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(01-15-2021 11:44 AM)jaybird44 Wrote:  OK, I cannot tell you how i know this,but i believe OLD DOMINION is looking to find a way to leave. I think conference usa will be dramatically different next year. ODU cannot afford to be in CUSA much longer. It does not make sense.

I hope you're right, as long as its someplace BETTER. As bad as CUSA is, there are worse options. If it gets us in a multi-bid basketball league somehow, I'll be happy. Your "next year" comment makes me think you anticipate something quickly.

(01-15-2021 12:21 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 11:44 AM)jaybird44 Wrote:  OK, I cannot tell you how i know this,but i believe OLD DOMINION is looking to find a way to leave. I think conference usa will be dramatically different next year. ODU cannot afford to be in CUSA much longer. It does not make sense.

I hope you're right, as long as its someplace BETTER. As bad as CUSA is, there are worse options. If it gets us in a multi-bid basketball league somehow, I'll be happy. Your "next year" comment makes me think you anticipate something quickly.

I can't think of any worse options personally. Worst case is basketball lands in another 1-bid league, but everyone will be closer and attending the conference tournament will be possible.

(01-15-2021 12:26 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:21 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 11:44 AM)jaybird44 Wrote:  OK, I cannot tell you how i know this,but i believe OLD DOMINION is looking to find a way to leave. I think conference usa will be dramatically different next year. ODU cannot afford to be in CUSA much longer. It does not make sense.

I hope you're right, as long as its someplace BETTER. As bad as CUSA is, there are worse options. If it gets us in a multi-bid basketball league somehow, I'll be happy. Your "next year" comment makes me think you anticipate something quickly.

I can't think of any worse options personally. Worst case is basketball lands in another 1-bid league, but everyone will be closer and attending the conference tournament will be possible.

Big South? ASun?

(01-15-2021 12:36 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:26 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:21 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 11:44 AM)jaybird44 Wrote:  OK, I cannot tell you how i know this,but i believe OLD DOMINION is looking to find a way to leave. I think conference usa will be dramatically different next year. ODU cannot afford to be in CUSA much longer. It does not make sense.

I hope you're right, as long as its someplace BETTER. As bad as CUSA is, there are worse options. If it gets us in a multi-bid basketball league somehow, I'll be happy. Your "next year" comment makes me think you anticipate something quickly.

I can't think of any worse options personally. Worst case is basketball lands in another 1-bid league, but everyone will be closer and attending the conference tournament will be possible.

Big South? ASun?

I'd rather be in the Big South. ASun wouldn't shrink the footprint much so I don't think we'd move there... though I would like to be in a conference with Liberty. Just personal preference I guess. Also assuming that in any move football stays FBS.

I wonder if there is a way to go the old CAA route, and make CUSA a football refuge for a bunch of teams that are in a conference that is a more reasonable fit for their remaining sports, then maybe repurpose one of those conferences that is about to fold out west to turn it into a new regional basketball conference. That, of course, assumes that we wouldn't be able to get into A-10 after dealing with the football problem.

If we could find a home for FBS football and then build a basketball conference with Charlotte, ODU, JMU, Marshall, WKU, MTSU, W&M, CofC and maybe a couple others, that would be an ideal situation for me.

Edit: That would be an ideal situation assuming that A-10 and AAC are not options.

(01-15-2021 11:44 AM)jaybird44 Wrote:  OK, I cannot tell you how i know this,but i believe OLD DOMINION is looking to find a way to leave. I think conference usa will be dramatically different next year. ODU cannot afford to be in CUSA much longer. It does not make sense.

I'm sorry, but you can't say that you "know" something and follow it with something you "believe" will happen. You either know it or you don't. Otherwise you are just stating that you "know" you have an opinion. Just like the rest of us.

Id be OK with staying in CUSA for "football only", like Navy is with the AAC. I just want our basketball someplace better, and our other sports in a situation where it doesnt cost a fortune to send them to games. I have no desire at all to be in the ASun or Big South for hoops. AAC, A10, CUSA and maybe the CAA are the only conferences outside the P5 that I would consider.

(01-15-2021 01:10 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  I wonder if there is a way to go the old CAA route, and make CUSA a football refuge for a bunch of teams that are in a conference that is a more reasonable fit for their remaining sports, then maybe repurpose one of those conferences that is about to fold out west to turn it into a new regional basketball conference. That, of course, assumes that we wouldn't be able to get into A-10 after dealing with the football problem.

If we could find a home for FBS football and then build a basketball conference with Charlotte, ODU, JMU, Marshall, WKU, MTSU, W&M, CofC and maybe a couple others, that would be an ideal situation for me.

Edit: That would be an ideal situation assuming that A-10 and AAC are not options.

I guess an easier way to achieve my goal would be to just add ODU, Marshall, WKU, and MTSU to the CAA for non football sports. I could live with the resulting CAA at that point, and think it could grow in strength the way the old CAA did. It could be proposed to CUSA as the only option to save the conference.

Edit: Shoot, I forgot Charlotte and that would make too many teams, so bye MTSU.

(01-15-2021 03:01 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 01:10 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  I wonder if there is a way to go the old CAA route, and make CUSA a football refuge for a bunch of teams that are in a conference that is a more reasonable fit for their remaining sports, then maybe repurpose one of those conferences that is about to fold out west to turn it into a new regional basketball conference. That, of course, assumes that we wouldn't be able to get into A-10 after dealing with the football problem.

If we could find a home for FBS football and then build a basketball conference with Charlotte, ODU, JMU, Marshall, WKU, MTSU, W&M, CofC and maybe a couple others, that would be an ideal situation for me.

Edit: That would be an ideal situation assuming that A-10 and AAC are not options.

I guess an easier way to achieve my goal would be to just add ODU, Marshall, WKU, and MTSU to the CAA for non football sports. I could live with the resulting CAA at that point, and think it could grow in strength the way the old CAA did. It could be proposed to CUSA as the only option to save the conference.

Edit: Shoot, I forgot Charlotte and that would make too many teams, so bye MTSU.

And WKU probably ain’t coming without MTSU.

(01-15-2021 07:25 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 03:01 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 01:10 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  I wonder if there is a way to go the old CAA route, and make CUSA a football refuge for a bunch of teams that are in a conference that is a more reasonable fit for their remaining sports, then maybe repurpose one of those conferences that is about to fold out west to turn it into a new regional basketball conference. That, of course, assumes that we wouldn't be able to get into A-10 after dealing with the football problem.

If we could find a home for FBS football and then build a basketball conference with Charlotte, ODU, JMU, Marshall, WKU, MTSU, W&M, CofC and maybe a couple others, that would be an ideal situation for me.

Edit: That would be an ideal situation assuming that A-10 and AAC are not options.

I guess an easier way to achieve my goal would be to just add ODU, Marshall, WKU, and MTSU to the CAA for non football sports. I could live with the resulting CAA at that point, and think it could grow in strength the way the old CAA did. It could be proposed to CUSA as the only option to save the conference.

Edit: Shoot, I forgot Charlotte and that would make too many teams, so bye MTSU.

And WKU probably ain’t coming without MTSU.

Welp. Guess I just have to boot one of the northeast CAA schools while I am dreaming up fictitious leagues that have basically zero chance of happening lol.

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Each day we are stuck in this awful conference is another day my passion for ODU sports dwindles. Get us the hell out!

Do not worry my friends. It is coming. It makes no sense to stay.

(01-16-2021 11:48 PM)jaybird44 Wrote:  Do not worry my friends. It is coming. It makes no sense to stay.

What’s coming? A real conference or some less spread out version of the same crap that is just replacing flights to Texas with 10-15 hour bus rides to nowhere any of us are going, more bad basketball, and still no rivalries?


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Can confirm that I, too, have heard ODU is looking for a change.

You all won't like any of it. Well, the vast majority of it.

Joining W&M in the Patriot League?
Joining NSU in the new MEAC?
Joining any league with Liberty?
Hello ODAC?

Insiders, drop a few crumbs. Your buddies probably don't even read the drivel on this board.

Wonder how many have PMed Grom and J bird looking for "inside" info

(01-17-2021 12:20 PM)Grommet Wrote:  Can confirm that I, too, have heard ODU is looking for a change.

You all won't like any of it. Well, the vast majority of it.

I am intrigued.

ANYTHING conference related will get noticed and debated ad nauseum in "have budget (as long as we can % student fees), have badass facilities, won't travel" land to your northwest.

Anytime I read ASUN, I look up the teams in ASUN and say, WTF?

We both should have joined the A10 back when Mason making the Final 4 was laughable and Mason had not claimed a spot is 2 seconds.

Somethings has to give with G5 football, status quo is program suicide for many of the G5s...I guess the JMU admin got that right a few years back.

(01-17-2021 03:21 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(01-17-2021 12:20 PM)Grommet Wrote:  Can confirm that I, too, have heard ODU is looking for a change.

You all won't like any of it. Well, the vast majority of it.

I am intrigued.

ANYTHING conference related will get noticed and debated ad nauseum in "have budget (as long as we can % student fees), have badass facilities, won't travel" land to your northwest.

Anytime I read ASUN, I look up the teams in ASUN and say, WTF?

We both should have joined the A10 back when Mason making the Final 4 was laughable and Mason had not claimed a spot is 2 seconds.

Somethings has to give with G5 football, status quo is program suicide for many of the G5s...I guess the JMU admin got that right a few years back.

Totally agree that ODU and JMU should have joined the A10 in the 90s when we could. Hind sight is 20/20 for sure. Status quo is suicide for CUSA and Sun Belt at least. MW & AAC make enough money to survive, and MAC is compact enough to make sense.

(01-17-2021 12:20 PM)Grommet Wrote:  Can confirm that I, too, have heard ODU is looking for a change.

You all won't like any of it. Well, the vast majority of it.

Man I bet it's the SEC and we will still have a lot of traveling. :)

I hope the the Belt and CUSA fan bases (and JMU) start a revolution if commissioners, ADs, and presidents keep asking for money with no reorganization.

admins, "please give us money"
fans and alum, "no conference reorg, f#ck you"