(01-08-2021 10:43 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote: (01-07-2021 09:25 PM)Wedge Wrote: (01-07-2021 09:05 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote: BYU won’t join a G5 conference for one reason only: the University of Utah.
BYU won’t have on the schedule the likes of Temple, Tulsa, East Carolina, SMU, the Florida twins, etc while Utah plays a Pac-12 schedule. Their ego won’t allow it. The best thing they can do is play a semi national schedule with P5, MWC schools and some independents. Their schedule in 2020 (before the COVID-19 cancellations) looked great.
And please save the “but the Pac-12 sucks”. That’s not the point. The point is the Pac-12 is part of the cartel. BYU and whatever G5 conference posters on this board want BYU to be part of is outside looking in. They won’t admit Utah has already passed them by so independence is the only option until a P5 comes calling.
I think we can illustrate the BYU vs. Utah situation by making a state of Utah analogy to the state of Indiana.
BYU as a football independent can think of themselves as the Notre Dame of the west while the Utes, in this analogy, are the Indiana Hoosiers. That's an analogy that satisfies BYU.
If BYU was in a G5 conference, in their eyes, it would be more like they're Ball State while the Utes are the Hoosiers. That's the kind of comparison they are avoiding by being a football indy.
I think this hits it pretty close. The question I have is does BYU truly believe that their 12-0 in any given year is as good as or better than Notre Dame’s? That a committee would sniff an undefeated BYU any year?
Because, I suspect the committee sees them no differently, and maybe less than an undefeated AAC or MWC school. Does BYU have any self awareness?
They wouldn't treat the schedule 2020 BYU ended up playing with any favorable view but the schedule they were set to play before COVID probably gets that call.
Utah, Mich St, AZ State, Minnesota, Missouri, and Stanford from the P5. Houston, Boise, NIU, SDSU, and USU from the G5 and one FCS team. Depending on who they'd be up against that SOS would have had a shot if they ran the table.
In 2021 they play Arizona, Utah, ASU, Baylor, Wazzu, UVA, and USC. That's one game shy of a P5 league slate in the ACC or SEC. From there they also play Boise who's usually on that level, USU, USF, Ga Southern, and one FCS team. Depending on if any of the other G5's are good in a given year and who they are up against that schedule would likely get a P5 treatment.
2022?
P5 teams Baylor, Oregon, Arkansas, Stanford already scheduled with two openings still on the schedule. They also have Boise, Liberty, Wyoming, USU, and an FCS team.
By playing 4-7 P5's and Boise plus several notable G5's their SOS will likely be close enough to challenge for a spot if they run the table.
Their SOS will be wildly different than many AAC teams most years so I do think the playoff committee will view them differently. Their 2019 schedule had only 4 P5 schools and the anchor of Toledo's and Umass's awful ranking yet ranked 65th on Sagarin. A little better luck on which G5's are on the schedule and another P5 or three as we see scheduled up already and that could be much better. For reference their 2020 schedule ended up being worse than 100th when they played only G5/FCS.