(02-08-2021 04:41 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 04:17 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 04:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Not exactly sure why anyone would dislike a commercial calling for moderation and not political extremism but that’s where we are, I suppose.

maybe I'm not interested in being preached at by someone that hasn't been a common man for 40 years.

Or a guy who has used every aspect of his public persona to blast President Trump and his family personally. Springsteen called for an “exorcism in our nations capital.”
Another liberal hypocrite with a platform.

Nobody on that side or in Corporate America was preaching unity for the last 4 years, so they can take their Fiat soft metal "Jeeps" and hypocrisy and shove it where the Sun doesn't shine.

Jeep ain't been jeep for 20 years

(02-08-2021 04:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Not exactly sure why anyone would dislike a commercial calling for moderation and not political extremism but that’s where we are, I suppose.

I disliked it because it did a crappy job of "calling for moderation."

Nearly all of the images were of a rural lifestyle. How is that "inclusive" or "moderate?"

Putting a cowboy in Kansas was really odd. Kansas is mostly grain farmers, not ranchers. Farmers don't wear cowboy hats. Was the effeminate cowboy with earrings supposed to be a sign of inclusiveness?

*edit* - I had no idea that was supposed to be someone famous


And the script... the first 3-4 lines showed promise. But the rest was largely either pointless or divisive statements.

What "middle" is "between servant and citizen?" If the servant does not exist to serve the citizen, then he is, by definition, not a servant.

What "middle" is "between our freedom and our fear?" I roundly reject the idea that the two concepts are on the same continuum.

"Freedom is not just the property of the fortunate few; it belongs to us all." - Taken by itself, this is very true. But what does that have to do with anything else in the monologue? How does that explain the "middle" between fear and freedom?

"(The middle) is what connects us." - We are obviously not connected to each other by some geographical "middle." So he must be referring to a common language, culture, and core political beliefs. But liberals strongly disagree with this statement. And libertarians reject the idea as well, preferring to think of us as individuals.

"The very soil we stand on is common ground." - like much of the script, it's a vacuous statement that means nothing.

"We can make it to the mountaintop, through the desert... and we will cross this divide." - What divide is he speaking of? The divide between servant and citizen? The divide between our freedom and our fear? Or is he referring to a political divide? I disagree completely that finding a "middle ground" is something that can be accomplished by a quest. That sort of thinking is counterproductive to finding a solution.


The whole thing came off like a Madison Avenue exec was trying to preach to his idea of what Red America is like.

(02-08-2021 03:41 PM)VA49er Wrote:  It took me almost the entire commercial to realize that was Bruce Springsteen.

I didn't know until someone told me. they tried to play on religious themes with the multiple shots of crosses and ending in front of a country church. I can't stand Bruce, won't ever buy another Jeep.

(02-08-2021 04:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Not exactly sure why anyone would dislike a commercial calling for moderation and not political extremism but that’s where we are, I suppose.

Ho, ho, ho, what have we here. A soy boy chastizing us because we didn't like the commercial about moderation, so he says. Hey soy boy, political extremism is your partys middle name. Even now they're trying to impeach an EX-PRESIDENT.

You're a dumb Schiff, let me be a Liberal for one minute, "I feel for your stupidity". See "feelings".

I think some folks are just unhappy and need to be mad at something.

(02-08-2021 06:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I think some folks are just unhappy and need to be mad at something.

Yep, we're unhappy that there are so many stupid people like you. Do you want to make us happy? Then take a long walk on a short pier.

Ah, now that made me "feel" happy. You know, "feelings".

(02-08-2021 06:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I think some folks are just unhappy and need to be mad at something.

Yes. Eventually Democrats will move on to issues, but your right, currently the most Democrats are just bags of raw anger seething about most any random statement that somehow conflicts with their socialist authoritarian views. There’s just something wrong with them deep down inside.

(02-08-2021 06:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I think some folks are just unhappy and need to be mad at something.

You’re kidding right?
And you wonder why some of us call those on your side hypocrites.

(02-08-2021 06:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I think some folks are just unhappy and need to be mad at something.

I agree.

For me, my emotion about this commercial is confusion, not anger. Definitely not anger. The commercial was so nonsensical that I had to watch it 3-4 times just to figure out what he was actually trying to say.

It made sense when I read about Bruce Springsteen being involved. I was like "oh, this is an artist's idea of what the concept means. No wonder it makes no sense to a rational person."

(02-08-2021 04:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Not exactly sure why anyone would dislike a commercial calling for moderation and not political extremism but that’s where we are, I suppose.

It's that old fashioned actions speak louder than words thing.

(02-08-2021 04:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Not exactly sure why anyone would dislike a commercial calling for moderation and not political extremism but that’s where we are, I suppose.

When one side is becoming ever more radical in its own demands, and demanding "unity" from the other, this smacks as more a call for acquiescence to political extremism than a call for moderation.

Memo to the left: I don't want to go where you want to lead. If you want unity, you need to change your direction.

(02-08-2021 08:50 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 06:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I think some folks are just unhappy and need to be mad at something.

I agree.

For me, my emotion about this commercial is confusion, not anger. Definitely not anger. The commercial was so nonsensical that I had to watch it 3-4 times just to figure out what he was actually trying to say.

It made sense when I read about Bruce Springsteen being involved. I was like "oh, this is an artist's idea of what the concept means. No wonder it makes no sense to a rational person."

Bwahaha

Thanks for the laugh mate



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(02-08-2021 04:41 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 04:17 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 04:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Not exactly sure why anyone would dislike a commercial calling for moderation and not political extremism but that’s where we are, I suppose.

maybe I'm not interested in being preached at by someone that hasn't been a common man for 40 years.

Or a guy who has used every aspect of his public persona to blast President Trump and his family personally. Springsteen called for an “exorcism in our nations capital.”
Another liberal hypocrite with a platform.

It wasn't just Trump he blasted, he basically called every Trump supporter every name in the book, now he wants to talk about unity? He can go fack himself.

As far as Jeep/Stellantis/whatever they are this week, they had a great opportunity to not spread a heaping pile of dung. They could have done something like they did last year with Bill Murry and the groundhog and actually used the advertisement to, I don't know, be lighthearted and advertise their vehicles. But no, they chose that hill to die on and I hope it costs them dearly as I'm pretty sure the flaming liberal crowd that liked the ad prefers their Priuses and Subarus to Jeeps anyway so all they did was sh*t on their core crowd.

Clearly Subarus are known for being gay favorites but Jeeps too? I did not know that...

No.

Who the funk cares what vehicle a gay individual drives. It's 2021, your homophobic side is showing.

(02-09-2021 08:18 AM)Bearcat419 Wrote:  Who the funk cares what vehicle a gay individual drives. It's 2021, your homophobic side is showing.

Nobody is scared of queers. Come up with a new word.

(02-09-2021 08:18 AM)Bearcat419 Wrote:  Who the funk cares what vehicle a gay individual drives. It's 2021, your homophobic side is showing.

Advertisers?

Springsteen is one of those fake blue collar pretenders.