(04-08-2021 12:49 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote: (04-08-2021 11:21 AM)jhasting Wrote: (04-08-2021 11:02 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (04-08-2021 10:52 AM)Wahoowa84 Wrote: (04-08-2021 10:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote: Aha, getting no money at all is a problem. So give each conference one unit for its automatic bid. Then all other units only for wins. That way the little guys always get something.
Winning games should have a lot more value than mere participation. For that matter, IMO participation via automatic qualifier should have less value than selection via an agreed merit-based criteria. It doesn’t take much effort to form a conference and schedule games...winning games is more challenging (either in the regular season or during the tournament). Money should not be disbursed as a participation reward.
I agree in principle, but the conferences run this thing via the NCAA, and no conference wants a purely "commission based" system, because nobody wants to be left totally out of the money.
So .... everyone gets a "base" of one unit, call it a base salary for participation if you like, then the rest based on merit. That's IMO a big improvement over now, where you can collect seven units like the ACC just did merely for participation.
currently 68 units for participation and 64 units for wins are distributes to the conferences.
This distribution (including wins) is also likely why the 4 play-in games are not all 16(lowest) seeds as play-in games were prior to 1985. If all current play-in games were between 16 seeds then the smaller conferences would automatically get 2 more WIN units, by making two of the play-in games between last 4 teams in increases the chance that P6 or mid-majors can earn 2 more WIN units.
Win units should increase as a team advances through the tournament.
First four and round of 64 = 1 win unit
Round of 32 = 2 win units
Round of 16 = 3 or 4 win units
Etc.
if incrementing units awarded : 1 unit for win play-in or 1st rnd, 2 units for 2nd rnd, 3 units for S16, 4units for E8, 5 units for F4, and 6 units for winning NC. 68 units for participation and 124 units for winning. Result is P6 keeping 65% of money vs 59% using current NCAA distribution.
incrementing unit show BIG12, WCC, and PAC-12 get 2-4% increase in money as expected but every mid major and small conference (other than WCC and AAC) are reduced. Only ACC & B1G are reduced more than 1%
INCR UNITS INCR % CURRENT DIFF
2020-21 A-10 2 1.04% 1.52% -0.47% virginia-commonwealth(1) st-bonaventure(1)
2020-21 A-Sun 1 0.52% 0.76% -0.24% liberty(1)
2020-21 AAC 12 6.25% 4.55% 1.70% houston(11) wichita-state(1)
2020-21 ACC 13 6.77% 8.33% -1.56% florida-state(4) syracuse(4) georgia-tech(1) virginia(1) virginia-tech(1) north-carolina(1) clemson(1)
2020-21 AEC 1 0.52% 0.76% -0.24% hatford(1)
2020-21 Big 12 34 17.71% 12.88% 4.83% baylor(22) west-virginia(2) kansas(2) oklahoma-state(2) oklahoma(2) texas-tech(2) texas(1) missouri(1)
2020-21 Big East 10 5.21% 6.06% -0.85% villanova(4) creighton(4) georgetown(1) connecticut(1)
2020-21 Big Sky 1 0.52% 0.76% -0.24% eastern-washington(1)
2020-21 Big South 1 0.52% 0.76% -0.24% winthrop(1)
2020-21 Big Ten 20 10.42% 12.88% -2.46% michigan(7) iowa(2) wisconsin(2) rutgers(2) illinois(2) maryland(2) ohio-state(1) purdue(1) michigan-state(1)
2020-21 Big West 1 0.52% 0.76% -0.24% california-santa-barbara(1)
2020-21 CAA 1 0.52% 0.76% -0.24% drexel(1)
2020-21 CUSA 2 1.04% 1.52% -0.47% north-texas(2)
2020-21 Horizon 1 0.52% 0.76% -0.24% cleveland-state(1)
2020-21 MAAC 1 0.52% 0.76% -0.24% iona(1)
2020-21 MAC 2 1.04% 1.52% -0.47% ohio(2)
2020-21 MEAC 2 1.04% 1.52% -0.47% norfolk-state(2)
2020-21 MVC 6 3.13% 3.79% -0.66% loyola-il(4) drake(2)
2020-21 MWC 2 1.04% 1.52% -0.47% utah-state(1) san-diego-state(1)
2020-21 NEC 1 0.52% 0.76% -0.24% mount-st-marys(1)
2020-21 OVC 1 0.52% 0.76% -0.24% morehead-state(1)
2020-21 Pac-12 32 16.67% 14.39% 2.27% oregon-state(7) southern-california(7) oregon(4) colorado(2) ucla(12)
2020-21 Patriot 1 0.52% 0.76% -0.24% colgate(1)
2020-21 SEC 16 8.33% 9.09% -0.76% arkansas(7) alabama(4) florida(2) louisiana-state(2) tennessee(1)
2020-21 SWAC 2 1.04% 1.52% -0.47% texas-southern(2)
2020-21 Southern 1 0.52% 0.76% -0.24% north-carolina-greensboro(1)
2020-21 Southland 2 1.04% 1.52% -0.47% abilene-christian(2)
2020-21 Summit 4 2.08% 2.27% -0.19% oral-roberts(4)
2020-21 Sun Belt 1 0.52% 0.76% -0.24% appalachian-state(1)
2020-21 WAC 1 0.52% 0.76% -0.24% grand-canyon(1)
2020-21 WCC 17 8.85% 4.55% 4.31% gonzaga(16) brigham-young(1)