all know he was right...
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RE: Orlando Sentinel: SBC Continues to Monitor Conference Realignment Moves
(10-06-2021 09:05 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(10-06-2021 08:40 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Sounds to me like USM wants into the SBC but the SBC isn’t going to pull the trigger unless we can get Marshall or UAB to come with them and both of those schools are still holding out for the AAC.

It's been quiet in Huntington, but there's starting to be some whispers about Marshall and the AAC. No idea if we get invited or if we make the move, but I'm sure we are at least one of the top candidates.

Well, having your word for it has convinced me that’s not gonna happen.
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RE: Orlando Sentinel: SBC Continues to Monitor Conference Realignment Moves
AAC short list
CLT
FAU
UAB
UTSA

Others being considered
Liberty
App St
coastal
Ga St
La Laf

AAC will most likely use the current trend of programs in major cities that have shown promise/commitment.
Word is they want to go to 16 teams to retain "P6" designation and add:

liberty
App St
Coastal
La LLaf
Rice or Ga St, most likely Ga St has Rice has not made commitment to compete at AAC level. Rice has great academics and is in a major TV market but its commitment is an issue. Ga St is in a major city in a new market that has commited to compete at an= higher level but needs to raise it's commitment level.
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(10-06-2021 11:57 PM)The WEST is the BEST Wrote:  AAC short list
CLT
FAU
UAB
UTSA

Others being considered
Liberty
App St
coastal
Ga St
La Laf

AAC will most likely use the current trend of programs in major cities that have shown promise/commitment.
Word is they want to go to 16 teams to retain "P6" designation and add:

liberty
App St
Coastal
La LLaf
Rice or Ga St, most likely Ga St has Rice has not made commitment to compete at AAC level. Rice has great academics and is in a major TV market but its commitment is an issue. Ga St is in a major city in a new market that has commited to compete at an= higher level but needs to raise it's commitment level.

Yeah they ain’t adding any SBC teams and they aren’t going over 10
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RE: Orlando Sentinel: SBC Continues to Monitor Conference Realignment Moves
(10-06-2021 08:38 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  The 2 and 4 team addition possibilities are still on the table. When the AAC makes its additions the SBC will look at its options and will make its moves if any are made. Believe it or not accepting an AAC offer is not a given for every school. The stability of the AAC is in some doubt and whoever they add at this point will result in a drop of their per team payout

I wonder if all of the other G5 conferences are willing to "Hold the line" so to speak and leave the AAC hanging out to dry, knowing their top teams have left and that their value is severely diminished as an opportunity to self serve and get them their own better updated tv deals and a few more teams in the event of a collapse. I can't think any of the other commissioners are willing to lend a hand, especially how the AAC has tried to make itself superior in every way to the other four.
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(10-06-2021 07:36 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  
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(10-06-2021 04:19 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Interesting quotes to me. Makes me think the SBC isn't going to be able to poach CUSA teams so Gill is setting the stage for saying 10 teams is what's best.


Quote:“We’re evaluating the landscape and certainly have our eyes open as to what is happening and what some of our other conference colleagues are doing,” Gill said. “If there are some opportunities for us to grow and they make sense, we’re open to that but at the same time, we feel good about our 10 football-playing schools. We’re a strong college football conference and we feel good where we are and how we’re positioned.

“We know 10 [member schools] is a good number and maybe that’s the best place for us to be.”

That’s the same statement we gave early on in this. We’re open to the right expansion options but also comfortable with our 10 if need be. He didn’t say anything earth shattering there. We’re not going to straight up announce our plan

You know I like our conference like it is but I wouldn't mind taking USM and especially Marshal to shut that idiot up.

I’m happy at 10.
I’m happy if we add USM.
I’m happy if we can snag UAB
I’m happy if the presidents get their dream add of Rice.
I’m happy if we add Marshall
I’m happy if we add JMU
I’m perfectly content with adding UTSA
I don’t like the geography but I’d take FAU
I’m fine with WKU

But I’d have to be sold on more than two.

If the Sun Belt comes through with the same 10 football schools we have now, we are realignment winners.
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(10-06-2021 08:40 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Sounds to me like USM wants into the SBC but the SBC isn’t going to pull the trigger unless we can get Marshall or UAB to come with them and both of those schools are still holding out for the AAC.

Honestly that would be out of character for the league. We’ve dealt weird numbers often.
Don’t expand to get magic numbers, expand to get schools that make the league better. If that’s one team, 11 can work. Wei’ve done it. B1G did it for a long time.
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(10-07-2021 12:58 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-06-2021 08:40 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Sounds to me like USM wants into the SBC but the SBC isn’t going to pull the trigger unless we can get Marshall or UAB to come with them and both of those schools are still holding out for the AAC.

Honestly that would be out of character for the league. We’ve dealt weird numbers often.
Don’t expand to get magic numbers, expand to get schools that make the league better. If that’s one team, 11 can work. Wei’ve done it. B1G did it for a long time.
This. I'd be surprised if USM isn't added regardless of what happens. Too perfect a geographic and institutional fit in the West.
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(10-06-2021 08:40 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Sounds to me like USM wants into the SBC but the SBC isn’t going to pull the trigger unless we can get Marshall or UAB to come with them and both of those schools are still holding out for the AAC.

I think the increasing possibility of instability with the AAC in the future versus the relative stability of the SBC is a significant factor. The AAC being refused by the MWC teams put USM higher up the AAC list, but from a budgetary standpoint as well as geography and fitting in with a similar type of institutions, USM to the SBC seems inevitable.
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It's master class in saying something while not saying anything.
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(10-07-2021 06:57 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  It's master class in saying something while not saying anything.

Nah, he did say “**** UT-A & Little Rock”. That was pretty clear.
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(10-07-2021 12:58 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-06-2021 08:40 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Sounds to me like USM wants into the SBC but the SBC isn’t going to pull the trigger unless we can get Marshall or UAB to come with them and both of those schools are still holding out for the AAC.

Honestly that would be out of character for the league. We’ve dealt weird numbers often.
Don’t expand to get magic numbers, expand to get schools that make the league better. If that’s one team, 11 can work. Wei’ve done it. B1G did it for a long time.

Surely USM has enough interest on their own merits we could make a move happen if they also wanted said move. JMU is always there in the east. Missouri State in the west. There’s plenty of teams to try and pair with USM to make 12. Going to 12 just to snag USM is a good move.
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(10-07-2021 06:56 AM)FairwayEagle Wrote:  
(10-06-2021 08:40 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Sounds to me like USM wants into the SBC but the SBC isn’t going to pull the trigger unless we can get Marshall or UAB to come with them and both of those schools are still holding out for the AAC.

I think the increasing possibility of instability with the AAC in the future versus the relative stability of the SBC is a significant factor. The AAC being refused by the MWC teams put USM higher up the AAC list, but from a budgetary standpoint as well as geography and fitting in with a similar type of institutions, USM to the SBC seems inevitable.
I would guess Marshall plans to just about double their athletic budget just to get into the ballpark of the lower end of AAC schools. Gotta wonder about the long term feasibility of a watered down league and concerns regarding any long term stability. Would be an interesting decision to say the least.
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A JMU add would be the same type of add that App was. It would make the league stronger, in my opinion.

Adding USM is a no-brainer due to culture and location.

Those two would be my top choices at this time. Especially if Marshall wants to follow the path of ECU of almost killing off their athletic dept with debt and a bunch of teams locals could give a rats ass about.
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(10-07-2021 06:56 AM)FairwayEagle Wrote:  
(10-06-2021 08:40 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Sounds to me like USM wants into the SBC but the SBC isn’t going to pull the trigger unless we can get Marshall or UAB to come with them and both of those schools are still holding out for the AAC.

I think the increasing possibility of instability with the AAC in the future versus the relative stability of the SBC is a significant factor. The AAC being refused by the MWC teams put USM higher up the AAC list, but from a budgetary standpoint as well as geography and fitting in with a similar type of institutions, USM to the SBC seems inevitable.

I know there are some old guard fans of Southern Miss who wouldn’t want to see USM in the SBC but I think the new wave of fans to come through would enjoy it. It would provide them local teams to develop heated contests with. If USM loves playing Tech or UAB there is always OOC games.
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(10-07-2021 08:25 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  A JMU add would be the same type of add that App was. It would make the league stronger, in my opinion.

Adding USM is a no-brainer due to culture and location.

Those two would be my top choices at this time. Especially if Marshall wants to follow the path of ECU of almost killing off their athletic dept with debt and a bunch of teams locals could give a rats ass about.

Question is does JMU hate the CAA enough to move without any additional adds to the SBC East? Or would they rather join the depleted C-USA east? Also are they okay being in a conference that goes west of Georgia and Florida?

If Marshall is off the board for the east I think JMU, Liberty, and WKU have to be the top 3 you try to get one of.
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