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(08-05-2021 04:12 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  I don't think this is the one Bostick, Cruz and Doyle were tweeting about yesterday, but we just landed a LHP from Hawaii for the class of '22...

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...can't find much info on him, but in the few games mentioned he average 2 Ks per IP.

Ostensibly the #1 LHP out of Hawaii for the Class of '22: https://twitter.com/Texas_PG/status/1416...49953?s=20
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(08-05-2021 04:28 PM)Swede Owl Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 04:12 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  I don't think this is the one Bostick, Cruz and Doyle were tweeting about yesterday, but we just landed a LHP from Hawaii for the class of '22...

Quote:kaena kiakona
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Super excited to announce my commitment to Rice University! Let’s get to work.

...can't find much info on him, but in the few games mentioned he average 2 Ks per IP.

Ostensibly the #1 LHP out of Hawaii for the Class of '22: https://twitter.com/Texas_PG/status/1416...49953?s=20

Here's what he told Mark Berman...
https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/stat...0909770755
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Well, crap. Lost a recruit. Tanner Chelette decommitted. https://twitter.com/tchelette17/status/1...89954?s=21
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(08-12-2021 02:11 PM)Swede Owl Wrote:  Well, crap. Lost a recruit. Tanner Chelette decommitted. https://twitter.com/tchelette17/status/1...89954?s=21

Happens to the best of them. LSU just lost a 2022 commit who was considered one of the best position player prospects in Texas. (And before you ask, I've heard he doesn't have the grades for Rice. He's looking SEC.)
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Still having trouble figuring out why there are so many really early commits these days. I guess it's competitive and all but how do you project a freshman, soph or possibly even a rising Junior to what he'll be 2 or 3 years later. Also, they can't even sign until senior year. I'm sure there are valid arguments on both sides but why would a kid commit or a school offer before puberty. Just my thoughts and I have no knowledge of when this last decommit committed so not applying these comments to him.
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(08-13-2021 09:36 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  Still having trouble figuring out why there are so many really early commits these days. I guess it's competitive and all but how do you project a freshman, soph or possibly even a rising Junior to what he'll be 2 or 3 years later. Also, they can't even sign until senior year. I'm sure there are valid arguments on both sides but why would a kid commit or a school offer before puberty. Just my thoughts and I have no knowledge of when this last decommit committed so not applying these comments to him.

There's a direct relationship between the increase in the number of very early commitments, on the one hand, and the skyrocketing number of transfers, on the other. A 16 or 17 year old is not going to look at things the way a 19 or 20 year old would.
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(08-13-2021 10:52 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  
(08-13-2021 09:36 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  Still having trouble figuring out why there are so many really early commits these days. I guess it's competitive and all but how do you project a freshman, soph or possibly even a rising Junior to what he'll be 2 or 3 years later. Also, they can't even sign until senior year. I'm sure there are valid arguments on both sides but why would a kid commit or a school offer before puberty. Just my thoughts and I have no knowledge of when this last decommit committed so not applying these comments to him.

There's a direct relationship between the increase in the number of very early commitments, on the one hand, and the skyrocketing number of transfers, on the other. A 16 or 17 year old is not going to look at things the way a 19 or 20 year old would.

Good point. I had not thought of that correlation but you are absolutely correct.
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(08-13-2021 01:01 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  
(08-13-2021 10:52 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  
(08-13-2021 09:36 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  Still having trouble figuring out why there are so many really early commits these days. I guess it's competitive and all but how do you project a freshman, soph or possibly even a rising Junior to what he'll be 2 or 3 years later. Also, they can't even sign until senior year. I'm sure there are valid arguments on both sides but why would a kid commit or a school offer before puberty. Just my thoughts and I have no knowledge of when this last decommit committed so not applying these comments to him.

There's a direct relationship between the increase in the number of very early commitments, on the one hand, and the skyrocketing number of transfers, on the other. A 16 or 17 year old is not going to look at things the way a 19 or 20 year old would.

Good point. I had not thought of that correlation but you are absolutely correct.

The elite P5 programs are now signing up players at 14 years of age. I just saw an A&M commit from the high school graduating class of 2025. That's just plain ridiculous.
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(08-13-2021 04:01 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-13-2021 01:01 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  
(08-13-2021 10:52 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  
(08-13-2021 09:36 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  Still having trouble figuring out why there are so many really early commits these days. I guess it's competitive and all but how do you project a freshman, soph or possibly even a rising Junior to what he'll be 2 or 3 years later. Also, they can't even sign until senior year. I'm sure there are valid arguments on both sides but why would a kid commit or a school offer before puberty. Just my thoughts and I have no knowledge of when this last decommit committed so not applying these comments to him.

There's a direct relationship between the increase in the number of very early commitments, on the one hand, and the skyrocketing number of transfers, on the other. A 16 or 17 year old is not going to look at things the way a 19 or 20 year old would.

Good point. I had not thought of that correlation but you are absolutely correct.

The elite P5 programs are now signing up players at 14 years of age. I just saw an A&M commit from the high school graduating class of 2025. That's just plain ridiculous.

AGREE!!! Idiotic and I blame the parents (and coaches) for even allowing this to happen. Ignorance is fixable, stupidity is not. I think this leans towards the latter.
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There was a comment in another thread about losing a recruit because someone else offered 8 months ago, while we offered two.

I think it pretty normal (in this day anyway) for parents of elite athletes to seek accolades for their kids... including college scholarship offers. ESPECIALLY if they've been paying out thousands per year for travel ball etc.

I think they know that such things are meaningless, but they like them... so schools give them to them.
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(08-16-2021 08:19 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  There was a comment in another thread about losing a recruit because someone else offered 8 months ago, while we offered two.

I think it pretty normal (in this day anyway) for parents of elite athletes to seek accolades for their kids... including college scholarship offers. ESPECIALLY if they've been paying out thousands per year for travel ball etc.

I think they know that such things are meaningless, but they like them... so schools give them to them.

Agree until reality sinks in and the scholly offer is pulled due to an incoming transfer or Juco takes that spot. Which would you rather have as a coach, a kid who at least has stats against better than HS competition or a kid who you "project" to have similar stats. Not saying I agree with this as I believe the really good programs build from the High schools and not the transfer portal or Juco's. However I do feel, there are times, like Rice is in now, where the cupboard is bare and transfers will get you players for spots that are lacking. But ultimately I would like to see it where transfers (Juco and others) are the exception vs. the standard.
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For whatever reason, Cooper Chandler's twitter profile still reads "Pepperdine Baseball". Did the transfer paperwork not go through? He was the lone pitching transfer since Cheito took over, and the most proven at the D1 level of all our Summer transfers.

BTW, given today is the first day of classes, one would hope that the 2022 roster updated soon to include all incoming transfers and Freshmen.
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(08-23-2021 09:44 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  For whatever reason, Cooper Chandler's twitter profile still reads "Pepperdine Baseball". Did the transfer paperwork not go through? He was the lone pitching transfer since Cheito took over, and the most proven at the D1 level of all our Summer transfers.

BTW, given today is the first day of classes, one would hope that the 2022 roster updated soon to include all incoming transfers and Freshmen.

Doesn't look like he's tweeted since 2020 (he retweeted one thing in July) so I wouldn't read to much into it.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see someone get a commitment from that 12 year old left handed pitcher from South Dakota at the Little League World Series shortly. Honestly, that kid has better stuff at 12 than a lot of college lefties I've seen through the years. Gavin Weir throws in the low 70's (which relates to 90's from a pro mound), and has allowed just one hit in his last eight games (while striking out about 75 percent of the batters he faces).

I guess he might be Class of 2027 01-ncaabbs?
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https://riceowls.com/sports/baseball/roster

Baseball roster is updated. I'm not sure if there is anyone else we didn't know about but the one new name I see in there is Pierce Gallo, an infielder transfer from Clemson.
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(08-26-2021 06:36 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  https://riceowls.com/sports/baseball/roster

Baseball roster is updated. I'm not sure if there is anyone else we didn't know about but the one new name I see in there is Pierce Gallo, an infielder transfer from Clemson.

No, we knew about Gallo. He was one of the five transfers that came aboard after Cheito was hired (along with Chandler, Reidel, Vincent and Woodcox). The JUCO POY transfer, LHP Burbank, committed when Bragga was still here (and he's the brother of current Rice player). The new name for me is Ben Rosengard from University of Chicago.

However, the really big news-- and very good news-- is that Roel Garcia, DeLeon and Greenwood are all coming back as grad students. I'm sure the opportunity to work with Bostick had an influence in their decision. If Roel is finally healthy and working with Colter, he could finally be back to his pre-TJS form. Fingers crossed. A starting rotation of Burbank, Chandler, Garcia/Deskin, Brogdon has real potential to be well above average. Hopefully, Wood can regain his Freshman year form, and at least a couple of the true Freshman and last year's quartet of Freshmen can step up and provide positive contributions.

If my memory serves me, I believe C Garza, P Matthews and inf West are our most highly regarded incoming Freshmen. I see both Cienfuegos and Garibay are now listed only as position players. We've got a ton of infielders!
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I see Janac wound up at San Jac. That’s a blow. He had (has) a lot of potential.
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(08-27-2021 03:09 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote:  I see Janac wound up at San Jac. That’s a blow. He had (has) a lot of potential.

He did, but so too do Linskey, Davis and Gallant. Just a rumor, but as was the case with several other past transfers, I heard this was due to the academic burden.
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We just landed a big one-- both Bostick and Cheito just tweeted their recruit commitment meme...

https://twitter.com/colter_bostick/statu...6433462276

No idea yet who it is. I did hear that a stud who just recently decommitted from an elite program had placed a call into Bostick and Cruz.
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Tobias Motley (Cy Ranch, class of 2023) said he's committed to Rice. He's a 6-1, 175 middle infielder.
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