(08-06-2021 11:28 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The Texas and Florida schools should leave and take Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss and UAB with them. That's a nice 9-team conference I can live with. UTEP gone to the MWC (crossing fingers)? No problem! Come on down Texas State and the new conference's footprint just got smaller. Marshall and Old Dominion can say goodbye to Texas and Florida exposure. Enjoy the C-MAC Belt Herd and Monarch fans!

Well some of us like being in CUSA so don't get your panties in a salsa over this If the eastern part breaks away then there is a greater chance for the FL twins to stay with the eastern teams. We won't be losing any FL exposure more than likely and talking about TX exposure don't worry about it since there is none to begin with. We have as many kids from CA if not more than TX. Don't get me wrong i love ElPaso and like being in conference with UTEP but i don't think AD's see it that way since they can't make elephant sized athletic programs run on shoe string budgets.

(08-06-2021 11:28 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The Texas and Florida schools should leave and take Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss and UAB with them. That's a nice 9-team conference I can live with. UTEP gone to the MWC (crossing fingers)? No problem! Come on down Texas State and the new conference's footprint just got smaller. Marshall and Old Dominion can say goodbye to Texas and Florida exposure. Enjoy the C-MAC Belt Herd and Monarch fans!

The Florida schools want to play with east coast schools. Ideally, the conference splits east and west of the Bama/Mississippi border. Texas schools already have a nice thing going in a Texas centric league. The eastern schools are going to revolt.

A core of App/Marshall/FAU/Coastal/Ga Southern/UAB + rivals is what I think we will see. That leaves Louisiana/La Tech/USM/Ark State/Texas Schools to have a core league in Texas/Louisiana/Arkansas where you share a similar culture. USM is honestly a toss up for either league but their fans are annoying, so you can have em.

If there was a TX school we would want, it would be Rice. Great academics and The Roost does a darn good job at season previews. Hoot hoot!

Honestly, if we continue to see our top games get picked up by the RSNs then I would really like our media deal. We just need less Facebook games or at least limit that to the Tier 3 games.

RSNs on Saturdays works for me!

(08-07-2021 11:28 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 11:28 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The Texas and Florida schools should leave and take Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss and UAB with them. That's a nice 9-team conference I can live with. UTEP gone to the MWC (crossing fingers)? No problem! Come on down Texas State and the new conference's footprint just got smaller. Marshall and Old Dominion can say goodbye to Texas and Florida exposure. Enjoy the C-MAC Belt Herd and Monarch fans!

Well some of us like being in CUSA so don't get your panties in a salsa over this If the eastern part breaks away then there is a greater chance for the FL twins to stay with the eastern teams. We won't be losing any FL exposure more than likely and talking about TX exposure don't worry about it since there is none to begin with. We have as many kids from CA if not more than TX. Don't get me wrong i love ElPaso and like being in conference with UTEP but i don't think AD's see it that way since they can't make elephant sized athletic programs run on shoe string budgets.

clt likes lime and cilantro in salsa

(08-07-2021 11:28 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 11:28 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The Texas and Florida schools should leave and take Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss and UAB with them. That's a nice 9-team conference I can live with. UTEP gone to the MWC (crossing fingers)? No problem! Come on down Texas State and the new conference's footprint just got smaller. Marshall and Old Dominion can say goodbye to Texas and Florida exposure. Enjoy the C-MAC Belt Herd and Monarch fans!

Well some of us like being in CUSA so don't get your panties in a salsa over this If the eastern part breaks away then there is a greater chance for the FL twins to stay with the eastern teams. We won't be losing any FL exposure more than likely and talking about TX exposure don't worry about it since there is none to begin with. We have as many kids from CA if not more than TX. Don't get me wrong i love ElPaso and like being in conference with UTEP but i don't think AD's see it that way since they can't make elephant sized athletic programs run on shoe string budgets.

The F_U twins are isolated regardless if they align with the Eastern schools or the Texas ones. Similar to the U_F twins in the AAC.

Texas and Florida schools in the same compact conference would be a better alternative than anything I've seen here. And by the way, I want UTEP in the MWC (where we belong) and Texas State can take our spot.

Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Louisiana Tech
Southern Miss
UAB

Travel would be at worst the same for the FL twins compared with an Eastern league anchored by Marshall and ODU. In that scenario, I really doubt Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee would align with a conference that has zero Florida exposure. That conference would be a one bid league but it's not like C-USA has been a multiple league bid since the 2005-06 season. So if I had any power, I'd take the TX and FL schools away and leave the ones behind in the C-MAC Belt.

(08-07-2021 10:05 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 03:27 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 07:33 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 02:13 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 01:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  It's not like the Sun Belt is the MAC.

But hey, enjoy playing on Facebook Live!

Another lie the Sunbelchers like to peddle. Tech football had 0 games on Facebook Live last year. Looking at the 2021 schedule Tech also has 0 football games on Facebook Live this coming year. I think in 2019 we had 1 home football game on Facebook. Of course home games do not matter to me because I'm at the game anyway. I would rather have 1 Facebook Live game every two to three years then playing on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday nights every year.

Looking at the 2021 App. St. football schedule you have 2 Thursday night games, 1 Tuesday night game and 1 Wednesday night game. Compare that to Tech's 2021 football schedule were we have 1 Friday night game and the rest of our schedule is Saturday football. Literally 33 % of your schedule is not being played on Saturday this coming year. I'll gladly take a Facebook game every few years to avoid that disaster of a Sunbelt schedule.

GREAT POST!

So yeah, everyone knows that cusa has the better media deal. Got it.

It’s better than playing 1/3 or your schedule Mid week. For literally peanuts minus the production. Sunbelt had no other choice to take it.

Ok, keep trying to sell this crazy spin that you have a just as good, or even better media deal. First you’d have to convince your conf mates, which I don’t think that’s gonna happen. Heck, I truly believe that even you and the other ltur folks don’t believe what you are trying to prove.
But I’m a fan from another conf so I’ll let that be my last word.

(08-07-2021 12:10 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 11:28 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 11:28 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The Texas and Florida schools should leave and take Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss and UAB with them. That's a nice 9-team conference I can live with. UTEP gone to the MWC (crossing fingers)? No problem! Come on down Texas State and the new conference's footprint just got smaller. Marshall and Old Dominion can say goodbye to Texas and Florida exposure. Enjoy the C-MAC Belt Herd and Monarch fans!

Well some of us like being in CUSA so don't get your panties in a salsa over this If the eastern part breaks away then there is a greater chance for the FL twins to stay with the eastern teams. We won't be losing any FL exposure more than likely and talking about TX exposure don't worry about it since there is none to begin with. We have as many kids from CA if not more than TX. Don't get me wrong i love ElPaso and like being in conference with UTEP but i don't think AD's see it that way since they can't make elephant sized athletic programs run on shoe string budgets.

The F_U twins are isolated regardless if they align with the Eastern schools or the Texas ones. Similar to the U_F twins in the AAC.

Texas and Florida schools in the same compact conference would be a better alternative than anything I've seen here. And by the way, I want UTEP in the MWC (where we belong) and Texas State can take our spot.

Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Louisiana Tech
Southern Miss
UAB

Travel would be at worst the same for the FL twins compared with an Eastern league anchored by Marshall and ODU. In that scenario, I really doubt Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee would align with a conference that has zero Florida exposure. That conference would be a one bid league but it's not like C-USA has been a multiple league bid since the 2005-06 season. So if I had any power, I'd take the TX and FL schools away and leave the ones behind in the C-MAC Belt.

FAU and FIU aren't going west and neither is UAB. And if UAB doesn't go, I seriously doubt USM goes. Better grab NMSU and TXST if you can.

(08-07-2021 12:26 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 12:10 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 11:28 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 11:28 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The Texas and Florida schools should leave and take Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss and UAB with them. That's a nice 9-team conference I can live with. UTEP gone to the MWC (crossing fingers)? No problem! Come on down Texas State and the new conference's footprint just got smaller. Marshall and Old Dominion can say goodbye to Texas and Florida exposure. Enjoy the C-MAC Belt Herd and Monarch fans!

Well some of us like being in CUSA so don't get your panties in a salsa over this If the eastern part breaks away then there is a greater chance for the FL twins to stay with the eastern teams. We won't be losing any FL exposure more than likely and talking about TX exposure don't worry about it since there is none to begin with. We have as many kids from CA if not more than TX. Don't get me wrong i love ElPaso and like being in conference with UTEP but i don't think AD's see it that way since they can't make elephant sized athletic programs run on shoe string budgets.

The F_U twins are isolated regardless if they align with the Eastern schools or the Texas ones. Similar to the U_F twins in the AAC.

Texas and Florida schools in the same compact conference would be a better alternative than anything I've seen here. And by the way, I want UTEP in the MWC (where we belong) and Texas State can take our spot.

Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Louisiana Tech
Southern Miss
UAB

Travel would be at worst the same for the FL twins compared with an Eastern league anchored by Marshall and ODU. In that scenario, I really doubt Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee would align with a conference that has zero Florida exposure. That conference would be a one bid league but it's not like C-USA has been a multiple league bid since the 2005-06 season. So if I had any power, I'd take the TX and FL schools away and leave the ones behind in the C-MAC Belt.

FAU and FIU aren't going west and neither is UAB. And if UAB doesn't go, I seriously doubt USM goes. Better grab NMSU and TXST if you can.

You never know. I know this is not the narrative people on this board are used to hear but a conference anchored by Texas and Florida schools is actually a good idea. Direct flights to DFW, Houston, San Antonio, Austin, Birmingham, Miami and Fort Lauderdale. New Orleans is that not far from Hattiesburg. Shreveport is only a connecting flight in Dallas and Houston. Travel wouldn't be any different than going to places like Huntington and Norfolk.

But at the end, I don't see any split. What makes people thing a mediocre program in C-USA 3.0 will become good by joining another conference or creating a new one? If C-USA is in the situation it is now is because the 14 schools have been mediocre in football and basketball. Joining the Sun Belt or splitting won't resolve that issue. You're just a mediocre program with a different conference logo patch on the jerseys. Judy is part of the problem but her job depends on the review of the 14 presidents and if she still has a job then blame your school president for it.

If Marshall and ODU or any combination of schools had any pull, a split would've happened by now. The lack of movement tells us the networks (especially ESPN) are not interested and if they are, they're asking to play on Tuesdays and Wednesday nights for peanuts.

(08-07-2021 12:23 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 10:05 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 03:27 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 07:33 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 02:13 PM)deb025 Wrote:  [/b]

Another lie the Sunbelchers like to peddle. Tech football had 0 games on Facebook Live last year. Looking at the 2021 schedule Tech also has 0 football games on Facebook Live this coming year. I think in 2019 we had 1 home football game on Facebook. Of course home games do not matter to me because I'm at the game anyway. I would rather have 1 Facebook Live game every two to three years then playing on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday nights every year.

Looking at the 2021 App. St. football schedule you have 2 Thursday night games, 1 Tuesday night game and 1 Wednesday night game. Compare that to Tech's 2021 football schedule were we have 1 Friday night game and the rest of our schedule is Saturday football. Literally 33 % of your schedule is not being played on Saturday this coming year. I'll gladly take a Facebook game every few years to avoid that disaster of a Sunbelt schedule.

GREAT POST!

So yeah, everyone knows that cusa has the better media deal. Got it.

It’s better than playing 1/3 or your schedule Mid week. For literally peanuts minus the production. Sunbelt had no other choice to take it.

Ok, keep trying to sell this crazy spin that you have a just as good, or even better media deal. First you’d have to convince your conf mates, which I don’t think that’s gonna happen. Heck, I truly believe that even you and the other ltur folks don’t believe what you are trying to prove.
But I’m a fan from another conf so I’ll let that be my last word.

I want no part of mid week games I can say that for sure. Occasional Thursday/Friday is one thing but heck no to the Tues/Weds games. He is also correct that those days have historically been reserved for the lower tier conferences.

If... and this is a major if.... if we can continue to get our games on the RSNs on Saturdays then I would definitely choose our media deal over yours.

I can see why La Tech would prefer our media deal over yours. They never/rarely get stuck on Facebook because they don’t get their games picked up in the Tier 1/2 slots.

Also from a fan standpoint I don’t mind the Facebook games. Just sucks from an exposure standpoint. If we can make Facebook only the Tier 3 games then I would be fine with them.

The RSNs on Saturdays are awesome.

I have an anecdotal story that my SEC friend didn’t know the ACC was D1.

Mainly because they’re idiots…

Every CUSA team would trade for the SBC’s TV deal yesterday. Go reread the Judy thread.

(08-07-2021 03:17 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I have an anecdotal story that my SEC friend didn’t know the ACC was D1.

Mainly because they’re idiots…

Every CUSA team would trade for the SBC’s TV deal yesterday. Go reread the Judy threads.

I was gonna say ‘which one,’ than thought, nah, I’ll just FIFH.

(08-07-2021 12:10 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 11:28 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 11:28 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The Texas and Florida schools should leave and take Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss and UAB with them. That's a nice 9-team conference I can live with. UTEP gone to the MWC (crossing fingers)? No problem! Come on down Texas State and the new conference's footprint just got smaller. Marshall and Old Dominion can say goodbye to Texas and Florida exposure. Enjoy the C-MAC Belt Herd and Monarch fans!

Well some of us like being in CUSA so don't get your panties in a salsa over this If the eastern part breaks away then there is a greater chance for the FL twins to stay with the eastern teams. We won't be losing any FL exposure more than likely and talking about TX exposure don't worry about it since there is none to begin with. We have as many kids from CA if not more than TX. Don't get me wrong i love ElPaso and like being in conference with UTEP but i don't think AD's see it that way since they can't make elephant sized athletic programs run on shoe string budgets.

The F_U twins are isolated regardless if they align with the Eastern schools or the Texas ones. Similar to the U_F twins in the AAC.

Texas and Florida schools in the same compact conference would be a better alternative than anything I've seen here. And by the way, I want UTEP in the MWC (where we belong) and Texas State can take our spot.

Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Louisiana Tech
Southern Miss
UAB

Travel would be at worst the same for the FL twins compared with an Eastern league anchored by Marshall and ODU. In that scenario, I really doubt Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee would align with a conference that has zero Florida exposure. That conference would be a one bid league but it's not like C-USA has been a multiple league bid since the 2005-06 season. So if I had any power, I'd take the TX and FL schools away and leave the ones behind in the C-MAC Belt.

Don’t tell us who’s isolated Mr. UTEP. We both have close major air travel hubs with lower cost of travel than El Paso. We also don’t care about travel costs because we aren’t reeling for cash like USM.

FAU is sick of being in TX centric CUSA. There is no chance we give up games we care about in the East for the shiteshow that has been going on in the west. CUSA East is trying to ditch every CUSA West team not named UAB. Just go play football with Tx State, Ark State, and ULM.

If UTEP wants to be in the MWC then you need to do much more than you’ve done in the last 10 years.

(08-07-2021 03:17 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I have an anecdotal story that my SEC friend didn’t know the ACC was D1.

Mainly because they’re idiots…

Every CUSA team would trade for the SBC’s TV deal yesterday. Go reread the Judy thread.

I’m honestly not sure that I would. As App has figured out the better teams get screwed with the most mid week games and it’s always your better games that get pushed to mid week.

As a Marshall fan, I prefer Saturday games and absolutely no Tues/Weds games.

(08-07-2021 04:28 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 12:10 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 11:28 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 11:28 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The Texas and Florida schools should leave and take Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss and UAB with them. That's a nice 9-team conference I can live with. UTEP gone to the MWC (crossing fingers)? No problem! Come on down Texas State and the new conference's footprint just got smaller. Marshall and Old Dominion can say goodbye to Texas and Florida exposure. Enjoy the C-MAC Belt Herd and Monarch fans!

Well some of us like being in CUSA so don't get your panties in a salsa over this If the eastern part breaks away then there is a greater chance for the FL twins to stay with the eastern teams. We won't be losing any FL exposure more than likely and talking about TX exposure don't worry about it since there is none to begin with. We have as many kids from CA if not more than TX. Don't get me wrong i love ElPaso and like being in conference with UTEP but i don't think AD's see it that way since they can't make elephant sized athletic programs run on shoe string budgets.

The F_U twins are isolated regardless if they align with the Eastern schools or the Texas ones. Similar to the U_F twins in the AAC.

Texas and Florida schools in the same compact conference would be a better alternative than anything I've seen here. And by the way, I want UTEP in the MWC (where we belong) and Texas State can take our spot.

Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Louisiana Tech
Southern Miss
UAB

Travel would be at worst the same for the FL twins compared with an Eastern league anchored by Marshall and ODU. In that scenario, I really doubt Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee would align with a conference that has zero Florida exposure. That conference would be a one bid league but it's not like C-USA has been a multiple league bid since the 2005-06 season. So if I had any power, I'd take the TX and FL schools away and leave the ones behind in the C-MAC Belt.

Don’t tell us who’s isolated Mr. UTEP. We both have close major air travel hubs with lower cost of travel than El Paso. We also don’t care about travel costs because we aren’t reeling for cash like USM.

FAU is sick of being in TX centric CUSA. There is no chance we give up games we care about in the East for the shiteshow that has been going on in the west. CUSA East is trying to ditch every CUSA West team not named UAB. Just go play football with Tx State, Ark State, and ULM.

If UTEP wants to be in the MWC then you need to do much more than you’ve done in the last 10 years.

Wow, you turned nasty. Is it possible that an eastern conference forms without FAU? Yes it is although maybe not likely. For instance what if Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MT, WKU are successful in working out a conference with Liberty, JMU, Coastal, App St, GA So, GA St and UAB? Good 12 team conference that could happen if the TV folks offered enough. Makes great geographical sense.

I don't get the haughty persona you're trying to project. Can't you trade ideas without pretending you're much more important than you really are?

(08-07-2021 04:58 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 04:28 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 12:10 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 11:28 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 11:28 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The Texas and Florida schools should leave and take Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss and UAB with them. That's a nice 9-team conference I can live with. UTEP gone to the MWC (crossing fingers)? No problem! Come on down Texas State and the new conference's footprint just got smaller. Marshall and Old Dominion can say goodbye to Texas and Florida exposure. Enjoy the C-MAC Belt Herd and Monarch fans!

Well some of us like being in CUSA so don't get your panties in a salsa over this If the eastern part breaks away then there is a greater chance for the FL twins to stay with the eastern teams. We won't be losing any FL exposure more than likely and talking about TX exposure don't worry about it since there is none to begin with. We have as many kids from CA if not more than TX. Don't get me wrong i love ElPaso and like being in conference with UTEP but i don't think AD's see it that way since they can't make elephant sized athletic programs run on shoe string budgets.

The F_U twins are isolated regardless if they align with the Eastern schools or the Texas ones. Similar to the U_F twins in the AAC.

Texas and Florida schools in the same compact conference would be a better alternative than anything I've seen here. And by the way, I want UTEP in the MWC (where we belong) and Texas State can take our spot.

Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Louisiana Tech
Southern Miss
UAB

Travel would be at worst the same for the FL twins compared with an Eastern league anchored by Marshall and ODU. In that scenario, I really doubt Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee would align with a conference that has zero Florida exposure. That conference would be a one bid league but it's not like C-USA has been a multiple league bid since the 2005-06 season. So if I had any power, I'd take the TX and FL schools away and leave the ones behind in the C-MAC Belt.

Don’t tell us who’s isolated Mr. UTEP. We both have close major air travel hubs with lower cost of travel than El Paso. We also don’t care about travel costs because we aren’t reeling for cash like USM.

FAU is sick of being in TX centric CUSA. There is no chance we give up games we care about in the East for the shiteshow that has been going on in the west. CUSA East is trying to ditch every CUSA West team not named UAB. Just go play football with Tx State, Ark State, and ULM.

If UTEP wants to be in the MWC then you need to do much more than you’ve done in the last 10 years.

Wow, you turned nasty. Is it possible that an eastern conference forms without FAU? Yes it is although maybe not likely. For instance what if Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MT, WKU are successful in working out a conference with Liberty, JMU, Coastal, App St, GA So, GA St and UAB? Good 12 team conference that could happen if the TV folks offered enough. Makes great geographical sense.

I don't get the haughty persona you're trying to project. Can't you trade ideas without pretending you're much more important than you really are?

FAU will 100% be included. Is there a chance FIU gets left out? That’s possible but not very likely.

(08-07-2021 04:58 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 04:28 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 12:10 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 11:28 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 11:28 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The Texas and Florida schools should leave and take Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss and UAB with them. That's a nice 9-team conference I can live with. UTEP gone to the MWC (crossing fingers)? No problem! Come on down Texas State and the new conference's footprint just got smaller. Marshall and Old Dominion can say goodbye to Texas and Florida exposure. Enjoy the C-MAC Belt Herd and Monarch fans!

Well some of us like being in CUSA so don't get your panties in a salsa over this If the eastern part breaks away then there is a greater chance for the FL twins to stay with the eastern teams. We won't be losing any FL exposure more than likely and talking about TX exposure don't worry about it since there is none to begin with. We have as many kids from CA if not more than TX. Don't get me wrong i love ElPaso and like being in conference with UTEP but i don't think AD's see it that way since they can't make elephant sized athletic programs run on shoe string budgets.

The F_U twins are isolated regardless if they align with the Eastern schools or the Texas ones. Similar to the U_F twins in the AAC.

Texas and Florida schools in the same compact conference would be a better alternative than anything I've seen here. And by the way, I want UTEP in the MWC (where we belong) and Texas State can take our spot.

Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Louisiana Tech
Southern Miss
UAB

Travel would be at worst the same for the FL twins compared with an Eastern league anchored by Marshall and ODU. In that scenario, I really doubt Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee would align with a conference that has zero Florida exposure. That conference would be a one bid league but it's not like C-USA has been a multiple league bid since the 2005-06 season. So if I had any power, I'd take the TX and FL schools away and leave the ones behind in the C-MAC Belt.

Don’t tell us who’s isolated Mr. UTEP. We both have close major air travel hubs with lower cost of travel than El Paso. We also don’t care about travel costs because we aren’t reeling for cash like USM.

FAU is sick of being in TX centric CUSA. There is no chance we give up games we care about in the East for the shiteshow that has been going on in the west. CUSA East is trying to ditch every CUSA West team not named UAB. Just go play football with Tx State, Ark State, and ULM.

If UTEP wants to be in the MWC then you need to do much more than you’ve done in the last 10 years.

Wow, you turned nasty. Is it possible that an eastern conference forms without FAU? Yes it is although maybe not likely. For instance what if Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MT, WKU are successful in working out a conference with Liberty, JMU, Coastal, App St, GA So, GA St and UAB? Good 12 team conference that could happen if the TV folks offered enough. Makes great geographical sense.

I don't get the haughty persona you're trying to project. Can't you trade ideas without pretending you're much more important than you really are?

I have nothing against UTEP, in fact I could care less about UTEP and that’s the problem. UTSA is enjoyable to watch, North Texas is enjoyable to beat, Rice has friendly and enjoyable fans. UTEP is nearly invisible.

The truth is the east has a growing disdain for Judy and crew as they hand us directives from Texas. The Texas schools haven’t pulled their weight and there is no reason for them to hold as much power as they do. CUSA East + UAB have carried the conference yet the headquarters sit in Texas.

Also, you suggested the worst case scenario as what FAU should want. The last thing we want is to be stuck with TX schools + USM + La Tech. That’s a nightmare of underperformance and annoying fans.

(08-07-2021 12:45 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 12:26 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 12:10 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 11:28 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 11:28 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The Texas and Florida schools should leave and take Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss and UAB with them. That's a nice 9-team conference I can live with. UTEP gone to the MWC (crossing fingers)? No problem! Come on down Texas State and the new conference's footprint just got smaller. Marshall and Old Dominion can say goodbye to Texas and Florida exposure. Enjoy the C-MAC Belt Herd and Monarch fans!

Well some of us like being in CUSA so don't get your panties in a salsa over this If the eastern part breaks away then there is a greater chance for the FL twins to stay with the eastern teams. We won't be losing any FL exposure more than likely and talking about TX exposure don't worry about it since there is none to begin with. We have as many kids from CA if not more than TX. Don't get me wrong i love ElPaso and like being in conference with UTEP but i don't think AD's see it that way since they can't make elephant sized athletic programs run on shoe string budgets.

The F_U twins are isolated regardless if they align with the Eastern schools or the Texas ones. Similar to the U_F twins in the AAC.

Texas and Florida schools in the same compact conference would be a better alternative than anything I've seen here. And by the way, I want UTEP in the MWC (where we belong) and Texas State can take our spot.

Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Louisiana Tech
Southern Miss
UAB

Travel would be at worst the same for the FL twins compared with an Eastern league anchored by Marshall and ODU. In that scenario, I really doubt Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee would align with a conference that has zero Florida exposure. That conference would be a one bid league but it's not like C-USA has been a multiple league bid since the 2005-06 season. So if I had any power, I'd take the TX and FL schools away and leave the ones behind in the C-MAC Belt.

FAU and FIU aren't going west and neither is UAB. And if UAB doesn't go, I seriously doubt USM goes. Better grab NMSU and TXST if you can.

You never know. I know this is not the narrative people on this board are used to hear but a conference anchored by Texas and Florida schools is actually a good idea. Direct flights to DFW, Houston, San Antonio, Austin, Birmingham, Miami and Fort Lauderdale. New Orleans is that not far from Hattiesburg. Shreveport is only a connecting flight in Dallas and Houston. Travel wouldn't be any different than going to places like Huntington and Norfolk.

But at the end, I don't see any split. What makes people thing a mediocre program in C-USA 3.0 will become good by joining another conference or creating a new one? If C-USA is in the situation it is now is because the 14 schools have been mediocre in football and basketball. Joining the Sun Belt or splitting won't resolve that issue. You're just a mediocre program with a different conference logo patch on the jerseys. Judy is part of the problem but her job depends on the review of the 14 presidents and if she still has a job then blame your school president for it.

If Marshall and ODU or any combination of schools had any pull, a split would've happened by now. The lack of movement tells us the networks (especially ESPN) are not interested and if they are, they're asking to play on Tuesdays and Wednesday nights for peanuts.

Our best hope is that Marshall and ODU stop teasing us and leave. 12 existing team C-USA would thrive.

(08-07-2021 05:35 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 04:58 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 04:28 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 12:10 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(08-07-2021 11:28 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Well some of us like being in CUSA so don't get your panties in a salsa over this If the eastern part breaks away then there is a greater chance for the FL twins to stay with the eastern teams. We won't be losing any FL exposure more than likely and talking about TX exposure don't worry about it since there is none to begin with. We have as many kids from CA if not more than TX. Don't get me wrong i love ElPaso and like being in conference with UTEP but i don't think AD's see it that way since they can't make elephant sized athletic programs run on shoe string budgets.

The F_U twins are isolated regardless if they align with the Eastern schools or the Texas ones. Similar to the U_F twins in the AAC.

Texas and Florida schools in the same compact conference would be a better alternative than anything I've seen here. And by the way, I want UTEP in the MWC (where we belong) and Texas State can take our spot.

Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Louisiana Tech
Southern Miss
UAB

Travel would be at worst the same for the FL twins compared with an Eastern league anchored by Marshall and ODU. In that scenario, I really doubt Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee would align with a conference that has zero Florida exposure. That conference would be a one bid league but it's not like C-USA has been a multiple league bid since the 2005-06 season. So if I had any power, I'd take the TX and FL schools away and leave the ones behind in the C-MAC Belt.

Don’t tell us who’s isolated Mr. UTEP. We both have close major air travel hubs with lower cost of travel than El Paso. We also don’t care about travel costs because we aren’t reeling for cash like USM.

FAU is sick of being in TX centric CUSA. There is no chance we give up games we care about in the East for the shiteshow that has been going on in the west. CUSA East is trying to ditch every CUSA West team not named UAB. Just go play football with Tx State, Ark State, and ULM.

If UTEP wants to be in the MWC then you need to do much more than you’ve done in the last 10 years.

Wow, you turned nasty. Is it possible that an eastern conference forms without FAU? Yes it is although maybe not likely. For instance what if Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MT, WKU are successful in working out a conference with Liberty, JMU, Coastal, App St, GA So, GA St and UAB? Good 12 team conference that could happen if the TV folks offered enough. Makes great geographical sense.

I don't get the haughty persona you're trying to project. Can't you trade ideas without pretending you're much more important than you really are?

I have nothing against UTEP, in fact I could care less about UTEP and that’s the problem. UTSA is enjoyable to watch, North Texas is enjoyable to beat, Rice has friendly and enjoyable fans. UTEP is nearly invisible.

The truth is the east has a growing disdain for Judy and crew as they hand us directives from Texas. The Texas schools haven’t pulled their weight and there is no reason for them to hold as much power as they do. CUSA East + UAB have carried the conference yet the headquarters sit in Texas.

Also, you suggested the worst case scenario as what FAU should want. The last thing we want is to be stuck with TX schools + USM + La Tech. That’s a nightmare of underperformance and annoying fans.

Very reasonable response.

We all want what's best for our schools. And yes, UTEP needs to start winning in fb and mbb. I'm hopeful that happens this year. We need to get back to 30k plus in fb attendance and mbb fans are already excited about the new coach and season tickets are selling well.

If UTEP doesn't make it into the mwc then I would at least like to stay with the other Texas schools plus La Tech. UAB would be nice too, love our mbb games with them, but I know they would go east.

I have found UTEP fans to be friendly and enjoyable, like fans almost everywhere.

(08-07-2021 07:14 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I have found UTEP fans to be friendly and enjoyable, like fans almost everywhere.

Wait until USM fans bring up Brett Farve for the billionth time.