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RE: Coachin; the last thread
(02-10-2021 07:22 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 06:23 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 06:13 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 06:04 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 06:02 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  There you go again---knowing my intentions---misquoting me---and you call me a troll LOL

Let me state this a little slower so even you can understand what I say.

P e n n y ---k n o w s a s m u c h a b o u t t h e g a m e o f BB a s a n y c o a c h a l i v e o r d e a d - BB is not hard a simple game --after 40 years----I think Penny has grasped it

I ask the question in bold "Do coaches get better with experience"

You Respond "They Don't"

How is that a misquote...That is a direct quote

If I had already answered your ?------why ask it again---did you not get it the first time ?

Continue your troll...

I'm out.

Continue your judgement of others

Actually it is a sort of compliment because they think you are not as stupid as you are posting so they assume you are trolling
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RE: Coachin; the last thread
(02-11-2021 09:10 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  Obviously both players and coaching are important...

The concept of basketball is easy. Get the ball and throw it in the hoop for offense. For defense, stop the other team from throwing the ball into the hoop. But to act like coaching, teaching and the schemes that go into are "easy" is absurd. That is like saying building a car is "easy" because you are taking some pieces of metal and putting them together.

Good coaches need good players and good players need good coaches to win at the highest level. Learning to coach, learning to teach, learning how to engage teenagers, how to change their mindset (me first, go to guy, etc.), how to consistently motivate teenagers, etc. is not easy.Anybody who claims otherwise is simply trolling or never been around teenagers...

According to one poster in this thread (I won’t reveal his identity), Penny should have mastered the above because he figured out how to bounce a basketball some “40 yrs” ago. Don’t most NBA teams allow their players to focus on another trade while shelling out multi-millions for them to win games? If not, those team owners must be extremely selfish.
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RE: Coachin; the last thread
(02-11-2021 09:36 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 07:22 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 06:23 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 06:13 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 06:04 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  I ask the question in bold "Do coaches get better with experience"

You Respond "They Don't"

How is that a misquote...That is a direct quote

If I had already answered your ?------why ask it again---did you not get it the first time ?

Continue your troll...

I'm out.

Continue your judgement of others

Actually it is a sort of compliment because they think you are not as stupid as you are posting so they assume you are trolling

You know what they say when you point a finger at someone .

We are so blessed to have you on here sharing your brilliant opinions ---I aspire to be like you
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RE: Coachin; the last thread
(02-11-2021 09:10 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  Obviously both players and coaching are important...

The concept of basketball is easy. Get the ball and throw it in the hoop for offense. For defense, stop the other team from throwing the ball into the hoop. But to act like coaching, teaching and the schemes that go into are "easy" is absurd. That is like saying building a car is "easy" because you are taking some pieces of metal and putting them together.

Good coaches need good players and good players need good coaches to win at the highest level. Learning to coach, learning to teach, learning how to engage teenagers, how to change their mindset (me first, go to guy, etc.), how to consistently motivate teenagers, etc. is not easy. Anybody who claims otherwise is simply trolling or never been around teenagers...

Absolutely. Great post. No doubt he’s trolling. But lots of people fall for it.
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RE: Coachin; the last thread
(02-11-2021 11:46 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  
(02-11-2021 09:10 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  Obviously both players and coaching are important...

The concept of basketball is easy. Get the ball and throw it in the hoop for offense. For defense, stop the other team from throwing the ball into the hoop. But to act like coaching, teaching and the schemes that go into are "easy" is absurd. That is like saying building a car is "easy" because you are taking some pieces of metal and putting them together.

Good coaches need good players and good players need good coaches to win at the highest level. Learning to coach, learning to teach, learning how to engage teenagers, how to change their mindset (me first, go to guy, etc.), how to consistently motivate teenagers, etc. is not easy. Anybody who claims otherwise is simply trolling or never been around teenagers...

Absolutely. Great post. No doubt he’s trolling. But lots of people fall for it.

Sigh----another poster that knows my intent---even more so than even I do LOL
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RE: Coachin; the last thread
(02-11-2021 11:52 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(02-11-2021 11:46 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  
(02-11-2021 09:10 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  Obviously both players and coaching are important...

The concept of basketball is easy. Get the ball and throw it in the hoop for offense. For defense, stop the other team from throwing the ball into the hoop. But to act like coaching, teaching and the schemes that go into are "easy" is absurd. That is like saying building a car is "easy" because you are taking some pieces of metal and putting them together.

Good coaches need good players and good players need good coaches to win at the highest level. Learning to coach, learning to teach, learning how to engage teenagers, how to change their mindset (me first, go to guy, etc.), how to consistently motivate teenagers, etc. is not easy. Anybody who claims otherwise is simply trolling or never been around teenagers...

Absolutely. Great post. No doubt he’s trolling. But lots of people fall for it.

Sigh----another poster that knows my intent---even more so than even I do LOL

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RE: Coachin; the last thread
lol
so many intents
so little time
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RE: Coachin; the last thread
(02-10-2021 11:01 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 10:21 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 08:46 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 07:17 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 06:24 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Someone once posted on here that it aint' the Xs and O's it's the Jimmys and Joes.

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Bear Bryant, a decent coach in his own right, once said he could beat you with his players or your players. It was about coaching.

Yeah. But he said that while he was signing 75 kids to scholly in one signing class - just to keep the other schools from getting good players.

That was a common practice.

Yes it was. I hear Bama and ND took it too a new level though. Nothing illegal about it. But it is a testament to Bear's private realization that talent mattered, contrary to what he proclaimed publicly.
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RE: Coachin; the last thread
(02-11-2021 12:40 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 11:01 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 10:21 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
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(02-10-2021 07:17 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Post 116

Bear Bryant, a decent coach in his own right, once said he could beat you with his players or your players. It was about coaching.

Yeah. But he said that while he was signing 75 kids to scholly in one signing class - just to keep the other schools from getting good players.

That was a common practice.

Yes it was. I hear Bama and ND took it too a new level though. Nothing illegal about it. But it is a testament to Bear's private realization that talent mattered, contrary to what he proclaimed publicly.

And UCLA in basketball. Remember Swen Nater? Bill Walton back up was considered second best center in the country
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RE: Coachin; the last thread
(02-10-2021 08:46 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 07:17 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 06:24 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Someone once posted on here that it aint' the Xs and O's it's the Jimmys and Joes.

Post 116

Bear Bryant, a decent coach in his own right, once said he could beat you with his players or your players. It was about coaching.

He was also adamant that he could beat you with only white players...until he couldn't and changed how he recruited.
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(02-11-2021 03:28 PM)micman Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 08:46 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 07:17 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 06:24 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Someone once posted on here that it aint' the Xs and O's it's the Jimmys and Joes.

Post 116

Bear Bryant, a decent coach in his own right, once said he could beat you with his players or your players. It was about coaching.

He was also adamant that he could beat you with only white players...until he couldn't and changed how he recruited.

Probably so.
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(02-11-2021 12:15 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  lol
so many intents
so little time

There aren't enough psychiatrist to help all the neurotics on this thread much less this board. Add COVID to that and all we can do is wait for the inevitable grand mal blow up and ban.

I got my popcorn.
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(02-12-2021 07:23 AM)ImaTiger Wrote:  
(02-11-2021 12:15 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  lol
so many intents
so little time

There aren't enough psychiatrist to help all the neurotics on this thread much less this board. Add COVID to that and all we can do is wait for the inevitable grand mal blow up and ban.

I got my popcorn.

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(02-12-2021 07:23 AM)ImaTiger Wrote:  
(02-11-2021 12:15 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  lol
so many intents
so little time

There aren't enough psychiatrist to help all the neurotics on this thread much less this board. Add COVID to that and all we can do is wait for the inevitable grand mal blow up and ban.

I got my popcorn.

good call...I got my hot bbq seasoning too.
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(02-08-2021 12:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
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(02-07-2021 10:11 PM)hartlessnhere Wrote:  What Tigerx3 says is the truth. Playing together as a team requires time spent with each other/getting to know your teammates style of play and vice versa.

We should've seen this young squad make a big jump this season but from not seeing tournament play, not playing pick-up games, not having normal summer work outs and being sick or injured has its toll.

young squad ? a lot of them have been playing for Penny for year's

I don’t think that’s what that means.

The statement was --(a young team not having time to practice or getting to know your teammates style of play)----however we have some players that have been playing together and for Penny for years. Plus we return 4 starters. Last year we were saying the same thing---that we were so young----saying wait until next year . Plus players improve more from year 1 to year 2 than---plus EVERY school in the country has went through the same thing. Heck with us having players that have been playing for Penny for years ---and returning 4 starters ---COVID should have given us an advantage

Hey ,I am the Penny defender----just tired of outlandish statements and always excuses . Remember I am the guy that defended Penny when people were saying that he didn't or couldn't even install an offense-----AFTER BEING IN BB HIS ENTIRE LIFE---oh yeah the Penny needs more experience crowd ----that he learned NOTHING from the hundreds of coaches he has been around his entire life. People seem to think the game of BB is akin to physics .

In all fairness, I shouldn't single out unique posts when all of them are full blown crazy.

Quote:Am I correct that he's only been playing 3-4 years? Seems like I heard that. And he really is a high school senior. But yeah, he does.

How many does he need ?

Quote:Hey ,I am the Penny defender----just tired of outlandish statements and always excuses .

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I had to come back to this. Outstanding. RIP Levon. Thanks for the memories and the music.
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(02-10-2021 10:45 AM)ImaTiger Wrote:  Wait wait wait... the debate that started sometime ago was 'can Penny coach'. Some said no.

I say he can. I put it that the performance of the team in all aspects of the game the past 3 weeks indicate this to be so.

The discussions above are all about rating his coaching or qualifying his coaching to a lesser or greater degree. But he can coach.

A comedian tells jokes, a guitar player strums and picks, a drummer keeps the beat, Penny coaches. Whether our coach is John Bonham or Neal Pert or Dave Grohl or Jason Bonham or Ringo Starr (yes those drummers are listed in order of skill) isn't for debate. We got a real coach.

Go Tigers (drum roll) Go {crash}!

FIFY. Sorry, you left out the best one...
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(02-12-2021 08:01 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 10:45 AM)ImaTiger Wrote:  Wait wait wait... the debate that started sometime ago was 'can Penny coach'. Some said no.

I say he can. I put it that the performance of the team in all aspects of the game the past 3 weeks indicate this to be so.

The discussions above are all about rating his coaching or qualifying his coaching to a lesser or greater degree. But he can coach.

A comedian tells jokes, a guitar player strums and picks, a drummer keeps the beat, Penny coaches. Whether our coach is John Bonham or Neal Pert or Dave Grohl or Jason Bonham or Ringo Starr (yes those drummers are listed in order of skill) isn't for debate. We got a real coach.

Go Tigers (drum roll) Go {crash}!

FIFY. Sorry, you left out the best one...

Pert vs Bonham... I give Pert the nod. I know most sites give it to Bonham, but since I was putting his son (who is towards the bottom of the list); I didn't want to flood the list with Bonham's.
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(02-12-2021 09:01 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 08:01 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 10:45 AM)ImaTiger Wrote:  Wait wait wait... the debate that started sometime ago was 'can Penny coach'. Some said no.

I say he can. I put it that the performance of the team in all aspects of the game the past 3 weeks indicate this to be so.

The discussions above are all about rating his coaching or qualifying his coaching to a lesser or greater degree. But he can coach.

A comedian tells jokes, a guitar player strums and picks, a drummer keeps the beat, Penny coaches. Whether our coach is John Bonham or Neal Pert or Dave Grohl or Jason Bonham or Ringo Starr (yes those drummers are listed in order of skill) isn't for debate. We got a real coach.

Go Tigers (drum roll) Go {crash}!

FIFY. Sorry, you left out the best one...

Pert vs Bonham... I give Pert the nod. I know most sites give it to Bonham, but since I was putting his son (who is towards the bottom of the list); I didn't want to flood the list with Bonham's.

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