With a way for “G5” to get into the playoffs, and an apparent major conference realignment coming, I see another FCS group making the move. If the B1G is raided it’s essentially now down to “P4”, so that means 2 “G5” conferences getting in if they stay with the 6 highest ranked conference champs in the 12 team playoff.

These moves are made years before we find out about it. JaxSt hasn’t been rebuilding baseball stadiums, basketball arenas and football stadium expansion not knowing they were going to be moving to higher ground.

We, the general public, find out when it’s all a done deal and they are ready to announce it. That is what happened yesterday, they announced it, things have been happening behind the scenes for years to get to that announcement.

A reshuffle of the P5 would almost certainly mean some of the AAC gets called up. I don't see the PAC12 appealing to anyone and Notre Dame's inability to commit to football leaves the ACC in limbo so the Big 10 may think about matching the SEC with 16 but who are they going to take that adds value? The ACC's grant of rights probably stops anyone from leaving and no school is leaving the SEC so are any of the schools left in the Big 12 after Texas and OU leave big enough properties to add to the Big 10? I'm not sure that they are so that just leaves the Big 12 needing a couple of schools.

IMHO if Texas and OU leave the Big 12 will back fill with two schools from the American. Let's just say that's Houston and Cincinnati leaving The American with 9 for football. The American could stay pat or add 1 to 3 members and you might see some SBC schools in the mix for those spots in the American but who knows. If I had to guess which school in our conference looks the most like the schools of the current AAC it would be Georgia State.

If the AAC backfills, is UAb and GaSt the two biggest targets, you know, because marketz.

I’ve always said, UAb really deserves to be back with Memphis, Cincinnati, or whoever is left in the AAC, which is really CUSA OG.....

According to Paul Finebaum, if Texas and Oklahoma leave the Big 12 is done as a league. In other words, most or all of what's left of the Big 12 would probably be absorbed into the Pac or ACC and there'd be no back-filling anywhere.

(07-22-2021 09:36 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  According to Paul Finebaum, if Texas and Oklahoma leave the Big 12 is done as a league. In other words, most or all of what's left of the Big 12 would probably be absorbed into the Pac or ACC and there'd be no back-filling anywhere.

Anything that starts with “According to Finebaum” immediately raises a red flag. Next week when that doesn’t happen he’ll argue with you that he never said it. The Big 12 is at 14, they only add 2, the ACC is also at 14, they add ND and WVU. That still leaves 5 schools, they all aren’t going to the PAC. For one, the PAC would add BYU, and maybe 3 others, and one of those 3 others could be Colorado St out of the MW. So that could leave 2 spots in the PAC if one of those teams wants to travel that far west for every away game in every sport. Eastern Texas is a long way from California.

(07-22-2021 09:36 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  According to Paul Finebaum, if Texas and Oklahoma leave the Big 12 is done as a league. In other words, most or all of what's left of the Big 12 would probably be absorbed into the Pac or ACC and there'd be no back-filling anywhere.

Why would those schools left in the Big 12 do that when they could soak up exit fees and keep the autobids?

(07-22-2021 09:49 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(07-22-2021 09:36 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  According to Paul Finebaum, if Texas and Oklahoma leave the Big 12 is done as a league. In other words, most or all of what's left of the Big 12 would probably be absorbed into the Pac or ACC and there'd be no back-filling anywhere.

Why would those schools left in the Big 12 do that when they could soak up exit fees and keep the autobids?

Because if you're Oklahoma State or Texas Tech, do you want to be in a conference with USC/Oregon/Arizona or Cincy/Houston?

(07-22-2021 09:49 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(07-22-2021 09:36 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  According to Paul Finebaum, if Texas and Oklahoma leave the Big 12 is done as a league. In other words, most or all of what's left of the Big 12 would probably be absorbed into the Pac or ACC and there'd be no back-filling anywhere.

Why would those schools left in the Big 12 do that when they could soak up exit fees and keep the autobids?

It's hard for me to see schools like Texas Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, and TCU go to the Pac-12 or ACC.

I also wonder how Alabama will feel about Texas coming in, since Texas likes to be the big dog in the yard. Interesting stuff.

(07-22-2021 09:56 AM)Klak Wrote:  

(07-22-2021 09:49 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(07-22-2021 09:36 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  According to Paul Finebaum, if Texas and Oklahoma leave the Big 12 is done as a league. In other words, most or all of what's left of the Big 12 would probably be absorbed into the Pac or ACC and there'd be no back-filling anywhere.

Why would those schools left in the Big 12 do that when they could soak up exit fees and keep the autobids?

Because if you're Oklahoma State or Texas Tech, do you want to be in a conference with USC/Oregon/Arizona or Cincy/Houston?

And what is the value of your TV contract after losing OU and Texas if you hold firm?

Are Baylor, TCU, and KSU going to be on the outside looking in? Perhaps the PAC grabs two of those along with TT and OSU?

Whoever, and how many, is left holding the Big12 bag at the end of this could build the conference they want, filling with AAC and MW schools. Not sure if 8 of 10 teams leave a conference, do you still get to keep all the auto bids and earnings from the previous make up. Seems like there should be a limit to what a shell gets to keep.

This is going to get real interesting over the next couple years. Big 12 will lose 2 and back fill, lose 2 more and backfill again, and probably lose 2 more and again back fill. It’ll take 3 years for that to shake out. Of course all that time you have AAC teams waiting for their call up, and CUSA teams waiting for their call up to the AAC. Hopefully these schools learned from the last time, getting called up to the leftovers isn’t always a good move.

(07-22-2021 10:10 AM)Usajags Wrote:  Whoever, and how many, is left holding the Big12 bag at the end of this could build the conference they want, filling with AAC and MW schools. Not sure if 8 of 10 teams leave a conference, do you still get to keep all the auto bids and earnings from the previous make up. Seems like there should be a limit to what a shell gets to keep.

This is going to get real interesting over the next couple years. Big 12 will lose 2 and back fill, lose 2 more and backfill again, and probably lose 2 more and again back fill. It’ll take 3 years for that to shake out. Of course all that time you have AAC teams waiting for their call up, and CUSA teams waiting for their call up to the AAC. Hopefully these schools learned from the last time, getting called up to the leftovers isn’t always a good move.

You hit it on the head here. If the AAC loses their top 4 teams is it really worth jumping to be with Tulane, Tulsa, and SMU. I guess ECU and Temple would still be attractive conference mates. At the end of the day I still hope to see the Sun Belt get aggressive and do the raiding.

(07-21-2021 06:53 PM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(07-21-2021 06:48 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  Let the AAC bidding begin

Doubt it. The rest of the Big 12 will fill the other P5 confidence. The Big 12 will be gone.

A potential opening for the Red Wolves Nation?

(07-22-2021 09:58 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(07-22-2021 09:49 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(07-22-2021 09:36 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  According to Paul Finebaum, if Texas and Oklahoma leave the Big 12 is done as a league. In other words, most or all of what's left of the Big 12 would probably be absorbed into the Pac or ACC and there'd be no back-filling anywhere.

Why would those schools left in the Big 12 do that when they could soak up exit fees and keep the autobids?

It's hard for me to see schools like Texas Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, and TCU go to the Pac-12 or ACC.

I also wonder how Alabama will feel about Texas coming in, since Texas likes to be the big dog in the yard. Interesting stuff.

But UT will no longer be a big dog. The way they've played lately, they're more like the "Chihuahua of the parlor".

(07-22-2021 11:20 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(07-22-2021 09:58 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(07-22-2021 09:49 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(07-22-2021 09:36 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  According to Paul Finebaum, if Texas and Oklahoma leave the Big 12 is done as a league. In other words, most or all of what's left of the Big 12 would probably be absorbed into the Pac or ACC and there'd be no back-filling anywhere.

Why would those schools left in the Big 12 do that when they could soak up exit fees and keep the autobids?

It's hard for me to see schools like Texas Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, and TCU go to the Pac-12 or ACC.

I also wonder how Alabama will feel about Texas coming in, since Texas likes to be the big dog in the yard. Interesting stuff.

But UT will no longer be a big dog. The way they've played lately, they're more like the "Chihuahua of the parlor".

Yes, but the Texas admin doesn't act that way. They're going to want to throw their weight and money around in the SEC.

If OU and Texas leave for SEC, this will set off a chain reaction. WVU will join the ACC. Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, and Ok St would join the Pac-12. Then, Kansas and Iowa St join the Big 10, making the 4 Super conferences of 16 that were predicted so many years ago. Kansas St gets left high and dry. There may be some reshuffling amongst the other conferences, or maybe not. The Big 12 will be done. There will be no move-ups.

I would think TCU gets left out before K-State does.

(07-22-2021 08:59 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(07-21-2021 11:08 PM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(07-21-2021 10:55 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Texas and Oklahoma aren't going anywhere for a few years. Way too many obstacles.

Reliable sources say both Texas and OU plan to notify Big 12 within a couple weeks. Sources also say this is farther along than anyone thinks. This has been in the works for a while. You know it's true when Oklahoma St AD starts an investigation and is putting together a team to fight it.

If SEC and ACC go to 16, so will PAC 12 and B1G. So OkSt will go B1G, BYU to PAC12, and a few others will fill the holes.

This could be the time TxSt does head west, will the Big 12 swallow the AAC or will the AAC swallow the Big 12??? If the Big 12 attacks, could leave some interesting AAC teams available, why look at UNCC when ECU May be available??? Just an idea.

It could get interesting real soon and exciting for a lot of schools, but some sad stories for the rest of those left holding the bags. Or maybe it will just be more of the same. Oklahoma and Texas might go to the Pac-12 as the Mighty SEC nixes the both of them, well at least Texas anyway. We shall see.

Big 12 adds SMU and Houston
AAC adds UAB
CUSA adds TXST or Ga State
We add JMU or Liberty

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