If CUSA did all of the following:

- Fired Judy

- Hired Jim Delaney

- signed a deal with the ESPN

I think that alone would keep a lot of us content.

(09-15-2021 10:04 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 09:48 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 09:35 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 09:29 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 09:27 AM)rileylives Wrote:  I've never understood why Marshall has chosen ODU as it's dance partner, and not Western. It should be Western or FAU in these talks with the AAC or Sun Belt.

Is it, possibly, because FAU wants to have nothing to do with Sunbelt?

Maybe, but I'd hate to see the dust settle and have quality programs like La Tech, FAU and Western get left over with a bunch of FCS call uos.

That's my fear too. But I don't know that the sun belt would take FAU or wku back. I asked the same on their board and got mixed messages

Also I do like app, coastal , and the 2 Georgia schools. But also find it funny marshall and ODU want to leave a league with western schools to join one with schools in the same states... And schools like Louisiana Monroe and Texas state are way inferior to our schools in those states

If just UAB and rice left for example , we'd be fine if the sun belt didn't poach us. But sounds like you guys want to move on and I dont get excited about sun belt west schools

Firing Judy and staying together is fine with me. But so many are looking to bolt that FAU has to look too

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I hold your exact same sentiment. I do not get excited at all about those western Sun Belt teams, but if something were to work itself out like a best of the rest configuration, I am absolutely on board for that.

It might actually just be in Marshall's best interest to stand Pat with the rest of y'all and go forward, really only App State gets our juices flowing. But so does Western.

Sun Belt members have said they are against geographic realignment or best of the rest though ..

So if you guys , southern miss and odu truly want to join , you are going to be with their schools in Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas and Texas.

Again I think firing the leaders here would be better than doing that. I only care about 4 of the 10 belt members. And Georgia state could be a AAC add

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(09-15-2021 10:09 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 10:04 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 09:48 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 09:35 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 09:29 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  Is it, possibly, because FAU wants to have nothing to do with Sunbelt?

Maybe, but I'd hate to see the dust settle and have quality programs like La Tech, FAU and Western get left over with a bunch of FCS call uos.

That's my fear too. But I don't know that the sun belt would take FAU or wku back. I asked the same on their board and got mixed messages

Also I do like app, coastal , and the 2 Georgia schools. But also find it funny marshall and ODU want to leave a league with western schools to join one with schools in the same states... And schools like Louisiana Monroe and Texas state are way inferior to our schools in those states

If just UAB and rice left for example , we'd be fine if the sun belt didn't poach us. But sounds like you guys want to move on and I dont get excited about sun belt west schools

Firing Judy and staying together is fine with me. But so many are looking to bolt that FAU has to look too

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I hold your exact same sentiment. I do not get excited at all about those western Sun Belt teams, but if something were to work itself out like a best of the rest configuration, I am absolutely on board for that.

It might actually just be in Marshall's best interest to stand Pat with the rest of y'all and go forward, really only App State gets our juices flowing. But so does Western.

Sun Belt members have said they are against geographic realignment or best of the rest though ..

So if you guys , southern miss and odu truly want to join , you are going to be with their schools in Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas and Texas.

Again I think firing the leaders here would be better than doing that. I only care about 4 of the 10 belt members. And Georgia state could be a AAC add

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Yeah, still a lot to be determined. The Sunbelt posters are oddly taking a position of power, I don't think they have nearly the power they think they have.

Most of us here agreed a merger of the best of the rest or a regional alignment made the most sense, but nope, the Sun Belt board does not want any part of that.

So we will see. I agree, simply just joining the Sun Belt is not ideal, and I got absolutely torched flamed for that take.

I can see why people say UAB is a legit candidate for the AAC. After that, I think any CUSA will have extreme difficulty financially trying to compete in even a watered down league. If Memphis and SMU leave at some point as well, that league is not all that attractive.

If the SB keeps App St in the fold and proactively adds to the league with quality programs, that league would be much more attractive. Jmo.

A severely watered down AAC will lose media money and bowl ties pretty quickly.

(09-15-2021 10:08 AM)rileylives Wrote:  If CUSA did all of the following:

- Fired Judy

- Hired Jim Delaney

- signed a deal with the ESPN

I think that alone would keep a lot of us content.

No way ESPN signs anything long term with C-USA right now. Too much of a flight risk. If anything was signed it would be full of opt out clauses and would be bottom barrel payouts because they know how desperate we are.

(09-15-2021 10:31 AM)freshtop Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 10:08 AM)rileylives Wrote:  If CUSA did all of the following:

- Fired Judy

- Hired Jim Delaney

- signed a deal with the ESPN

I think that alone would keep a lot of us content.

No way ESPN signs anything long term with C-USA right now. Too much of a flight risk. If anything was signed it would be full of opt out clauses and would be bottom barrel payouts because they know how desperate we are.

I was making a point. None of those will happen, which is why the realignment instability will continue.

(09-15-2021 10:53 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 10:31 AM)freshtop Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 10:08 AM)rileylives Wrote:  If CUSA did all of the following:

- Fired Judy

- Hired Jim Delaney

- signed a deal with the ESPN

I think that alone would keep a lot of us content.

No way ESPN signs anything long term with C-USA right now. Too much of a flight risk. If anything was signed it would be full of opt out clauses and would be bottom barrel payouts because they know how desperate we are.

I was making a point. None of those will happen, which is why the realignment instability will continue.

I agree that your list would have made a solid plan in 2015.

(09-14-2021 09:19 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 08:37 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 07:05 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 06:39 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  If almost everybody jumps ship I imagine these would be the backbone of the new new new shell. Somebody please tell me I’m wrong

If it goes that way then WKU and Louisiana Tech will be a good base to build from. However, I seriously doubt that CUSA teams will pay the exit fee to play on Tuesday and Wednesday night verse Sunbelt teams. If they're stupid enough to do that, then good riddance.

I PROMISE you, Marshall will accept an invite to the AAC or the Sunbelt by the end of September. UAB, USM and ODU (to my disdain) are also reportedly tied to us, being sold as a package deal, aka we're going to the sunbelt or the AAC together. IMO either conference those schools join will end up being the better league between the two.

The AAC determines the "package" of teams although I could see those 4 schools telling the SB it's a package or bust.

Honestly, I think the SBC would be making a mistake to take on 4. They should do two and I think they should target Marshall and USM. It would bring decent brands, decent geography and wouldn’t water down the tv deal too much. It would also be a win for CUSA because we would go to 12 and could keep divisions the same.

(09-15-2021 12:14 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 09:19 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 08:37 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 07:05 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 06:39 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  If almost everybody jumps ship I imagine these would be the backbone of the new new new shell. Somebody please tell me I’m wrong

If it goes that way then WKU and Louisiana Tech will be a good base to build from. However, I seriously doubt that CUSA teams will pay the exit fee to play on Tuesday and Wednesday night verse Sunbelt teams. If they're stupid enough to do that, then good riddance.

I PROMISE you, Marshall will accept an invite to the AAC or the Sunbelt by the end of September. UAB, USM and ODU (to my disdain) are also reportedly tied to us, being sold as a package deal, aka we're going to the sunbelt or the AAC together. IMO either conference those schools join will end up being the better league between the two.

The AAC determines the "package" of teams although I could see those 4 schools telling the SB it's a package or bust.

Honestly, I think the SBC would be making a mistake to take on 4. They should do two and I think they should target Marshall and USM. It would bring decent brands, decent geography and wouldn’t water down the tv deal too much. It would also be a win for CUSA because we would go to 12 and could keep divisions the same.

I'm not a fan of just joining the Sun Belt as is.

I'm not certain that that would be a good move for Marshall. I would be in favor of a regional configuration between Sun Belt and CUSA teams, or a best of the rest conference, or couple of their bottom performers being dropped in favor of inviting more top programs in.

Just joining the Belt as is to me seems like a lateral move, or worse considering the lack of basketball or in Marshall's case soccer. Or Southern Miss with their baseball program. At least some of the Sun Beltt programs play good baseball, but I think our men's soccer would be hurting, unless a miracle could happen and we could park our men's soccer program in the ACC.

(09-14-2021 08:36 PM)banker Wrote:  The truth is I just want away from the Texas teams. Don’t hate them or anything, just will always feel disjointed. We haven’t even played UTEP in 11-12 years. 14 teams are just too many, especially with the geography.

Agree. Texas teams are tired of the eastern schools as well. Nothing in common.

(09-15-2021 12:45 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 08:36 PM)banker Wrote:  The truth is I just want away from the Texas teams. Don’t hate them or anything, just will always feel disjointed. We haven’t even played UTEP in 11-12 years. 14 teams are just too many, especially with the geography.

Agree. Texas teams are tired of the eastern schools as well. Nothing in common.

Those are big boy words considering only the Eastern teams consistently show up for Marshall games.

I can't remember the last time we had a decent show of away fans from the texas-based programs.

Western usually brings a good contingent, ODU fans have come.

Maybe you don't like us because historically we win so much, I don't know...

(09-15-2021 12:14 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 09:19 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 08:37 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 07:05 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 06:39 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  If almost everybody jumps ship I imagine these would be the backbone of the new new new shell. Somebody please tell me I’m wrong

If it goes that way then WKU and Louisiana Tech will be a good base to build from. However, I seriously doubt that CUSA teams will pay the exit fee to play on Tuesday and Wednesday night verse Sunbelt teams. If they're stupid enough to do that, then good riddance.

I PROMISE you, Marshall will accept an invite to the AAC or the Sunbelt by the end of September. UAB, USM and ODU (to my disdain) are also reportedly tied to us, being sold as a package deal, aka we're going to the sunbelt or the AAC together. IMO either conference those schools join will end up being the better league between the two.

The AAC determines the "package" of teams although I could see those 4 schools telling the SB it's a package or bust.

Honestly, I think the SBC would be making a mistake to take on 4. They should do two and I think they should target Marshall and USM. It would bring decent brands, decent geography and wouldn’t water down the tv deal too much. It would also be a win for CUSA because we would go to 12 and could keep divisions the same.

The Sunbelt isn't taking anybody from CUSA or vice versa. Both conferences are about to lose a couple of their best members. There will be nothing left of the Sunbelt-CUSA wasteland. The conferences will reorganize or align in order to decrease travel and maximize ticket sales. We're all stuck together in the bottom of FBS.

(09-15-2021 12:53 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 12:14 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 09:19 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 08:37 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 07:05 PM)deb025 Wrote:  If it goes that way then WKU and Louisiana Tech will be a good base to build from. However, I seriously doubt that CUSA teams will pay the exit fee to play on Tuesday and Wednesday night verse Sunbelt teams. If they're stupid enough to do that, then good riddance.

I PROMISE you, Marshall will accept an invite to the AAC or the Sunbelt by the end of September. UAB, USM and ODU (to my disdain) are also reportedly tied to us, being sold as a package deal, aka we're going to the sunbelt or the AAC together. IMO either conference those schools join will end up being the better league between the two.

The AAC determines the "package" of teams although I could see those 4 schools telling the SB it's a package or bust.

Honestly, I think the SBC would be making a mistake to take on 4. They should do two and I think they should target Marshall and USM. It would bring decent brands, decent geography and wouldn’t water down the tv deal too much. It would also be a win for CUSA because we would go to 12 and could keep divisions the same.

The Sunbelt isn't taking anybody from CUSA or vice versa. Both conferences are about to lose a couple of their best members. There will be nothing left of the Sunbelt-CUSA wasteland. The conferences will reorganize or align in order to decrease travel and maximize ticket sales. We're all stuck together in the bottom of FBS.

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(09-15-2021 10:22 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  I can see why people say UAB is a legit candidate for the AAC.

Sometimes the obvious isn't always quite so obvious

(09-15-2021 09:48 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 09:35 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 09:29 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 09:27 AM)rileylives Wrote:  I've never understood why Marshall has chosen ODU as it's dance partner, and not Western. It should be Western or FAU in these talks with the AAC or Sun Belt.

Is it, possibly, because FAU wants to have nothing to do with Sunbelt?

Maybe, but I'd hate to see the dust settle and have quality programs like La Tech, FAU and Western get left over with a bunch of FCS call uos.

That's my fear too. But I don't know that the sun belt would take FAU or wku back. I asked the same on their board and got mixed messages

Also I do like app, coastal , and the 2 Georgia schools. But also find it funny marshall and ODU want to leave a league with western schools to join one with schools in the same states... And schools like Louisiana Monroe and Texas state are way inferior to our schools in those states

If just UAB and rice left for example , we'd be fine if the sun belt didn't poach us. But sounds like you guys want to move on and I dont get excited about sun belt west schools

Firing Judy and staying together is fine with me. But so many are looking to bolt that FAU has to look too

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I think Marshall wanting to leave has more to do with the poor leadership of this conference than anything else. To be honest, top to bottom, all sports, CUSA is a MUCH better conference than the SBC and is very much on par with the new AAC.....BUT, when it comes to leadership, there's not enough words to describe how crappy CUSA is in comparison to the other conferences.

(09-15-2021 10:08 AM)rileylives Wrote:  If CUSA did all of the following:

- Fired Judy

- Hired Jim Delaney

- signed a deal with the ESPN

I think that alone would keep a lot of us content.

2/3 would make me ecstatic but just firing Judy would hold me over as it would at least signal they know there needs to be a change and they are willing to make some changes.

(09-15-2021 12:45 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 08:36 PM)banker Wrote:  The truth is I just want away from the Texas teams. Don’t hate them or anything, just will always feel disjointed. We haven’t even played UTEP in 11-12 years. 14 teams are just too many, especially with the geography.

Agree. Texas teams are tired of the eastern schools as well. Nothing in common.

I am not sure if I have ever shared this...but all my ex's live in Texas.

(09-14-2021 07:55 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 07:38 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 07:05 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 06:39 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  If almost everybody jumps ship I imagine these would be the backbone of the new new new shell. Somebody please tell me I’m wrong

If it goes that way then WKU and Louisiana Tech will be a good base to build from. However, I seriously doubt that CUSA teams will pay the exit fee to play on Tuesday and Wednesday night verse Sunbelt teams. If they're stupid enough to do that, then good riddance.

Well, first the cusa media sucks in comparison to the SBC’s. Everyone knows that is the case, including the majority of cusa fans on this board. Secondly, there are a whole lot of other reasons why the SBC would be better for several cusa schools, like the geographical footprint, leadership, etc. I don’t need to list them all or go into detail about them as there ready plenty threads on this board alone that do a very good job of doing that.

You can always count on FrankyP/LaCajunsFan to bend the truth. I think we can all agree that we're Bobcats fans this week. Hopefully, Ohio will get the W this
THURSDAY.
Yep, that's the correct day; Thursday. Get used to those Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday games any CUSA teams thinking of jumping to the Suckbelt.

Thursday on ESPN. Not ESPN2, ESPNU, or ESPN+.

As far as teams that may be jumping, that’s a different story. USM, Marshall, ODU, UAB, Charlotte and UTSA have all been in constant contact with the SBC office.

(09-15-2021 04:07 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 07:55 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 07:38 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 07:05 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 06:39 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  If almost everybody jumps ship I imagine these would be the backbone of the new new new shell. Somebody please tell me I’m wrong

If it goes that way then WKU and Louisiana Tech will be a good base to build from. However, I seriously doubt that CUSA teams will pay the exit fee to play on Tuesday and Wednesday night verse Sunbelt teams. If they're stupid enough to do that, then good riddance.

Well, first the cusa media sucks in comparison to the SBC’s. Everyone knows that is the case, including the majority of cusa fans on this board. Secondly, there are a whole lot of other reasons why the SBC would be better for several cusa schools, like the geographical footprint, leadership, etc. I don’t need to list them all or go into detail about them as there ready plenty threads on this board alone that do a very good job of doing that.

You can always count on FrankyP/LaCajunsFan to bend the truth. I think we can all agree that we're Bobcats fans this week. Hopefully, Ohio will get the W this
THURSDAY.
Yep, that's the correct day; Thursday. Get used to those Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday games any CUSA teams thinking of jumping to the Suckbelt.

Thursday on ESPN. Not ESPN2, ESPNU, or ESPN+.

As far as teams that may be jumping, that’s a different story. USM, Marshall, ODU, UAB, Charlotte and UTSA have all been in constant contact with the SBC office.

Please, provide your evidence.