mybe we can force the A5 to triple the amount of cfp payouts to the g5 by proposing a g5 break away and or a g5 playoffs

extortion is the name of the game...

They will laugh

(04-22-2021 03:39 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  They will laugh

mybe but nothing to lose, Aresco needs to play hard ball...

(04-22-2021 03:39 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  They will laugh

Like deep belly laughs.

i don’t like two mods gangging up on me here !

(04-22-2021 03:36 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  mybe we can force the A5 to triple the amount of cfp payouts to the g5 by proposing a g5 break away and or a g5 playoffs

extortion is the name of the game...

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Even if this would triple the CFP payouts, it wouldn't be worth the hassle; however, this is exactly the way that AAC and G5 fans have to start thinking if we're going to pull ourselves out from under the thumb of the P5 conferences.

Instead of continuing to quivering and living in fear about the P5's threats to split off from the NCAA, the G5 and FBS independents should discuss ways to put the power of their own considerable viewership to good use.

--For example, they could discuss the benefits of setting up a contingency plan that they could implement if the only way to get a response from the NCAA or P5 is by moving toward setting up an autonomous FBS cartel of their own.

In several respects, the G5 is the American Football League of the 2020s.

The only way any organization can get anywhere in this country is to take effective action and play hardball when needed.

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(04-22-2021 03:36 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  mybe we can force the A5 to triple the amount of cfp payouts to the g5 by proposing a g5 break away and or a g5 playoffs

extortion is the name of the game...

Extortion should always be in play/an option

(04-22-2021 03:36 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  mybe we can force the A5 to triple the amount of cfp payouts to the g5 by proposing a g5 break away and or a g5 playoffs

extortion is the name of the game...

The A5 schools would love for the G5 to split from the CFP lol

(04-22-2021 04:12 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 03:36 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  mybe we can force the A5 to triple the amount of cfp payouts to the g5 by proposing a g5 break away and or a g5 playoffs

extortion is the name of the game...

The A5 schools would love for the G5 to split from the CFP lol

Nope. You haven't quite "grokked" the idea yet. The purpose of letting it be known that they're holding meetings to discuss their options for leveraging their viewership would be 1,000 times more nuanced than that.

The idea isn't to immediately split from the NCAA or from the CFP, but by proving that it is prepared to go independent if it has to, it can begin to leverage its potential to do things such as securing a slot in an expanded CFP, preventing the P5 conferences from taking 3/4 of the at-large bids, and perhaps even pursuing autonomous status.

The P5 has been making threats and leveraging their power over the past decade, and it has gotten them plenty. It's simply time for the G5 conferences to make the first few moves needed to begin to prove their ability to do the same.

The total enrollment of the G5s and FBS independents is approximately the same as that of the P5 schools, and their viewership has been increasing steadily, as has the number of non-P5 FBS teams in the Final top 25 lists over the past 6 years.

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Oh look, JHS55 is proposing that we break away again.



USFFan

(04-22-2021 04:11 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 03:36 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  mybe we can force the A5 to triple the amount of cfp payouts to the g5 by proposing a g5 break away and or a g5 playoffs

extortion is the name of the game...

Extortion should always be in play/an option

Can we get pics of them with hookers and blow?

(04-22-2021 04:39 PM)usffan Wrote:  Oh look, JHS55 is proposing that we break away again.

USFFan

Not exactly. You're oversimplifying what he's written. What he's suggesting is a lot more subtle than what you seem to think he's suggesting.

What he suggested was that perhaps the G5 should propose the idea of breaking away in order to get something closer to equal treatment.

That's how people leverage their power.

It's like, if you get a job offer, you could just take the job with no questions asked about your salary or working conditions and not even try to leverage your other options, or you could make it clear that you have other options and won't necessarily take the gig if the compensation and working conditions aren't satisfactory, thus leveraging the power that you have in that situation.

The second option is usually the only way to get a better offer more effective than the first if one handles the situation deftly enough, because it at least demonstrates that you're not desperate to take the gig and puts one into a potential negotiating situation that one otherwise wouldn't be in.

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(04-22-2021 04:55 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 04:39 PM)usffan Wrote:  Oh look, JHS55 is proposing that we break away again.

USFFan

Not exactly. You're oversimplifying what he's written. What he's suggesting is a lot more subtle than what you seem to think he's suggesting.

What he suggested was that perhaps the G5 should propose the idea of breaking away in order to get something closer to equal treatment.

That's how people leverage their power.

It's like, if you get a job offer, you could just take the job with no questions asked about your salary or working conditions and not even try to leverage your other options, or you could make it clear that you have other options and won't necessarily take the gig if the compensation and working conditions aren't satisfactory, thus leveraging the power that you have in that situation.

The second option is usually the only way to get a better offer more effective than the first if one handles the situation deftly enough, because it at least demonstrates that you're not desperate to take the gig and puts one into a potential negotiating situation that one otherwise wouldn't be in.

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This isn't exactly new ground here...

https://csnbbs.com/thread-894687-post-16...id16690018

(02-20-2020 09:45 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  I’d like to see a g5 playoff sometime soon but not just yet
If the g5 were offered a big chunk of money to do a real playoff “ ( conference champions and some wild cards, no committee)”, mybe this would change the minds of y’all naysayers
Throw in the fact that the A5 has a predetermined champion with their committee and we play at the same time on our network I think it has a great chance to showcase our better playoff product
I think a g5 split from the NCAA is a must, we need to make our own rules, set our own scholarship limits and all those kind of things

USFFan

It would take a unified approach from the non autonomous group (G5/Indy) wherein schools would refuse to schedule the A5 OOC. This would never happen, as many schools rely on the revenue from those buy games to run their athletic department. What’s more, the MAC is in bed with the B10 so they would never agree to it.

(04-22-2021 05:07 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 04:55 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 04:39 PM)usffan Wrote:  Oh look, JHS55 is proposing that we break away again.

USFFan

Not exactly. You're oversimplifying what he's written. What he's suggesting is a lot more subtle than what you seem to think he's suggesting.

What he suggested was that perhaps the G5 should propose the idea of breaking away in order to get something closer to equal treatment.

That's how people leverage their power.

It's like, if you get a job offer, you could just take the job with no questions asked about your salary or working conditions and not even try to leverage your other options, or you could make it clear that you have other options and won't necessarily take the gig if the compensation and working conditions aren't satisfactory, thus leveraging the power that you have in that situation.

The second option is usually the only way to get a better offer more effective than the first if one handles the situation deftly enough, because it at least demonstrates that you're not desperate to take the gig and puts one into a potential negotiating situation that one otherwise wouldn't be in.

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This isn't exactly new ground here...

https://csnbbs.com/thread-894687-post-16...id16690018

(02-20-2020 09:45 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  I’d like to see a g5 playoff sometime soon but not just yet
If the g5 were offered a big chunk of money to do a real playoff “ ( conference champions and some wild cards, no committee)”, mybe this would change the minds of y’all naysayers
Throw in the fact that the A5 has a predetermined champion with their committee and we play at the same time on our network I think it has a great chance to showcase our better playoff product
I think a g5 split from the NCAA is a must, we need to make our own rules, set our own scholarship limits and all those kind of things

USFFan

oh gosh, now iam being quoted...
i stand by my reposted statement usffan, it’s a bucket list for sure
at least jed clampet understands me...

if we could find a way to squeeze more money from the A5 and espin it would be great, be a BIG thorn in their side, make them as uncomfortable as possible
mybe sue them in court , whatever, Aresco needs to do it and stop being a tool...

(04-22-2021 04:55 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 04:11 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 03:36 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  mybe we can force the A5 to triple the amount of cfp payouts to the g5 by proposing a g5 break away and or a g5 playoffs

extortion is the name of the game...

Extortion should always be in play/an option

Can we get pics of them with hookers and blow?

now that’s the idea, so do you have any pictures?
i’ll contact “ project veritas “ pronto...

(04-22-2021 06:19 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  at least jed clampet understands me...

This is def. a candidate for addition to my sig.. Classic.

(04-22-2021 05:40 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  It would take a unified approach from the non autonomous group (G5/Indy)

Yes, a unified approach would be required.

Quote:wherein schools would refuse to schedule the A5 OOC.

Incorrect. There would be a very wide range of options available to them if they decide to band together and work for their common good.

Moreover, the simple decision to work together, all by itself, would have a very powerful impact, due to the potential leverage that teaming up would give them - - many times the leverage that any one conference can employ.

If two conferences were to band together for the purpose of negotiating a deal, their collective leverage would be doubled. If five conferences plus the FBS independents were to band together, their leverage would increase at least five-to-sixfold, but as is often the case, the whole (total leverage) would be greater than the sum of its parts (the leverage of the individual conferences). Quite possibly, they would have ten times as much leverage (negotiating power) as they have as individual conferences.

BTW, leveraging their power as a group is precisely how the P5 achieved their autonomous and power conference status.

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(04-22-2021 07:08 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 06:19 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  at least jed clampet understands me...

This is def. a candidate for addition to my sig.. Classic.

i don’t know what this means...^^^
jed and i think alike...we see the writing on the wall... and we don’t like it

(04-22-2021 08:10 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 07:08 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(04-22-2021 06:19 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  at least jed clampet understands me...

This is def. a candidate for addition to my sig.. Classic.

i don’t know what this means...^^^
jed and i think alike...we see the writing on the wall... and we don’t like it

It's snark, but from the tone and quality of his writing, I'm guessing that he's about 15 years old, so not to worry. He's been blasted repeatedly by the moderators, and I put him on my ignore list weeks ago.