(10-04-2021 10:29 PM)jsw3ent Wrote: (10-04-2021 10:11 PM)Alanda Wrote: (10-04-2021 09:31 PM)jsw3ent Wrote: DID YOU NOT READ THE POST THAT I RESPONDED 2---THAT SAID EXPAND IN A COUPLE YEARS---REALLY DID YOU RESPOND WITHOUT ACTUALLY READING WHAT I RESPONDED TO
I definitely misread that part of the post and admit being wrong.
(10-04-2021 09:37 PM)jsw3ent Wrote: Call it walk-ups or single game tickets purchased why limit the number of fans -----is it better for a sellout of 40-45K seat stadium ----or sometimes 50-55k+----in a 60k seat stadium-----we get in a power 5 with less cupcakes--we will need a stadium as big as MMS
But it's not a limit if you have a large amount going unused. We haven't shown we can potentially consistently sell out a 40-45k stadium. If you go to link I posted you'll see that a lot of Power 5 teams aren't drawing the attendance needed for a 60k stadium. And I know you mentioned Boise State being told by the Big 12 to expand their stadium. But I would not expect the number to be high. I posted this in your OCS thread. You can see the capacities of who were invited and who are already in the conference. Seven of them (ignoring Oklahoma and Texas) are around 50k and lower. And there are more than enough P5 schools with stadiums well under 60k to show we wouldn't need something that large.
THANKS --that showed you have integrity -----unlike another person on here that is worse than FONZIE at saying he was wrong LOL
You made some valid points
My contention is that when/if we get in a so-called power 5 ---with less cupcakes then attendance will improve --think OLE PIZZ game 60,241 SMU 59,506----imagine if we only had a 40-45k seat stadium--all the fans that would have been deprived
Supposedly Boise going to 53k
I wish I could feel the same way. Games like those Ole Miss and SMU ones are
so few and far between that on their own they just don't justify a large stadium to me. When we played Ole Miss in 2019 the announced attendance was 44,107.
Let's flip the perspective around and look at Ole Miss and Miss. State. Both teams are in the SEC and both have 60k+ stadiums. In the article about the five-year attendance averages OM was 26th at 57,587.6 and MSU was 25th at 58,488. They consistently played better teams over that span and were short of their stadium capacities (64,038 and 61,337 respectively). For us to build new at/stick with something of the current size we would be expecting spikes in attendance or even better averages that are top 25-30 in the nation. I feel that is just too much to hope for and in turn build around.
I get what you saying in that regard, but I see that as overly committing to a random group of people that have shown a great amount of inconsistency in showing up. And I am not saying that as a knock on them as they all have their reasons why that I don't know about. But a business, in this case the stadium, can't be built around that level of inconsistency. Plus while I can't say this as fact, I would assume there would not be a goal of selling 100% of seats as season tickets. I don't see the walk-up crowd being denied from that angle.
My choice has been a 45k stadium potentially expandable to 50k if something new was built. I believe that would be appropriate for us based on history.
I found info about the Boise St expansion and
this article goes back to 2012 stating their expansion plans and roughly the same amount you mention. Seems like that was always their goal, so maybe the Big 12 wanted to see how soon they would get there instead of telling them they have to expand to that amount?