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(08-18-2021 09:01 AM)solohawks Wrote:  With the transfer rules as they are now, signing them clearly doesn't lock them up

Anecdotally, it sure seems that this sort of thing is happening all over college basketball.
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(08-18-2021 09:36 AM)70shawk Wrote:  
(08-18-2021 09:01 AM)solohawks Wrote:  With the transfer rules as they are now, signing them clearly doesn't lock them up

Anecdotally, it sure seems that this sort of thing is happening all over college basketball.

yep

would love to see where the kid ends up

never good, but in today's age of free movement, i don't think its a death knell, especially at the mid major level
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(08-18-2021 09:58 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(08-18-2021 09:36 AM)70shawk Wrote:  
(08-18-2021 09:01 AM)solohawks Wrote:  With the transfer rules as they are now, signing them clearly doesn't lock them up

Anecdotally, it sure seems that this sort of thing is happening all over college basketball.

yep

would love to see where the kid ends up

never good, but in today's age of free movement, i don't think its a death knell, especially at the mid major level
I don't think anyone has said it's any kind of death. Simply stating that it's a pattern or a trend so far with the new coaching staff. And if it continues, it will definitely become more troublesome.
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(08-18-2021 08:47 AM)ScribeHawk Wrote:  Appears Samb has been present in all of the team's group photos except for the most recent. Haven't heard anything about a departure, so I'd have to assume he just had class or might have been traveling. McCracken went absent from those photos in early July and never returned.

In all, we're still waiting for Samb, Surigao and Morrissey to be added to the roster.

Could be almost anything with McCracken. He's a very talented player, and played on a very high level high school and travel team in Cincinnati. For some reason his family picked up and left Cincinnati his Senior year in HS. He came to Hilton Head SC and immediately took his HS to the state championship game and set records at that high school in one year. Who knows what prompted that move and how it may have affected his ability to come to UNCW or his desire to be here. Most parents I know don't make that kind of move in a pivotal year for their kid unless there's a really good reason.
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(08-18-2021 10:54 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(08-18-2021 08:47 AM)ScribeHawk Wrote:  Appears Samb has been present in all of the team's group photos except for the most recent. Haven't heard anything about a departure, so I'd have to assume he just had class or might have been traveling. McCracken went absent from those photos in early July and never returned.

In all, we're still waiting for Samb, Surigao and Morrissey to be added to the roster.

Could be almost anything with McCracken. He's a very talented player, and played on a very high level high school and travel team in Cincinnati. For some reason his family picked up and left Cincinnati his Senior year in HS. He came to Hilton Head SC and immediately took his HS to the state championship game and set records at that high school in one year. Who knows what prompted that move and how it may have affected his ability to come to UNCW or his desire to be here. Most parents I know don't make that kind of move in a pivotal year for their kid unless there's a really good reason.
looking at his Verbal commits, looks like he received an offer from both Cinci and Penn State earlier this year.
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Thanks Scribe!
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(08-18-2021 10:54 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Could be almost anything with McCracken. He's a very talented player, and played on a very high level high school and travel team in Cincinnati. For some reason his family picked up and left Cincinnati his Senior year in HS. He came to Hilton Head SC and immediately took his HS to the state championship game and set records at that high school in one year. Who knows what prompted that move and how it may have affected his ability to come to UNCW or his desire to be here. Most parents I know don't make that kind of move in a pivotal year for their kid unless there's a really good reason.

Does this mean that UNCW has an open scholarship for this fall? Any chance that we will hear of another recruit being added?
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(08-20-2021 07:42 AM)70shawk Wrote:  
(08-18-2021 10:54 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Could be almost anything with McCracken. He's a very talented player, and played on a very high level high school and travel team in Cincinnati. For some reason his family picked up and left Cincinnati his Senior year in HS. He came to Hilton Head SC and immediately took his HS to the state championship game and set records at that high school in one year. Who knows what prompted that move and how it may have affected his ability to come to UNCW or his desire to be here. Most parents I know don't make that kind of move in a pivotal year for their kid unless there's a really good reason.

Does this mean that UNCW has an open scholarship for this fall? Any chance that we will hear of another recruit being added?

Probably was given to Logan Morrissey. Found it odd when he was added to the roster over the summer but he was a scholarship player at Air Force though saw little action.
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Kadim Saab was officially added to the roster. He will be an interesting piece as he can drive it some and shoot the perimeter shot at 6'7" (some had him an inch taller) and listed at 200 lbs. Hawks need additional frontcourt depth so we shall see.

My guess at this point would be Kelly at the 5 to start as he is 6'9" and is 230 or so? The freshman has good size but is a little light as listed so we will see. We've seen lighter guys do well even early so he may pan out well with his athletic ability/long arms but it's good to have a few other guys in that 6'7" range with some experience and girth to man the 5 when it is needed to defend the hole and rebound.
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(09-10-2021 10:49 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Kadim Saab was officially added to the roster. He will be an interesting piece as he can drive it some and shoot the perimeter shot at 6'7" (some had him an inch taller) and listed at 200 lbs. Hawks need additional frontcourt depth so we shall see.

My guess at this point would be Kelly at the 5 to start as he is 6'9" and is 230 or so? The freshman has good size but is a little light as listed so we will see. We've seen lighter guys do well even early so he may pan out well with his athletic ability/long arms but it's good to have a few other guys in that 6'7" range with some experience and girth to man the 5 when it is needed to defend the hole and rebound.

Kelly and Samb are ready to go. McGriff is a project player who is improving quickly and has great upside. Kelly will probably start.
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Here we are just a few weeks from conference play with only a few OOC remaining and it feels like we are still uncertain what to do with this team on offense. The primary combination of Phillips, Okauru and Sims just isn't getting it done, so this late in the year we're actually looking at Sims to PG over Phillips. Sorry, but I just don't see how this helps the team. It takes Sims out of contributing where his strengths are(rebounding, FT's and shooting the three off the pass) and relegates Phillips to a backup role since Okauru is going to start at the 2. Just seems like a bad move overall. And now there is talk of going bigger.

Looking back ver this thread I predicted Siddle using a bigger lineup with the following:

Pg- Phillps/Thomas
2 - Okauru/Oglesby
3 - Sims/Harvey
4 - Baker/Samb
5 - Kelly/Samb

Although I like that lineup, the emergence of White and Harvey mixes this up. I like us going big, but it means Siddle would have to abandon his "shoot three's first" strategy. I'd like to see us try to keep some three point shooters in the game AND go big, but that would mean some radical changes to what we've been doing. But first and foremost we have got to get our guys sticking to what they do best.

Looking at our lineup, Okaru is really the one guy who has to play. BUT, he has got to give up the three ball and drive to the bucket. Right now, he has more three point attempts than two point attempts. That mix should be about 30% of his shots from three and 70% on the drive. He shoots over 50% from two and under 30% from three.

Phillips can't be on the bench. He is our starting PG but the problem is that we need him to be a scoring PG on this team. He needs to play the point like Denzel Ingram did and not be afraid to take the three. He has the size to use a high pick to get open and either drive or shoot the three.

We need Sims shooting three's off the pass, rebounding and getting to the FT line. When he plays PG he is shooting three's off the bounce and missing, he isn't rebounding and he isn't getting to the FT line. His ideal position on this team is at the four, but that displace White.

Harvey also needs to be on the court. He is our most gifted scorer and he should be taking more shots. His ideal position is at the three.

White is just one of those guys who is always in the right spot on defense, getting rebounds and making the team better. He needs to abandon the three as well and focus on working in the paint.

The bottom line is that we have a group of good players but just haven't found the right combonation to make it work. Here's what i'd like to see against Jacksonville. IMO, this would be our best offensive players on the floor with Kelly being a defensive stopper and rebounder in the post

Phillips, Okauru, Harvey, Sims, Kelly

Thomas, Fornes, White, Baker off the bench.

Thomas could come off the bench and help some of the less talented offensive players get easy baskets from his great passing abilities.

But in that lineup, Phillips has to really start looking for his shot. We're a really good offensive rebounding team, but it's only because we get so many long rebounds of missed three's. I'd rather see the ball go in the basket and the offensive rebounding go down.
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Good points but we need to give Sims a shot at PG. Sims is the best all-around offensive player and draws the defense to get guys better looks/he can also get his own. He had 3 assists in the last game and should have had 5-6. He can score at all 3 levels too so the defense has to honor him.

I agree that Sims could be great at 4 too but unfortunately he can’t be there and at point. Maybe Shy comes into his own off the ball some. If so and Mike gets rolling, we have something good.

It will be interesting to see how we do going big. Kelly’s defense numbers have been terrific on paper and the eye test validates the data- see Seahawk Perch.
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Sims is not a PG, and that is a terrible move.

Period.


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(12-08-2021 08:52 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  Sims is not a PG, and that is a terrible move.

Period.

Fully agreed. Granted, I do tend to like Sims getting to the rim, as he does tend to draw a lot of foul calls and he's a very good FT shooter for his size.

But is he a facilitator? I haven't seen it yet. Neither he nor Okauru need to be ball-dominant for this team. It needs to be Phillips and Thomas sharing PG duties the remainder of the season.
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(12-08-2021 09:16 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(12-08-2021 08:52 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  Sims is not a PG, and that is a terrible move.

Period.

Fully agreed. Granted, I do tend to like Sims getting to the rim, as he does tend to draw a lot of foul calls and he's a very good FT shooter for his size.

But is he a facilitator? I haven't seen it yet. Neither he nor Okauru need to be ball-dominant for this team. It needs to be Phillips and Thomas sharing PG duties the remainder of the season.

Besides the fact it's not his natural position and he isn't a facilitator, it also moves Phillips to the bench since he's not going to start over Mike. We are already crowded into the one to three spots and this just makes it worse. What we really need is for Phillips to start looking to score and for Sims and Okauru to look for him to score as well. Both of them like to shoot, and they need to be willing to give that up to get Phillips involved.
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I like Sims a lot. He is a good player, and by all accounts a great guy as well.

He’s not a PG though, and by taking that duty away from the two good PGs we have on this team shakes their confidence, and does not give them time to develop their play on court.

If this is accurate news that we’re making the switch to Sims at PG, than Siddle is really not doing himself any favors.


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(12-08-2021 09:41 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  If this is accurate news that we’re making the switch to Sims at PG, than Siddle is really not doing himself any favors.


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Further, it makes ZERO sense. Everyone can see that. You don't even need any basketball knowledge.
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(12-08-2021 09:48 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-08-2021 09:41 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  If this is accurate news that we’re making the switch to Sims at PG, than Siddle is really not doing himself any favors.


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Further, it makes ZERO sense. Everyone can see that. You don't even need any basketball knowledge.

I think it is becoming clearer that we should have hired Byington when we had the chance. Other than Brownell, every time we hire someone with no previous head coaching experience, it doesn’t turn out well. I hope this mess of an offense gets better soon or we are in for a long season.
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(12-08-2021 12:17 PM)Seahawk33 Wrote:  
(12-08-2021 09:48 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-08-2021 09:41 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  If this is accurate news that we’re making the switch to Sims at PG, than Siddle is really not doing himself any favors.


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Further, it makes ZERO sense. Everyone can see that. You don't even need any basketball knowledge.

I think it is becoming clearer that we should have hired Byington when we had the chance. Other than Brownell, every time we hire someone with no previous head coaching experience, it doesn’t turn out well. I hope this mess of an offense gets better soon or we are in for a long season.
I don't think BB counts. He was groomed to take it over. He was able to keep the same players and system in place. had KK not bolted on us so quickly, maybe the same thing could have happened. Sadly, we will never know.
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(12-08-2021 12:17 PM)Seahawk33 Wrote:  
(12-08-2021 09:48 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-08-2021 09:41 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  If this is accurate news that we’re making the switch to Sims at PG, than Siddle is really not doing himself any favors.


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Further, it makes ZERO sense. Everyone can see that. You don't even need any basketball knowledge.

I think it is becoming clearer that we should have hired Byington when we had the chance. Other than Brownell, every time we hire someone with no previous head coaching experience, it doesn’t turn out well. I hope this mess of an offense gets better soon or we are in for a long season.

I don't agree at all. It's way too soon to make that determination. I like our defensive style and I'm confident we will get the right players and offense in place. Another big roster turnover will come next year and we will have a better look at where we are going.
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