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RE: Tarleton vs NMSU Football
(02-23-2021 03:21 PM)NMSUIndyAg Wrote:  Some folks don’t like the idea, but in my opinion, if anything is going to change the funding for NMSU football, it’s got to be in the allocation of guarantee game money. Take the money from the second and third highest payouts and reinvest that money into the football program, rather than into the department as a whole. That would “infuse” $1.25M to $1.75M dollars per year to the bottom line to football. I think it has to start there before you can go to the boosters for more money. To do that, we may have to get out from under this debt to the general fund. I’m also not convinced the debt we incur this year should, or will, be treated the same as the debt from 10 years ago. That remains to be seen.

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If the WAC becomes a FCS conference you won’t have as many spots available for cash games against P5 out of conference opponents. Get the money while you can
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(02-23-2021 03:54 PM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 03:21 PM)NMSUIndyAg Wrote:  Some folks don’t like the idea, but in my opinion, if anything is going to change the funding for NMSU football, it’s got to be in the allocation of guarantee game money. Take the money from the second and third highest payouts and reinvest that money into the football program, rather than into the department as a whole. That would “infuse” $1.25M to $1.75M dollars per year to the bottom line to football. I think it has to start there before you can go to the boosters for more money. To do that, we may have to get out from under this debt to the general fund. I’m also not convinced the debt we incur this year should, or will, be treated the same as the debt from 10 years ago. That remains to be seen.

GO AGGIES!!!!

If the WAC becomes a FCS conference you won’t have as many spots available for cash games against P5 out of conference opponents. Get the money while you can

The WAC becoming FCS has no bearing on NMSU since we are FBS. Unless I'm not understanding you. Please elaborate.
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RE: Tarleton vs NMSU Football
(02-23-2021 05:00 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 03:54 PM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 03:21 PM)NMSUIndyAg Wrote:  Some folks don’t like the idea, but in my opinion, if anything is going to change the funding for NMSU football, it’s got to be in the allocation of guarantee game money. Take the money from the second and third highest payouts and reinvest that money into the football program, rather than into the department as a whole. That would “infuse” $1.25M to $1.75M dollars per year to the bottom line to football. I think it has to start there before you can go to the boosters for more money. To do that, we may have to get out from under this debt to the general fund. I’m also not convinced the debt we incur this year should, or will, be treated the same as the debt from 10 years ago. That remains to be seen.

GO AGGIES!!!!

If the WAC becomes a FCS conference you won’t have as many spots available for cash games against P5 out of conference opponents. Get the money while you can

The WAC becoming FCS has no bearing on NMSU since we are FBS. Unless I'm not understanding you. Please elaborate.

Yeah, nothing an FCS WAC (if it happens) does has anything to do with our football. Our scheduling goes on as it has since 2018. Playing Tarleton was a convenience due to no FBS opportunities in Spring for us, not because our other sports share a conference.
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(02-23-2021 05:43 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 05:00 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 03:54 PM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 03:21 PM)NMSUIndyAg Wrote:  Some folks don’t like the idea, but in my opinion, if anything is going to change the funding for NMSU football, it’s got to be in the allocation of guarantee game money. Take the money from the second and third highest payouts and reinvest that money into the football program, rather than into the department as a whole. That would “infuse” $1.25M to $1.75M dollars per year to the bottom line to football. I think it has to start there before you can go to the boosters for more money. To do that, we may have to get out from under this debt to the general fund. I’m also not convinced the debt we incur this year should, or will, be treated the same as the debt from 10 years ago. That remains to be seen.

GO AGGIES!!!!

If the WAC becomes a FCS conference you won’t have as many spots available for cash games against P5 out of conference opponents. Get the money while you can

The WAC becoming FCS has no bearing on NMSU since we are FBS. Unless I'm not understanding you. Please elaborate.

Yeah, nothing an FCS WAC (if it happens) does has anything to do with our football. Our scheduling goes on as it has since 2018. Playing Tarleton was a convenience due to no FBS opportunities in Spring for us, not because our other sports share a conference.

Sorry, I meant if the WAC becomes a FBS conference.
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Buy games might almost be easier in FBS WAC. If the WAC played an 8 game schedule, that would get us 4 home games, and then we would have one home game against either UNM or UTEP, for a total of five home games. That leaves two games for us to whore ourselves out, without having to worry about the 5 home game minimum.

Next year we're playing Bama and Kentucky as buy games, but we still have to schedule a fifth home game (who we will probably have to pay).

And of course, the other WAC schools will be able to schedule buy games, too, so there may be more competition.
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(02-23-2021 08:11 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  Buy games might almost be easier in FBS WAC. If the WAC played an 8 game schedule, that would get us 4 home games, and then we would have one home game against either UNM or UTEP, for a total of five home games. That leaves two games for us to whore ourselves out, without having to worry about the 5 home game minimum.

Next year we're playing Bama and Kentucky as buy games, but we still have to schedule a fifth home game (who we will probably have to pay).

And of course, the other WAC schools will be able to schedule buy games, too, so there may be more competition.

So, 8 conference game, plus UTEP and UNM with one home and the other away, and you’d use the remaining two sports to schedule buy games against p5’s?
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(02-23-2021 09:02 PM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 08:11 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  Buy games might almost be easier in FBS WAC. If the WAC played an 8 game schedule, that would get us 4 home games, and then we would have one home game against either UNM or UTEP, for a total of five home games. That leaves two games for us to whore ourselves out, without having to worry about the 5 home game minimum.

Next year we're playing Bama and Kentucky as buy games, but we still have to schedule a fifth home game (who we will probably have to pay).

And of course, the other WAC schools will be able to schedule buy games, too, so there may be more competition.

So, 8 conference game, plus UTEP and UNM with one home and the other away, and you’d use the remaining two sports to schedule buy games against p5’s?

Unless the conference (WAC?) signs a TV contract to garnering substantial revenue and had bowl tie ins, NMSU would need two money games to fund FBS football.
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(02-23-2021 09:02 PM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 08:11 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  Buy games might almost be easier in FBS WAC. If the WAC played an 8 game schedule, that would get us 4 home games, and then we would have one home game against either UNM or UTEP, for a total of five home games. That leaves two games for us to whore ourselves out, without having to worry about the 5 home game minimum.

Next year we're playing Bama and Kentucky as buy games, but we still have to schedule a fifth home game (who we will probably have to pay).

And of course, the other WAC schools will be able to schedule buy games, too, so there may be more competition.

So, 8 conference game, plus UTEP and UNM with one home and the other away, and you’d use the remaining two sports to schedule buy games against p5’s?

Yep, exactly.
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(02-23-2021 09:02 PM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 08:11 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  Buy games might almost be easier in FBS WAC. If the WAC played an 8 game schedule, that would get us 4 home games, and then we would have one home game against either UNM or UTEP, for a total of five home games. That leaves two games for us to whore ourselves out, without having to worry about the 5 home game minimum.

Next year we're playing Bama and Kentucky as buy games, but we still have to schedule a fifth home game (who we will probably have to pay).

And of course, the other WAC schools will be able to schedule buy games, too, so there may be more competition.

So, 8 conference game, plus UTEP and UNM with one home and the other away, and you’d use the remaining two sports to schedule buy games against p5’s?
You have 12 games to work with.

In their case, they have their two biggest rivals + 8 conference games.

Everyone wants the rivalry games and Some conference games will turn into rivalries with enough time. Thats a pretty nice setup if you ask me.

With two other games to work with, you can buy an FCS home game, take a P5 payday or get another G5 home and home setup to spice things up and keep every year from being the same.

Two money games puts you in a hole for bowl Eligibility but it may be a necessary evil for the program to grow. Those games put more eyeballs on your program.

Most conferences seem to do 3 or 4 OOC games and then conference. So this doesn't seem too bad.

Now imagine FBS ACU. You have 8 conference games and 4 games available to do whatever. What do you do?
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The talk has gone from all of the reasons NMSU should be FCS, with explanations of how much sense it makes to people, to giving up that stupid idea, and now we've moved on to an imaginary FBS WAC and fantasies on how that will work.

This is DavidSt level. Good lord...
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(02-23-2021 10:17 PM)Todor Wrote:  The talk has gone from all of the reasons NMSU should be FCS, with explanations of how much sense it makes to people, to giving up that stupid idea, and now we've moved on to an imaginary FBS WAC and fantasies on how that will work.

This is DavidSt level. Good lord...

The crux of the conversation was how NMSU can fund/grow its athletic department, not how a WAC FBS league would work. Would you rather we relitigate who the 14th team would be?
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(02-23-2021 10:33 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 10:17 PM)Todor Wrote:  The talk has gone from all of the reasons NMSU should be FCS, with explanations of how much sense it makes to people, to giving up that stupid idea, and now we've moved on to an imaginary FBS WAC and fantasies on how that will work.

This is DavidSt level. Good lord...

The crux of the conversation was how NMSU can fund/grow its athletic department, not how a WAC FBS league would work. Would you rather we relitigate who the 14th team would be?

Nay, the crux of the conversation was how did FBS Nmsu get their butts handed to them by lowly D2 moveup Tarleton. Then, as they always do when they lose, *some* nmsu fans begin to suffer from diarrhera of the mouth, aka endless excuses, and we end up where we're at now, some 7 pages of douchebaggery.

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(02-23-2021 10:50 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 10:33 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 10:17 PM)Todor Wrote:  The talk has gone from all of the reasons NMSU should be FCS, with explanations of how much sense it makes to people, to giving up that stupid idea, and now we've moved on to an imaginary FBS WAC and fantasies on how that will work.

This is DavidSt level. Good lord...

The crux of the conversation was how NMSU can fund/grow its athletic department, not how a WAC FBS league would work. Would you rather we relitigate who the 14th team would be?

Nay, the crux of the conversation was how did FBS Nmsu get their butts handed to them by lowly D2 moveup Tarleton. Then, as they always do when they lose, *some* nmsu fans begin to suffer from diarrhera of the mouth, aka endless excuses, and we end up where we're at now, some 7 pages of douchebaggery.

"Excuses are tools of the incompetent"

- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

cheers mate, enjoy the win
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(02-23-2021 10:59 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 10:50 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 10:33 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 10:17 PM)Todor Wrote:  The talk has gone from all of the reasons NMSU should be FCS, with explanations of how much sense it makes to people, to giving up that stupid idea, and now we've moved on to an imaginary FBS WAC and fantasies on how that will work.

This is DavidSt level. Good lord...

The crux of the conversation was how NMSU can fund/grow its athletic department, not how a WAC FBS league would work. Would you rather we relitigate who the 14th team would be?

Nay, the crux of the conversation was how did FBS Nmsu get their butts handed to them by lowly D2 moveup Tarleton. Then, as they always do when they lose, *some* nmsu fans begin to suffer from diarrhera of the mouth, aka endless excuses, and we end up where we're at now, some 7 pages of douchebaggery.

"Excuses are tools of the incompetent"

- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

cheers mate, enjoy the win

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(02-23-2021 11:02 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 10:59 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 10:50 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 10:33 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 10:17 PM)Todor Wrote:  The talk has gone from all of the reasons NMSU should be FCS, with explanations of how much sense it makes to people, to giving up that stupid idea, and now we've moved on to an imaginary FBS WAC and fantasies on how that will work.

This is DavidSt level. Good lord...

The crux of the conversation was how NMSU can fund/grow its athletic department, not how a WAC FBS league would work. Would you rather we relitigate who the 14th team would be?

Nay, the crux of the conversation was how did FBS Nmsu get their butts handed to them by lowly D2 moveup Tarleton. Then, as they always do when they lose, *some* nmsu fans begin to suffer from diarrhera of the mouth, aka endless excuses, and we end up where we're at now, some 7 pages of douchebaggery.

"Excuses are tools of the incompetent"

- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

cheers mate, enjoy the win

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07-coffee3 Well, good thing NMSU doesn't typically lose in basketball. And, Aggie football won't be in the newly formed FCS WAC. There won't be too many of these threads then.
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(02-23-2021 10:17 PM)Todor Wrote:  The talk has gone from all of the reasons NMSU should be FCS, with explanations of how much sense it makes to people, to giving up that stupid idea, and now we've moved on to an imaginary FBS WAC and fantasies on how that will work.

This is DavidSt level. Good lord...

Since I’ve been on here giddy NMSU fans have posted endlessly about how easy it would be for the new WAC to move to FBS because the NCAA has reserved us a spot at the head of the new conference line, and how it is likely to happen sooner rather than later. Now it’s imaginary “DavidST” stuff?

And most of us under stand that you aren’t going to drop to FCS. It’s for the same reason high dollar escorts don’t get a regular day job. $$$$
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(02-23-2021 11:06 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 11:02 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 10:59 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 10:50 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(02-23-2021 10:33 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  The crux of the conversation was how NMSU can fund/grow its athletic department, not how a WAC FBS league would work. Would you rather we relitigate who the 14th team would be?

Nay, the crux of the conversation was how did FBS Nmsu get their butts handed to them by lowly D2 moveup Tarleton. Then, as they always do when they lose, *some* nmsu fans begin to suffer from diarrhera of the mouth, aka endless excuses, and we end up where we're at now, some 7 pages of douchebaggery.

"Excuses are tools of the incompetent"

- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

cheers mate, enjoy the win

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07-coffee3 Well, good thing NMSU doesn't typically lose in basketball. And, Aggie football won't be in the newly formed FCS WAC. There won't be too many of this threads then.

Truth.
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Lowly?! I thought I read on another thread that Tartleton St. was the crown jewel of central Texas. We should be so lucky to even be on the same message board with fans from such a heralded institution. We promise in the future everything will be Tartleton St, God and Country so as not to offend Tartleton fans. I apologize to the fullest as an NMSU fan for being upset that we lost a game. I realize now we’re the only fan base that does that.
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(02-24-2021 05:01 PM)YesCubanB Wrote:  Lowly?! I thought I read on another thread that Tartleton St. was the crown jewel of central Texas. We should be so lucky to even be on the same message board with fans from such a heralded institution. We promise in the future everything will be Tartleton St, God and Country so as not to offend Tartleton fans. I apologize to the fullest as an NMSU fan for being upset that we lost a game. I realize now we’re the only fan base that does that.

It's spelled Tarleton. Out of curiosity, why are you taking ITs bait?
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(02-24-2021 05:01 PM)YesCubanB Wrote:  Lowly?! I thought I read on another thread that Tartleton St. was the crown jewel of central Texas. We should be so lucky to even be on the same message board with fans from such a heralded institution. We promise in the future everything will be Tartleton St, God and Country so as not to offend Tartleton fans. I apologize to the fullest as an NMSU fan for being upset that we lost a game. I realize now we’re the only fan base that does that.

That was Crown Jewel of Texas, man. Crown Jewel of Texas. And thank you for your kind words. 04-cheers
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