ouch

Michigan turned into a basketball school a few decades ago.

It's great having Big Jim up at Ann Arbor. We really enjoy his coaching style down here in the Buckeye state!

Ryan Day/Chris Holtmann
Jim Harbaugh/Juwan Howard

I like Ohio State's dynamic duo more than Michigan's. Juwan is obviously proving to be a very fine coach, no disrespect towards him.

(02-21-2021 03:20 PM)cubucks Wrote:  It's great having Big Jim up at Ann Arbor. We really enjoy his coaching style down here in the Buckeye state!

Ryan Day/Chris Holtmann
Jim Harbaugh/Juwan Howard

I like Ohio State's dynamic duo more than Michigan's. Juwan is obviously proving to be a very fine coach, no disrespect towards him.

probably a few Ohio St fans would love to see Howard go to the NBA(which I think is possible)

(02-21-2021 03:16 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  Michigan turned into a basketball school a few decades ago.

Is that supposed to be an insult? And is this coming from a Virginia fan?

John B’s guys are junior and seniors, correct?

(02-21-2021 03:43 PM)esayem Wrote:  John B’s guys are junior and seniors, correct?

yeah but-
Michigan had #14 recruiting class in 2020
their best player is a freshman....

#1 in 2021 for recruiting.

(02-21-2021 03:24 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 03:20 PM)cubucks Wrote:  It's great having Big Jim up at Ann Arbor. We really enjoy his coaching style down here in the Buckeye state!

Ryan Day/Chris Holtmann
Jim Harbaugh/Juwan Howard

I like Ohio State's dynamic duo more than Michigan's. Juwan is obviously proving to be a very fine coach, no disrespect towards him.

probably a few Ohio St fans would love to see Howard go to the NBA(which I think is possible)

Nah, bring it. We want to be the best which means you have to beat the best.

Noticed Alabama has turned into something of a Basketball school. And our other rival Clemson ... never mind.

(02-21-2021 03:43 PM)esayem Wrote:  John B’s guys are junior and seniors, correct?

Only Livers had major minutes on the 2018 championship game team.
Currently, Hunter Dickinson is a Freshman and there are two key transfers (grad transfer Mike Smith from Columbia and Chaundee Brown from Wake Forest).

(02-21-2021 04:37 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 03:43 PM)esayem Wrote:  John B’s guys are junior and seniors, correct?

Only Livers had major minutes on the 2018 championship game team.
Currently, Hunter Dickinson is a Freshman and there are two key transfers (grad transfer Mike Smith from Columbia and Chaundee Brown from Wake Forest).

Haven’t paid much attention to their makeup, but I said a month ago before they smashed Purdue they’re a legitimate threat to win it all. Gonzaga will fold, as they always do. I’m predicting Michigan and Baylor as shoe-ins for the Final 4.

(02-21-2021 04:40 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 04:37 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 03:43 PM)esayem Wrote:  John B’s guys are junior and seniors, correct?

Only Livers had major minutes on the 2018 championship game team.
Currently, Hunter Dickinson is a Freshman and there are two key transfers (grad transfer Mike Smith from Columbia and Chaundee Brown from Wake Forest).

Haven’t paid much attention to their makeup, but I said a month ago before they smashed Purdue they’re a legitimate threat to win it all. Gonzaga will fold, as they always do. I’m predicting Michigan and Baylor as shoe-ins for the Final 4.

Had Jordan Poole not enter the 2019 draft, they were seen as a top 5 team. Then he left and so did Belein. Juwan Howard's first season was more surprising due to his lack of experience as HC as opposed to lack of overall roster talent. Having Phil Martello there is sure a factor in their success, but Juwan is running things and is in on recruits which never considered Belein even before the issue which caused his NBA departure.

(02-21-2021 06:02 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 04:40 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 04:37 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 03:43 PM)esayem Wrote:  John B’s guys are junior and seniors, correct?

Only Livers had major minutes on the 2018 championship game team.
Currently, Hunter Dickinson is a Freshman and there are two key transfers (grad transfer Mike Smith from Columbia and Chaundee Brown from Wake Forest).

Haven’t paid much attention to their makeup, but I said a month ago before they smashed Purdue they’re a legitimate threat to win it all. Gonzaga will fold, as they always do. I’m predicting Michigan and Baylor as shoe-ins for the Final 4.

Had Jordan Poole not enter the 2019 draft, they were seen as a top 5 team. Then he left and so did Belein. Juwan Howard's first season was more surprising due to his lack of experience as HC as opposed to lack of overall roster talent. Having Phil Martello there is sure a factor in their success, but Juwan is running things and is in on recruits which never considered Belein even before the issue which caused his NBA departure.

Well, we’ll see if Howard is a great head coach or another Kevin Ollie (former player that struck lightning early).

(02-21-2021 07:05 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 06:02 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 04:40 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 04:37 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 03:43 PM)esayem Wrote:  John B’s guys are junior and seniors, correct?

Only Livers had major minutes on the 2018 championship game team.
Currently, Hunter Dickinson is a Freshman and there are two key transfers (grad transfer Mike Smith from Columbia and Chaundee Brown from Wake Forest).

Haven’t paid much attention to their makeup, but I said a month ago before they smashed Purdue they’re a legitimate threat to win it all. Gonzaga will fold, as they always do. I’m predicting Michigan and Baylor as shoe-ins for the Final 4.

Had Jordan Poole not enter the 2019 draft, they were seen as a top 5 team. Then he left and so did Belein. Juwan Howard's first season was more surprising due to his lack of experience as HC as opposed to lack of overall roster talent. Having Phil Martello there is sure a factor in their success, but Juwan is running things and is in on recruits which never considered Belein even before the issue which caused his NBA departure.

Well, we’ll see if Howard is a great head coach or another Kevin Ollie (former player that struck lightning early).

I think Howard is recruiting a lot better than Ollie did.

(02-21-2021 03:25 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 03:16 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  Michigan turned into a basketball school a few decades ago.

Is that supposed to be an insult? And is this coming from a Virginia fan?

It’s not really a dig at basketball, to me it’s just a fun way to think about a rivalry.

As an outsider, I’ve just enjoyed the Michigan v Ohio State rivalry as the stereotypical “elitist” versus “populist” match-up...both schools are fine, but the rivalry can take special meaning when you can associate a broader societal competition. In this case, it downplays the importance of The Game (OSU is just too dominant)...and gives the Wolverine fans some solace with basketball.

I believe that a similar dynamic also occurs with UT-Austin v Oklahoma games. These sorts of manufactured rivalry stereotypes are overtly promoted internationally...Real Madrid v Barcelona (Spain), River Plate v Boca Juniors (Argentina), or Universidad Catolica v Colo-colo (Chile)...it helps enhance the interest in sports.

Is Howard an exception to the alumni-with-no-college-coaching-experience that fail (Mullin, Ewing, Hardaway, Drexler, etc.)? He has done incredibly impressive work at UM, although one has to ask if it is due to Beilein’s program that he walked into, unlike the others which were rebuild jobs.

(02-22-2021 01:46 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Is Howard an exception to the alumni-with-no-college-coaching-experience that fail (Mullin, Ewing, Hardaway, Drexler, etc.)? He has done incredibly impressive work at UM, although one has to ask if it is due to Beilein’s program that he walked into, unlike the others which were rebuild jobs.

I did not realize hardway failed?

(02-25-2021 10:09 AM)virgosports Wrote:  

(02-22-2021 01:46 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Is Howard an exception to the alumni-with-no-college-coaching-experience that fail (Mullin, Ewing, Hardaway, Drexler, etc.)? He has done incredibly impressive work at UM, although one has to ask if it is due to Beilein’s program that he walked into, unlike the others which were rebuild jobs.

I did not realize hardway failed?

Yeah it's really tough to lump him in with those others.

(02-21-2021 09:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 07:05 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 06:02 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 04:40 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 04:37 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  Only Livers had major minutes on the 2018 championship game team.
Currently, Hunter Dickinson is a Freshman and there are two key transfers (grad transfer Mike Smith from Columbia and Chaundee Brown from Wake Forest).

Haven’t paid much attention to their makeup, but I said a month ago before they smashed Purdue they’re a legitimate threat to win it all. Gonzaga will fold, as they always do. I’m predicting Michigan and Baylor as shoe-ins for the Final 4.

Had Jordan Poole not enter the 2019 draft, they were seen as a top 5 team. Then he left and so did Belein. Juwan Howard's first season was more surprising due to his lack of experience as HC as opposed to lack of overall roster talent. Having Phil Martello there is sure a factor in their success, but Juwan is running things and is in on recruits which never considered Belein even before the issue which caused his NBA departure.

Well, we’ll see if Howard is a great head coach or another Kevin Ollie (former player that struck lightning early).

I think Howard is recruiting a lot better than Ollie did.

He's in a position to recruit better. Ollie wasn't coaching a BE team. Tough to get recruits hyped for Tulane or East Carolina.

(02-25-2021 10:09 AM)virgosports Wrote:  

(02-22-2021 01:46 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Is Howard an exception to the alumni-with-no-college-coaching-experience that fail (Mullin, Ewing, Hardaway, Drexler, etc.)? He has done incredibly impressive work at UM, although one has to ask if it is due to Beilein’s program that he walked into, unlike the others which were rebuild jobs.

I did not realize hardway failed?

Not yet.

But in his first 3 years, he's consistently produced NIT-worthy teams.

(02-25-2021 11:01 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-25-2021 10:09 AM)virgosports Wrote:  

(02-22-2021 01:46 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Is Howard an exception to the alumni-with-no-college-coaching-experience that fail (Mullin, Ewing, Hardaway, Drexler, etc.)? He has done incredibly impressive work at UM, although one has to ask if it is due to Beilein’s program that he walked into, unlike the others which were rebuild jobs.

I did not realize hardway failed?

Not yet.

But in his first 3 years, he's consistently produced NIT-worthy teams.

compared to where they were prior- that's saying something...

3 years prior to him there- KP ranked 75/101/161
1st 3 years him there- KP ranked 56/59/45(this year)

Memphis right now is 7th team out in bracketville(the top bracketologist). It wouldn't take much at all for them to make the tourney(may need to win out regular season, which would include a home win over Houston last game of season) and then not to get upset in the conference tourney.