UAB is a research powerhouse. That kind of thing matters to university presidents.

https://www.uab.edu/news/research/item/1...20schools.

In 2020, UAB pulled in $325M in NIH research funding which ranked 27th in the country and 12th among public universities.

UAB also recently completed a $1 billion capital campaign.

clt says uab, fau and Charlotte fit together well with odu and rice.

Odu rice. My favorite food.

We do love our food jokes.

(07-27-2021 08:59 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 05:41 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 02:30 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 07:24 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 03:47 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  You're letting YOUR passion for UAB blind you man. Birmingham is Bama territory, and it always will be. As far as sports go, UAB will never be more than it is today. What the SEC just did in acquiring Texas and Oklahoma sealed that deal forever.

First, UAB hasn't been a commuter school since the mid 90s. Second, Birmingham is absolutely Bama territory but that doesn't mean it can't be shared by Auburn and UAB which it is.

Now I suggest that you don't let jealousy blind you. UAB has always had the potential to be a big deal in Birmingham and it's now coming to fruition. I'm sure there are more LSU fans in Ruston than La Tech fans but that hasn't stop you guys from growing. I can appreciate the putdowns from the Techsters but if anyone has reached their full potential if you compare UAB to La Tech it is La Tech. UAB is just scratching the surface while you guys have pretty much tapped out your metropolitan population of 22,000.

UAB has already tapped out it's potential because it no longer has 25 & 26 year old athletes competing against everyone else's 18-20 yr old athletes. That's why the football playing field has been leveled the last couple of years.

I stopped you here because you tapped out. When you're ready to talk with some common sense tap back in.

LOL! In other words, you got NOTHING!

When someone such as yourself spits out nothing, nothing is what you'll get in return.

(07-28-2021 05:12 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 08:59 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 05:41 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 02:30 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 07:24 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  First, UAB hasn't been a commuter school since the mid 90s. Second, Birmingham is absolutely Bama territory but that doesn't mean it can't be shared by Auburn and UAB which it is.

Now I suggest that you don't let jealousy blind you. UAB has always had the potential to be a big deal in Birmingham and it's now coming to fruition. I'm sure there are more LSU fans in Ruston than La Tech fans but that hasn't stop you guys from growing. I can appreciate the putdowns from the Techsters but if anyone has reached their full potential if you compare UAB to La Tech it is La Tech. UAB is just scratching the surface while you guys have pretty much tapped out your metropolitan population of 22,000.

UAB has already tapped out it's potential because it no longer has 25 & 26 year old athletes competing against everyone else's 18-20 yr old athletes. That's why the football playing field has been leveled the last couple of years.

I stopped you here because you tapped out. When you're ready to talk with some common sense tap back in.

LOL! In other words, you got NOTHING!

When someone such as yourself spits out nothing, nothing is what you'll get in return.

I'll be curious to see how much your new found fans stick once Alabama and Auburn are in their new league and once you go through a few losing seasons. It's been all steak and lobster since you've been back. A couple years of oatmeal may loosen some dedication to the cause. I am not wishing for that. Love you guys. But without a crusade vs the man and Bill Clark, for instance, well let's just say you aren't very far removed from having empty stadiums on gameday. I need more evidence that you can weather a storm of losing without having a uniting cause to rally around.

(07-28-2021 06:51 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 05:12 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 08:59 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 05:41 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 02:30 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  UAB has already tapped out it's potential because it no longer has 25 & 26 year old athletes competing against everyone else's 18-20 yr old athletes. That's why the football playing field has been leveled the last couple of years.

I stopped you here because you tapped out. When you're ready to talk with some common sense tap back in.

LOL! In other words, you got NOTHING!

When someone such as yourself spits out nothing, nothing is what you'll get in return.

I'll be curious to see how much your new found fans stick once Alabama and Auburn are in their new league and once you go through a few losing seasons. It's been all steak and lobster since you've been back. A couple years of oatmeal may loosen some dedication to the cause. I am not wishing for that. Love you guys. But without a crusade vs the man and Bill Clark, for instance, well let's just say you aren't very far removed from having empty stadiums on gameday. I need more evidence that you can weather a storm of losing without having a uniting cause to rally around.

How thoughtful. Are you actually hoping we fail?

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(07-28-2021 06:51 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 05:12 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 08:59 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 05:41 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 02:30 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  UAB has already tapped out it's potential because it no longer has 25 & 26 year old athletes competing against everyone else's 18-20 yr old athletes. That's why the football playing field has been leveled the last couple of years.

I stopped you here because you tapped out. When you're ready to talk with some common sense tap back in.

LOL! In other words, you got NOTHING!

When someone such as yourself spits out nothing, nothing is what you'll get in return.

I'll be curious to see how much your new found fans stick once Alabama and Auburn are in their new league and once you go through a few losing seasons. It's been all steak and lobster since you've been back. A couple years of oatmeal may loosen some dedication to the cause. I am not wishing for that. Love you guys. But without a crusade vs the man and Bill Clark, for instance, well let's just say you aren't very far removed from having empty stadiums on gameday. I need more evidence that you can weather a storm of losing without having a uniting cause to rally around.

That's a good post. And very true. It's been pretty much "all good" for UAB fans since they returned to football in 2017. They established a new football program in 2017, immediately won two CUSA championships and another West Division title, opened up a brand new practice facility, now they are opening a new stadium, etc.... They haven't really had anything negative happen yet. For UAB fans, the 4-year experience has been akin to a kid living in Disney World. It will be very interesting to see how UAB can weather a few storms, if they ever have any.

Weather storms? We been weathering storms since our inception.

Perhaps SBC could make sense for you.
USM can jumpstart its athletic department again via local rivalries with South Alabama and Troy.
Marshall is weirdly similar culturally and institutionally with App, Coastal, and Southern. Even your fans give of similar vibes for good or worse.
I can see UAB developing "Battle of I-20" thing with GSU. easy 2hrs drive. only separated by the GA/AL border. Atlanta/Birmingham would be good travels and plenty to do during a day trip.

(07-28-2021 09:11 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 06:51 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 05:12 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 08:59 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 05:41 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  I stopped you here because you tapped out. When you're ready to talk with some common sense tap back in.

LOL! In other words, you got NOTHING!

When someone such as yourself spits out nothing, nothing is what you'll get in return.

I'll be curious to see how much your new found fans stick once Alabama and Auburn are in their new league and once you go through a few losing seasons. It's been all steak and lobster since you've been back. A couple years of oatmeal may loosen some dedication to the cause. I am not wishing for that. Love you guys. But without a crusade vs the man and Bill Clark, for instance, well let's just say you aren't very far removed from having empty stadiums on gameday. I need more evidence that you can weather a storm of losing without having a uniting cause to rally around.

How thoughtful. Are you actually hoping we fail?

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I answered that very question right in my post. Read, then comment.

The biggest differences between UAB football now and UAB in the early 2000's are that our Board of Trustees (who are 'Bama's BoT) are not actively sticking daggers into our back and cockblocking everything we try to do to develop our program. There's still some of that, for instance we are not allowed to issue construction bonds to build athletic facilities, we have to raise cash and pay up front, but things are nowhere near as poisonous as they were.

Where before our football offices were in a converted 1970's dentist office (No, I'm not kidding) and our practice field was a converted intramural field that flooded when it rained and was so uneven that it tore up knees and ankles when it was dry, we have a state of the art football complex with a covered practice field. Previously there were a number of high schools in town with better facilities. As a result, we are no longer trying to recruit with one foot in a bucket of cement. Adding one of the nicest stadiums in the G5 is going to turbocharge all that.

We now get recruits from the Birmingham area and in state that we never got before. Kids in high school now don't have a perception of UAB as a sinkhole of a program. All they remember is our winning our division three straight times and the conference back to back. Clark being HC has also made relations with the in-state high school coaches far better, as he was well liked and respected as one of them and the previous coaches were actively disrespectful of them.

The entire perception and status of the UAB program is far different than it was previously, and most of the reasons why are not going anywhere. There's no doubt that things will not always be as rosy as they are now, but I've been a UAB fan through the bad times. I clearly see the differences and understand why the improvement happened. Bill Clark was the catalyst, sure, and it will be a hit when he moves up... but he shows no sign of doing that. He is beloved here. Everything good about this program as it sits he helped design and make happen. He's in no hurry to move on, now he gets to enjoy the payoff for his hard work. I truly think he stays here until he gets a big time offer at a P5 school in the upper half of their league, probably in the SEC. He's already proven that he isn't going to jump to a P5 bottom feeder to grab that big contract money.

We're going to have tough times again at some point, every program does... but our floor will never ever be as low as it once was, and picking ourselves up and getting back on track will be lightyears easier when it happens.

(07-28-2021 10:26 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 06:51 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 05:12 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 08:59 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 05:41 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  I stopped you here because you tapped out. When you're ready to talk with some common sense tap back in.

LOL! In other words, you got NOTHING!

When someone such as yourself spits out nothing, nothing is what you'll get in return.

I'll be curious to see how much your new found fans stick once Alabama and Auburn are in their new league and once you go through a few losing seasons. It's been all steak and lobster since you've been back. A couple years of oatmeal may loosen some dedication to the cause. I am not wishing for that. Love you guys. But without a crusade vs the man and Bill Clark, for instance, well let's just say you aren't very far removed from having empty stadiums on gameday. I need more evidence that you can weather a storm of losing without having a uniting cause to rally around.

That's a good post. And very true. It's been pretty much "all good" for UAB fans since they returned to football in 2017. They established a new football program in 2017, immediately won two CUSA championships and another West Division title, opened up a brand new practice facility, now they are opening a new stadium, etc.... They haven't really had anything negative happen yet. For UAB fans, the 4-year experience been akin to a kid living in Disney World. It will be very interesting to see how UAB can weather a few storms, if they ever have any.

If you think we've never weathered a storm, this is your tacit admission that you don't know the first damn thing about UAB football.

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(07-29-2021 10:38 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  The biggest differences between UAB football now and UAB in the early 2000's are that our Board of Trustees (who are 'Bama's BoT) are not actively sticking daggers into our back and cockblocking everything we try to do to develop our program. There's still some of that, for instance we are not allowed to issue construction bonds to build athletic facilities, we have to raise cash and pay up front, but things are nowhere near as poisonous as they were.

Where before our football offices were in a converted 1970's dentist office (No, I'm not kidding) and our practice field was a converted intramural field that flooded when it rained and was so uneven that it tore up knees and ankles when it was dry, we have a state of the art football complex with a covered practice field. Previously there were a number of high schools in town with better facilities. As a result, we are no longer trying to recruit with one foot in a bucket of cement. Adding one of the nicest stadiums in the G5 is going to turbocharge all that.

We now get recruits from the Birmingham area and in state that we never got before. Kids in high school now don't have a perception of UAB as a sinkhole of a program. All they remember is our winning our division three straight times and the conference back to back. Clark being HC has also made relations with the in-state high school coaches far better, as he was well liked and respected as one of them and the previous coaches were actively disrespectful of them.

The entire perception and status of the UAB program is far different than it was previously, and most of the reasons why are not going anywhere. There's no doubt that things will not always be as rosy as they are now, but I've been a UAB fan through the bad times. I clearly see the differences and understand why the improvement happened. Bill Clark was the catalyst, sure, and it will be a hit when he moves up... but he shows no sign of doing that. He is beloved here. Everything good about this program as it sits he helped design and make happen. He's in no hurry to move on, now he gets to enjoy the payoff for his hard work. I truly think he stays here until he gets a big time offer at a P5 school in the upper half of their league, probably in the SEC. He's already proven that he isn't going to jump to a P5 bottom feeder to grab that big contract money.

We're going to have tough times again at some point, every program does... but our floor will never ever be as low as it once was, and picking ourselves up and getting back on track will be lightyears easier when it happens.

I don't think that's true anymore either. My understanding is we now just need to raise 50-60% of a project's cost before construction can begin. The under construction basketball practice facility being an example of that.

(07-29-2021 10:38 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  The biggest differences between UAB football now and UAB in the early 2000's are that our Board of Trustees (who are 'Bama's BoT) are not actively sticking daggers into our back and cockblocking everything we try to do to develop our program. There's still some of that, for instance we are not allowed to issue construction bonds to build athletic facilities, we have to raise cash and pay up front, but things are nowhere near as poisonous as they were.

Where before our football offices were in a converted 1970's dentist office (No, I'm not kidding) and our practice field was a converted intramural field that flooded when it rained and was so uneven that it tore up knees and ankles when it was dry, we have a state of the art football complex with a covered practice field. Previously there were a number of high schools in town with better facilities. As a result, we are no longer trying to recruit with one foot in a bucket of cement. Adding one of the nicest stadiums in the G5 is going to turbocharge all that.

We now get recruits from the Birmingham area and in state that we never got before. Kids in high school now don't have a perception of UAB as a sinkhole of a program. All they remember is our winning our division three straight times and the conference back to back. Clark being HC has also made relations with the in-state high school coaches far better, as he was well liked and respected as one of them and the previous coaches were actively disrespectful of them.

The entire perception and status of the UAB program is far different than it was previously, and most of the reasons why are not going anywhere. There's no doubt that things will not always be as rosy as they are now, but I've been a UAB fan through the bad times. I clearly see the differences and understand why the improvement happened. Bill Clark was the catalyst, sure, and it will be a hit when he moves up... but he shows no sign of doing that. He is beloved here. Everything good about this program as it sits he helped design and make happen. He's in no hurry to move on, now he gets to enjoy the payoff for his hard work. I truly think he stays here until he gets a big time offer at a P5 school in the upper half of their league, probably in the SEC. He's already proven that he isn't going to jump to a P5 bottom feeder to grab that big contract money.

We're going to have tough times again at some point, every program does... but our floor will never ever be as low as it once was, and picking ourselves up and getting back on track will be lightyears easier when it happens.

See. That's a good answer and alleviates valid concerns about what will happen if you hit a rough patch. We won't know till we know, but at least have some idea of the improvements beyond the coach and stadium that will affect the outcome.

(07-29-2021 02:35 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 10:26 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 06:51 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 05:12 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 08:59 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  LOL! In other words, you got NOTHING!

When someone such as yourself spits out nothing, nothing is what you'll get in return.

I'll be curious to see how much your new found fans stick once Alabama and Auburn are in their new league and once you go through a few losing seasons. It's been all steak and lobster since you've been back. A couple years of oatmeal may loosen some dedication to the cause. I am not wishing for that. Love you guys. But without a crusade vs the man and Bill Clark, for instance, well let's just say you aren't very far removed from having empty stadiums on gameday. I need more evidence that you can weather a storm of losing without having a uniting cause to rally around.

That's a good post. And very true. It's been pretty much "all good" for UAB fans since they returned to football in 2017. They established a new football program in 2017, immediately won two CUSA championships and another West Division title, opened up a brand new practice facility, now they are opening a new stadium, etc.... They haven't really had anything negative happen yet. For UAB fans, the 4-year experience been akin to a kid living in Disney World. It will be very interesting to see how UAB can weather a few storms, if they ever have any.

If you think we've never weathered a storm, this is your tacit admission that you don't know the first damn thing about UAB football.

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You lost a house to a tidal surge. You built your next house on stilts. We're just wondering if those stilts are reinforced concrete or bamboo. You took personally what is a valid concern. Don't worry Band Dad had your back. I'm satisfied you have a strong foundation and not a crappy patch job.

(07-29-2021 03:39 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(07-29-2021 02:35 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 10:26 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 06:51 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 05:12 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  When someone such as yourself spits out nothing, nothing is what you'll get in return.

I'll be curious to see how much your new found fans stick once Alabama and Auburn are in their new league and once you go through a few losing seasons. It's been all steak and lobster since you've been back. A couple years of oatmeal may loosen some dedication to the cause. I am not wishing for that. Love you guys. But without a crusade vs the man and Bill Clark, for instance, well let's just say you aren't very far removed from having empty stadiums on gameday. I need more evidence that you can weather a storm of losing without having a uniting cause to rally around.

That's a good post. And very true. It's been pretty much "all good" for UAB fans since they returned to football in 2017. They established a new football program in 2017, immediately won two CUSA championships and another West Division title, opened up a brand new practice facility, now they are opening a new stadium, etc.... They haven't really had anything negative happen yet. For UAB fans, the 4-year experience been akin to a kid living in Disney World. It will be very interesting to see how UAB can weather a few storms, if they ever have any.

If you think we've never weathered a storm, this is your tacit admission that you don't know the first damn thing about UAB football.

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You lost a house to a tidal surge. You built your next house on stilts. We're just wondering if those stilts are reinforced concrete or bamboo. You took personally what is a valid concern. Don't worry Band Dad had your back. I'm satisfied you have a strong foundation and not a crappy patch job.

clt’s beach house: https://www.popsci.com/hurricane-michael...gineering/

I say we start prepping a lawsuit against ESPN for what happened in the last realignment.

(07-29-2021 03:39 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(07-29-2021 02:35 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 10:26 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 06:51 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 05:12 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  When someone such as yourself spits out nothing, nothing is what you'll get in return.

I'll be curious to see how much your new found fans stick once Alabama and Auburn are in their new league and once you go through a few losing seasons. It's been all steak and lobster since you've been back. A couple years of oatmeal may loosen some dedication to the cause. I am not wishing for that. Love you guys. But without a crusade vs the man and Bill Clark, for instance, well let's just say you aren't very far removed from having empty stadiums on gameday. I need more evidence that you can weather a storm of losing without having a uniting cause to rally around.

That's a good post. And very true. It's been pretty much "all good" for UAB fans since they returned to football in 2017. They established a new football program in 2017, immediately won two CUSA championships and another West Division title, opened up a brand new practice facility, now they are opening a new stadium, etc.... They haven't really had anything negative happen yet. For UAB fans, the 4-year experience been akin to a kid living in Disney World. It will be very interesting to see how UAB can weather a few storms, if they ever have any.

If you think we've never weathered a storm, this is your tacit admission that you don't know the first damn thing about UAB football.

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You lost a house to a tidal surge. You built your next house on stilts. We're just wondering if those stilts are reinforced concrete or bamboo. You took personally what is a valid concern. Don't worry Band Dad had your back. I'm satisfied you have a strong foundation and not a crappy patch job.

As a UAB fan, I agree with what is being said. UABs fan base hasnt grown exponentially, since the Return. Sure, its much better than it was but if UAB wants to really grow the fan base they are not going to do it by simply winning CUSA. The new stadium will help greatly, but sustained success plus wins that have national significance is what we need. Asking what happens when either Bill Clark leaves or UAB starts losing is a very valid question.