(06-13-2021 09:18 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 04:05 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 10:45 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  So is the going AAC BBS thought that we just go to 12 with BYU or go BIG and grab BYU plus the best from MWC to get to 14/16?

I’m honestly ok with adding BYU, Boise, and San Diego St as full members once it’s clear that the Big 12 isn’t going to be raided in 2024.

The AAC has no reason to move fast, they can sit back see the final CFP plans, see if they can continue to play at 11, and see how league performs in 2021 and even 2022. Only reason to go ton12 or 14 now is to strengthen the league on the field AND financially.

Makes me wonder if they could say conf champ must come from a 12 team conf. Would cause Big 12 to add causing AAC to fall back to G5.

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(06-14-2021 08:20 AM)smu89 Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 09:18 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 04:05 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 10:45 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  So is the going AAC BBS thought that we just go to 12 with BYU or go BIG and grab BYU plus the best from MWC to get to 14/16?

I’m honestly ok with adding BYU, Boise, and San Diego St as full members once it’s clear that the Big 12 isn’t going to be raided in 2024.

The AAC has no reason to move fast, they can sit back see the final CFP plans, see if they can continue to play at 11, and see how league performs in 2021 and even 2022. Only reason to go ton12 or 14 now is to strengthen the league on the field AND financially.

Makes me wonder if they could say conf champ must come from a 12 team conf. Would cause Big 12 to add causing AAC to fall back to G5.

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Very, very, unlikely. Remember, the media contracts play a role in this.

(06-11-2021 11:28 PM)Acres Wrote:  Would Luke Fickell stay at Cinci long term knowing that he has a more favorable path to the playoff than at a mid level Big10 team. This proposal is a game changer as far as recruiting and coach retention in the AAC teams. Win the conference and you are in.

There will not be an option that puts G5 conferences even close to equal footing with the P5.

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Remember there are two components to the expanded CFP plan.

#1 is access, which we have heard some parts.
#2 is financial. How will the money be divided around conferences and teams playing in the playoffs

(06-14-2021 08:20 AM)smu89 Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 09:18 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 04:05 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 10:45 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  So is the going AAC BBS thought that we just go to 12 with BYU or go BIG and grab BYU plus the best from MWC to get to 14/16?

I’m honestly ok with adding BYU, Boise, and San Diego St as full members once it’s clear that the Big 12 isn’t going to be raided in 2024.

The AAC has no reason to move fast, they can sit back see the final CFP plans, see if they can continue to play at 11, and see how league performs in 2021 and even 2022. Only reason to go ton12 or 14 now is to strengthen the league on the field AND financially.

Makes me wonder if they could say conf champ must come from a 12 team conf. Would cause Big 12 to add causing AAC to fall back to G5.

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NCAA has already changed rule to 10 team division or round-robbin to apiece BIG XII, so... NO

So I took a look at the last 5 years, excluding last year's Covid-19 year. I removed last year as the Pac-12 only played 5 games. There are some interesting results as far as playoff bids per conference came up. Here is how many playoff bids each conference would have gotten.

2019
First Round byes
#1 LSU
#2 Ohio State
#3 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Georgia vs. #17 Memphis
#6 Oregon vs. #11 Utah
#7 Baylor vs. #10 Penn State
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 Florida

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 2, ACC 1, AAC 1

2018
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma
#6 Ohio State

#3 Notre Dame vs. #12 Penn State
#5 Georgia vs. #11 LSU
#7 Michigan vs. #10 Florida
#8 UCF vs. #9 Washington

Bids - SEC 4, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 1, ACC 1, Ind 1, AAC 1

2017
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Oklahoma
#3 Georgia
#5 Ohio State

#4 Alabama vs. #12 UCF
#6 Wisconsin vs. #11 Washington
#7 Auburn vs. #10 Miami
#8 USC vs. #9 Penn State

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 2, ACC 2, AAC 1

2016
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#3 Ohio State
#4 Washington

#5 Penn State vs. #15 Western Michigan
#6 Michigan vs. #11 Florida State
#7 Oklahoma vs. #10 Colorado
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 USC

Bids - SEC 1, BIG10 4, BIG12 1, PAC12 3, ACC 2, MAC 1

2015
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Alabama
#3 Michigan State
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Iowa vs. #18 Houston
#6 Stanford vs. #11 TCU
#7 Ohio State vs. #10 North Carolina
#8 Notre Dame vs. #9 Florida State

Bids – SEC 1, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 1, ACC 3, Ind 1, AAC 1

Overall conference breakdown
SEC – 12 total bids (avg 2.4/year) - Notes – Had 3 or 4 bids the last 3 years. But only 1 bid in 2 of the 5 years.
BIG10 - 16 total bids (avg 3.2/year) - Notes – All 5 years had at least 3 bids, 1 year had 4.
BIG12 – 7 total bids (avg 1.4/year) – Notes – Never had more than 2 bids. Only having 10 teams definitely hurts them.
PAC12 – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – 3rd best of the P5 conferences.
ACC – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – Only 1 bid the last couple of years.
Ind – 2 total bids (avg 0.4/year) – Notes - Notre Dame made it 2 of 5 years.
G5 – 5 total bids (avg 1.0/year) - Notes - Had one home game out of the 5 years. Worst seed in 4 of the 5 years. AAC had 4 of the 5 bids.

The Big12 probably would increase their chances of getting more in if they expanded. Having only 10 decreases the likelihood of getting 3 or 4 teams vs. the other 14 team conferences.

(06-14-2021 11:57 AM)namssa Wrote:  So I took a look at the last 5 years, excluding last year's Covid-19 year. I removed last year as the Pac-12 only played 5 games. There are some interesting results as far as playoff bids per conference came up. Here is how many playoff bids each conference would have gotten.

2019
First Round byes
#1 LSU
#2 Ohio State
#3 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Georgia vs. #17 Memphis
#6 Oregon vs. #11 Utah
#7 Baylor vs. #10 Penn State
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 Florida

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 2, ACC 1, AAC 1

2018
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma
#6 Ohio State

#3 Notre Dame vs. #12 Penn State
#5 Georgia vs. #11 LSU
#7 Michigan vs. #10 Florida
#8 UCF vs. #9 Washington

Bids - SEC 4, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 1, ACC 1, Ind 1, AAC 1

2017
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Oklahoma
#3 Georgia
#5 Ohio State

#4 Alabama vs. #12 UCF
#6 Wisconsin vs. #11 Washington
#7 Auburn vs. #10 Miami
#8 USC vs. #9 Penn State

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 2, ACC 2, AAC 1

2016
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#3 Ohio State
#4 Washington

#5 Penn State vs. #15 Western Michigan
#6 Michigan vs. #11 Florida State
#7 Oklahoma vs. #10 Colorado
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 USC

Bids - SEC 1, BIG10 4, BIG12 1, PAC12 3, ACC 2, MAC 1

2015
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Alabama
#3 Michigan State
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Iowa vs. #18 Houston
#6 Stanford vs. #11 TCU
#7 Ohio State vs. #10 North Carolina
#8 Notre Dame vs. #9 Florida State

Bids – SEC 1, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 1, ACC 3, Ind 1, AAC 1

Overall conference breakdown
SEC – 12 total bids (avg 2.4/year) - Notes – Had 3 or 4 bids the last 3 years. But only 1 bid in 2 of the 5 years.
BIG10 - 16 total bids (avg 3.2/year) - Notes – All 5 years had at least 3 bids, 1 year had 4.
BIG12 – 7 total bids (avg 1.4/year) – Notes – Never had more than 2 bids. Only having 10 teams definitely hurts them.
PAC12 – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – 3rd best of the P5 conferences.
ACC – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – Only 1 bid the last couple of years.
Ind – 2 total bids (avg 0.4/year) – Notes - Notre Dame made it 2 of 5 years.
G5 – 5 total bids (avg 1.0/year) - Notes - Had one home game out of the 5 years. Worst seed in 4 of the 5 years. AAC had 4 of the 5 bids.

The Big12 probably would increase their chances of getting more in if they expanded. Having only 10 decreases the likelihood of getting 3 or 4 teams vs. the other 14 team conferences.

so...more spots for thr P5

***ducks***

(06-14-2021 12:52 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:57 AM)namssa Wrote:  So I took a look at the last 5 years, excluding last year's Covid-19 year. I removed last year as the Pac-12 only played 5 games. There are some interesting results as far as playoff bids per conference came up. Here is how many playoff bids each conference would have gotten.

2019
First Round byes
#1 LSU
#2 Ohio State
#3 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Georgia vs. #17 Memphis
#6 Oregon vs. #11 Utah
#7 Baylor vs. #10 Penn State
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 Florida

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 2, ACC 1, AAC 1

2018
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma
#6 Ohio State

#3 Notre Dame vs. #12 Penn State
#5 Georgia vs. #11 LSU
#7 Michigan vs. #10 Florida
#8 UCF vs. #9 Washington

Bids - SEC 4, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 1, ACC 1, Ind 1, AAC 1

2017
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Oklahoma
#3 Georgia
#5 Ohio State

#4 Alabama vs. #12 UCF
#6 Wisconsin vs. #11 Washington
#7 Auburn vs. #10 Miami
#8 USC vs. #9 Penn State

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 2, ACC 2, AAC 1

2016
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#3 Ohio State
#4 Washington

#5 Penn State vs. #15 Western Michigan
#6 Michigan vs. #11 Florida State
#7 Oklahoma vs. #10 Colorado
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 USC

Bids - SEC 1, BIG10 4, BIG12 1, PAC12 3, ACC 2, MAC 1

2015
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Alabama
#3 Michigan State
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Iowa vs. #18 Houston
#6 Stanford vs. #11 TCU
#7 Ohio State vs. #10 North Carolina
#8 Notre Dame vs. #9 Florida State

Bids – SEC 1, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 1, ACC 3, Ind 1, AAC 1

Overall conference breakdown
SEC – 12 total bids (avg 2.4/year) - Notes – Had 3 or 4 bids the last 3 years. But only 1 bid in 2 of the 5 years.
BIG10 - 16 total bids (avg 3.2/year) - Notes – All 5 years had at least 3 bids, 1 year had 4.
BIG12 – 7 total bids (avg 1.4/year) – Notes – Never had more than 2 bids. Only having 10 teams definitely hurts them.
PAC12 – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – 3rd best of the P5 conferences.
ACC – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – Only 1 bid the last couple of years.
Ind – 2 total bids (avg 0.4/year) – Notes - Notre Dame made it 2 of 5 years.
G5 – 5 total bids (avg 1.0/year) - Notes - Had one home game out of the 5 years. Worst seed in 4 of the 5 years. AAC had 4 of the 5 bids.

The Big12 probably would increase their chances of getting more in if they expanded. Having only 10 decreases the likelihood of getting 3 or 4 teams vs. the other 14 team conferences.

so...more spots for thr P5

***ducks***

Did you think they were expanding to help others. We are trading access for one of our side for 7 more for them.
Still better than no shot for us at all.

(06-14-2021 01:01 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 12:52 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:57 AM)namssa Wrote:  So I took a look at the last 5 years, excluding last year's Covid-19 year. I removed last year as the Pac-12 only played 5 games. There are some interesting results as far as playoff bids per conference came up. Here is how many playoff bids each conference would have gotten.

2019
First Round byes
#1 LSU
#2 Ohio State
#3 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Georgia vs. #17 Memphis
#6 Oregon vs. #11 Utah
#7 Baylor vs. #10 Penn State
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 Florida

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 2, ACC 1, AAC 1

2018
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma
#6 Ohio State

#3 Notre Dame vs. #12 Penn State
#5 Georgia vs. #11 LSU
#7 Michigan vs. #10 Florida
#8 UCF vs. #9 Washington

Bids - SEC 4, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 1, ACC 1, Ind 1, AAC 1

2017
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Oklahoma
#3 Georgia
#5 Ohio State

#4 Alabama vs. #12 UCF
#6 Wisconsin vs. #11 Washington
#7 Auburn vs. #10 Miami
#8 USC vs. #9 Penn State

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 2, ACC 2, AAC 1

2016
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#3 Ohio State
#4 Washington

#5 Penn State vs. #15 Western Michigan
#6 Michigan vs. #11 Florida State
#7 Oklahoma vs. #10 Colorado
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 USC

Bids - SEC 1, BIG10 4, BIG12 1, PAC12 3, ACC 2, MAC 1

2015
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Alabama
#3 Michigan State
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Iowa vs. #18 Houston
#6 Stanford vs. #11 TCU
#7 Ohio State vs. #10 North Carolina
#8 Notre Dame vs. #9 Florida State

Bids – SEC 1, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 1, ACC 3, Ind 1, AAC 1

Overall conference breakdown
SEC – 12 total bids (avg 2.4/year) - Notes – Had 3 or 4 bids the last 3 years. But only 1 bid in 2 of the 5 years.
BIG10 - 16 total bids (avg 3.2/year) - Notes – All 5 years had at least 3 bids, 1 year had 4.
BIG12 – 7 total bids (avg 1.4/year) – Notes – Never had more than 2 bids. Only having 10 teams definitely hurts them.
PAC12 – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – 3rd best of the P5 conferences.
ACC – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – Only 1 bid the last couple of years.
Ind – 2 total bids (avg 0.4/year) – Notes - Notre Dame made it 2 of 5 years.
G5 – 5 total bids (avg 1.0/year) - Notes - Had one home game out of the 5 years. Worst seed in 4 of the 5 years. AAC had 4 of the 5 bids.

The Big12 probably would increase their chances of getting more in if they expanded. Having only 10 decreases the likelihood of getting 3 or 4 teams vs. the other 14 team conferences.

so...more spots for thr P5

***ducks***

Did you think they were expanding to help others. We are trading access for one of our side for 7 more for them.
Still better than no shot for us at all.

Ummm no I didnt. I have been clear about what this is.

(06-10-2021 05:46 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  why i ask is this a better deal for UCF and Cincy over other schools in aac ?
i see this as a huge recruiting boom for houston, houston’s recruiting
base is as good as florida or ohio

Who are you replying to that said that?

Expanded CFP basically gives most teams hope.

(06-10-2021 07:15 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(06-10-2021 05:56 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-10-2021 05:48 PM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  

(06-10-2021 05:46 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  why i ask is this a better deal for UCF and Cincy over other schools in aac ?

It's not, it's just that they were the last two representatives in the NYD6 games. Also, talking heads need something to talk about.

Was thinking Cincy & Memphis were the last two AAC reps to NY6 bowls.

UCF fans don't think we exist I guess, even though they're 7 games behind us in wins and losses since 2014 (9 more wins--and 5 less losses). I keep seeing tweets from UCF homers who've left out Memphis citing AAC teams accomplishments. We're not worthy?

One tweet, a UCF guy talks about teams like UCF, Houston and Cincy as well as some other AAC football teams. Apparently we're a "some other team". Talk about arrogance.

UCF Fans know Memphis exist.

UCF and Memphis have been conference mates since 2005 and the head to head conf game record, UCF is 13-1 vs Memphis (including 13 straight victories).

Since being conf mates in 2005, here are the number of Conf Championships won by each team:

UCF: 5
Memphis: 2

Since being conf mates in 2005, here are the number of BCS/NYD6 Games and Victories

UCF: 3 BCS/NYD6 Bowl Games with 2 victories
Memphis: 1 BCS/NYD6 Bowl Game with 0 victories

With multiple close games in recent years...this i a great new conf rivalry that most seem to enjoy.

(06-14-2021 10:36 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 08:20 AM)smu89 Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 09:18 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 04:05 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 10:45 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  So is the going AAC BBS thought that we just go to 12 with BYU or go BIG and grab BYU plus the best from MWC to get to 14/16?

I’m honestly ok with adding BYU, Boise, and San Diego St as full members once it’s clear that the Big 12 isn’t going to be raided in 2024.

The AAC has no reason to move fast, they can sit back see the final CFP plans, see if they can continue to play at 11, and see how league performs in 2021 and even 2022. Only reason to go ton12 or 14 now is to strengthen the league on the field AND financially.

Makes me wonder if they could say conf champ must come from a 12 team conf. Would cause Big 12 to add causing AAC to fall back to G5.

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NCAA has already changed rule to 10 team division or round-robbin to apiece BIG XII, so... NO

The current rule the Big 12 uses to host a conf game is playing a Round Robin with the entire conf (i.e. all 10 teams play 9 conf games vs their other conf members).

AAC currently doesn't play a Round Robin but I do think the NCAA will end the waiver (AAC has another Conf Championship Game Waiver this year) that you must win divisions or play all other members in a conf to host a conf champ game.

ACC will probably be the first P5 Conf to eliminate divisions so that they can have their 2 best teams play in their Champ Game...as that conf especially has had some DOG Title Games (twice one opponent wasn't even ranked...and 3 other times they were ranked #18 or higher).

(06-14-2021 12:52 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:57 AM)namssa Wrote:  So I took a look at the last 5 years, excluding last year's Covid-19 year. I removed last year as the Pac-12 only played 5 games. There are some interesting results as far as playoff bids per conference came up. Here is how many playoff bids each conference would have gotten.

2019
First Round byes
#1 LSU
#2 Ohio State
#3 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Georgia vs. #17 Memphis
#6 Oregon vs. #11 Utah
#7 Baylor vs. #10 Penn State
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 Florida

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 2, ACC 1, AAC 1

2018
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma
#6 Ohio State

#3 Notre Dame vs. #12 Penn State
#5 Georgia vs. #11 LSU
#7 Michigan vs. #10 Florida
#8 UCF vs. #9 Washington

Bids - SEC 4, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 1, ACC 1, Ind 1, AAC 1

2017
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Oklahoma
#3 Georgia
#5 Ohio State

#4 Alabama vs. #12 UCF
#6 Wisconsin vs. #11 Washington
#7 Auburn vs. #10 Miami
#8 USC vs. #9 Penn State

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 2, ACC 2, AAC 1

2016
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#3 Ohio State
#4 Washington

#5 Penn State vs. #15 Western Michigan
#6 Michigan vs. #11 Florida State
#7 Oklahoma vs. #10 Colorado
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 USC

Bids - SEC 1, BIG10 4, BIG12 1, PAC12 3, ACC 2, MAC 1

2015
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Alabama
#3 Michigan State
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Iowa vs. #18 Houston
#6 Stanford vs. #11 TCU
#7 Ohio State vs. #10 North Carolina
#8 Notre Dame vs. #9 Florida State

Bids – SEC 1, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 1, ACC 3, Ind 1, AAC 1

Overall conference breakdown
SEC – 12 total bids (avg 2.4/year) - Notes – Had 3 or 4 bids the last 3 years. But only 1 bid in 2 of the 5 years.
BIG10 - 16 total bids (avg 3.2/year) - Notes – All 5 years had at least 3 bids, 1 year had 4.
BIG12 – 7 total bids (avg 1.4/year) – Notes – Never had more than 2 bids. Only having 10 teams definitely hurts them.
PAC12 – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – 3rd best of the P5 conferences.
ACC – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – Only 1 bid the last couple of years.
Ind – 2 total bids (avg 0.4/year) – Notes - Notre Dame made it 2 of 5 years.
G5 – 5 total bids (avg 1.0/year) - Notes - Had one home game out of the 5 years. Worst seed in 4 of the 5 years. AAC had 4 of the 5 bids.

The Big12 probably would increase their chances of getting more in if they expanded. Having only 10 decreases the likelihood of getting 3 or 4 teams vs. the other 14 team conferences.

so...more spots for thr P5

***ducks***

I look at it in terms of percentage of the field. P5 goes from 100% to <100%, and we go from 0% to >0%. Even the SEC, who we're told is pushing this whole thing, can only move from their currently achievable 50% of the field to 58%, and that would require them to get their champ in and every single at-large spot. I'd say they are less likely to hit 50%, and we're WAY more likely to get better than 0%.

There are very few scenarios that could have worked out better than this one.

(06-15-2021 03:02 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 12:52 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:57 AM)namssa Wrote:  So I took a look at the last 5 years, excluding last year's Covid-19 year. I removed last year as the Pac-12 only played 5 games. There are some interesting results as far as playoff bids per conference came up. Here is how many playoff bids each conference would have gotten.

2019
First Round byes
#1 LSU
#2 Ohio State
#3 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Georgia vs. #17 Memphis
#6 Oregon vs. #11 Utah
#7 Baylor vs. #10 Penn State
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 Florida

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 2, ACC 1, AAC 1

2018
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma
#6 Ohio State

#3 Notre Dame vs. #12 Penn State
#5 Georgia vs. #11 LSU
#7 Michigan vs. #10 Florida
#8 UCF vs. #9 Washington

Bids - SEC 4, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 1, ACC 1, Ind 1, AAC 1

2017
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Oklahoma
#3 Georgia
#5 Ohio State

#4 Alabama vs. #12 UCF
#6 Wisconsin vs. #11 Washington
#7 Auburn vs. #10 Miami
#8 USC vs. #9 Penn State

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 2, ACC 2, AAC 1

2016
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#3 Ohio State
#4 Washington

#5 Penn State vs. #15 Western Michigan
#6 Michigan vs. #11 Florida State
#7 Oklahoma vs. #10 Colorado
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 USC

Bids - SEC 1, BIG10 4, BIG12 1, PAC12 3, ACC 2, MAC 1

2015
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Alabama
#3 Michigan State
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Iowa vs. #18 Houston
#6 Stanford vs. #11 TCU
#7 Ohio State vs. #10 North Carolina
#8 Notre Dame vs. #9 Florida State

Bids – SEC 1, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 1, ACC 3, Ind 1, AAC 1

Overall conference breakdown
SEC – 12 total bids (avg 2.4/year) - Notes – Had 3 or 4 bids the last 3 years. But only 1 bid in 2 of the 5 years.
BIG10 - 16 total bids (avg 3.2/year) - Notes – All 5 years had at least 3 bids, 1 year had 4.
BIG12 – 7 total bids (avg 1.4/year) – Notes – Never had more than 2 bids. Only having 10 teams definitely hurts them.
PAC12 – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – 3rd best of the P5 conferences.
ACC – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – Only 1 bid the last couple of years.
Ind – 2 total bids (avg 0.4/year) – Notes - Notre Dame made it 2 of 5 years.
G5 – 5 total bids (avg 1.0/year) - Notes - Had one home game out of the 5 years. Worst seed in 4 of the 5 years. AAC had 4 of the 5 bids.

The Big12 probably would increase their chances of getting more in if they expanded. Having only 10 decreases the likelihood of getting 3 or 4 teams vs. the other 14 team conferences.

so...more spots for thr P5

***ducks***

I look at it in terms of percentage of the field. P5 goes from 100% to <100%, and we go from 0% to >0%. Even the SEC, who we're told is pushing this whole thing, can only move from their currently achievable 50% of the field to 58%, and that would require them to get their champ in and every single at-large spot. I'd say they are less likely to hit 50%, and we're WAY more likely to get better than 0%.

There are very few scenarios that could have worked out better than this one.

8% > 0% but still not worth betting the farm.

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(06-11-2021 01:05 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  and for my 10,000th post on this website, usf sucks.

We love you too.....not

lol

(06-13-2021 05:12 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 11:48 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  For as much as I don't like the guy....b/c its a frickin' rivalry.....UCF's former AD, Danny White deserves a TON of credit for being a loud voice in pressuring, badgering, trolling the college football establishment into expanding the playoffs. It was obvious that the play on the field was being ignored despite really good G5 teams always getting the shaft in the rankings and bowl selections.

There....I said it.

I think Danny White did a lot and Aresco got a bad rap from UCF fans in particular for not speaking up.

It's good cop bad cop. Aresco working the room from the inside and White banging on the door from the outside. Aresco has tons of connections in the industry and he wouldn't have gotten very far trying to make them look bad. Credit Aresco for much of the turnaround in support for expansion.

Agree 100%...but I actually like Aresco.

He has been a constant source of optimism and vision since he inherited the Big East mess left by John Marinatto.

Aresco has taken advantage of every opportunity to sell....evangelize AAC Athletics. He was well respected in the industry prior to joining the AAC, so that has also really helped. He is no crack pot like MWC commish, Craig Thompson, who nobody takes seriously.

(06-15-2021 10:31 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(06-10-2021 07:15 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(06-10-2021 05:56 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-10-2021 05:48 PM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  

(06-10-2021 05:46 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  why i ask is this a better deal for UCF and Cincy over other schools in aac ?

It's not, it's just that they were the last two representatives in the NYD6 games. Also, talking heads need something to talk about.

Was thinking Cincy & Memphis were the last two AAC reps to NY6 bowls.

UCF fans don't think we exist I guess, even though they're 7 games behind us in wins and losses since 2014 (9 more wins--and 5 less losses). I keep seeing tweets from UCF homers who've left out Memphis citing AAC teams accomplishments. We're not worthy?

One tweet, a UCF guy talks about teams like UCF, Houston and Cincy as well as some other AAC football teams. Apparently we're a "some other team". Talk about arrogance.

UCF Fans know Memphis exist.

UCF and Memphis have been conference mates since 2005 and the head to head conf game record, UCF is 13-1 vs Memphis (including 13 straight victories).

Since being conf mates in 2005, here are the number of Conf Championships won by each team:

UCF: 5
Memphis: 2

Since being conf mates in 2005, here are the number of BCS/NYD6 Games and Victories

UCF: 3 BCS/NYD6 Bowl Games with 2 victories
Memphis: 1 BCS/NYD6 Bowl Game with 0 victories

With multiple close games in recent years...this i a great new conf rivalry that most seem to enjoy.

He slighted us intentionally in every one of his tweets by his omission of our contributions to the conference. Whoever he is.

You've dominated us head to head, so you discount all the games we've won against teams you've lost to? This guy keeps tweeting us as 'some other team'. After it became obvious, I finally said something about it.

Somebody wake him up, and tell him we're seven games ahead of his team overall since 2014. We have the most P5 wins too. We're not discounting UCF, but he's discounting Memphis as some middle of the pack program. He's doing it on purpose.

Great new rivalry??? Nice left handed compliment. Thanks for the pat on the head. Hey, now that you overcame an 0-24 stretch to us in basketball, maybe you can start a rivalry with us in that sport too. There are fans and there are insufferable fans.

(06-15-2021 05:24 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 03:02 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 12:52 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:57 AM)namssa Wrote:  So I took a look at the last 5 years, excluding last year's Covid-19 year. I removed last year as the Pac-12 only played 5 games. There are some interesting results as far as playoff bids per conference came up. Here is how many playoff bids each conference would have gotten.

2019
First Round byes
#1 LSU
#2 Ohio State
#3 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Georgia vs. #17 Memphis
#6 Oregon vs. #11 Utah
#7 Baylor vs. #10 Penn State
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 Florida

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 2, ACC 1, AAC 1

2018
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma
#6 Ohio State

#3 Notre Dame vs. #12 Penn State
#5 Georgia vs. #11 LSU
#7 Michigan vs. #10 Florida
#8 UCF vs. #9 Washington

Bids - SEC 4, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 1, ACC 1, Ind 1, AAC 1

2017
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Oklahoma
#3 Georgia
#5 Ohio State

#4 Alabama vs. #12 UCF
#6 Wisconsin vs. #11 Washington
#7 Auburn vs. #10 Miami
#8 USC vs. #9 Penn State

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 2, ACC 2, AAC 1

2016
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#3 Ohio State
#4 Washington

#5 Penn State vs. #15 Western Michigan
#6 Michigan vs. #11 Florida State
#7 Oklahoma vs. #10 Colorado
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 USC

Bids - SEC 1, BIG10 4, BIG12 1, PAC12 3, ACC 2, MAC 1

2015
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Alabama
#3 Michigan State
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Iowa vs. #18 Houston
#6 Stanford vs. #11 TCU
#7 Ohio State vs. #10 North Carolina
#8 Notre Dame vs. #9 Florida State

Bids – SEC 1, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 1, ACC 3, Ind 1, AAC 1

Overall conference breakdown
SEC – 12 total bids (avg 2.4/year) - Notes – Had 3 or 4 bids the last 3 years. But only 1 bid in 2 of the 5 years.
BIG10 - 16 total bids (avg 3.2/year) - Notes – All 5 years had at least 3 bids, 1 year had 4.
BIG12 – 7 total bids (avg 1.4/year) – Notes – Never had more than 2 bids. Only having 10 teams definitely hurts them.
PAC12 – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – 3rd best of the P5 conferences.
ACC – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – Only 1 bid the last couple of years.
Ind – 2 total bids (avg 0.4/year) – Notes - Notre Dame made it 2 of 5 years.
G5 – 5 total bids (avg 1.0/year) - Notes - Had one home game out of the 5 years. Worst seed in 4 of the 5 years. AAC had 4 of the 5 bids.

The Big12 probably would increase their chances of getting more in if they expanded. Having only 10 decreases the likelihood of getting 3 or 4 teams vs. the other 14 team conferences.

so...more spots for thr P5

***ducks***

I look at it in terms of percentage of the field. P5 goes from 100% to <100%, and we go from 0% to >0%. Even the SEC, who we're told is pushing this whole thing, can only move from their currently achievable 50% of the field to 58%, and that would require them to get their champ in and every single at-large spot. I'd say they are less likely to hit 50%, and we're WAY more likely to get better than 0%.

There are very few scenarios that could have worked out better than this one.

8% > 0% but still not worth betting the farm.

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(06-15-2021 08:33 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 05:24 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-15-2021 03:02 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 12:52 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:57 AM)namssa Wrote:  So I took a look at the last 5 years, excluding last year's Covid-19 year. I removed last year as the Pac-12 only played 5 games. There are some interesting results as far as playoff bids per conference came up. Here is how many playoff bids each conference would have gotten.

2019
First Round byes
#1 LSU
#2 Ohio State
#3 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Georgia vs. #17 Memphis
#6 Oregon vs. #11 Utah
#7 Baylor vs. #10 Penn State
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 Florida

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 2, ACC 1, AAC 1

2018
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#4 Oklahoma
#6 Ohio State

#3 Notre Dame vs. #12 Penn State
#5 Georgia vs. #11 LSU
#7 Michigan vs. #10 Florida
#8 UCF vs. #9 Washington

Bids - SEC 4, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 1, ACC 1, Ind 1, AAC 1

2017
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Oklahoma
#3 Georgia
#5 Ohio State

#4 Alabama vs. #12 UCF
#6 Wisconsin vs. #11 Washington
#7 Auburn vs. #10 Miami
#8 USC vs. #9 Penn State

Bids - SEC 3, BIG10 3, BIG12 1, PAC12 2, ACC 2, AAC 1

2016
First Round byes
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson
#3 Ohio State
#4 Washington

#5 Penn State vs. #15 Western Michigan
#6 Michigan vs. #11 Florida State
#7 Oklahoma vs. #10 Colorado
#8 Wisconsin vs. #9 USC

Bids - SEC 1, BIG10 4, BIG12 1, PAC12 3, ACC 2, MAC 1

2015
First Round byes
#1 Clemson
#2 Alabama
#3 Michigan State
#4 Oklahoma

#5 Iowa vs. #18 Houston
#6 Stanford vs. #11 TCU
#7 Ohio State vs. #10 North Carolina
#8 Notre Dame vs. #9 Florida State

Bids – SEC 1, BIG10 3, BIG12 2, PAC12 1, ACC 3, Ind 1, AAC 1

Overall conference breakdown
SEC – 12 total bids (avg 2.4/year) - Notes – Had 3 or 4 bids the last 3 years. But only 1 bid in 2 of the 5 years.
BIG10 - 16 total bids (avg 3.2/year) - Notes – All 5 years had at least 3 bids, 1 year had 4.
BIG12 – 7 total bids (avg 1.4/year) – Notes – Never had more than 2 bids. Only having 10 teams definitely hurts them.
PAC12 – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – 3rd best of the P5 conferences.
ACC – 9 total bids (avg. 1.8/year) – Notes – Only 1 bid the last couple of years.
Ind – 2 total bids (avg 0.4/year) – Notes - Notre Dame made it 2 of 5 years.
G5 – 5 total bids (avg 1.0/year) - Notes - Had one home game out of the 5 years. Worst seed in 4 of the 5 years. AAC had 4 of the 5 bids.

The Big12 probably would increase their chances of getting more in if they expanded. Having only 10 decreases the likelihood of getting 3 or 4 teams vs. the other 14 team conferences.

so...more spots for thr P5

***ducks***

I look at it in terms of percentage of the field. P5 goes from 100% to <100%, and we go from 0% to >0%. Even the SEC, who we're told is pushing this whole thing, can only move from their currently achievable 50% of the field to 58%, and that would require them to get their champ in and every single at-large spot. I'd say they are less likely to hit 50%, and we're WAY more likely to get better than 0%.

There are very few scenarios that could have worked out better than this one.

8% > 0% but still not worth betting the farm.

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(06-10-2021 12:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(06-10-2021 12:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

P6?

This is far from over. There is deliberate push in the media against this proposal especially as it relates to the G5. Now that this proposal is heading to the full management committee deliberations this Thursday, I expect changes that will add conditions to G5 participation in the playoffs. For instance the highest rated conference champion will have to play and beat at least two top 15 ranked teams in its schedule to qualify or the spot goes to a seventh at large team. In which case no G5 team will ever rank higher than 16th.

It’s going to be an uphill climb securing that 6th playoff spot for the G5 teams.