Oklahoma State and TCU may still be their targets.

PAC can take 2. ACC can take 2. Big 12 falls back to 8 and is forced to take Memphis, Boise, USF, and SMU/CSU.

Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda.

I dont believe it.

(09-11-2021 03:29 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda.

I dont believe it.

I can believe Houston and OSU. Cant see them taking a religious based school.

I do wonder if 2 nB12 teams may get poached as I can't believe they would expand again without teams leaving.

SMU is religious in name only.

Don't understand why they didn't pull the trigger now, other than it's very difficult to get that group of schools to do anything, even something in their own self-interest. They have nowhere to grow on their home turf (or refuse to grow with the available schools like Boise and SDSU)--they need the Central time zone like the article suggests. Their deal is about to expire! I don't get it.

(09-11-2021 06:36 PM)justinslot Wrote:  Don't understand why they didn't pull the trigger now, other than it's very difficult to get that group of schools to do anything, even something in their own self-interest. They have nowhere to grow on their home turf (or refuse to grow with the available schools like Boise and SDSU)--they need the Central time zone like the article suggests. Their deal is about to expire! I don't get it.

They will wait until they begin negotiating their new TV contract. If there is more value in adding them they will, if not they won't.

(09-11-2021 09:10 AM)Agust Wrote:  one of the reasons houston was chosen over memphis was because of the market.
they didn't want to lose more of the state to the SEC and thought that houston being in the B12 would be able to take that share.

this allowed them to clear the hurdle of too many texas teams and them not wanting to elevate houston. it was printed off an article not to long ago. my guess is they also wanted to PAC12 from also getting a cut of the share. as for houston the B12 is a better fit and the PAC12 is also close to getting poached soon so i dont see a need to move.

Houston was chosen over Memphis because of Texas politics. End of story. Happens with the Texas schools every time. Wouldn’t be surprised if it also results in an smu invite. If TCU wasn’t already there I would say it would be 100%. Probably the only thing that keeps them out.

(09-11-2021 09:44 PM)Fluke Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:10 AM)Agust Wrote:  one of the reasons houston was chosen over memphis was because of the market.
they didn't want to lose more of the state to the SEC and thought that houston being in the B12 would be able to take that share.

this allowed them to clear the hurdle of too many texas teams and them not wanting to elevate houston. it was printed off an article not to long ago. my guess is they also wanted to PAC12 from also getting a cut of the share. as for houston the B12 is a better fit and the PAC12 is also close to getting poached soon so i dont see a need to move.

Houston was chosen over Memphis because of Texas politics. End of story. Happens with the Texas schools every time. Wouldn’t be surprised if it also results in an smu invite

Tillman Fertitta isnt a politician or part of texas poltics,.... point to any credible source that says it was politics???
there are sources that say it had nothing to do with politics

sour grapes from memphis fans ...

(09-11-2021 09:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:44 PM)Fluke Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:10 AM)Agust Wrote:  one of the reasons houston was chosen over memphis was because of the market.
they didn't want to lose more of the state to the SEC and thought that houston being in the B12 would be able to take that share.

this allowed them to clear the hurdle of too many texas teams and them not wanting to elevate houston. it was printed off an article not to long ago. my guess is they also wanted to PAC12 from also getting a cut of the share. as for houston the B12 is a better fit and the PAC12 is also close to getting poached soon so i dont see a need to move.

Houston was chosen over Memphis because of Texas politics. End of story. Happens with the Texas schools every time. Wouldn’t be surprised if it also results in an smu invite

Tillman Fertitta isnt a politician or part of texas poltics,.... point to any credible source that says it was politics???
there are sources that say it had nothing to do with politics

sour grapes from memphis fans ...

https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/stat...94536?s=20

Do you consider the Houston chronicle legit ?

(09-11-2021 09:44 PM)Fluke Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:10 AM)Agust Wrote:  one of the reasons houston was chosen over memphis was because of the market.
they didn't want to lose more of the state to the SEC and thought that houston being in the B12 would be able to take that share.

this allowed them to clear the hurdle of too many texas teams and them not wanting to elevate houston. it was printed off an article not to long ago. my guess is they also wanted to PAC12 from also getting a cut of the share. as for houston the B12 is a better fit and the PAC12 is also close to getting poached soon so i dont see a need to move.

Houston was chosen over Memphis because of Texas politics. End of story. Happens with the Texas schools every time. Wouldn’t be surprised if it also results in an smu invite. If TCU wasn’t already there I would say it would be 100%. Probably the only thing that keeps them out.

Houston was chosen because it has invested 300 million dollars in new sporting infrastructure. Houston President is highly respected ( she 's on the board of Governors of the NCAA) among her peers for the work she has done at the University. Houston in the 8th largest tv market in the country. Texas politics kept Houston out of the B12. And for time it seem it might play a part in keeping us out again, based on the fears of the other Texas B12 schools about Houston being in one of the top HS talent areas in the country recruiting wise, they saw what happened in the old SWC when Houston came in and dominated the conference in the first 3 of 4 in conference play. They don't want a replay of that scenario again. Also behind the scenes ESPN and the consultant they brought in Oliver Luck I'm sure had something to do with Houston being invited to the B12, probably talked dollar sense to them, in making their decision to invite Houston. Probability of the PAC possibly inviting Houston and TCU to the PAC had something to do with Houston being invited, which would have destabilized the conference further I believe a lot of variables played their part in Houston being invited.

(09-11-2021 10:17 PM)Fluke Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:44 PM)Fluke Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:10 AM)Agust Wrote:  one of the reasons houston was chosen over memphis was because of the market.
they didn't want to lose more of the state to the SEC and thought that houston being in the B12 would be able to take that share.

this allowed them to clear the hurdle of too many texas teams and them not wanting to elevate houston. it was printed off an article not to long ago. my guess is they also wanted to PAC12 from also getting a cut of the share. as for houston the B12 is a better fit and the PAC12 is also close to getting poached soon so i dont see a need to move.

Houston was chosen over Memphis because of Texas politics. End of story. Happens with the Texas schools every time. Wouldn’t be surprised if it also results in an smu invite

Tillman Fertitta isnt a politician or part of texas poltics,.... point to any credible source that says it was politics???
there are sources that say it had nothing to do with politics

sour grapes from memphis fans ...

https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/stat...94536?s=20

Do you consider the Houston chronicle legit ?

did you actually read the article? or just want to bitter off headlines...

the article is referring to tillman as the political power... the article is sensationalized...

the summary of that article is: houston didnt feel confident about its invite and then called political power tillman feritita to help, where tilman pitched and secured our bid

tillman isnt an outside source and is the chariman of the board at UH, complaining about tillman involvement in UH, is like complaining about fedex with memphis...

(09-11-2021 10:46 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 10:17 PM)Fluke Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:44 PM)Fluke Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:10 AM)Agust Wrote:  one of the reasons houston was chosen over memphis was because of the market.
they didn't want to lose more of the state to the SEC and thought that houston being in the B12 would be able to take that share.

this allowed them to clear the hurdle of too many texas teams and them not wanting to elevate houston. it was printed off an article not to long ago. my guess is they also wanted to PAC12 from also getting a cut of the share. as for houston the B12 is a better fit and the PAC12 is also close to getting poached soon so i dont see a need to move.

Houston was chosen over Memphis because of Texas politics. End of story. Happens with the Texas schools every time. Wouldn’t be surprised if it also results in an smu invite

Tillman Fertitta isnt a politician or part of texas poltics,.... point to any credible source that says it was politics???
there are sources that say it had nothing to do with politics

sour grapes from memphis fans ...

https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/stat...94536?s=20

Do you consider the Houston chronicle legit ?

did you actually read the article? or just want to bitter off headlines...

the article is referring to tillman as the political power... the article is sensationalized...

the summary of that article is: houston didnt feel confident about its invite and then called political power tillman feritita to help, where tilman pitched and secured our bid

tillman isnt an outside source and is the chariman of the board at UH, complaining about tillman involvement in UH, is like complaining about fedex with memphis...

I’m not complaining at all. It is what it is. Texas politics has and always will play a factor. In keeping other Texas teams out and in this case getting them in.

(09-11-2021 10:48 PM)Fluke Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 10:46 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 10:17 PM)Fluke Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:44 PM)Fluke Wrote:  Houston was chosen over Memphis because of Texas politics. End of story. Happens with the Texas schools every time. Wouldn’t be surprised if it also results in an smu invite

Tillman Fertitta isnt a politician or part of texas poltics,.... point to any credible source that says it was politics???
there are sources that say it had nothing to do with politics

sour grapes from memphis fans ...

https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/stat...94536?s=20

Do you consider the Houston chronicle legit ?

did you actually read the article? or just want to bitter off headlines...

the article is referring to tillman as the political power... the article is sensationalized...

the summary of that article is: houston didnt feel confident about its invite and then called political power tillman feritita to help, where tilman pitched and secured our bid

tillman isnt an outside source and is the chariman of the board at UH, complaining about tillman involvement in UH, is like complaining about fedex with memphis...

I’m not complaining at all. It is what it is. Texas politics has and always will play a factor. In keeping other Texas teams out and in this case getting them in.

outside of an article referring to Tillman as a political power..even though he isn't in politics.. there are no other sources linking the decision to politics..
and numerous other sources saying it had nothing to do wit politics

the article flat says it was between adding houston or just taking 3....it wasnt between Houston and Memphis
you'd believe the political part because it fits the narrative but ignore the very same article as not credible about the part that says memphis was never in the picture

(09-11-2021 10:41 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:44 PM)Fluke Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:10 AM)Agust Wrote:  one of the reasons houston was chosen over memphis was because of the market.
they didn't want to lose more of the state to the SEC and thought that houston being in the B12 would be able to take that share.

this allowed them to clear the hurdle of too many texas teams and them not wanting to elevate houston. it was printed off an article not to long ago. my guess is they also wanted to PAC12 from also getting a cut of the share. as for houston the B12 is a better fit and the PAC12 is also close to getting poached soon so i dont see a need to move.

Houston was chosen over Memphis because of Texas politics. End of story. Happens with the Texas schools every time. Wouldn’t be surprised if it also results in an smu invite. If TCU wasn’t already there I would say it would be 100%. Probably the only thing that keeps them out.

Houston was chosen because it has invested 300 million dollars in new sporting infrastructure. Houston President is highly respected ( she 's on the board of Governors of the NCAA) among her peers for the work she has done at the University. Houston in the 8th largest tv market in the country. Texas politics kept Houston out of the B12. And for time it seem it might play a part in keeping us out again, based on the fears of the other Texas B12 schools about Houston being in one of the top HS talent areas in the country recruiting wise, they saw what happened in the old SWC when Houston came in and dominated the conference in the first 3 of 4 in conference play. They don't want a replay of that scenario again. Also behind the scenes ESPN and the consultant they brought in Oliver Luck I'm sure had something to do with Houston being invited to the B12, probably talked dollar sense to them, in making their decision to invite Houston. Probability of the PAC possibly inviting Houston and TCU to the PAC had something to do with Houston being invited, which would have destabilized the conference further I believe a lot of variables played their part in Houston being invited.

Comparing Houston metrics to Memphis results in Houston being behind on almost every list. I’m glad you got in. You guys have potential and I like Houston. You have the TV market on us but you don’t have the engagement even with that market. The actual eyeballs on TVs show that.

(09-11-2021 10:57 PM)Fluke Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 10:41 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:44 PM)Fluke Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:10 AM)Agust Wrote:  one of the reasons houston was chosen over memphis was because of the market.
they didn't want to lose more of the state to the SEC and thought that houston being in the B12 would be able to take that share.

this allowed them to clear the hurdle of too many texas teams and them not wanting to elevate houston. it was printed off an article not to long ago. my guess is they also wanted to PAC12 from also getting a cut of the share. as for houston the B12 is a better fit and the PAC12 is also close to getting poached soon so i dont see a need to move.

Houston was chosen over Memphis because of Texas politics. End of story. Happens with the Texas schools every time. Wouldn’t be surprised if it also results in an smu invite. If TCU wasn’t already there I would say it would be 100%. Probably the only thing that keeps them out.

Houston was chosen because it has invested 300 million dollars in new sporting infrastructure. Houston President is highly respected ( she 's on the board of Governors of the NCAA) among her peers for the work she has done at the University. Houston in the 8th largest tv market in the country. Texas politics kept Houston out of the B12. And for time it seem it might play a part in keeping us out again, based on the fears of the other Texas B12 schools about Houston being in one of the top HS talent areas in the country recruiting wise, they saw what happened in the old SWC when Houston came in and dominated the conference in the first 3 of 4 in conference play. They don't want a replay of that scenario again. Also behind the scenes ESPN and the consultant they brought in Oliver Luck I'm sure had something to do with Houston being invited to the B12, probably talked dollar sense to them, in making their decision to invite Houston. Probability of the PAC possibly inviting Houston and TCU to the PAC had something to do with Houston being invited, which would have destabilized the conference further I believe a lot of variables played their part in Houston being invited.

Comparing Houston metrics to Memphis results in Houston being behind on almost every list. I’m glad you got in. You guys have potential and I like Houston. You have the TV market on us but you don’t have the engagement even with that market. The actual eyeballs on TVs show that.

thats not true.. the top rated football and basketball games n the aac belong to houston (not counting army/navy game)

when Houston wins Houston is the biggest tv draw in this conference ..
you can make a case that Memphis is a bigger draw when both teams are just average ...but that isnt your point, an actual analysis of engagement in the market based on tv viewership would actually favor Houston by a lot if we look at our entire aac average ...

note the basketball likely changes after this season tho

Memphis cry babies. Truth is UH worth more then Memphis. END OF STORY

(09-11-2021 11:06 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 10:57 PM)Fluke Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 10:41 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:44 PM)Fluke Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 09:10 AM)Agust Wrote:  one of the reasons houston was chosen over memphis was because of the market.
they didn't want to lose more of the state to the SEC and thought that houston being in the B12 would be able to take that share.

this allowed them to clear the hurdle of too many texas teams and them not wanting to elevate houston. it was printed off an article not to long ago. my guess is they also wanted to PAC12 from also getting a cut of the share. as for houston the B12 is a better fit and the PAC12 is also close to getting poached soon so i dont see a need to move.

Houston was chosen over Memphis because of Texas politics. End of story. Happens with the Texas schools every time. Wouldn’t be surprised if it also results in an smu invite. If TCU wasn’t already there I would say it would be 100%. Probably the only thing that keeps them out.

Houston was chosen because it has invested 300 million dollars in new sporting infrastructure. Houston President is highly respected ( she 's on the board of Governors of the NCAA) among her peers for the work she has done at the University. Houston in the 8th largest tv market in the country. Texas politics kept Houston out of the B12. And for time it seem it might play a part in keeping us out again, based on the fears of the other Texas B12 schools about Houston being in one of the top HS talent areas in the country recruiting wise, they saw what happened in the old SWC when Houston came in and dominated the conference in the first 3 of 4 in conference play. They don't want a replay of that scenario again. Also behind the scenes ESPN and the consultant they brought in Oliver Luck I'm sure had something to do with Houston being invited to the B12, probably talked dollar sense to them, in making their decision to invite Houston. Probability of the PAC possibly inviting Houston and TCU to the PAC had something to do with Houston being invited, which would have destabilized the conference further I believe a lot of variables played their part in Houston being invited.

Comparing Houston metrics to Memphis results in Houston being behind on almost every list. I’m glad you got in. You guys have potential and I like Houston. You have the TV market on us but you don’t have the engagement even with that market. The actual eyeballs on TVs show that.

thats not true.. the top rated football and basketball games n the aac belong to houston (not counting army/navy game)

when Houston wins Houston is the biggest tv draw in this conference ..
you can make a case that Memphis is a bigger draw when both teams are just average ...but that isnt your point, an actual analysis of engagement in the market based on tv viewership would actually favor Houston by a lot if we look at our entire aac average ...

From 2017 to 2020 Memphis football averaged 1.53 million while Houston averaged 1.13 million. Now Houston has been down and they have potential to increase that. But I’m not wrong. Now I don’t know what it is if we go back for 5-7 years I didn’t find those numbers. I would bet Memphis is still on top

Memphis was added after UH to the Big East. UH was group A where as Memphis was not. And now UH gets in B12 before memphis. UH>Memphis. This isnt anything new.