13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. 14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. 15 My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. 16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.
13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. 14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. 15 My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. 16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.
13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. 14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. 15 My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. 16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.
(01-25-2021 10:41 AM)Ken Barna Wrote: Dear Broncos and Boca Rocket,
To quote Vice-President Harris; "How many laws have been passed regarding men's health or bodies"?
(01-25-2021 10:41 AM)Ken Barna Wrote: Dear Broncos and Boca Rocket,
To quote Vice-President Harris; "How many laws have been passed regarding men's health or bodies"?
Men's Health Act of 2006 is one.
At what point does a mother's reproductive rights supercede a developing child's?
African Americans make up about 13.5% of the US
population yet account for 36.5% of abortions.
Margaret Sanger would be proud.
(This post was last modified: 01-25-2021 12:25 PM by Boca Rocket.)
(01-25-2021 10:41 AM)Ken Barna Wrote: Dear Broncos and Boca Rocket,
To quote Vice-President Harris; "How many laws have been passed regarding men's health or bodies"?
Men's Health Act of 2006 is one.
At what point does a mother's reproductive rights supercede a developing child's?
African Americans make up about 13.5% of the US
population yet account for 36.5% of abortions.
Margaret Sanger would be proud.
(01-25-2021 11:53 AM)NIU007 Wrote: Republicans would have a much better point if they were actually pro-life instead of just pro-birth.
Democrats, Libertarians and all stripes have an equal bite at the apple.
But to engage and have a conversation ... what do you suggest or imply?
They don't seem to care what happens to people after they're born. The only thing that matters is money. There's no money for food stamps, mental health, medical care, or social services or anything like that - but there's $750 billion in the budget for the military every year which still isn't enough. But there's money enough to give tax cuts to large corporations and billionaires. They will complain about 4 people dead in Benghazi but completely ignore the thousands of American lives lost in Iraq (and probably tens of thousands of serious injuries) and thousands of Iraqi lives - on false pretenses. They pretend racism doesn't exist. They'd rather tear children away from their parents at the border, then treat them like humans. It seems that until many Republicans (not all of them obviously) have something affect them personally, it isn't a problem. E.g. somebody in their own family comes out as gay - NOW they will support gay rights. But until then, no.
(This post was last modified: 01-25-2021 02:17 PM by NIU007.)
(01-25-2021 10:41 AM)Ken Barna Wrote: Dear Broncos and Boca Rocket,
To quote Vice-President Harris; "How many laws have been passed regarding men's health or bodies"?
(01-25-2021 11:53 AM)NIU007 Wrote: Republicans would have a much better point if they were actually pro-life instead of just pro-birth.
Democrats, Libertarians and all stripes have an equal bite at the apple.
But to engage and have a conversation ... what do you suggest or imply?
They don't seem to care what happens to people after they're born. The only thing that matters is money. There's no money for food stamps, mental health, medical care, or social services or anything like that - but there's $750 billion in the budget for the military every year which still isn't enough. But there's money enough to give tax cuts to large corporations and billionaires. They will complain about 4 people dead in Benghazi but completely ignore the thousands of American lives lost in Iraq (and probably tens of thousands of serious injuries) and thousands of Iraqi lives - on false pretenses. They pretend racism doesn't exist. They'd rather tear children away from their parents at the border, then treat them like humans. It seems that until many Republicans (not all of them obviously) have something affect them personally, it isn't a problem. E.g. somebody in their own family comes out as gay - NOW they will support gay rights. But until then, no.
Way to make generalizations. While we’re at it lets “generalize and stereotype liberals. They only care about race because they want the minority vote. They want to raise taxes because government programs cost money. They care more about other countries then they do for America. They want migrants and open boarder because those migrants will eventually vote for them and pay taxes for their programs. They want women votes so they are pro abortion. They think that a male (who personally identifies as a female even though he has a pen!s) should be allowed to then play women sports. They won’t actually ever say a key word such as “abortion”, or “terrorist”. They play the race card only when it benefits their own agenda. They want the pink vote. They remove the word “illegal” alien” because they think its offensive. They don’t work hard.
(01-25-2021 11:53 AM)NIU007 Wrote: Republicans would have a much better point if they were actually pro-life instead of just pro-birth.
Democrats, Libertarians and all stripes have an equal bite at the apple.
But to engage and have a conversation ... what do you suggest or imply?
They don't seem to care what happens to people after they're born. The only thing that matters is money. There's no money for food stamps, mental health, medical care, or social services or anything like that - but there's $750 billion in the budget for the military every year which still isn't enough. But there's money enough to give tax cuts to large corporations and billionaires. They will complain about 4 people dead in Benghazi but completely ignore the thousands of American lives lost in Iraq (and probably tens of thousands of serious injuries) and thousands of Iraqi lives - on false pretenses. They pretend racism doesn't exist. They'd rather tear children away from their parents at the border, then treat them like humans. It seems that until many Republicans (not all of them obviously) have something affect them personally, it isn't a problem. E.g. somebody in their own family comes out as gay - NOW they will support gay rights. But until then, no.
Way to make generalizations. While we’re at it lets “generalize and stereotype liberals. They only care about race because they want the minority vote. They want to raise taxes because government programs cost money. They care more about other countries then they do for America. They want migrants and open boarder because those migrants will eventually vote for them and pay taxes for their programs. They want women votes so they are pro abortion. They think that a male (who personally identifies as a female even though he has a pen!s) should be allowed to then play women sports. They won’t actually ever say a key word such as “abortion”, or “terrorist”. They play the race card only when it benefits their own agenda. They want the pink vote. They remove the word “illegal” alien” because they think its offensive. They don’t work hard.
NIU still sucks
Except what I said was actually true. I'm not talking about politicians, I'm talking about the average person. And none of what you said says anything about not caring about human life.
(01-25-2021 11:53 AM)NIU007 Wrote: Republicans would have a much better point if they were actually pro-life instead of just pro-birth.
Democrats, Libertarians and all stripes have an equal bite at the apple.
But to engage and have a conversation ... what do you suggest or imply?
They don't seem to care what happens to people after they're born. The only thing that matters is money. There's no money for food stamps, mental health, medical care, or social services or anything like that - but there's $750 billion in the budget for the military every year which still isn't enough. But there's money enough to give tax cuts to large corporations and billionaires. They will complain about 4 people dead in Benghazi but completely ignore the thousands of American lives lost in Iraq (and probably tens of thousands of serious injuries) and thousands of Iraqi lives - on false pretenses. They pretend racism doesn't exist. They'd rather tear children away from their parents at the border, then treat them like humans. It seems that until many Republicans (not all of them obviously) have something affect them personally, it isn't a problem. E.g. somebody in their own family comes out as gay - NOW they will support gay rights. But until then, no.
I think I understand what you're trying to say ... that the irony is some who are pro-life (birth) are less than supportive to that life after birth (your list of examples). Which is rather ironic and hypocritical. Do I understand correctly?
(01-25-2021 11:53 AM)NIU007 Wrote: Republicans would have a much better point if they were actually pro-life instead of just pro-birth.
Democrats, Libertarians and all stripes have an equal bite at the apple.
But to engage and have a conversation ... what do you suggest or imply?
They don't seem to care what happens to people after they're born. The only thing that matters is money. There's no money for food stamps, mental health, medical care, or social services or anything like that - but there's $750 billion in the budget for the military every year which still isn't enough. But there's money enough to give tax cuts to large corporations and billionaires. They will complain about 4 people dead in Benghazi but completely ignore the thousands of American lives lost in Iraq (and probably tens of thousands of serious injuries) and thousands of Iraqi lives - on false pretenses. They pretend racism doesn't exist. They'd rather tear children away from their parents at the border, then treat them like humans. It seems that until many Republicans (not all of them obviously) have something affect them personally, it isn't a problem. E.g. somebody in their own family comes out as gay - NOW they will support gay rights. But until then, no.
I think I understand what you're trying to say ... that the irony is some who are pro-life (birth) are less than supportive to that life after birth (your list of examples). Which is rather ironic and hypocritical. Do I understand correctly?
That's all I'm really saying (probably not very well). Particularly when people say they're Christian, much of the behavior seems rather callous to me.
Dear Boca Rocket,
The Men's Health Act, that you quoted, does nothing to restrict what men do, unlike abortion laws that want to restrict what a woman can do with her body.
In any case, pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion. It means a woman should have a choice in the matter.
(01-26-2021 11:11 AM)Ken Barna Wrote: Dear Boca Rocket,
The Men's Health Act, that you quoted, does nothing to restrict what men do, unlike abortion laws that want to restrict what a woman can do with her body.
In any case, pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion. It means a woman should have a choice in the matter.
Our drug laws
By definition.
Restrict what men (and women) can do with their own bodies.
(01-26-2021 11:11 AM)Ken Barna Wrote: Dear Boca Rocket,
The Men's Health Act, that you quoted, does nothing to restrict what men do, unlike abortion laws that want to restrict what a woman can do with her body.
In any case, pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion. It means a woman should have a choice in the matter.
Go back to what you posted. I just responded to exactly what was in your post. Again the restriction
of the woman's rights are superceded by the developing child's and at what point that occurs.
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