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(03-17-2021 10:50 AM)DJBEARCAT Wrote:  It's pretty disappointing that we haven't heard from the AD or Coach Brannen himself. I mean, I get it...lots of players are in the transfer portal this year...but this seems like a larger issue.

Things fell apart less than 24 hours ago. Especially in terms of contracts, etc...that requires careful legal handling and consultation.

My point is that it really hasn't been that long since the s*** hit the fan and it's probably better that the AD and the University President are saying nothing at the moment, than to go off half-cocked and say something that they then have to walk back or regret.

Silence does not necessarily mean "nothing is happening."

Yeah this will all shake out in a week or so.

(03-17-2021 10:56 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(03-17-2021 10:50 AM)DJBEARCAT Wrote:  It's pretty disappointing that we haven't heard from the AD or Coach Brannen himself. I mean, I get it...lots of players are in the transfer portal this year...but this seems like a larger issue.

Things fell apart less than 24 hours ago. Especially in terms of contracts, etc...that requires careful legal handling and consultation.

My point is that it really hasn't been that long since the s*** hit the fan and it's probably better that the AD and the University President are saying nothing at the moment, than to go off half-cocked and say something that they then have to walk back or regret.

Silence does not necessarily mean "nothing is happening."

Yeah. It's also tournament week. There's no need for anyone to come out and make a hasty statement or decision. Take the time and make the right one. Talk to the people you need to. The players, coaches. Whatever. And any AD worth his salt has a list of names ready to go anyways.

So, after the Houston debacle I stepped away from the keyboard for a few days. That's how I deal with the last game of either the hoops or football season when it ends in a loss. It's hard when it finally comes to a halt in that fashion and I can be an emotional guy anyway so laying low and turning the focus on to other things in life is good medicine for me. However, reading what has transpired over the past several days has made this even more difficult to absorb. I'm over angry and disappointment but not sadness. Sadness for our once proud program that carried the Bearcats brand long before football took over the reigns. It's just unreal, maybe even surreal, to see how far down in the trench our hoops program now finds itself. Like many on here, I was hoping the young core of players - who valiantly bonded together and fought like hell to rack up some wins of late - was something the program could continue to build upon, add a few pieces, and keep moving the needle to get better next year. That isn't happening. Not anytime soon.

To be honest, there have been red flags that go back to last season with regard to the relationship between players and CJB. It's finally come to a head and there can be no denying a problem exists. To have key guys STILL want to leave the program after putting together a "mini-run" of solid basketball over the last third of the season is eye opening. I don't know that I've ever experienced something like this on this scale - COVID impacts or not - and it certainly is not happening on this scale at other programs.

I know this much...if we're upset and wanting answers as alumni and fans then the AD administration surely is investigating the program right now. No more pointing fingers and innuendo and tweets - that time is over. Now, there needs to be "Beyond Scared Straight" talk with everyone associated with our program to get to where the rubber meets the road.

Unless this is just an outlier of epic proportions, IMO I don't believe our program can run under CJB. This may not rise to something like the Gregg Marshall situation but how can you recruit any quality [or quantity] when word is out going back to last year from JC that our coach is not worth staying/playing for. Fair or unfair that is a difficult label to remove once it's out there. I understand his contract situation is prohibitive but what is the cost moving forward of keeping a lame duck coach at the helm. We saw how that worked out a few years back. So sad that this is where we find ourselves! If it wasn't for football I would take an extended hiatus from UC sports. This just hurts like a punch to the gut...

(03-17-2021 10:56 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(03-17-2021 10:50 AM)DJBEARCAT Wrote:  It's pretty disappointing that we haven't heard from the AD or Coach Brannen himself. I mean, I get it...lots of players are in the transfer portal this year...but this seems like a larger issue.

Things fell apart less than 24 hours ago. Especially in terms of contracts, etc...that requires careful legal handling and consultation.

My point is that it really hasn't been that long since the s*** hit the fan and it's probably better that the AD and the University President are saying nothing at the moment, than to go off half-cocked and say something that they then have to walk back or regret.

Silence does not necessarily mean "nothing is happening."

**** has been hitting the fan all season. These opt outs and guys doing the conga line to the transfer portal all have a common causal connection.

Guys I think Brannen is getting another year, looks like Davenport is staying. Let’s make some big assumptions here.
1. MAW, DDJ also stay.
2. Banks gets a scholarship
3. Vik stays and is slotted into backup spot in the post.

If all the above are true then you have 8 Scholarships to give with two starting spots to offer and major backup minutes everywhere.

The goal is get two major high end starters at the wing and the 5 spot. A bunch of older multi year players that have a chip who are not afraid get after it with the coach, teammates, and the other team. Stop recruiting finnese players and go back to Huggins/Cronin years and get some dudes that are ready now to fight for Cincinnati. Size upgrades, athleticism upgrades, maturity upgrades. Forget the process and just get after it and win by any means every night.

(03-17-2021 02:43 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Guys I think Brannen is getting another year, looks like Davenport is staying. Let’s make some big assumptions here.
1. MAW, DDJ also stay.
2. Banks gets a scholarship
3. Vik stays and is slotted into backup spot in the post.

If all the above are true then you have 8 Scholarships to give with two starting spots to offer and major backup minutes everywhere.

The goal is get two major high end starters at the wing and the 5 spot. A bunch of older multi year players that have a chip who are not afraid get after it with the coach, teammates, and the other team. Stop recruiting finnese players and go back to Huggins/Cronin years and get some dudes that are ready now to fight for Cincinnati. Size upgrades, athleticism upgrades, maturity upgrades. Forget the process and just get after it and win by any means every night.

I think Banks will get a Scholarship, But I doubt he will be a starter. They will likely look for someone and have Banks as a backup.

(03-17-2021 02:53 PM)Banter Wrote:  

(03-17-2021 02:43 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Guys I think Brannen is getting another year, looks like Davenport is staying. Let’s make some big assumptions here.
1. MAW, DDJ also stay.
2. Banks gets a scholarship
3. Vik stays and is slotted into backup spot in the post.

If all the above are true then you have 8 Scholarships to give with two starting spots to offer and major backup minutes everywhere.

The goal is get two major high end starters at the wing and the 5 spot. A bunch of older multi year players that have a chip who are not afraid get after it with the coach, teammates, and the other team. Stop recruiting finnese players and go back to Huggins/Cronin years and get some dudes that are ready now to fight for Cincinnati. Size upgrades, athleticism upgrades, maturity upgrades. Forget the process and just get after it and win by any means every night.

I think Banks will get a Scholarship, But I doubt he will be a starter. They will likely look for someone and have Banks as a backup.

DDJ, MAW, and Davenport start. Transfers fill the rest.

Before I agree to transfer here my first queation is “Wtf happened?”

(03-17-2021 03:03 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  Before I agree to transfer here my first queation is “Wtf happened?”

And you can bet that question is being asked via Instagram DM to the players...not the coach.

(03-17-2021 02:53 PM)Banter Wrote:  

(03-17-2021 02:43 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Guys I think Brannen is getting another year, looks like Davenport is staying. Let’s make some big assumptions here.
1. MAW, DDJ also stay.
2. Banks gets a scholarship
3. Vik stays and is slotted into backup spot in the post.

If all the above are true then you have 8 Scholarships to give with two starting spots to offer and major backup minutes everywhere.

The goal is get two major high end starters at the wing and the 5 spot. A bunch of older multi year players that have a chip who are not afraid get after it with the coach, teammates, and the other team. Stop recruiting finnese players and go back to Huggins/Cronin years and get some dudes that are ready now to fight for Cincinnati. Size upgrades, athleticism upgrades, maturity upgrades. Forget the process and just get after it and win by any means every night.

I think Banks will get a Scholarship, But I doubt he will be a starter. They will likely look for someone and have Banks as a backup.

My god...are we really saying "doubt" instead of "there is no ******* way a 6'4" forward who is a walk-on will start for our team next year"? What a year this has been lol

Rumours are swirling that an assistant accidentally sent a text to Harvey, bashing him about what he doesn't do well. The text was supposed to go to a potential recruit.

(03-17-2021 03:11 PM)tjh416 Wrote:  Rumours are swirling that an assistant accidentally sent a text to Harvey, bashing him about what he doesn't do well. The text was supposed to go to a potential recruit.

That sounds pretty weak. However, if it's true, the assistant should be fired. That's just careless.

(03-17-2021 03:11 PM)tjh416 Wrote:  Rumours are swirling that an assistant accidentally sent a text to Harvey, bashing him about what he doesn't do well. The text was supposed to go to a potential recruit.

Why in the **** would an assistant be saying something like that to a recruit in the first place?

(03-17-2021 03:21 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-17-2021 03:11 PM)tjh416 Wrote:  Rumours are swirling that an assistant accidentally sent a text to Harvey, bashing him about what he doesn't do well. The text was supposed to go to a potential recruit.

Why in the **** would an assistant be saying something like that to a recruit in the first place?

Idk if it's true but it was either in the context of how a potential recruit could help improve the roster and something was said along the lines of "we need a wing who can create off the dribble, and right now Zach can't do that" or it was after Harvey opted out and the recruit would ask why that happened and the coach gets defensive.

Just some guesses

That would make AK’a idiotic fax to the temple commit back in the day look brilliant.

(03-17-2021 03:11 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-17-2021 02:53 PM)Banter Wrote:  

(03-17-2021 02:43 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Guys I think Brannen is getting another year, looks like Davenport is staying. Let’s make some big assumptions here.
1. MAW, DDJ also stay.
2. Banks gets a scholarship
3. Vik stays and is slotted into backup spot in the post.

If all the above are true then you have 8 Scholarships to give with two starting spots to offer and major backup minutes everywhere.

The goal is get two major high end starters at the wing and the 5 spot. A bunch of older multi year players that have a chip who are not afraid get after it with the coach, teammates, and the other team. Stop recruiting finnese players and go back to Huggins/Cronin years and get some dudes that are ready now to fight for Cincinnati. Size upgrades, athleticism upgrades, maturity upgrades. Forget the process and just get after it and win by any means every night.

I think Banks will get a Scholarship, But I doubt he will be a starter. They will likely look for someone and have Banks as a backup.

My god...are we really saying "doubt" instead of "there is no ******* way a 6'4" forward who is a walk-on will start for our team next year"? What a year this has been lol

Rob Banks gets a scholarship...in year #3 on the job?

Bwahahah! This is great.

Maybe Vogt will stay and we can run out a starting 5 of DJJ, JD, MAW, Banks, and Vogt. Looking to ug my seat license already.

Marshall restocked the Wichita State team after their mass exodus last year before he got fired. They had enough to get to the tournament this year, so it's at least possible.

(03-17-2021 03:58 PM)Dont tase me bro Wrote:  Marshall restocked the Wichita State team after their mass exodus last year before he got fired. They had enough to get to the tournament this year, so it's at least possible.

Marshall was a likely hall of fame coach (though I guess he probably isn't now). If Brannen was a proven winner with a final four and multiple NCAA tournaments at UC under his belt, I don't think we'd have nearly as much concern.

But Brannen is in his second year, finished barely above 0.500, no NCAA tournaments at UC and every potential recruit is going to hear about how half Brannen's recruits transferred out, saying he lies in recruiting and hate him. Brannen will be lucky to get quality mid-major guys.