RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-13-2021 06:24 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:
(04-13-2021 05:43 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(04-13-2021 05:02 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote: I said afford.. UCONN had a 42M deficit bc you can't support an AAC required lifestyle. I hope UCF is not paying UCONN more than FCS bc that's our fan's interest in UCONN. Heck HBCU would bring more interest and a good halftime show.
UCF is paying UConn a cool million. Edsall’s salary is like 1.2 million, so that game alone practically pays his salary. Thanks!
I was going to come back with a "How much is UConn paying Houston?" but in looking for that, found some other interesting info...
From the Vanderbilt 247 site (some interesting pieces bolded):
Quote:Vanderbilt announced a change to its 2021 football schedule on Wednesday, as the Commodores will no longer host Houston on Oct. 2. Instead, Connecticut will replace the Cougars on Vanderbilt’s schedule — the game will also take place on Oct. 2, according to a copy of the contract obtained by Vandy247 from the University of Connecticut via open records laws.
The game will not be part of a series and is instead a one-off matchup. But according to the contract, Vanderbilt will not pay UConn to come to Nashville. Opponents for nonconference "buy games" typically receive substantial payments that sometimes exceed $1 million. The contract was signed on July 14 and the buyout for the game will be $1 million.
UConn will join East Tennessee State, Colorado State and Stanford on Vanderbilt’s 2021 nonconference schedule, while Mississippi State will be the Commodores’ rotating SEC opponent. SEC teams are required to play at least one nonconference opponent from the Power Five conferences or the American Athletic Conference, which Houston satisfied when the series was scheduled. Vanderbilt then added Stanford and thus could replace Houston with any FBS opponent.
An impressive part of Benedict's work on the 2020 schedule was wheeling and dealing to get teams to cancel games, then scheduling both of them. Creative, and at the end of the day, effective. Built something from nothing. Didn't help the football deficit, but then canceling the 2020 season saved the department some money.
Then UConn not getting a payday from Vandy.
Is Houston getting paid twice for this? Buyout from the 'Dores, and buy game from the Huskies?
Then the note I hadn't seen before -- AAC opponents satisfy the SEC internal requirement for a power opponent among the four OOC games. (A quick review - the contract-bowl conferences having these rules for OOC scheduling are about providing their tv partners more content of quality and fewer duds against the little sisters of the poor. The SEC stayed at eight conference games, because several teams have in-state rivalry games vs ACC that are hard enough, but this rule brings the others to a level playing field. Of course they all still play an FCS opponent; UF recently played two FCS opponents in a season, looking like Army, ha ha.) UConn then becomes "any FBS opponent."
Yes UCONN had to get multiple teams to break up their schedules for multiple years just to have a schedule for the early years, which is why the schedule isn't that appealing for 2020 and 2021. Multiple teams stepped up (including Vandy and Houston etc.) so UCONN owes these teams.
Going forward, this should not be an issue though. The future schedule should look much better. Like I said, expect at least 4 P5 teams per year in the future. A schedule with 4 or more P5 with BYU type of teams should be interesting and good for the fanbase.
(This post was last modified: 04-13-2021 07:50 PM by SF Husky.)
RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-13-2021 07:57 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:
(04-12-2021 03:21 PM)vick mike Wrote:
(04-12-2021 12:13 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:
(04-12-2021 11:56 AM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-12-2021 09:44 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: 1st, no surprise that a Connecticut-based web site says UConn was one of the ACC's top targets...
Didn't want to keep going with this, but you are certainly clueless. The story wasn't from a CT newspaper, it was in the Boston Globe ...
Seriously, dude, what's the difference. It's all Northeast.
Geo, between you and me, its actually all New England.
So the OP links to an article at CTPost.com and says that's NOT a CT newspaper?
Odd then that it's named for - and located in - Connecticut!
Quote:Mailing Address
Connecticut Post
Business Offices- 301 Merritt 7 - Suite 1, Norwalk, CT 06851-1075
Phone: 203-842-2500
News Bureau - 1057 Broad St. Bridgeport, CT 06604
Phone: 203-330-6248
But who am I - just a lowly Hokie whose alma mater had to strong-arm its way into the ACC.
The CT paper referenced a huge story that was published by Boston Globe. The original author was Mark Blaudschun, who is a BCU insider. He broke the story that BCU blocked UCONN into the ACC while BCU AD at the time was bragging about it. The BCU AD at the time was sitting on the ACC expansion committee, and he got the committee to take Pitt instead of UCONN.
RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-13-2021 07:49 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-13-2021 06:24 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:
(04-13-2021 05:43 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(04-13-2021 05:02 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote: I said afford.. UCONN had a 42M deficit bc you can't support an AAC required lifestyle. I hope UCF is not paying UCONN more than FCS bc that's our fan's interest in UCONN. Heck HBCU would bring more interest and a good halftime show.
UCF is paying UConn a cool million. Edsall’s salary is like 1.2 million, so that game alone practically pays his salary. Thanks!
I was going to come back with a "How much is UConn paying Houston?" but in looking for that, found some other interesting info...
From the Vanderbilt 247 site (some interesting pieces bolded):
Quote:Vanderbilt announced a change to its 2021 football schedule on Wednesday, as the Commodores will no longer host Houston on Oct. 2. Instead, Connecticut will replace the Cougars on Vanderbilt’s schedule — the game will also take place on Oct. 2, according to a copy of the contract obtained by Vandy247 from the University of Connecticut via open records laws.
The game will not be part of a series and is instead a one-off matchup. But according to the contract, Vanderbilt will not pay UConn to come to Nashville. Opponents for nonconference "buy games" typically receive substantial payments that sometimes exceed $1 million. The contract was signed on July 14 and the buyout for the game will be $1 million.
UConn will join East Tennessee State, Colorado State and Stanford on Vanderbilt’s 2021 nonconference schedule, while Mississippi State will be the Commodores’ rotating SEC opponent. SEC teams are required to play at least one nonconference opponent from the Power Five conferences or the American Athletic Conference, which Houston satisfied when the series was scheduled. Vanderbilt then added Stanford and thus could replace Houston with any FBS opponent.
An impressive part of Benedict's work on the 2020 schedule was wheeling and dealing to get teams to cancel games, then scheduling both of them. Creative, and at the end of the day, effective. Built something from nothing. Didn't help the football deficit, but then canceling the 2020 season saved the department some money.
Then UConn not getting a payday from Vandy.
Is Houston getting paid twice for this? Buyout from the 'Dores, and buy game from the Huskies?
Then the note I hadn't seen before -- AAC opponents satisfy the SEC internal requirement for a power opponent among the four OOC games. (A quick review - the contract-bowl conferences having these rules for OOC scheduling are about providing their tv partners more content of quality and fewer duds against the little sisters of the poor. The SEC stayed at eight conference games, because several teams have in-state rivalry games vs ACC that are hard enough, but this rule brings the others to a level playing field. Of course they all still play an FCS opponent; UF recently played two FCS opponents in a season, looking like Army, ha ha.) UConn then becomes "any FBS opponent."
Yes UCONN had to get multiple teams to break up their schedules for multiple years just to have a schedule for the early years, which is why the schedule isn't that appealing for 2020 and 2021. Multiple teams stepped up (including Vandy and Houston etc.) so UCONN owes these teams.
Going forward, this should not be an issue though. The future schedule should look much better. Like I said, expect at least 4 P5 teams per year in the future. A schedule with 4 or more P5 with BYU type of teams should be interesting and good for the fanbase.
Once scheduling opens up down the road UConn should be able to schedule half of its games rotating regional P5 schools Syracuse, Rutgers, Maryland, and Pitt through the process, rotating Temple and a few other AAC schools through the process, rotating 1-2 FCS through the process, and keeping UMASS, Liberty, and Army on the schedule on a regular basis. If UConn fills in with 2 body bag games for money, other independents BYU and NMST where possible, most of the future schedules can be completed with 2 or 3 other opponents. UConn might also be able to entice other lower P5 schools to home and home schedules by offering a few Men's and Women's BB games in the scheduling as long as they remain the strength and backbone of their sports programs.
(This post was last modified: 04-15-2021 08:32 AM by panite.)
RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-15-2021 08:31 AM)panite Wrote:
(04-13-2021 07:49 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-13-2021 06:24 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:
(04-13-2021 05:43 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(04-13-2021 05:02 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote: I said afford.. UCONN had a 42M deficit bc you can't support an AAC required lifestyle. I hope UCF is not paying UCONN more than FCS bc that's our fan's interest in UCONN. Heck HBCU would bring more interest and a good halftime show.
UCF is paying UConn a cool million. Edsall’s salary is like 1.2 million, so that game alone practically pays his salary. Thanks!
I was going to come back with a "How much is UConn paying Houston?" but in looking for that, found some other interesting info...
From the Vanderbilt 247 site (some interesting pieces bolded):
Quote:Vanderbilt announced a change to its 2021 football schedule on Wednesday, as the Commodores will no longer host Houston on Oct. 2. Instead, Connecticut will replace the Cougars on Vanderbilt’s schedule — the game will also take place on Oct. 2, according to a copy of the contract obtained by Vandy247 from the University of Connecticut via open records laws.
The game will not be part of a series and is instead a one-off matchup. But according to the contract, Vanderbilt will not pay UConn to come to Nashville. Opponents for nonconference "buy games" typically receive substantial payments that sometimes exceed $1 million. The contract was signed on July 14 and the buyout for the game will be $1 million.
UConn will join East Tennessee State, Colorado State and Stanford on Vanderbilt’s 2021 nonconference schedule, while Mississippi State will be the Commodores’ rotating SEC opponent. SEC teams are required to play at least one nonconference opponent from the Power Five conferences or the American Athletic Conference, which Houston satisfied when the series was scheduled. Vanderbilt then added Stanford and thus could replace Houston with any FBS opponent.
An impressive part of Benedict's work on the 2020 schedule was wheeling and dealing to get teams to cancel games, then scheduling both of them. Creative, and at the end of the day, effective. Built something from nothing. Didn't help the football deficit, but then canceling the 2020 season saved the department some money.
Then UConn not getting a payday from Vandy.
Is Houston getting paid twice for this? Buyout from the 'Dores, and buy game from the Huskies?
Then the note I hadn't seen before -- AAC opponents satisfy the SEC internal requirement for a power opponent among the four OOC games. (A quick review - the contract-bowl conferences having these rules for OOC scheduling are about providing their tv partners more content of quality and fewer duds against the little sisters of the poor. The SEC stayed at eight conference games, because several teams have in-state rivalry games vs ACC that are hard enough, but this rule brings the others to a level playing field. Of course they all still play an FCS opponent; UF recently played two FCS opponents in a season, looking like Army, ha ha.) UConn then becomes "any FBS opponent."
Yes UCONN had to get multiple teams to break up their schedules for multiple years just to have a schedule for the early years, which is why the schedule isn't that appealing for 2020 and 2021. Multiple teams stepped up (including Vandy and Houston etc.) so UCONN owes these teams.
Going forward, this should not be an issue though. The future schedule should look much better. Like I said, expect at least 4 P5 teams per year in the future. A schedule with 4 or more P5 with BYU type of teams should be interesting and good for the fanbase.
Once scheduling opens up down the road UConn should be able to schedule half of its games rotating regional P5 schools Syracuse, Rutgers, Maryland, and Pitt through the process, rotating Temple and a few other AAC schools through the process, rotating 1-2 FCS through the process, and keeping UMASS, Liberty, and Army on the schedule on a regular basis. If UConn fills in with 2 body bag games for money, other independents BYU and NMST where possible, most of the future schedules can be completed with 2 or 3 other opponents. UConn might also be able to entice other lower P5 schools to home and home schedules by offering a few Men's and Women's BB games in the scheduling as long as they remain the strength and backbone of their sports programs.
I want to date the semi-hot chick but she said that her parents told her if she goes out that she has to take her lil brother with her wherever she goes as a tag-along.
RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-15-2021 08:31 AM)panite Wrote: Once scheduling opens up down the road UConn should be able to schedule half of its games rotating regional P5 schools Syracuse, Rutgers, Maryland, and Pitt through the process, rotating Temple and a few other AAC schools through the process, rotating 1-2 FCS through the process, and keeping UMASS, Liberty, and Army on the schedule on a regular basis. If UConn fills in with 2 body bag games for money, other independents BYU and NMST where possible, most of the future schedules can be completed with 2 or 3 other opponents. UConn might also be able to entice other lower P5 schools to home and home schedules by offering a few Men's and Women's BB games in the scheduling as long as they remain the strength and backbone of their sports programs.
Do agree with parts of your post, but the bolded part is simply not true at all. UCONN has no problem scheduling P5 schools mid-tier or not. There is no need for basketball programs to be involved, but for some schools, it makes sense for both sides.
UCONN has played a home and home (actual 1-on-1) series with Michigan. UCONN also had a home and home (1 on 1) against Tenn before it was recently changed to 1 off. UCONN needs some of those 1 off games now due to scheduling challenges on short notice and also for payment. When has any G5 school got a 1 on 1 series with schools like Michigan?
UCONN never had any problem scheduling 1 on 1 series with just about all the P5 schools. If you bother to read the article I posted, UCONN is already on par scheduling P5s similar to BYU, which is far ahead of other indies or any G5s. To claim UCONN only can schedule lower-tier P5s, and have to throw in basketball schedules, is just flat out untrue.
Also, B1G considers scheduling UCONN for its conference schools similar to non-conference P5s. This is also different than just about all the G5 schools.
(This post was last modified: 04-15-2021 12:45 PM by SF Husky.)
RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-13-2021 01:57 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-13-2021 12:17 PM)The Grape King Wrote: Temple did the same thing when it got booted from the Big East, scheduled big time programs the two years as an independent. They went 1-22 in 2005 and 2006, playing teams like Louisville, Penn State, Clemson, Wisconsin, Arizona State, Miami. They lost 62-0 back to back weeks one year. I wasn't around in those days, but the sense I get from older Temple folks was that those were the darkest days of the football program that was on the verge of being axed before the move to the MAC and the hiring of Al Golden.
You can compare schedules to BYU all you want, UConn isn't BYU. They're gonna schedule body bag games until either someone let's them in as a football only, whether it's FBS or FCS, or until they cut their losses and can football completely. For a school that already doesn't care about football, dumping money into a program that's winning one or two games a year and getting thumped by P5s on a regular basis is gonna get old very quick.
Why would you even want to maintain FBS status at that point? How is it better as a fan or for the school to lose double figure games every year as an FBS independent instead of heading to the Colonial and playing competitive(ish) football? UConn is playing for nothing as things stand now. I'd be much more inclined to support TU football as an FCS program than I would've been in those independent years. Spin it however you want. We've been there and done that with the big time independent schedule, and it almost cost Temple its program.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I remember Temple in the Big East very well. Temple was a dump. Your administration did nothing for the football program. Temple was kicked out of the Big East cause it did no investment into the program while collecting Big East payouts.
Comparing UCONN to Temple is simply laughable. UCONN has top-notch football facilities while Temple does not, and it has a stadium dedicated to its football program while Temple rents from the Eagles. Also, UCONN has made plenty of investment into the program while Temple didn't. While Temple never drew fans, UCONN sold out its stadium many times when it was winning. UCONN also won multiple Big East championships in football before, so please don't compare where Temple was even with UCONN today.
The only thing UCONN needs to do today is winning some games. Edsall won at UCONN before, but whether he is the right coach is still debatable. All we do know is UCONN hired two horrible coaches (Coach P and Diaco) that set the program back multiple years. Can Edsall recover? It is hard to say, but he has won here before. Once UCONN can win again, there is little doubt CT fans will come back especially with the new indy schedule.
Considering Temple rolled you guys by 50 and plunged the final nail into UConn's football coffin last time they played, yes, I'd say it's laughable to compare the programs.
You call a high school stadium an hour from campus in the Hartford suburbs "top notch"? You guys really are completely out of your minds.
RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-15-2021 12:41 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-15-2021 08:31 AM)panite Wrote: Once scheduling opens up down the road UConn should be able to schedule half of its games rotating regional P5 schools Syracuse, Rutgers, Maryland, and Pitt through the process, rotating Temple and a few other AAC schools through the process, rotating 1-2 FCS through the process, and keeping UMASS, Liberty, and Army on the schedule on a regular basis. If UConn fills in with 2 body bag games for money, other independents BYU and NMST where possible, most of the future schedules can be completed with 2 or 3 other opponents. UConn might also be able to entice other lower P5 schools to home and home schedules by offering a few Men's and Women's BB games in the scheduling as long as they remain the strength and backbone of their sports programs.
Do agree with parts of your post, but the bolded part is simply not true at all. UCONN has no problem scheduling P5 schools mid-tier or not. There is no need for basketball programs to be involved, but for some schools, it makes sense for both sides.
UCONN has played a home and home (actual 1-on-1) series with Michigan. UCONN also had a home and home (1 on 1) against Tenn before it was recently changed to 1 off. UCONN needs some of those 1 off games now due to scheduling challenges on short notice and also for payment. When has any G5 school got a 1 on 1 series with schools like Michigan?
UCONN never had any problem scheduling 1 on 1 series with just about all the P5 schools. If you bother to read the article I posted, UCONN is already on par scheduling P5s similar to BYU, which is far ahead of other indies or any G5s. To claim UCONN only can schedule lower-tier P5s, and have to throw in basketball schedules, is just flat out untrue.
Also, B1G considers scheduling UCONN for its conference schools similar to non-conference P5s. This is also different than just about all the G5 schools.
That last paragraph was just for a few years, so B10 teams could meet guidelines for OOC they had in place at the time (they have since removed those guidelines). FWIW Cincinnati fell in that same category too.
RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-15-2021 02:48 PM)The Grape King Wrote:
(04-13-2021 01:57 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-13-2021 12:17 PM)The Grape King Wrote: Temple did the same thing when it got booted from the Big East, scheduled big time programs the two years as an independent. They went 1-22 in 2005 and 2006, playing teams like Louisville, Penn State, Clemson, Wisconsin, Arizona State, Miami. They lost 62-0 back to back weeks one year. I wasn't around in those days, but the sense I get from older Temple folks was that those were the darkest days of the football program that was on the verge of being axed before the move to the MAC and the hiring of Al Golden.
You can compare schedules to BYU all you want, UConn isn't BYU. They're gonna schedule body bag games until either someone let's them in as a football only, whether it's FBS or FCS, or until they cut their losses and can football completely. For a school that already doesn't care about football, dumping money into a program that's winning one or two games a year and getting thumped by P5s on a regular basis is gonna get old very quick.
Why would you even want to maintain FBS status at that point? How is it better as a fan or for the school to lose double figure games every year as an FBS independent instead of heading to the Colonial and playing competitive(ish) football? UConn is playing for nothing as things stand now. I'd be much more inclined to support TU football as an FCS program than I would've been in those independent years. Spin it however you want. We've been there and done that with the big time independent schedule, and it almost cost Temple its program.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I remember Temple in the Big East very well. Temple was a dump. Your administration did nothing for the football program. Temple was kicked out of the Big East cause it did no investment into the program while collecting Big East payouts.
Comparing UCONN to Temple is simply laughable. UCONN has top-notch football facilities while Temple does not, and it has a stadium dedicated to its football program while Temple rents from the Eagles. Also, UCONN has made plenty of investment into the program while Temple didn't. While Temple never drew fans, UCONN sold out its stadium many times when it was winning. UCONN also won multiple Big East championships in football before, so please don't compare where Temple was even with UCONN today.
The only thing UCONN needs to do today is winning some games. Edsall won at UCONN before, but whether he is the right coach is still debatable. All we do know is UCONN hired two horrible coaches (Coach P and Diaco) that set the program back multiple years. Can Edsall recover? It is hard to say, but he has won here before. Once UCONN can win again, there is little doubt CT fans will come back especially with the new indy schedule.
Considering Temple rolled you guys by 50 and plunged the final nail into UConn's football coffin last time they played, yes, I'd say it's laughable to compare the programs.
You call a high school stadium an hour from campus in the Hartford suburbs "top notch"? You guys really are completely out of your minds.
As if recent scores got anything to do with the state of the program. Hint: it is much more than winning and losing. Calling UCONN's stadium a high school stadium shows you have no clue what you are talking about.
Sorry but Temple is not in the same league as UCONN, and it is not even close.
RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-15-2021 05:13 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-15-2021 02:48 PM)The Grape King Wrote:
(04-13-2021 01:57 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-13-2021 12:17 PM)The Grape King Wrote: Temple did the same thing when it got booted from the Big East, scheduled big time programs the two years as an independent. They went 1-22 in 2005 and 2006, playing teams like Louisville, Penn State, Clemson, Wisconsin, Arizona State, Miami. They lost 62-0 back to back weeks one year. I wasn't around in those days, but the sense I get from older Temple folks was that those were the darkest days of the football program that was on the verge of being axed before the move to the MAC and the hiring of Al Golden.
You can compare schedules to BYU all you want, UConn isn't BYU. They're gonna schedule body bag games until either someone let's them in as a football only, whether it's FBS or FCS, or until they cut their losses and can football completely. For a school that already doesn't care about football, dumping money into a program that's winning one or two games a year and getting thumped by P5s on a regular basis is gonna get old very quick.
Why would you even want to maintain FBS status at that point? How is it better as a fan or for the school to lose double figure games every year as an FBS independent instead of heading to the Colonial and playing competitive(ish) football? UConn is playing for nothing as things stand now. I'd be much more inclined to support TU football as an FCS program than I would've been in those independent years. Spin it however you want. We've been there and done that with the big time independent schedule, and it almost cost Temple its program.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I remember Temple in the Big East very well. Temple was a dump. Your administration did nothing for the football program. Temple was kicked out of the Big East cause it did no investment into the program while collecting Big East payouts.
Comparing UCONN to Temple is simply laughable. UCONN has top-notch football facilities while Temple does not, and it has a stadium dedicated to its football program while Temple rents from the Eagles. Also, UCONN has made plenty of investment into the program while Temple didn't. While Temple never drew fans, UCONN sold out its stadium many times when it was winning. UCONN also won multiple Big East championships in football before, so please don't compare where Temple was even with UCONN today.
The only thing UCONN needs to do today is winning some games. Edsall won at UCONN before, but whether he is the right coach is still debatable. All we do know is UCONN hired two horrible coaches (Coach P and Diaco) that set the program back multiple years. Can Edsall recover? It is hard to say, but he has won here before. Once UCONN can win again, there is little doubt CT fans will come back especially with the new indy schedule.
Considering Temple rolled you guys by 50 and plunged the final nail into UConn's football coffin last time they played, yes, I'd say it's laughable to compare the programs.
You call a high school stadium an hour from campus in the Hartford suburbs "top notch"? You guys really are completely out of your minds.
As if recent scores got anything to do with the state of the program. Hint: it is much more than winning and losing. Calling UCONN's stadium a high school stadium shows you have no clue what you are talking about.
Sorry but Temple is not in the same league as UCONN, and it is not even close.
RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-15-2021 05:13 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-15-2021 02:48 PM)The Grape King Wrote:
(04-13-2021 01:57 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-13-2021 12:17 PM)The Grape King Wrote: Temple did the same thing when it got booted from the Big East, scheduled big time programs the two years as an independent. They went 1-22 in 2005 and 2006, playing teams like Louisville, Penn State, Clemson, Wisconsin, Arizona State, Miami. They lost 62-0 back to back weeks one year. I wasn't around in those days, but the sense I get from older Temple folks was that those were the darkest days of the football program that was on the verge of being axed before the move to the MAC and the hiring of Al Golden.
You can compare schedules to BYU all you want, UConn isn't BYU. They're gonna schedule body bag games until either someone let's them in as a football only, whether it's FBS or FCS, or until they cut their losses and can football completely. For a school that already doesn't care about football, dumping money into a program that's winning one or two games a year and getting thumped by P5s on a regular basis is gonna get old very quick.
Why would you even want to maintain FBS status at that point? How is it better as a fan or for the school to lose double figure games every year as an FBS independent instead of heading to the Colonial and playing competitive(ish) football? UConn is playing for nothing as things stand now. I'd be much more inclined to support TU football as an FCS program than I would've been in those independent years. Spin it however you want. We've been there and done that with the big time independent schedule, and it almost cost Temple its program.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I remember Temple in the Big East very well. Temple was a dump. Your administration did nothing for the football program. Temple was kicked out of the Big East cause it did no investment into the program while collecting Big East payouts.
Comparing UCONN to Temple is simply laughable. UCONN has top-notch football facilities while Temple does not, and it has a stadium dedicated to its football program while Temple rents from the Eagles. Also, UCONN has made plenty of investment into the program while Temple didn't. While Temple never drew fans, UCONN sold out its stadium many times when it was winning. UCONN also won multiple Big East championships in football before, so please don't compare where Temple was even with UCONN today.
The only thing UCONN needs to do today is winning some games. Edsall won at UCONN before, but whether he is the right coach is still debatable. All we do know is UCONN hired two horrible coaches (Coach P and Diaco) that set the program back multiple years. Can Edsall recover? It is hard to say, but he has won here before. Once UCONN can win again, there is little doubt CT fans will come back especially with the new indy schedule.
Considering Temple rolled you guys by 50 and plunged the final nail into UConn's football coffin last time they played, yes, I'd say it's laughable to compare the programs.
You call a high school stadium an hour from campus in the Hartford suburbs "top notch"? You guys really are completely out of your minds.
As if recent scores got anything to do with the state of the program. Hint: it is much more than winning and losing. Calling UCONN's stadium a high school stadium shows you have no clue what you are talking about.
It's not a high school stadium. It only seems that way to some people in comparison with Temple's (high-end NFL) home stadium.
(04-15-2021 05:13 PM)SF Husky Wrote: Sorry...
Apology accepted.
(04-15-2021 05:13 PM)SF Husky Wrote: ...but Temple is not in the same league as UCONN
That's correct. Temple is a member of an FBS/all-sports league.
(04-15-2021 05:13 PM)SF Husky Wrote: and it is not even close
Also correct. The BEC isn't close to becoming a FBS league. That's not on their agenda.
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I've read a lot from Temple fans through the years who have spoken of certain subset of UConn fans whom they described as being pompous and bloviatingly braggdocious, but never had direct contact with that species of Husky until today.
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To be honest, UConn is in a tough spot, and Temple fans know what it's like to be in their position from experience. TUFB was fortunate enough to rebuild their program in the MAC while playing in a state of the art NFL stadium. It appears that UConn is planning to do it the hard way.
All of the silly trash-talking aside, I and most AAC fans probably wish the majority of UConn fans well.
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(This post was last modified: 04-15-2021 05:43 PM by jedclampett.)
RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-15-2021 05:20 PM)vick mike Wrote:
(04-15-2021 05:13 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-15-2021 02:48 PM)The Grape King Wrote:
(04-13-2021 01:57 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-13-2021 12:17 PM)The Grape King Wrote: Temple did the same thing when it got booted from the Big East, scheduled big time programs the two years as an independent. They went 1-22 in 2005 and 2006, playing teams like Louisville, Penn State, Clemson, Wisconsin, Arizona State, Miami. They lost 62-0 back to back weeks one year. I wasn't around in those days, but the sense I get from older Temple folks was that those were the darkest days of the football program that was on the verge of being axed before the move to the MAC and the hiring of Al Golden.
You can compare schedules to BYU all you want, UConn isn't BYU. They're gonna schedule body bag games until either someone let's them in as a football only, whether it's FBS or FCS, or until they cut their losses and can football completely. For a school that already doesn't care about football, dumping money into a program that's winning one or two games a year and getting thumped by P5s on a regular basis is gonna get old very quick.
Why would you even want to maintain FBS status at that point? How is it better as a fan or for the school to lose double figure games every year as an FBS independent instead of heading to the Colonial and playing competitive(ish) football? UConn is playing for nothing as things stand now. I'd be much more inclined to support TU football as an FCS program than I would've been in those independent years. Spin it however you want. We've been there and done that with the big time independent schedule, and it almost cost Temple its program.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I remember Temple in the Big East very well. Temple was a dump. Your administration did nothing for the football program. Temple was kicked out of the Big East cause it did no investment into the program while collecting Big East payouts.
Comparing UCONN to Temple is simply laughable. UCONN has top-notch football facilities while Temple does not, and it has a stadium dedicated to its football program while Temple rents from the Eagles. Also, UCONN has made plenty of investment into the program while Temple didn't. While Temple never drew fans, UCONN sold out its stadium many times when it was winning. UCONN also won multiple Big East championships in football before, so please don't compare where Temple was even with UCONN today.
The only thing UCONN needs to do today is winning some games. Edsall won at UCONN before, but whether he is the right coach is still debatable. All we do know is UCONN hired two horrible coaches (Coach P and Diaco) that set the program back multiple years. Can Edsall recover? It is hard to say, but he has won here before. Once UCONN can win again, there is little doubt CT fans will come back especially with the new indy schedule.
Considering Temple rolled you guys by 50 and plunged the final nail into UConn's football coffin last time they played, yes, I'd say it's laughable to compare the programs.
You call a high school stadium an hour from campus in the Hartford suburbs "top notch"? You guys really are completely out of your minds.
As if recent scores got anything to do with the state of the program. Hint: it is much more than winning and losing. Calling UCONN's stadium a high school stadium shows you have no clue what you are talking about.
Sorry but Temple is not in the same league as UCONN, and it is not even close.
You’re right. We’re in a better league.
We actually are. I would not want Temple to pull the same move if ever given the opportunity. We've seen what happens when football is unhitched from everything else. No good will come of it.
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(04-15-2021 10:18 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:
(04-15-2021 05:20 PM)vick mike Wrote:
(04-15-2021 05:13 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-15-2021 02:48 PM)The Grape King Wrote:
(04-13-2021 01:57 PM)SF Husky Wrote: Sorry to disappoint you, but I remember Temple in the Big East very well. Temple was a dump. Your administration did nothing for the football program. Temple was kicked out of the Big East cause it did no investment into the program while collecting Big East payouts.
Comparing UCONN to Temple is simply laughable. UCONN has top-notch football facilities while Temple does not, and it has a stadium dedicated to its football program while Temple rents from the Eagles. Also, UCONN has made plenty of investment into the program while Temple didn't. While Temple never drew fans, UCONN sold out its stadium many times when it was winning. UCONN also won multiple Big East championships in football before, so please don't compare where Temple was even with UCONN today.
The only thing UCONN needs to do today is winning some games. Edsall won at UCONN before, but whether he is the right coach is still debatable. All we do know is UCONN hired two horrible coaches (Coach P and Diaco) that set the program back multiple years. Can Edsall recover? It is hard to say, but he has won here before. Once UCONN can win again, there is little doubt CT fans will come back especially with the new indy schedule.
Considering Temple rolled you guys by 50 and plunged the final nail into UConn's football coffin last time they played, yes, I'd say it's laughable to compare the programs.
You call a high school stadium an hour from campus in the Hartford suburbs "top notch"? You guys really are completely out of your minds.
As if recent scores got anything to do with the state of the program. Hint: it is much more than winning and losing. Calling UCONN's stadium a high school stadium shows you have no clue what you are talking about.
Sorry but Temple is not in the same league as UCONN, and it is not even close.
You’re right. We’re in a better league.
We actually are. I would not want Temple to pull the same move if ever given the opportunity. We've seen what happens when football is unhitched from everything else. No good will come of it.
It’s not that UConn necessarily made a bad decision overall. Reasonable minds can differ about priorities. Rather, it’s the delusion of some of its posters here about the football program. Temple, and most of the rest of the AAC, are always one star coach away from a national ranking. UConn football cannot now be of that calibre ever regardless of whom is at the helm. At best, the Huskies upset Army during one of their down years.
Oh, and it’s not 2001 anymore. Come check out Temple’s facilities. Clemson isn’t impressed, but UConn should be. And, unlike UConn, nobody schedules Temple for a “bodybag” game anymore either.
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(04-16-2021 12:40 PM)Enriquillo Wrote: Oh, and it’s not 2001 anymore. Come check out Temple’s facilities. Clemson isn’t impressed, but UConn should be. And, unlike UConn, nobody schedules Temple for a “bodybag” game anymore either.
Impressed? I guess it depends who you ask. Here is a glimpse into UCONN's football locker room.
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(04-16-2021 02:12 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-16-2021 12:40 PM)Enriquillo Wrote: Oh, and it’s not 2001 anymore. Come check out Temple’s facilities. Clemson isn’t impressed, but UConn should be. And, unlike UConn, nobody schedules Temple for a “bodybag” game anymore either.
Impressed? I guess it depends who you ask. Here is a glimpse into UCONN's football locker room.
Nice - Built with OBE and AAC money. Where does the money come from for up keep and to refurbish it down the road without conference money since UConn claims to be bleeding money with its football team especially when it was in the AAC and without last years revenue since the team sat home.
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(04-16-2021 03:49 PM)panite Wrote:
(04-16-2021 02:12 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-16-2021 12:40 PM)Enriquillo Wrote: Oh, and it’s not 2001 anymore. Come check out Temple’s facilities. Clemson isn’t impressed, but UConn should be. And, unlike UConn, nobody schedules Temple for a “bodybag” game anymore either.
Impressed? I guess it depends who you ask. Here is a glimpse into UCONN's football locker room.
Nice - Built with OBE and AAC money. Where does the money come from for up keep and to refurbish it down the road without conference money since UConn claims to be bleeding money with its football team especially when it was in the AAC and without last years revenue since the team sat home.
Are you kidding?
UConn FB sitting out 2020 was GREAT for the UConn Athletic Department.
Erase most of a $10 million dollar annual deficit. Double check that - Edsall's contract probably has a bonus for cancelled seasons.
But we all know that $10million annual shortfall isn't going anywhere with upcoming seasons having travel to Fresno, Logan UT, and Muncie IN, and home games vs MTSU, FIU, Georgia State, etc.
Cancelling football in 2020 was like a tourniquet when a Husky has it's paw in a bear trap of it's own making.
RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-16-2021 03:49 PM)panite Wrote:
(04-16-2021 02:12 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-16-2021 12:40 PM)Enriquillo Wrote: Oh, and it’s not 2001 anymore. Come check out Temple’s facilities. Clemson isn’t impressed, but UConn should be. And, unlike UConn, nobody schedules Temple for a “bodybag” game anymore either.
Impressed? I guess it depends who you ask. Here is a glimpse into UCONN's football locker room.
Nice - Built with OBE and AAC money. Where does the money come from for up keep and to refurbish it down the road without conference money since UConn claims to be bleeding money with its football team especially when it was in the AAC and without last years revenue since the team sat home.
Wrong. It was paid for with donor money. Haters gonna hate.
RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-16-2021 04:18 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:
(04-16-2021 03:49 PM)panite Wrote:
(04-16-2021 02:12 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-16-2021 12:40 PM)Enriquillo Wrote: Oh, and it’s not 2001 anymore. Come check out Temple’s facilities. Clemson isn’t impressed, but UConn should be. And, unlike UConn, nobody schedules Temple for a “bodybag” game anymore either.
Impressed? I guess it depends who you ask. Here is a glimpse into UCONN's football locker room.
Nice - Built with OBE and AAC money. Where does the money come from for up keep and to refurbish it down the road without conference money since UConn claims to be bleeding money with its football team especially when it was in the AAC and without last years revenue since the team sat home.
Are you kidding?
UConn FB sitting out 2020 was GREAT for the UConn Athletic Department.
Erase most of a $10 million dollar annual deficit. Double check that - Edsall's contract probably has a bonus for cancelled seasons.
But we all know that $10million annual shortfall isn't going anywhere with upcoming seasons having travel to Fresno, Logan UT, and Muncie IN, and home games vs MTSU, FIU, Georgia State, etc.
Cancelling football in 2020 was like a tourniquet when a Husky has it's paw in a bear trap of it's own making.
Their goal is to cancel next season also but you know..for players safety.
Joking aside what they did and will do to their football program is a shame. Those guys and the alumni deserve better. It's only a matter of time before they go fcs or just get rid of it. All because of over spending and incompetent administration.
No use trying to butter it up or play make believe.
RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-16-2021 06:11 PM)Agust Wrote:
(04-16-2021 04:18 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:
(04-16-2021 03:49 PM)panite Wrote:
(04-16-2021 02:12 PM)SF Husky Wrote:
(04-16-2021 12:40 PM)Enriquillo Wrote: Oh, and it’s not 2001 anymore. Come check out Temple’s facilities. Clemson isn’t impressed, but UConn should be. And, unlike UConn, nobody schedules Temple for a “bodybag” game anymore either.
Impressed? I guess it depends who you ask. Here is a glimpse into UCONN's football locker room.
Nice - Built with OBE and AAC money. Where does the money come from for up keep and to refurbish it down the road without conference money since UConn claims to be bleeding money with its football team especially when it was in the AAC and without last years revenue since the team sat home.
Are you kidding?
UConn FB sitting out 2020 was GREAT for the UConn Athletic Department.
Erase most of a $10 million dollar annual deficit. Double check that - Edsall's contract probably has a bonus for cancelled seasons.
But we all know that $10million annual shortfall isn't going anywhere with upcoming seasons having travel to Fresno, Logan UT, and Muncie IN, and home games vs MTSU, FIU, Georgia State, etc.
Cancelling football in 2020 was like a tourniquet when a Husky has it's paw in a bear trap of it's own making.
Their goal is to cancel next season also but you know..for players safety.
Joking aside what they did and will do to their football program is a shame. Those guys and the alumni deserve better. It's only a matter of time before they go fcs or just get rid of it. All because of over spending and incompetent administration.
No use trying to butter it up or play make believe.
I do disagree that UConn is destined for FCS.
And I say that from the perspective of a fan of a successful independent football program.
Independent Navy football had a lot of advantages 15-20 years ago that UConn doesn't. Period. But UConn does have name recognition, generally as a state flagship school and specifically as a MBB brand and a WBB super-brand. That branding does translate to a certain extent.
I actually like the scheduling philosophy of getting football home-and-homes with basketball-centric P5s -- Duke, Wake, NCSU, UNC. It's not terrible.
Bowls aren't really an issue with UConn football (independent 1-year bowl deals and then averaging 15,000+ official ticket sales was a big positive feedback loop for Navy's successful independence).
And overall, strategically, the move to the Big East was the right strategic move for the institution. Football will just be a loss leader. That football deficit will remain, but it will be a loss relative to their overall gain of returning to their Big East basketball focus.
Husky fans will talk about Syracuse, BC, Rutgers series filling the Rent, but I only see like two of those. Long-term series with Army is a win, but not going to fix the deficit. Football games against basketball names will be meh, and will not offset the MTSU, FIU, etc games.
And that's okay for them, I guess.
If football can get a couple wins against that schedule rather than zero wins against the AAC, then maybe just maybe Big East MBB, fading WBB, and a life support FBS program that isn't a perennial 0-8 in the AAC just might keep the chance of ACC or Big10 bid some decimal dust above zero. (and their Big East buddies in Omaha and Mikwaukee have no illusions that UConn wouldn't drop them like a hot rock if that snowball's chance came up).
I think UConn can avoid dropping to FCS and muddle along at the level of UMass or NMSU. And overall, they made the right move to Big East MBB.
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