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(01-15-2021 08:10 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  [Image: 1.png]
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I really was not that aware that ULM had so few winning seasons I guess because I always saw them upsetting good teams or playing good teams really close

the lack of overall winning seasons is something to address for sure along with budget and fan support, but when you compare ULM over the last 20 seasons to one of the preeminent CUSA programs and probably one of the very top G5 programs out there with a massive budget, the best recruiting grounds in the USA, yuge fan support, and just everything going for them and a real sleeping giant well ULM compares pretty favorably

there is .6 average wins per season difference and .25 average losses per season difference

there is a big bowl game difference, but that is because top teams that are CUSA powerhouses and G5 standouts get bowl bids even with losing seasons even if they do get throttled on those bowl games continuously

so really ULM is just a 9 win season or two and a bowl win or two away from having the same on the field results as a G5 powerhouse/preeminent CUSA program and probably one of if not the top G5 to P5 expansion candidate when that time comes

Yeah, don’t know what you’re smoking, but North Texas isn’t a P5 expansion candidate, to anyone.
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Yeah. Nobody outside of the AAC/MWC/BYU has a prayer of that.
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(01-15-2021 08:10 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  so really ULM is just a 9 win season or two and a bowl win or two away from having the same on the field results as a G5 powerhouse/preeminent CUSA program and probably one of if not the top G5 to P5 expansion candidate when that time comes

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(01-11-2021 11:48 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(01-11-2021 12:31 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  Let’s all hope Bowden takes them to be kings of the SBC West and then in a few years the TV revenue and increased attendance makes them a more attractive athletic program in the conference for basketball and other sports. I see it now

ULM wins 3 straight SB west titles from like 2023-2025 and gets our first NY6 bid in one of those years and all the rest of us looks dumb having doubted them.

I REALLY like our coaching staff. It’s a mix of your future stars and older experienced name coaches with P-5 head coaching and coordinator experience. Definitely not a staff I thought would ever be at ULM. I will try to fill in some blanks tonight.

With Rods son coming in ULM could potentially push for 6 wins this year. I know people rag on Rich but he's been successful everywhere he has coached except for Michigan; he was hired too late for the spread craze and was never going to be given a chance to get his program built with his guys there.

If Bowden could win at Akron, surely he can win at ULM in what is a conference with a profile on the rise aided by C-USA and the MWC leaving ESPN.
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(01-18-2021 12:16 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  [quote='Arrowhead' pid='17216216' ]

If Bowden could win at Akron, surely he can win at ULM in what is a conference with a profile on the rise aided by C-USA and the MWC leaving ESPN.

I believe Bowden & Co. will get ULM back to winning. Too good of a staff.

Then again... I also thought Viator was going to be the guy...
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I did too and Viator did start turning it around until Napier came in and cherry picked our staff. V just didn’t have a deep enough well to go to. I don’t think that will be a problem for Bowden. I believe all of Bowden’s staff has P-5 coaching experience from winning programs. Shouldn’t have to back fill from Nichols St. or McNeese anymore.
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(01-15-2021 08:10 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  [Image: 1.png]
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I really was not that aware that ULM had so few winning seasons I guess because I always saw them upsetting good teams or playing good teams really close

the lack of overall winning seasons is something to address for sure along with budget and fan support, but when you compare ULM over the last 20 seasons to one of the preeminent CUSA programs and probably one of the very top G5 programs out there with a massive budget, the best recruiting grounds in the USA, yuge fan support, and just everything going for them and a real sleeping giant well ULM compares pretty favorably

there is .6 average wins per season difference and .25 average losses per season difference

there is a big bowl game difference, but that is because top teams that are CUSA powerhouses and G5 standouts get bowl bids even with losing seasons even if they do get throttled on those bowl games continuously

so really ULM is just a 9 win season or two and a bowl win or two away from having the same on the field results as a G5 powerhouse/preeminent CUSA program and probably one of if not the top G5 to P5 expansion candidate when that time comes

excellent satire. 10/10
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Dumping ULM and bringing in LaTech and USM would take the Belt up another notch and bring them into MWC territory.
01-21-2021 10:55 AM
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ULM isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Now if the Bowden/Rich Rod experiment doesn’t work who knows. We are trying very, very hard to elevate our program in my opinion for the first time since we have been FCS.
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(01-21-2021 10:55 AM)Shox Wrote:  Dumping ULM and bringing in LaTech and USM would take the Belt up another notch and bring them into MWC territory.

The Sun Belt has now entered MWC territory as is. Expect 2021 to me more like 2020 rankings order of the G5.
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It's a numbers game. If you assume a 4-4 conference record (for the sake of conversation) you can almost pencil in losing seasons for the next 3 or 4 years. Scheduling two P5 opponents each season and difficult to win G5 games like Army is scheduling suicide. Bowden has to get really good really fast or he's staring at a bunch of 6-6 seasons at best with little-to-no bowl invites.


2021 - @Kentucky, @LSU, Liberty
2022 - @Texas, @Alabama, @Army
2023 - Army, Lamar, @TexasAM, @OleMiss
2025 - @Alabama, @Nebraska

To be fair I feel the same way about GS's 2024 OOC schedule - we could really make some noise that year, but heaven forbid we aren't good that season and you're already looking at starting in an 0-3 hole.

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(01-21-2021 10:55 AM)Shox Wrote:  Dumping ULM and bringing in LaTech and USM would take the Belt up another notch and bring them into MWC territory.

We're already in MWC territory.

SBC was just slightly behind the MWC in 2019. In 2020 the SBC finished ahead of the MWC by a lot.
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(01-21-2021 10:55 AM)Shox Wrote:  Dumping ULM and bringing in LaTech and USM would take the Belt up another notch and bring them into MWC territory.

I don't think anyone on this board wants LA Tech as a conference member at the expense of ULM. I don't think we want LA Tech even with ULM in conference. We don't LA Tech at all.

That school in Ruston is fine in the C-USA... It has seemingly been decided if we ever expand or have to replace a team that USM, UAB, and Marshall would be the 3 high on the priority list.
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I say we let ‘em rot
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(01-21-2021 11:36 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  It's a numbers game. If you assume a 4-4 conference record (for the sake of conversation) you can almost pencil in losing seasons for the next 3 or 4 years. Scheduling two P5 opponents each season and difficult to win G5 games like Army is scheduling suicide. Bowden has to get really good really fast or he's staring at a bunch of 6-6 seasons at best with little-to-no bowl invites.


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2022 - @Texas, @Alabama, @Army
2023 - Army, Lamar, @TexasAM, @OleMiss
2025 - @Alabama, @Nebraska

To be fair I feel the same way about GS's 2024 OOC schedule - we could really make some noise that year, but heaven forbid we aren't good that season and you're already looking at starting in an 0-3 hole.

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Many times these $$ games are bought out or moved to future years as well. I wouldnt be surprised if a few of these drop off of the schedule.
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(01-21-2021 10:55 AM)Shox Wrote:  Dumping ULM and bringing in LaTech and USM would take the Belt up another notch and bring them into MWC territory.

If ULM were "dumped" and the SBC dropped to 9, why would the SBC invite 2 and go to 11 football teams?

Based on the CFP payout, 10 is the sweet spot for any G conference! Now if ULM were to fold up shop, then I think all of us Belt fans would be in agreement on inviting USM to replace the Warhawks in the west. With that said, I don't want to see ULM go anywhere and I hope Bowden turns their program around to compete with UL and stAte in the west.

The noise of bringing in CUSA programs is draining. The conference had an opportunity to invite any current SBC program into CUSA back when realignment was happening and took a flyer on everyone here. There is no point in us throwing anyone of them a lifeline at this point. Let the CUSA leadership figure out their own mess...WE GOOD!!!
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(01-21-2021 01:54 PM)moonshine Wrote:  
(01-21-2021 10:55 AM)Shox Wrote:  Dumping ULM and bringing in LaTech and USM would take the Belt up another notch and bring them into MWC territory.

If ULM were "dumped" and the SBC dropped to 9, why would the SBC invite 2 and go to 11 football teams?

Based on the CFP payout, 10 is the sweet spot for any G conference! Now if ULM were to fold up shop, then I think all of us Belt fans would be in agreement on inviting USM to replace the Warhawks in the west. With that said, I don't want to see ULM go anywhere and I hope Bowden turns their program around to compete with UL and stAte in the west.

The noise of bringing in CUSA programs is draining. The conference had an opportunity to invite any current SBC program into CUSA back when realignment was happening and took a flyer on everyone here. There is no point in us throwing anyone of them a lifeline at this point. Let the CUSA leadership figure out their own mess...WE GOOD!!!

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a couple of more wins here and there and NO conference G5 or P5 would say no to this AWAKENING GIANT!!!!
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(01-21-2021 01:15 PM)ULMhawk Wrote:  
(01-21-2021 11:36 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  It's a numbers game. If you assume a 4-4 conference record (for the sake of conversation) you can almost pencil in losing seasons for the next 3 or 4 years. Scheduling two P5 opponents each season and difficult to win G5 games like Army is scheduling suicide. Bowden has to get really good really fast or he's staring at a bunch of 6-6 seasons at best with little-to-no bowl invites.


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2022 - @Texas, @Alabama, @Army
2023 - Army, Lamar, @TexasAM, @OleMiss
2025 - @Alabama, @Nebraska

To be fair I feel the same way about GS's 2024 OOC schedule - we could really make some noise that year, but heaven forbid we aren't good that season and you're already looking at starting in an 0-3 hole.

Boise
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Many times these $$ games are bought out or moved to future years as well. I wouldnt be surprised if a few of these drop off of the schedule.

Terry Bowden though could get ULM to a point where the only team that is probably out of reach is Alabama, and they are that way with a lot of teams even at the P5 level. Texas and A&M will be very tough but Kentucky, Nebraska, Ole Miss, Army, and Liberty shouldn't be seen as impossible.
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(01-21-2021 01:54 PM)moonshine Wrote:  
(01-21-2021 10:55 AM)Shox Wrote:  Dumping ULM and bringing in LaTech and USM would take the Belt up another notch and bring them into MWC territory.

If ULM were "dumped" and the SBC dropped to 9, why would the SBC invite 2 and go to 11 football teams?

Based on the CFP payout, 10 is the sweet spot for any G conference! Now if ULM were to fold up shop, then I think all of us Belt fans would be in agreement on inviting USM to replace the Warhawks in the west. With that said, I don't want to see ULM go anywhere and I hope Bowden turns their program around to compete with UL and stAte in the west.

The noise of bringing in CUSA programs is draining. The conference had an opportunity to invite any current SBC program into CUSA back when realignment was happening and took a flyer on everyone here. There is no point in us throwing anyone of them a lifeline at this point. Let the CUSA leadership figure out their own mess...WE GOOD!!!

I used to want to increase but the more I think about it the more I enjoy our little conference. We are the FUN Belt for a reason. I still think in the future USM & Marshall could be teams considered because I don't think they hurt our conference at all.
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(01-21-2021 11:36 AM)balanced_view Wrote:  
(01-21-2021 10:55 AM)Shox Wrote:  Dumping ULM and bringing in LaTech and USM would take the Belt up another notch and bring them into MWC territory.

The Sun Belt has now entered MWC territory as is. Expect 2021 to me more like 2020 rankings order of the G5.

Very true.
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