It worked out...but NCSt should have gone for it on the 4th and 2 early

(09-02-2021 07:28 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  It worked out...but NCSt should have gone for it on the 4th and 2 early

Doeren is fundamentally a conservative coach and early on the offense did not look good. Leary's hometown is in New Jersey near Camden and that might have had him distracted.

Great win by Virginia Tech. North Carolina looked lethargic and had a size disadvantage.

As for Duke I think it's time to end the Cutcliffe era. Duke did virtually nothing to acquit themselves. Meanwhile the living turnover factory Chase Brice is now at Appalachian State and he sliced and diced ECU without turnover. That was about as bad of a weekend as I could imagine for David Cutcliffe.

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VT & NC St looked good. It’s good to have football back!


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(09-03-2021 10:12 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Great win by Virginia Tech. North Carolina looked lethargic and had a size disadvantage.

As for Duke I think it's time to end the Cutcliffe era. Duke did virtually nothing to acquit themselves. Meanwhile the living turnover factory Chase Brice is now at Appalachian State and he sliced and diced ECU without turnover. That was about as bad of a weekend as I could imagine for David Cutcliffe.

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Last year when we went to Blacksburg we did not have our starting QB, but VT's size and speed took until midway through the 2nd quarter for us to adjust. Carolina did not seem to adjust until midway through the 3rd.

The elevation in Blacksburg is 2100'. The elevation in Chapel Hill is only 470'. I don't know if that makes a difference at first. Compared to sea level there is 4% less O2 at 2100 feet. Did UNC fail to come up early and adjust?

(09-03-2021 11:32 PM)Statefan Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 10:12 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Great win by Virginia Tech. North Carolina looked lethargic and had a size disadvantage.

As for Duke I think it's time to end the Cutcliffe era. Duke did virtually nothing to acquit themselves. Meanwhile the living turnover factory Chase Brice is now at Appalachian State and he sliced and diced ECU without turnover. That was about as bad of a weekend as I could imagine for David Cutcliffe.

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Last year when we went to Blacksburg we did not have our starting QB, but VT's size and speed took until midway through the 2nd quarter for us to adjust. Carolina did not seem to adjust until midway through the 3rd.

The elevation in Blacksburg is 2100'. The elevation in Chapel Hill is only 470'. I don't know if that makes a difference at first. Compared to sea level there is 4% less O2 at 2100 feet. Did UNC fail to come up early and adjust?

When I was a freshman at VT I noticed 2 things about the altitude:
1. You get winded faster at first, though you eventually get used to it.
2. Punts and passes fly a little further.

I thought I read somewhere or maybe saw some video online where Dabo said this years oline will be the best Clemson has ever had. Allowing 7 sacks in one game is Syracuse level of bad the last couple of years. As bad as Clemson played I cant believe that they still had a chance to tie the game late in the 4th.

(09-04-2021 10:11 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  I thought I read somewhere or maybe saw some video online where Dabo said this years oline will be the best Clemson has ever had. Allowing 7 sacks in one game is Syracuse level of bad the last couple of years. As bad as Clemson played I cant believe that they still had a chance to tie the game late in the 4th.

It was a brutal defensive struggle.

In fairness to Clemson, the Georgia DL is very strong. That Jordan Davis is about the size of a large SUV, I wish he was playing for my NFL team right now.

They won't face anything like that again, unless they make the playoffs.

Random thoughts in no particular order:

NIU wanted it more. NIU outcoached GT's coordinators all game long in all three phases. Both teams set back the art of offensive passing 30+ years. Anything further than 15 yards down field for NIU was a high wobbling duck that made coaches visibly pucker on the NIU sideline. Jeff Sims couldn't throw it in the ocean before he was injured. Backup Jordan Yates looked like a star just being able to hit a 10 yard crossing route reliably by comparison.

For the first time since Chan Gailey got boo'ed on the jumbotron doing a drunk driving PSA, I felt the fanbase move markedly away from the staff in a negative fashion. When GT was going to kick a FG on 4th and goal at the 2 the boos were *LOUD*. That was among the loudest fan reactions all night. And they caved, called a timeout, and sent the offense back on the field. I don't think I've ever seen the fans bully a staff into changing their minds before. But there you have it.

Let's see ... catching a TD out of bounds on 4th down ... there goes 7 points.
Missed easy FG ... 10 points.
Missed moderate FG ... 13 points.
Missed desperation but still plausible FG ... 16 points.

Collins now has 2 FCS loses at Temple, 1 FCS loss at GT, and ... let's just call a spade a spade here ... NIU hadn't won a game since November 2019. That's a near FCS loss. That's at best one of the 5 worst loses in living memory. At worst it's a straight up worst 5 loss all time in program history. Collins might be able to recruit ... but he and/or his coordinators can't hack it at the big boy level on game day. That's a thudding near-worst-all-time loss in 4 of Collins' 5 years coaching. I think we can rule out bad luck or overhauling the entire roster at GT as being outliers. Ugly stinky early season losses seem to be a hallmark of Geoff Collins' teams.

If GT loses to Kennesaw State next week, which is now a very real possibility, it should be an instant pink slip for one or both coordinators. That game was an abomination on play calling. Just off the top of my head:
- You'd think somebody would try a screen pass when being faced with a loaded box run blitz most downs. None was ever attempted that I can recall.
- The GT defense looked like they'd never seen a hurry-up out of huddle before. Even after seeing it for 3 quarters they still looked like they'd never seen it before.
- The GT defense got beat by effectively two plays all night: two stacked TE overload off tackle .... and shallow crossing routes / posts out of the slot. GT was defending the slot receiver in a way I have literally never seen done before. The slot was usually unguarded at the line and the responsibility of the free safety. I literally have no plausible explanation for that defense. You shouldn't need to review a lot of tape to scout the GT defense's shortcomings.

Some consistent storylines (talking points?) from the offseason were completely blown up:
- Return to sender on the TN transfer at kicker. Don't want to see another kick all year. Not only did he *ss plant himself on one, but they were *ALL* low. Good teams with good DLs will block that trash all day. Teach the Irish kid to kick a FG ... he had plenty of Lucky Charms in his punting leg.
- The offense line has made no progress beyond less penalties. #70 in white got has *ss handed to him all game by NIU. I counted at least 3 times he whiffed his defender entirely letting him go clean untouched and at least another three were he was introduced rudely to the turf.
- The defense line has made no apparent progress. Remember hearing Dominick or Clayton or Chimedza being called? Me neither. I don't recall a single sack. And scarcely any real QB pressure.
- GT WRs still have a nasty case of the drops. All of 'em. No really, every last single one of them. I can easily recall four dropped first downs.


If I'm an NIU fan I'd like a word with my offensive coordinator. You were running the ball all night. You had the ball down 7 with 7:30 left in the game. And you air raid and then do a slow edge rush to try to win the game?!? They didn't even hurry huddle that series, which felt like a gimme to get 4/5 yards on a run whenever they wanted. It felt like NIU giving the game away. They learned the lesson on the next drive though and kept it on the ground between the tackles mostly and returned to the hurry huddle.


Sean Bedford should take over the radio pre/post game. He pulls no punches and calls it like it is. As you'd expect from a Paul Johnson player. Hey, speaking of Paul Johnson .... we've tried can coach his ass off and not recruit and now we seem to be trying can recruit his ass off and not coach. Maybe a happy medium wouldn't be out of the question someday? Hmmm?


With this schedule, stick a fork in this season. 3 wins might again be the ceiling. Coordinator changes *must* happen if that is the outcome. Looks like another season of watching other teams and ESPN Goal Line predominately for me.

So far The ACC is looking very average this year, even before a Satterfield led Louisville faces Ole Miss. Maybe UNC’s performance and Mack’s tired look will inspire Steve this season and we’ll be able to ship him back to North Carolina at seasons end. (I can only hope)

I hope we can but I doubt Louisville is able to pickup a win for The ACC against The SEC even facing one of their traditional lightweights.

(09-05-2021 04:35 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  So far The ACC is looking very average this year, even before a Satterfield led Louisville faces Ole Miss. Maybe UNC’s performance and Mack’s tired look will inspire Steve this season and we’ll be able to ship him back to North Carolina at seasons end. (I can only hope)

I hope we can but I doubt Louisville is able to pickup a win for The ACC against The SEC even facing one of their traditional lightweights.

But, Kippen is out with Covid. We might have a chance

(09-05-2021 07:04 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(09-05-2021 04:35 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  So far The ACC is looking very average this year, even before a Satterfield led Louisville faces Ole Miss. Maybe UNC’s performance and Mack’s tired look will inspire Steve this season and we’ll be able to ship him back to North Carolina at seasons end. (I can only hope)

I hope we can but I doubt Louisville is able to pickup a win for The ACC against The SEC even facing one of their traditional lightweights.

But, Kippen is out with Covid. We might have a chance

I sure hope so Brother.

I just don’t get a good feeling about the state of our football program. I’m usually reasonably optimistic, and I’ll be in my seats in Section 226 Row V for every game as I always am, but I just don’t see Satterfield getting it done.

I hope I’m wrong.

(09-05-2021 01:59 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(09-05-2021 07:04 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(09-05-2021 04:35 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  So far The ACC is looking very average this year, even before a Satterfield led Louisville faces Ole Miss. Maybe UNC’s performance and Mack’s tired look will inspire Steve this season and we’ll be able to ship him back to North Carolina at seasons end. (I can only hope)

I hope we can but I doubt Louisville is able to pickup a win for The ACC against The SEC even facing one of their traditional lightweights.

But, Kippen is out with Covid. We might have a chance

I sure hope so Brother.

I just don’t get a good feeling about the state of our football program. I’m usually reasonably optimistic, and I’ll be in my seats in Section 226 Row V for every game as I always am, but I just don’t see Satterfield getting it done.

I hope I’m wrong.

We are just talking about Ole Miss. You do realize that their name has been shortened? It was Ole Hit or Miss. They are like Gump's box of chocalates, "You never know what you're gonna get!"

Clemson should not lose a game the rest of the year, but Uiagalelei is not a Clemson QB in the traditional sense of a Clemson QB which to me is a guy who will hit you.

He was hesitant last year against BC but that was BC. Watch him run for 200 and throw for 500 against State, but even though the line let him down at times, he never looked at ease. I realize Ga has something to do with that.

(09-05-2021 02:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-05-2021 01:59 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(09-05-2021 07:04 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(09-05-2021 04:35 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  So far The ACC is looking very average this year, even before a Satterfield led Louisville faces Ole Miss. Maybe UNC’s performance and Mack’s tired look will inspire Steve this season and we’ll be able to ship him back to North Carolina at seasons end. (I can only hope)

I hope we can but I doubt Louisville is able to pickup a win for The ACC against The SEC even facing one of their traditional lightweights.

But, Kippen is out with Covid. We might have a chance

I sure hope so Brother.

I just don’t get a good feeling about the state of our football program. I’m usually reasonably optimistic, and I’ll be in my seats in Section 226 Row V for every game as I always am, but I just don’t see Satterfield getting it done.

I hope I’m wrong.

We are just talking about Ole Miss. You do realize that their name has been shortened? It was Ole Hit or Miss. They are like Gump's box of chocalates, "You never know what you're gonna get!"

Well since we got Forrest Forrest Gump leading our football team I’m just hoping their offense is stale.

Credit Notre Dame for executing the TD pass on 4th & 1.

Here are FSU's first 8 offensive plays (not including penalties):
-5, 0, 0, 0, 4, -8, 0, 89 (TD)

Tied at 7

Noles just scored again.
This one looked like it was planned.

ND 7, FSU 14

BTW, Williams (23) for Notre Dame looks really good. I know they like their passing attack, but the Irish probably should give him the ball more often...