Actually, most of Texas's power comes from gas. Texas never invested much in renewables.

(02-19-2021 08:04 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Actually, most of Texas's power comes from gas. Texas never invested much in renewables.

More wind than any other state.

what domestic terrorist will CNN pay next to deflect from this story?

(02-20-2021 01:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Fact check link?

(02-20-2021 01:41 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 01:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Fact check link?

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/...4.2021.pdf

That order was issued at 8:51PM on 2/12/2021. The rolling blackouts started at 1:25AM on 2/15/2021.

That order doesn't limit ERCOT, it allows ERCOT to go above environmental limits for reliability purposes, and defines the reporting requirements. That order removes environmental limitation during the emergency for reliability concerns.

So the government was trying to help ERCOT stay online.

"Because the additional generation may result in a conflict with environmental standards and requirements, I am authorizing only the necessary additional generation, with reporting requirements as described below."

This is what happens when you are "controlled" by incompetence. The federal government can neither react fast enough, nor fail to get out of the way when they are needed to do so. So instead of playing super mario kart, Biden should have been on top of this.

Now we have dead Texans because of Biden.

(02-20-2021 02:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  This is what happens when you are "controlled" by incompetence. The federal government can neither react fast enough, nor fail to get out of the way when they are needed to do so. So instead of playing super mario kart, Biden should have been on top of this.

Now we have dead Texans because of Biden.

He doesn't care. Dead people vote for him!

(02-20-2021 02:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  This is what happens when you are "controlled" by incompetence. The federal government can neither react fast enough, nor fail to get out of the way when they are needed to do so. So instead of playing super mario kart, Biden should have been on top of this.

Now we have dead Texans because of Biden.

Texas forms own power grid to avoid federal regulation.
Texas can’t manage own power grid.

Must be Biden’s fault.

(02-20-2021 03:32 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 02:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  This is what happens when you are "controlled" by incompetence. The federal government can neither react fast enough, nor fail to get out of the way when they are needed to do so. So instead of playing super mario kart, Biden should have been on top of this.
Now we have dead Texans because of Biden.

Texas forms own power grid to avoid federal regulation.
Texas can’t manage own power grid.
Must be Biden’s fault.

Overall, including now, Texas power grid has a much better record than national grids.

(02-20-2021 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 01:41 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 01:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Fact check link?

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/...4.2021.pdf

That order was issued at 8:51PM on 2/12/2021. The rolling blackouts started at 1:25AM on 2/15/2021.

That order doesn't limit ERCOT, it allows ERCOT to go above environmental limits for reliability purposes, and defines the reporting requirements. That order removes environmental limitation during the emergency for reliability concerns.

So the government was trying to help ERCOT stay online.

"Because the additional generation may result in a conflict with environmental standards and requirements, I am authorizing only the necessary additional generation, with reporting requirements as described below."

Not a Biden fan at all, but I read it the same way. ERCOT is being authorized to run power plants in a way that might exceed pollution regs during the emergency....at least that how it looks to me.

(02-20-2021 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 01:41 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 01:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Fact check link?

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/...4.2021.pdf

That order was issued at 8:51PM on 2/12/2021. The rolling blackouts started at 1:25AM on 2/15/2021.

That order doesn't limit ERCOT, it allows ERCOT to go above environmental limits for reliability purposes, and defines the reporting requirements. That order removes environmental limitation during the emergency for reliability concerns.

So the government was trying to help ERCOT stay online.

"Because the additional generation may result in a conflict with environmental standards and requirements, I am authorizing only the necessary additional generation, with reporting requirements as described below."

This is criminal

And I thought the killing apprenticeship programs would be the highlight of Biden's week

(02-20-2021 03:56 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 01:41 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 01:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Fact check link?

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/...4.2021.pdf

That order was issued at 8:51PM on 2/12/2021. The rolling blackouts started at 1:25AM on 2/15/2021.

That order doesn't limit ERCOT, it allows ERCOT to go above environmental limits for reliability purposes, and defines the reporting requirements. That order removes environmental limitation during the emergency for reliability concerns.

So the government was trying to help ERCOT stay online.

"Because the additional generation may result in a conflict with environmental standards and requirements, I am authorizing only the necessary additional generation, with reporting requirements as described below."

This is criminal

Criminal to allow ERCOT to generate in ways that might be against environmental regulations in order to attempt to keep the lights on?

(02-20-2021 03:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 01:41 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 01:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Fact check link?

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/...4.2021.pdf

That order was issued at 8:51PM on 2/12/2021. The rolling blackouts started at 1:25AM on 2/15/2021.

That order doesn't limit ERCOT, it allows ERCOT to go above environmental limits for reliability purposes, and defines the reporting requirements. That order removes environmental limitation during the emergency for reliability concerns.

So the government was trying to help ERCOT stay online.

"Because the additional generation may result in a conflict with environmental standards and requirements, I am authorizing only the necessary additional generation, with reporting requirements as described below."

Not a Biden fan at all, but I read it the same way. ERCOT is being authorized to run power plants in a way that might exceed pollution regs during the emergency....at least that how it looks to me.

But its also putting restrictions on what they can do.

Would President Trump have those same restrictions? I think the answer is, of course not.

(02-20-2021 04:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 03:56 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 01:41 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 01:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Fact check link?

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/...4.2021.pdf

That order was issued at 8:51PM on 2/12/2021. The rolling blackouts started at 1:25AM on 2/15/2021.

That order doesn't limit ERCOT, it allows ERCOT to go above environmental limits for reliability purposes, and defines the reporting requirements. That order removes environmental limitation during the emergency for reliability concerns.

So the government was trying to help ERCOT stay online.

"Because the additional generation may result in a conflict with environmental standards and requirements, I am authorizing only the necessary additional generation, with reporting requirements as described below."

This is criminal

Criminal to allow ERCOT to generate in ways that might be against environmental regulations in order to attempt to keep the lights on?

To keep people from freezing. To keep the water going. And you need power to boil the water.

(02-20-2021 04:18 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 03:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 01:41 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 01:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Fact check link?

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/...4.2021.pdf

That order was issued at 8:51PM on 2/12/2021. The rolling blackouts started at 1:25AM on 2/15/2021.

That order doesn't limit ERCOT, it allows ERCOT to go above environmental limits for reliability purposes, and defines the reporting requirements. That order removes environmental limitation during the emergency for reliability concerns.

So the government was trying to help ERCOT stay online.

"Because the additional generation may result in a conflict with environmental standards and requirements, I am authorizing only the necessary additional generation, with reporting requirements as described below."

Not a Biden fan at all, but I read it the same way. ERCOT is being authorized to run power plants in a way that might exceed pollution regs during the emergency....at least that how it looks to me.

But its also putting restrictions on what they can do.

Would President Trump have those same restrictions? I think the answer is, of course not.

It's temporarily removing restrictions that I'm willing to bet weren't put in place since 1/21/20.

It doesn't add any restrictions that I see.

(02-20-2021 04:20 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 04:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 03:56 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 01:41 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  Fact check link?

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/...4.2021.pdf

That order was issued at 8:51PM on 2/12/2021. The rolling blackouts started at 1:25AM on 2/15/2021.

That order doesn't limit ERCOT, it allows ERCOT to go above environmental limits for reliability purposes, and defines the reporting requirements. That order removes environmental limitation during the emergency for reliability concerns.

So the government was trying to help ERCOT stay online.

"Because the additional generation may result in a conflict with environmental standards and requirements, I am authorizing only the necessary additional generation, with reporting requirements as described below."

This is criminal

Criminal to allow ERCOT to generate in ways that might be against environmental regulations in order to attempt to keep the lights on?

To keep people from freezing. To keep the water going. And you need power to boil the water.

Right, I'm at a loss as to how anything in the document is criminal. My question is what is criminal there?

The document is the approval of the federal government for ERCOT to take emergency measures to prevent people from freezing. How is that criminal?

#cancelercot

ERCOT won't exist in another year.

Here is the request from ERCOT, they were granted everything they asked for. It doesn't say what time they submitted the request but it was Sunday 2/14, and they got the response from the feds the same day at 8:51pm. Good turn around time.

Don't know what the fuss is. ERCOT asked for the ability to suspend emissions restrictions to operate plants in ways that produce more power but may not meet emissions certification, and the government granted that request.

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/...4.2021.pdf

'ERCOT has been notified by three major generation owners that their generating units
will, or are likely to, encounter operating restrictions during the next several days due to various
emissions and other limits established in federal permits. These units are described in Exhibit A
to this letter. These units are subject to a number of environmental limitations that may restrict
output. ERCOT has been informed that the operation of gas-fired generators during the next few
days could be impacted by permit restrictions on nitrogen oxide and carbon monoxide emissions,
that coal-fired generators would be impacted by permit restrictions on emissions of sulfur dioxide,
nitrogen oxide, mercury, and carbon monoxide, and that generation fueled by distillate fuel oil
would be subject to various restrictions on operating duration and/or emissions. ERCOT has also
been informed that generators of various fuel types may be subject to wastewater release limits.
ERCOT is also aware that many other generators not included on this list are subject to similar
federal permit limits.
Because the output from all of the generators subject to these restrictions would help
mitigate the impact of rotating outages on Texas consumers during this extreme cold weather
event, ERCOT seeks an immediate order from DOE authorizing the provision of additional energy
from all generating units subject to emissions or other permit limitations. For clarity, this request
is not limited to those generating units identified in Exhibit A. '