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(05-02-2021 03:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
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(04-30-2021 12:30 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  I would say bad for UNC and Duke since they pride themselves on "academics" and having a loud voice within their conference. The BIG would be a much better fit for both schools, although they would still not have as loud a voice. But at least they would continue to be in a conference with a bunch of schools with similar academic rankings. But doubt they would want to be in a league with a bunch of "Yankees."

If they are looking to continue dominating basketball, the SEC is the place to go.

Precisely why in this case the SEC has appeal. Florida, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt and Missouri plus Duke and North Carolina along with Georgia would be a comparable grouping. Even if Missouri headed back to a rebuilt Big 12 and Virginia took their place.

They'd have Kentucky and Florida to play annually and each other and would be bell cows for hoops only with SEC football level money funding them. And Tennessee is right next door for another nice hoops rivalry.

The Big 10 has plenty of academics and hoops and they might have more need of Virginia Tech and N.C. State which are both land grant schools I think.

It's an interesting prospect. And should ESPN gain full rights to the Big 12 surrounding them with solid to above average football makes all of them more money as well (Miami, F.S.U., Clemson, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Pittsburgh, plus possibly Missouri). It's a weird world moving forward. Who knows what is possible and what is not.

In the somewhat unlikely event that Carolina would join the SEC, I would imagine that the other team to join with the Heels (if 16 is the desired outcome) would be another team from Texas. The SEC needs another Texas team.
JR is almost correct on the alignment for the Heels. I could see a division of Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Missouri. The second Texas team would join A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, MSU, Alabama and Auburn.
Of course Texas would be the home run for the second Texas team, although Baylor or TCU could be serviceable. Texas Tech is out of the question.

Well X, it does cement both schools as unquestionably the top athletic program in each state, an issue only in doubt because of growing revenue concerns. A&M is duly relegated as Texas now has equal media money in addition to all other advantages and North Carolina couldn't be touched by any other program in the state due to doubling their media revenue and having the sustained access to all solid recruiting areas, including Texas.

When the downturn in higher ed is in full swing in a decade that branding advantage will be massive. So whether you consider it unlikely or not it would prove most sustainable. UT & UNC would be quite the coup and should a Vanderbilt opt out it still leaves room for a prominent private or an Oklahoma.

Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M

However, the above would be the likely lineup with Vanderbilt replacing OU should they decided to stay.

If Carolina goes to the SEC, NC State will go to the Big 10. Money will be a wash and it is easier to compete on the field against MD, Rutgers, Indiana, and Purdue. I think it is an advantage to be the southernmost school in the B10 versus the northeastern most school in the SEC. But that's me
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6,357 for golf???
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(05-03-2021 08:28 AM)esayem Wrote:  6,357 for golf???

That’s an awful lot of people getting beamed in the head.
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(05-03-2021 08:45 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(05-03-2021 08:28 AM)esayem Wrote:  6,357 for golf???

That’s an awful lot of people getting beamed in the head.

The first time I attempted to give a golf lesson to a woman who was under 5' 4" but with really big boobs, she hit me in the chest with a shanked ball. I was standing 10' behind her because I did not trust her swing to start with given the way she had to stand over the ball. She cold topped the damn thing and it hit me. I've seen people's ears split wide open, noses split wide open, and lips split wide open by golf balls. I once watched a person break out a window on a parked car when they shanked their tee shot off the ball washer and it careened back toward the parking lot.

That's not including what the pro-shop and golf cart boys do when no one is around and they are hitting shots off the sidewalk, inside the pro shop, in the cart shed, etc, etc.

Finally there are the thrown clubs that because of the weight on the end of the club cause the club to spin and hit the thrower.

I have even seen a person hit with the head of their own driver when the club broke at the hozzle but stayed attached with the whipping - it unraveled about 5 feet and then snapped back and hit him in the wrist.
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RE: Realignment Revenue Options
(05-03-2021 08:27 AM)Statefan Wrote:  
(05-02-2021 03:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-02-2021 02:26 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(04-30-2021 02:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-30-2021 02:09 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If they are looking to continue dominating basketball, the SEC is the place to go.

Precisely why in this case the SEC has appeal. Florida, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt and Missouri plus Duke and North Carolina along with Georgia would be a comparable grouping. Even if Missouri headed back to a rebuilt Big 12 and Virginia took their place.

They'd have Kentucky and Florida to play annually and each other and would be bell cows for hoops only with SEC football level money funding them. And Tennessee is right next door for another nice hoops rivalry.

The Big 10 has plenty of academics and hoops and they might have more need of Virginia Tech and N.C. State which are both land grant schools I think.

It's an interesting prospect. And should ESPN gain full rights to the Big 12 surrounding them with solid to above average football makes all of them more money as well (Miami, F.S.U., Clemson, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Pittsburgh, plus possibly Missouri). It's a weird world moving forward. Who knows what is possible and what is not.

In the somewhat unlikely event that Carolina would join the SEC, I would imagine that the other team to join with the Heels (if 16 is the desired outcome) would be another team from Texas. The SEC needs another Texas team.
JR is almost correct on the alignment for the Heels. I could see a division of Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Missouri. The second Texas team would join A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, MSU, Alabama and Auburn.
Of course Texas would be the home run for the second Texas team, although Baylor or TCU could be serviceable. Texas Tech is out of the question.

Well X, it does cement both schools as unquestionably the top athletic program in each state, an issue only in doubt because of growing revenue concerns. A&M is duly relegated as Texas now has equal media money in addition to all other advantages and North Carolina couldn't be touched by any other program in the state due to doubling their media revenue and having the sustained access to all solid recruiting areas, including Texas.

When the downturn in higher ed is in full swing in a decade that branding advantage will be massive. So whether you consider it unlikely or not it would prove most sustainable. UT & UNC would be quite the coup and should a Vanderbilt opt out it still leaves room for a prominent private or an Oklahoma.

Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M

However, the above would be the likely lineup with Vanderbilt replacing OU should they decided to stay.

If Carolina goes to the SEC, NC State will go to the Big 10. Money will be a wash and it is easier to compete on the field against MD, Rutgers, Indiana, and Purdue. I think it is an advantage to be the southernmost school in the B10 versus the northeastern most school in the SEC. But that's me

With out a doubt.
It would be easier and much less expensive to compete in the B1G than in the SEC.
Given Carolina and State's seating capacities, SEC traveling crowds would not significantly increase the gate at either school.
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RE: Realignment Revenue Options
(05-03-2021 08:57 AM)Statefan Wrote:  
(05-03-2021 08:45 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(05-03-2021 08:28 AM)esayem Wrote:  6,357 for golf???

That’s an awful lot of people getting beamed in the head.

The first time I attempted to give a golf lesson to a woman who was under 5' 4" but with really big boobs, she hit me in the chest with a shanked ball. I was standing 10' behind her because I did not trust her swing to start with given the way she had to stand over the ball. She cold topped the damn thing and it hit me. I've seen people's ears split wide open, noses split wide open, and lips split wide open by golf balls. I once watched a person break out a window on a parked car when they shanked their tee shot off the ball washer and it careened back toward the parking lot.

That's not including what the pro-shop and golf cart boys do when no one is around and they are hitting shots off the sidewalk, inside the pro shop, in the cart shed, etc, etc.

Finally there are the thrown clubs that because of the weight on the end of the club cause the club to spin and hit the thrower.

I have even seen a person hit with the head of their own driver when the club broke at the hozzle but stayed attached with the whipping - it unraveled about 5 feet and then snapped back and hit him in the wrist.

Your story reminded me of my friend who played at LSU in the early 90’s. She was/is gifted. Nicest set of…well I digress 04-bow. Anyway she grew up next door to Denny Crum.

Denny would ask her “how she could swing a club with those things hanging in from of her” …03-lmfao

Her Mom told me Denny would always ask to pair up with her when they played. Her Mom refused to allow it, calling him “an old dirty ba$tard”.

My friend was eventually First Team All SEC so those things didn’t cause any problems with her swing. 04-cheers
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I found that a tight bra helped this particular girl as well as getting her to swing them with her hips and not against her hip motion. It took me three lessons before I figured out the dynamics of how she was losing power with her swing, she had her boob heading one way and her hips toward the hole. Every prior girl was an athlete and moderate or flat chested. She could not get over the ball as close as I would have liked for her putting and that made her wrist something to work with.

She was gorgeous but I was too young myself to under that boobs could be too big. 04-cheers
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RE: Realignment Revenue Options
[quote='georgia_tech_swagger' pid='17394690' dateline='1619130158']
Using this data ultimately from the WSJ: https://csnbbs.com/thread-916418-post-17...id17265241

[quote]

Option 3: Westward expansion.
[quote]
Big 12
Texas / 31.3% of Conference Value / $112,680,000 value of media share (no T3)
Oklahoma / 25.0% of Conference Value / $90,000,000 value of media share (no T3)
Kansas St. / 7.8% of Conference Value / $28,080,000 value of media share
Oklahoma St. / 7.7% of Conference Value / $27,720,000 value of media share
Texas Tech / 6.9% of Conference Value / $24,840,000 value of media share
Kansas / 5.9% of Conference Value / $21,240,000 value of media share
T.C.U. / 5.4% of Conference Value / $19,440,000 value of media share
Iowa St. / 5.5% of Conference Value / $19,080,000 value of media share
Baylor / 3.0% of Conference Value / $10,800,000 value of media share
West Virginia / 1.7% of Conference Value / $6,120,000 value of media share

[/quote]

I am revisiting this. Big 12 schools other than Texas and OU have surprisingly low value.

In case Texas and OU leave for SEC, BIG, and/or Pac12 in 2025, would adding one or two of the remaining Texas schools help the ACC financially? It seems like TCU, Baylor, and Texas Tech’s value is lower than the median value of the ACC teams but having an access to Texas would justify the move?
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(05-10-2021 08:10 AM)random asian guy Wrote:  [quote='georgia_tech_swagger' pid='17394690' dateline='1619130158']
Using this data ultimately from the WSJ: https://csnbbs.com/thread-916418-post-17...id17265241

Quote:Option 3: Westward expansion.
[quote]
Big 12
Texas / 31.3% of Conference Value / $112,680,000 value of media share (no T3)
Oklahoma / 25.0% of Conference Value / $90,000,000 value of media share (no T3)
Kansas St. / 7.8% of Conference Value / $28,080,000 value of media share
Oklahoma St. / 7.7% of Conference Value / $27,720,000 value of media share
Texas Tech / 6.9% of Conference Value / $24,840,000 value of media share
Kansas / 5.9% of Conference Value / $21,240,000 value of media share
T.C.U. / 5.4% of Conference Value / $19,440,000 value of media share
Iowa St. / 5.5% of Conference Value / $19,080,000 value of media share
Baylor / 3.0% of Conference Value / $10,800,000 value of media share
West Virginia / 1.7% of Conference Value / $6,120,000 value of media share

I am revisiting this. Big 12 schools other than Texas and OU have surprisingly low value.

In case Texas and OU leave for SEC, BIG, and/or Pac12 in 2025, would adding one or two of the remaining Texas schools help the ACC financially? It seems like TCU, Baylor, and Texas Tech’s value is lower than the median value of the ACC teams but having an access to Texas would justify the move?

How are the values of each team calculated? Not saying it's wrong, just learned to question stuff like this over the years
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(05-03-2021 08:27 AM)Statefan Wrote:  
(05-02-2021 03:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-02-2021 02:26 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(04-30-2021 02:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-30-2021 02:09 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If they are looking to continue dominating basketball, the SEC is the place to go.

Precisely why in this case the SEC has appeal. Florida, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt and Missouri plus Duke and North Carolina along with Georgia would be a comparable grouping. Even if Missouri headed back to a rebuilt Big 12 and Virginia took their place.

They'd have Kentucky and Florida to play annually and each other and would be bell cows for hoops only with SEC football level money funding them. And Tennessee is right next door for another nice hoops rivalry.

The Big 10 has plenty of academics and hoops and they might have more need of Virginia Tech and N.C. State which are both land grant schools I think.

It's an interesting prospect. And should ESPN gain full rights to the Big 12 surrounding them with solid to above average football makes all of them more money as well (Miami, F.S.U., Clemson, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Pittsburgh, plus possibly Missouri). It's a weird world moving forward. Who knows what is possible and what is not.

In the somewhat unlikely event that Carolina would join the SEC, I would imagine that the other team to join with the Heels (if 16 is the desired outcome) would be another team from Texas. The SEC needs another Texas team.
JR is almost correct on the alignment for the Heels. I could see a division of Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Missouri. The second Texas team would join A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, MSU, Alabama and Auburn.
Of course Texas would be the home run for the second Texas team, although Baylor or TCU could be serviceable. Texas Tech is out of the question.

Well X, it does cement both schools as unquestionably the top athletic program in each state, an issue only in doubt because of growing revenue concerns. A&M is duly relegated as Texas now has equal media money in addition to all other advantages and North Carolina couldn't be touched by any other program in the state due to doubling their media revenue and having the sustained access to all solid recruiting areas, including Texas.

When the downturn in higher ed is in full swing in a decade that branding advantage will be massive. So whether you consider it unlikely or not it would prove most sustainable. UT & UNC would be quite the coup and should a Vanderbilt opt out it still leaves room for a prominent private or an Oklahoma.

Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M

However, the above would be the likely lineup with Vanderbilt replacing OU should they decided to stay.

If Carolina goes to the SEC, NC State will go to the Big 10. Money will be a wash and it is easier to compete on the field against MD, Rutgers, Indiana, and Purdue. I think it is an advantage to be the southernmost school in the B10 versus the northeastern most school in the SEC. But that's me

But what if UNC vetoed NCSU's move to the Big Ten for that very reason??? What would NC State do then???
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Carolina can, has, and likely will prevent us from moving if they do not move.

Carolina would not be able to swing that if they were moving to the SEC.
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Carolina can, has, and likely will prevent us from moving if they do not move.

Carolina would not be able to swing that if they were moving to the SEC.
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I think I see why now the SEC isn't too fond of poaching ACC teams now. If we grabbed UNC, the Big Ten would grab NCSU and make inroads into the South, the last thing that the SEC wants, and what every snowbird in NC does want.

A similar situation exists in the Big 12 where if the Big Ten takes Oklahoma, the SEC will take Texas, the last thing the Big Ten wants. A lot of chess is being played between the SEC and the Big Ten.
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(05-13-2021 11:37 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  How??

Here's the governance structure in NC:

1. NC General Assembly (a bunch of meddling piss ants)
2. UNC Board of Governors (a bunch of piss ants appointed by the GA, in the past these appointments were held mostly by UNC-Ch graduates and those beholden to UNC-Ch)
3. NCSU Board of Trustees (appointed by the above piss ants)
4. Chancellor - answers to BOT and UNC BOG System President
5. Centennial Authority (Basketball Arena and Parking)
5. Wolf Pack Club
6. Athletic Director

That's many, many places for UNC-Ch bankers, developers, hoteliers, politicians, lawyers, and media people to **** with NC State. They did it for decades. It's much less so now, but now anything NC State attempts to do is run through the economic development prism of NC, Wake County, City of Raleigh, Town of Cary, etc.

The powers that be will not allow NC State to "hurt" UNC-Ch. If we move without UNC to the B10 or SEC that will hurt UNC-Ch if they stay

We are like Chang and Eng Bunker.
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(05-14-2021 02:15 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  quote='Statefan' pid='17423563' dateline='1620952119']
Carolina can, has, and likely will prevent us from moving if they do not move.

Carolina would not be able to swing that if they were moving to the SEC.




I think I see why now the SEC isn't too fond of poaching ACC teams now. If we grabbed UNC, the Big Ten would grab NCSU and make inroads into the South, the last thing that the SEC wants, and what every snowbird in NC does want.

A similar situation exists in the Big 12 where if the Big Ten takes Oklahoma, the SEC will take Texas, the last thing the Big Ten wants. A lot of chess is being played between the SEC and the Big Ten.
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The SEC does not want to see some 2, 3 or 4 way combination of VT, UVa, UNC, NCSU, GT, FSU, and Miami in the Big 10.

Remember UNC-ch has no Engineering, Ag, Design, Architecture, Textiles/Fibers, or Vet program. From a head to toe comparison Pitt is most like other B10 schools, followed by UVa, NC State, VT, and UNC. GT is an anomaly of sorts but fully acceptable. Miami and FSU are located in Florida.

The greatest "value" to the B10 is VT, UNC, GT, and FSU but that's an impossible four way combination for a number of reasons. GT is indicative of a school that is worth the most in the B10, second most in the ACC, and third in the SEC. NC State and VT are of least value in the ACC and most value in the B10 or SEC.
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But that is precisely why Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas State, Baylor, West Virginia, and Texas Tech to the ACC and N.C. State, Virginia Tech, Kansas, and Texas Christian to the SEC would work.

The ACC would be picking up 2.6 billion or more in value, the SEC gains markets in Virginia and North Carolina while adding DFW and a hoops brand and rival of Missouri.

The Big 10 gains nothing, the ACC closes the revenue gap in a major way and we both move to 18.

If Wake and Vandy drop to partials then the SEC picks up OSU and the ACC picks up ISU, or vice versa.

SEC:
Florida, Georgia, N.C. State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia Tech

Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State

Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Texas Christian

* Vanderbilt

ACC:
Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Virginia

Boston College, Louisville, Miami, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, West Virginia

Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech

*Wake Forest & Notre Dame

Since the bulk of your conference schedule are the 5 schools in your division nobody has to play more than 2 road games in football which are at any great distance since with a 9 game conference schedule you would rotate 2 each from the other 2 divisions annually (2 home and 2 away). Everyone plays everyone else every 3 years (4 with allowances for N.D. and Wake's games) and you have a conference which would pay easily within 10 million of the Big 10 and SEC.

And all of it in house for ESPN.
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(05-14-2021 12:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  But that is precisely why Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas State, Baylor, West Virginia, and Texas Tech to the ACC and N.C. State, Virginia Tech, Kansas, and Texas Christian to the SEC would work.

The ACC would be picking up 2.6 billion or more in value, the SEC gains markets in Virginia and North Carolina while adding DFW and a hoops brand and rival of Missouri.

The Big 10 gains nothing, the ACC closes the revenue gap in a major way and we both move to 18.

If Wake and Vandy drop to partials then the SEC picks up OSU and the ACC picks up ISU, or vice versa.

SEC:
Florida, Georgia, N.C. State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia Tech

Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State

Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Texas Christian

* Vanderbilt

ACC:
Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Virginia

Boston College, Louisville, Miami, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, West Virginia

Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech

*Wake Forest & Notre Dame

Since the bulk of your conference schedule are the 5 schools in your division nobody has to play more than 2 road games in football which are at any great distance since with a 9 game conference schedule you would rotate 2 each from the other 2 divisions annually (2 home and 2 away). Everyone plays everyone else every 3 years (4 with allowances for N.D. and Wake's games) and you have a conference which would pay easily within 10 million of the Big 10 and SEC.

And all of it in house for ESPN.

Switch wake and duke football and you have a deal
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(05-14-2021 03:42 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(05-14-2021 12:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  But that is precisely why Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas State, Baylor, West Virginia, and Texas Tech to the ACC and N.C. State, Virginia Tech, Kansas, and Texas Christian to the SEC would work.

The ACC would be picking up 2.6 billion or more in value, the SEC gains markets in Virginia and North Carolina while adding DFW and a hoops brand and rival of Missouri.

The Big 10 gains nothing, the ACC closes the revenue gap in a major way and we both move to 18.

If Wake and Vandy drop to partials then the SEC picks up OSU and the ACC picks up ISU, or vice versa.

SEC:
Florida, Georgia, N.C. State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia Tech

Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State

Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Texas Christian

* Vanderbilt

ACC:
Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Virginia

Boston College, Louisville, Miami, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, West Virginia

Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech

*Wake Forest & Notre Dame

Since the bulk of your conference schedule are the 5 schools in your division nobody has to play more than 2 road games in football which are at any great distance since with a 9 game conference schedule you would rotate 2 each from the other 2 divisions annually (2 home and 2 away). Everyone plays everyone else every 3 years (4 with allowances for N.D. and Wake's games) and you have a conference which would pay easily within 10 million of the Big 10 and SEC.

And all of it in house for ESPN.

Switch wake and duke football and you have a deal

That would wholly be an ACC in house issue!07-coffee3
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(05-14-2021 12:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  But that is precisely why Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas State, Baylor, West Virginia, and Texas Tech to the ACC and N.C. State, Virginia Tech, Kansas, and Texas Christian to the SEC would work.

The ACC would be picking up 2.6 billion or more in value, the SEC gains markets in Virginia and North Carolina while adding DFW and a hoops brand and rival of Missouri.

The Big 10 gains nothing, the ACC closes the revenue gap in a major way and we both move to 18.

If Wake and Vandy drop to partials then the SEC picks up OSU and the ACC picks up ISU, or vice versa.

SEC:
Florida, Georgia, N.C. State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia Tech

Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State

Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Texas Christian

* Vanderbilt

ACC:
Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Virginia

Boston College, Louisville, Miami, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, West Virginia

Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech

*Wake Forest & Notre Dame

Since the bulk of your conference schedule are the 5 schools in your division nobody has to play more than 2 road games in football which are at any great distance since with a 9 game conference schedule you would rotate 2 each from the other 2 divisions annually (2 home and 2 away). Everyone plays everyone else every 3 years (4 with allowances for N.D. and Wake's games) and you have a conference which would pay easily within 10 million of the Big 10 and SEC.

And all of it in house for ESPN.

One would think even more value could be had if only five were moved.
Add Texas, Baylor, TCU,Texas Tech, and West Virginia to the ACC and shift Oklahoma, Kansas State and Iowa State to the SEC.
Texas and Oklahoma could still play the RRR as an OOC game and Texas would play even more of their schedule within the State of Texas.
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(05-14-2021 12:01 PM)Statefan Wrote:  GT is indicative of a school that is worth the most in the B10, second most in the ACC, and third in the SEC. NC State and VT are of least value in the ACC and most value in the B10 or SEC.


Depends on if new TV markets matter most or the gate, regionality, and demand for premium service delivery matters most.
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