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The extension makes it where the next President will pick the next AD but should have done 2 year extension instead of 3.

(08-31-2021 11:17 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  I am sure Lebroon didnt care since he is leaving next year.
(08-31-2021 10:06 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  
(08-31-2021 09:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
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Rice Director of Athletics (@RiceAthletics) Joe Karlgaard (@jkarlgaard) signed a 3-year extension that runs to June/2024: “It’s certainly gratifying..It means quite abit” Rice President David Leebron:“Joe is the right leader for Rice athletics,especially in these dynamic times”

Here's the link with JK's comments....

https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/stat...9158211592

Lol “dynamic times” for others but same old static for us.
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(08-31-2021 09:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
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Rice Director of Athletics (@RiceAthletics) Joe Karlgaard (@jkarlgaard) signed a 3-year extension that runs to June/2024: “It’s certainly gratifying..It means quite abit” Rice President David Leebron:“Joe is the right leader for Rice athletics,especially in these dynamic times”

Here's the link with JK's comments....

https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/stat...9158211592
I'm confused by the wording. A three year extension to June, 2024, implies to me his old contract ended in June, 2021.
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(08-31-2021 10:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-31-2021 10:16 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Confirms that my dollars are better donated to cancer research and my high school.
Don’t let the door hit ya, Leebs.

Same here.

I really can't imagine a situation where I could have become more disenchanted with an organization faster than I have with Rice.

Ditto.
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Awful decision. We reward a guy who destroyed football, basketball, and baseball? Absolutely pathetic display by Rice. Not to mention, two months ago, Karlgaard was interviewing for other AD positions. I question his real commitment to Rice. He must not really want to be here if he has interviewed for other jobs. Why would Rice reward that? He's inept and looking to leave as soon as possible. No one else wants him!

I hope Rice sees bigtime improvement coming in our three biggest sports that I can't see at the moment.
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(09-01-2021 07:21 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(08-31-2021 09:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
Quote:Mark Berman
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Rice Director of Athletics (@RiceAthletics) Joe Karlgaard (@jkarlgaard) signed a 3-year extension that runs to June/2024: “It’s certainly gratifying..It means quite abit” Rice President David Leebron:“Joe is the right leader for Rice athletics,especially in these dynamic times”

Here's the link with JK's comments....

https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/stat...9158211592
I'm confused by the wording. A three year extension to June, 2024, implies to me his old contract ended in June, 2021.

It did. June 30, 2021
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(09-01-2021 08:45 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  
(09-01-2021 07:21 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(08-31-2021 09:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
Quote:Mark Berman
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24m
Rice Director of Athletics (@RiceAthletics) Joe Karlgaard (@jkarlgaard) signed a 3-year extension that runs to June/2024: “It’s certainly gratifying..It means quite abit” Rice President David Leebron:“Joe is the right leader for Rice athletics,especially in these dynamic times”

Here's the link with JK's comments....

https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/stat...9158211592
I'm confused by the wording. A three year extension to June, 2024, implies to me his old contract ended in June, 2021.

It did. June 30, 2021
Seems odd to announce this two months later. Or maybe I've just never noticed it before.
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(09-01-2021 10:06 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(09-01-2021 08:45 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  
(09-01-2021 07:21 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(08-31-2021 09:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
Quote:Mark Berman
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24m
Rice Director of Athletics (@RiceAthletics) Joe Karlgaard (@jkarlgaard) signed a 3-year extension that runs to June/2024: “It’s certainly gratifying..It means quite abit” Rice President David Leebron:“Joe is the right leader for Rice athletics,especially in these dynamic times”

Here's the link with JK's comments....

https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/stat...9158211592
I'm confused by the wording. A three year extension to June, 2024, implies to me his old contract ended in June, 2021.

It did. June 30, 2021
Seems odd to announce this two months later. Or maybe I've just never noticed it before.

It was never formally announced. The only notification of it was Mark Berman's tweet last evening, with his interview of JK.
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(09-01-2021 10:21 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(09-01-2021 10:06 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(09-01-2021 08:45 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  
(09-01-2021 07:21 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(08-31-2021 09:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Here's the link with JK's comments....

https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/stat...9158211592
I'm confused by the wording. A three year extension to June, 2024, implies to me his old contract ended in June, 2021.

It did. June 30, 2021
Seems odd to announce this two months later. Or maybe I've just never noticed it before.

It was never formally announced. The only notification of it was Mark Berman's tweet last evening, with his interview of JK.

They probably wanted to keep it quiet.
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Hopefully he gets hired away sooner rather than later.
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(09-01-2021 12:20 PM)BSWBRice Wrote:  Hopefully he gets hired away sooner rather than later.

Who is going to hire him?
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(09-01-2021 12:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(09-01-2021 12:20 PM)BSWBRice Wrote:  Hopefully he gets hired away sooner rather than later.

Who is going to hire him?

Texas Woman's University? Bonus: Their mascot is basically a maroon Sammy.
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(09-01-2021 12:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(09-01-2021 12:20 PM)BSWBRice Wrote:  Hopefully he gets hired away sooner rather than later.

Who is going to hire him?

Texas Woman's University? Bonus: Their mascot is basically a maroon Sammy.

The YMCA?
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(09-01-2021 12:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(09-01-2021 12:20 PM)BSWBRice Wrote:  Hopefully he gets hired away sooner rather than later.

Who is going to hire him?

lol there's gotta be some sucker out there...
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Fact: overall, our women's sports, as a group, must be among the top 25 in the nation.
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(09-01-2021 01:25 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  Fact: overall, our women's sports, as a group, must be among the top 25 in the nation.

Easily, though I suspect that will take a bit of a hit this year with the drop-off with Women's basketball. However, I expect women's tennis to be stronger this year with the highly ranked new recruits.
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(08-31-2021 11:17 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  I am sure Lebroon didnt care since he is leaving next year.
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Quote:Mark Berman
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Rice Director of Athletics (@RiceAthletics) Joe Karlgaard (@jkarlgaard) signed a 3-year extension that runs to June/2024: “It’s certainly gratifying..It means quite abit” Rice President David Leebron:“Joe is the right leader for Rice athletics,especially in these dynamic times”

Here's the link with JK's comments....

https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/stat...9158211592

Lol “dynamic times” for others but same old static for us.

You're presuming that he gave a s*** ever?
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SIGH
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(09-01-2021 08:22 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Awful decision. We reward a guy who destroyed football, basketball, and baseball? Absolutely pathetic display by Rice. Not to mention, two months ago, Karlgaard was interviewing for other AD positions. I question his real commitment to Rice. He must not really want to be here if he has interviewed for other jobs. Why would Rice reward that? He's inept and looking to leave as soon as possible. No one else wants him!

I hope Rice sees bigtime improvement coming in our three biggest sports that I can't see at the moment.

Has men’s basketball really gotten worse under JK? The last AD made comments that at least gave an excuse for 2 of our better players to transfer to PAC programs and a bunch of other guys followed them out the door. Pera has an eye for recruiting talent and is finally keeping more of his guys on campus.

And while (from the outside) it looks like he handles the WG sunset seasons poorly and made a bit of a dud replacement hire for baseball, JK at least quickly moved to change directions and chose one of the (IMO) best options he could have with Cruz Jr.

Meanwhile, I think his biggest football blunder was Bailiff’s extension. I am still not sold on Bloomgren, but on paper he was the right kind of hire for Rice and Rice has at least had pretty solid defenses the past couple of years.

I am critical of the extension and would have preferred rolling the dice on new blood … but I also don’t think JK has been a failure. On a scale of 1-10, I would give him a 6 or 7. Rice is way behind the programs we want to be associated with, but that was the case when JK got to Rice. He hasn’t moved the ball forward much, maybe he has just stopped the freerall. But he has done well with the non-revenue sports, has run a clean department, and has basically tread water with the revenue sports (with some upside potential for all 3 in 2021-22). So I don’t love the extension, but this isn’t the end of Rice athletics. It just isn’t the potential dawn of a Rice athletics revival either.
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(08-31-2021 10:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-31-2021 10:16 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Confirms that my dollars are better donated to cancer research and my high school.
Don’t let the door hit ya, Leebs.

Same here.

I really can't imagine a situation where I could have become more disenchanted with an organization faster than I have with Rice.

well, in its defense, Rice didn't give $80 billion to Texas when the SWC disintegrated.
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(09-01-2021 10:54 PM)mrbig Wrote:  
(09-01-2021 08:22 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Awful decision. We reward a guy who destroyed football, basketball, and baseball? Absolutely pathetic display by Rice. Not to mention, two months ago, Karlgaard was interviewing for other AD positions. I question his real commitment to Rice. He must not really want to be here if he has interviewed for other jobs. Why would Rice reward that? He's inept and looking to leave as soon as possible. No one else wants him!

I hope Rice sees bigtime improvement coming in our three biggest sports that I can't see at the moment.

Has men’s basketball really gotten worse under JK? The last AD made comments that at least gave an excuse for 2 of our better players to transfer to PAC programs and a bunch of other guys followed them out the door. Pera has an eye for recruiting talent and is finally keeping more of his guys on campus.

And while (from the outside) it looks like he handles the WG sunset seasons poorly and made a bit of a dud replacement hire for baseball, JK at least quickly moved to change directions and chose one of the (IMO) best options he could have with Cruz Jr.

Meanwhile, I think his biggest football blunder was Bailiff’s extension. I am still not sold on Bloomgren, but on paper he was the right kind of hire for Rice and Rice has at least had pretty solid defenses the past couple of years.

I am critical of the extension and would have preferred rolling the dice on new blood … but I also don’t think JK has been a failure. On a scale of 1-10, I would give him a 6 or 7. Rice is way behind the programs we want to be associated with, but that was the case when JK got to Rice. He hasn’t moved the ball forward much, maybe he has just stopped the freerall. But he has done well with the non-revenue sports, has run a clean department, and has basically tread water with the revenue sports (with some upside potential for all 3 in 2021-22). So I don’t love the extension, but this isn’t the end of Rice athletics. It just isn’t the potential dawn of a Rice athletics revival either.

That's some good perspective. Hopefully things are about to turn around in the big three men's sports. He had never been an AD before, so there's the learning curve to consider. I'll accept him with open arms if football, basketball, and baseball have winning seasons this year. It's past time that all his efforts bear fruit. Perhaps the timing is right for him, but I'm growing very impatient with the lack of results.
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