(06-16-2021 12:15 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 06:51 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Let's take an honest look at Tulsa and Marshall. In a lot of respects we are very similar, but in total, if we are being completely honest and looking at the numbers, Marshall is superior. This does not even include the other sports where Marshall has won a national championship and has won games in the NCAA tournament for basketball.

I am working on another thread for all TV viewership, and quite frankly CUSA stacks up pretty well with the other conferences, and surprisingly, there's not much separation between the G5.

FOOTBALL SINCE 2005
Championships since 2005 TULSA 2 > MARSHALL 1
TULSA RECORD 108-90 even split MARSHALL RECORD 108-89
Weeks in AP Poll MARSHALL 16 > TULSA 10
Bowl games MARSHALL 7-2 > TULSA 6-4
NFL Draft Picks MARSHALL 10 > TULSA 7
2019 attendance (pre covid) MARSHALL 23,190 > TULSA 18,741

And yet for all that, you're not in a perceivably better conference.

Honestly, Marshall should have gotten in over Tulsa. I think it’s one of the things the AAC missed an opportunity on.

(06-16-2021 12:15 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 06:51 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Let's take an honest look at Tulsa and Marshall. In a lot of respects we are very similar, but in total, if we are being completely honest and looking at the numbers, Marshall is superior. This does not even include the other sports where Marshall has won a national championship and has won games in the NCAA tournament for basketball.

I am working on another thread for all TV viewership, and quite frankly CUSA stacks up pretty well with the other conferences, and surprisingly, there's not much separation between the G5.

FOOTBALL SINCE 2005
Championships since 2005 TULSA 2 > MARSHALL 1
TULSA RECORD 108-90 even split MARSHALL RECORD 108-89
Weeks in AP Poll MARSHALL 16 > TULSA 10
Bowl games MARSHALL 7-2 > TULSA 6-4
NFL Draft Picks MARSHALL 10 > TULSA 7
2019 attendance (pre covid) MARSHALL 23,190 > TULSA 18,741

And yet for all that, you're not in a perceivably better conference.

Temple is still a "have not" LOL

(06-16-2021 11:55 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 11:42 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 11:36 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 11:27 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 11:22 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  Huntington's population is almost 20% smaller today than it was in 1990, so don't take my word for it, the residents of your small town are getting the hell out.

What does that have to do with our attendance? We have people travel from all over and out of state to come to our games. Our attendance is not just people that live in Huntington. We have alumns all over the US, most in North Carolina, and guess what? They drive or fly to Huntington on the weekends to attend our games. Why? Because we have value and people want to watch our games.

If I concede that Marshall games are the best thing in America, and that so many people are flying in to see them that you may actually have to build a 4th gate, can we stop talking about this?

12,948 game day attendance in a city of 885,708 and 30,000 students.

So no, even if I tell you anything you want to hear you cannot stop.

"20.9.9.3 Football-Attendance Requirements. [FBS] Once every two years on a rolling basis, the institution shall
average at least 15,000 in actual or paid attendance for all home football games. (Revised: 4/25/02 effective 8/1/04, 4/28/05
effective 8/1/05)"

https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/reports/getReport/90008

(06-16-2021 02:14 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 11:55 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 11:42 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 11:36 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 11:27 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  What does that have to do with our attendance? We have people travel from all over and out of state to come to our games. Our attendance is not just people that live in Huntington. We have alumns all over the US, most in North Carolina, and guess what? They drive or fly to Huntington on the weekends to attend our games. Why? Because we have value and people want to watch our games.

If I concede that Marshall games are the best thing in America, and that so many people are flying in to see them that you may actually have to build a 4th gate, can we stop talking about this?

12,948 game day attendance in a city of 885,708 and 30,000 students.

So no, even if I tell you anything you want to hear you cannot stop.

"20.9.9.3 Football-Attendance Requirements. [FBS] Once every two years on a rolling basis, the institution shall
average at least 15,000 in actual or paid attendance for all home football games. (Revised: 4/25/02 effective 8/1/04, 4/28/05
effective 8/1/05)"

https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/reports/getReport/90008

Uh oh.


UNCC 2016
6 games – 85154 with average - 14192
UNCC 2017
6 Games - 71,420 with average - 11,903
UNCC 2018
6 Games - 70260 with average – 11,710
UNCC 2019
6 games – 73915 with average – 12319

(06-16-2021 01:02 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 12:15 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 06:51 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Let's take an honest look at Tulsa and Marshall. In a lot of respects we are very similar, but in total, if we are being completely honest and looking at the numbers, Marshall is superior. This does not even include the other sports where Marshall has won a national championship and has won games in the NCAA tournament for basketball.

I am working on another thread for all TV viewership, and quite frankly CUSA stacks up pretty well with the other conferences, and surprisingly, there's not much separation between the G5.

FOOTBALL SINCE 2005
Championships since 2005 TULSA 2 > MARSHALL 1
TULSA RECORD 108-90 even split MARSHALL RECORD 108-89
Weeks in AP Poll MARSHALL 16 > TULSA 10
Bowl games MARSHALL 7-2 > TULSA 6-4
NFL Draft Picks MARSHALL 10 > TULSA 7
2019 attendance (pre covid) MARSHALL 23,190 > TULSA 18,741

And yet for all that, you're not in a perceivably better conference.

Temple is still a "have not" LOL

And Marshall is _____?

If Aresco had proposed Marshall as an AAC member, the presidents would have rejected it. The reasons have nothing to do with Marshall's athletic performances or attendance. They do relate with the right of association. Obviously, they did not reject Tulsa.

(06-16-2021 02:37 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 01:02 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 12:15 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 06:51 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Let's take an honest look at Tulsa and Marshall. In a lot of respects we are very similar, but in total, if we are being completely honest and looking at the numbers, Marshall is superior. This does not even include the other sports where Marshall has won a national championship and has won games in the NCAA tournament for basketball.

I am working on another thread for all TV viewership, and quite frankly CUSA stacks up pretty well with the other conferences, and surprisingly, there's not much separation between the G5.

FOOTBALL SINCE 2005
Championships since 2005 TULSA 2 > MARSHALL 1
TULSA RECORD 108-90 even split MARSHALL RECORD 108-89
Weeks in AP Poll MARSHALL 16 > TULSA 10
Bowl games MARSHALL 7-2 > TULSA 6-4
NFL Draft Picks MARSHALL 10 > TULSA 7
2019 attendance (pre covid) MARSHALL 23,190 > TULSA 18,741

And yet for all that, you're not in a perceivably better conference.

Temple is still a "have not" LOL

And Marshall is _____?

much better than Temple in every possible variable known to mankind.

(06-16-2021 02:37 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 01:02 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 12:15 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 06:51 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Let's take an honest look at Tulsa and Marshall. In a lot of respects we are very similar, but in total, if we are being completely honest and looking at the numbers, Marshall is superior. This does not even include the other sports where Marshall has won a national championship and has won games in the NCAA tournament for basketball.

I am working on another thread for all TV viewership, and quite frankly CUSA stacks up pretty well with the other conferences, and surprisingly, there's not much separation between the G5.

FOOTBALL SINCE 2005
Championships since 2005 TULSA 2 > MARSHALL 1
TULSA RECORD 108-90 even split MARSHALL RECORD 108-89
Weeks in AP Poll MARSHALL 16 > TULSA 10
Bowl games MARSHALL 7-2 > TULSA 6-4
NFL Draft Picks MARSHALL 10 > TULSA 7
2019 attendance (pre covid) MARSHALL 23,190 > TULSA 18,741

And yet for all that, you're not in a perceivably better conference.

Temple is still a "have not" LOL

And Marshall is _____?

Not associated with Bill Cosby.

(06-16-2021 03:18 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 02:37 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 01:02 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 12:15 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 06:51 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Let's take an honest look at Tulsa and Marshall. In a lot of respects we are very similar, but in total, if we are being completely honest and looking at the numbers, Marshall is superior. This does not even include the other sports where Marshall has won a national championship and has won games in the NCAA tournament for basketball.

I am working on another thread for all TV viewership, and quite frankly CUSA stacks up pretty well with the other conferences, and surprisingly, there's not much separation between the G5.

FOOTBALL SINCE 2005
Championships since 2005 TULSA 2 > MARSHALL 1
TULSA RECORD 108-90 even split MARSHALL RECORD 108-89
Weeks in AP Poll MARSHALL 16 > TULSA 10
Bowl games MARSHALL 7-2 > TULSA 6-4
NFL Draft Picks MARSHALL 10 > TULSA 7
2019 attendance (pre covid) MARSHALL 23,190 > TULSA 18,741

And yet for all that, you're not in a perceivably better conference.

Temple is still a "have not" LOL

And Marshall is _____?

much better than Temple in every possible variable known to mankind.

How about financially, academically, and sending players to the NFL? Three pretty big ones.

clt says this was the Charlotte skyline before our first bowl game.

(06-16-2021 11:36 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 11:27 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 11:22 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 11:07 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 10:02 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  And what I am saying is that it is less about small towns supporting their local G5 teams, than it is that there is nothing else for people to do in those small towns. Still, it works in your favor.

Wow so you think there is nothing else to do in small towns? Wow, just wow!

If your football team had value in your community people would go to your games.

Huntington's population is almost 20% smaller today than it was in 1990, so don't take my word for it, the residents of your small town are getting the hell out.

What does that have to do with our attendance? We have people travel from all over and out of state to come to our games. Our attendance is not just people that live in Huntington. We have alumns all over the US, most in North Carolina, and guess what? They drive or fly to Huntington on the weekends to attend our games. Why? Because we have value and people want to watch our games.

If I concede that Marshall games are the best thing in America, and that so many people are flying in to see them that you may actually have to build a 4th gate, can we stop talking about this?

clt says the marshal football complex actually benefits CLT. The only mainline flights into their airport are from CLT.

so using marshal logic, they created one of the worlds busiest airports.

(06-16-2021 04:40 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 03:18 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 02:37 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 01:02 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 12:15 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  And yet for all that, you're not in a perceivably better conference.

Temple is still a "have not" LOL

And Marshall is _____?

much better than Temple in every possible variable known to mankind.

How about financially, academically, and sending players to the NFL? Three pretty big ones.

I agree. MU is great in their little fishbowl. They will be kings of CUSA 3.0 in no time.

(06-16-2021 06:57 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 04:40 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 03:18 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 02:37 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 01:02 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  Temple is still a "have not" LOL

And Marshall is _____?

much better than Temple in every possible variable known to mankind.

How about financially, academically, and sending players to the NFL? Three pretty big ones.

I agree. MU is great in their little fishbowl. They will be kings of CUSA 3.0 in no time.

That’s what they keep telling everyone.

This thread gives me plenty of laughs every time I read it….

(06-16-2021 06:57 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 04:40 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 03:18 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 02:37 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 01:02 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  Temple is still a "have not" LOL

And Marshall is _____?

much better than Temple in every possible variable known to mankind.

How about financially, academically, and sending players to the NFL? Three pretty big ones.

I agree. MU is great in their little fishbowl. They will be kings of CUSA 3.0 in no time.

UCF went from 12-0 to 0-12 in no time. Like a West Virginia kissing cousin of Marshall.

(06-15-2021 03:42 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 03:37 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 12:43 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:54 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:13 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  You seriously think you are the same as the SEC, B12, B10, ACC? Seriously you think that?

Step back and think about that for a second. The P5 schools are getting around $55 million a year. AAC schools get about $7millon which is SLIGHTLY higher than what the rest of the G5 teams get.

You are a G5 and there is no argument about it. It's a fact.

I tried to warn you guys, it was like I was screaming into the ether and no one was listening.

The American conference fans are highly delusional.

Yeah they are an easily “triggered” bunch.

They come here posting how great they are just looking for that one bit of validation. The P5 conferences sure aren’t going to give it to them and could care less about them.

Here is a news flash for the delusional AAC posters here: You are still going to be G5, if you think otherwise you’re idiot plain and simple.

Your board starts a ****-measuring thread about the AAC.
I came in with facts and data at post #102, because Foreverandever cited me in post #100.
I don't need any validation from any of you.
However, I do hate it when people are wrong on the internet. (That's without getting into greenbison's mixing up of primary media rights dollars and total disbursement, or your near-illiterate misuse of "could care less.") It's a heavy cross to bear.

Who's triggered? The collective with 99 posts about a marketing campaign, or the calm bringers of facts and data?

Facts and Data = the AAC is a G5 and always will be. You don't offer the P5 anything of value.

By your logic - the conference that has nothing of value to offer the P5 must think that Marshall has nothing of value to offer. So...here you are and here you shall stay. Enjoy!

BTW, what the heck has happened to Memphis basketball? Y'all used to be something when you played us, now Memphis hoops is basically invisible, when was your last NCAA tournament win?

(06-16-2021 11:55 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  BTW, what the heck has happened to Memphis basketball? Y'all used to be something when you played us, now Memphis hoops is basically invisible, when was your last NCAA tournament win?

They are heading back in the right direction.

(06-16-2021 11:04 PM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 03:42 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 03:37 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 12:43 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 10:54 AM)rileylives Wrote:  I tried to warn you guys, it was like I was screaming into the ether and no one was listening.

The American conference fans are highly delusional.

Yeah they are an easily “triggered” bunch.

They come here posting how great they are just looking for that one bit of validation. The P5 conferences sure aren’t going to give it to them and could care less about them.

Here is a news flash for the delusional AAC posters here: You are still going to be G5, if you think otherwise you’re idiot plain and simple.

Your board starts a ****-measuring thread about the AAC.
I came in with facts and data at post #102, because Foreverandever cited me in post #100.
I don't need any validation from any of you.
However, I do hate it when people are wrong on the internet. (That's without getting into greenbison's mixing up of primary media rights dollars and total disbursement, or your near-illiterate misuse of "could care less.") It's a heavy cross to bear.

Who's triggered? The collective with 99 posts about a marketing campaign, or the calm bringers of facts and data?

Facts and Data = the AAC is a G5 and always will be. You don't offer the P5 anything of value.

By your logic - the conference that has nothing of value to offer the P5 must think that Marshall has nothing of value to offer. So...here you are and here you shall stay. Enjoy!

Everyone is enjoying the AAC throw their temper tantrum Napoleon Complex.

(06-16-2021 04:40 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 03:18 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 02:37 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 01:02 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 12:15 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  And yet for all that, you're not in a perceivably better conference.

Temple is still a "have not" LOL

And Marshall is _____?

much better than Temple in every possible variable known to mankind.

How about financially, academically, and sending players to the NFL? Three pretty big ones.

Sending players to the NFL? How many wins did that get you?

Want to compare...
All Time Record?
Number of Conference Championships?
Number of Bowl Games?
All Time Wins?
Bowl Record?
Weeks spent in the top 25?