John Kearns has an interesting breakdown of the lineups WM used this past weekend.

https://mobile.twitter.com/databyKearns/...1986259973

(01-05-2021 09:48 AM)ScottyB757 Wrote:  

(01-04-2021 02:22 PM)FauqDawg10 Wrote:  Did we ever get word on Thornton? I don't recall seeing him on the bench and would be surprised if he missed a trip a stone's throw away from his family (is he allowed to see them under the protocol?).

I know we all want our info NOW, but there are a lot of factors that could be in play here regarding Scott’s absence. Given the radio silence thus far, I’m betting it’s complicated.

Yes, and it's also worth noting that we're not entitled to this information. We may never know.

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(01-05-2021 10:35 AM)WillaMary08 Wrote:  John Kearns has an interesting breakdown of the lineups WM used this past weekend.

https://mobile.twitter.com/databyKearns/...1986259973

Interesting. I would have never randomly picked Wight, Kochera, Loewe, Ayesa and Stone as one of our better groups of five.

(01-05-2021 11:20 AM)billymac Wrote:  

(01-05-2021 10:35 AM)WillaMary08 Wrote:  John Kearns has an interesting breakdown of the lineups WM used this past weekend.

https://mobile.twitter.com/databyKearns/...1986259973

Interesting. I would have never randomly picked Wight, Kochera, Loewe, Ayesa and Stone as one of our better groups of five.

Keep in mind sample sizes though, with most of these being under 15 possessions it's a little tough to judge, but this is an interesting breakdown I haven't seen before, and I'll be curious how it progresses as the season moves on.

(01-05-2021 12:42 PM)TDenverFan Wrote:  

(01-05-2021 11:20 AM)billymac Wrote:  

(01-05-2021 10:35 AM)WillaMary08 Wrote:  John Kearns has an interesting breakdown of the lineups WM used this past weekend.

https://mobile.twitter.com/databyKearns/...1986259973

Interesting. I would have never randomly picked Wight, Kochera, Loewe, Ayesa and Stone as one of our better groups of five.

Keep in mind sample sizes though, with most of these being under 15 possessions it's a little tough to judge, but this is an interesting breakdown I haven't seen before, and I'll be curious how it progresses as the season moves on.

Kearns previously posted a lineup breakdown for the first five games (so not including this weekend) if you want a bigger sample size.

https://mobile.twitter.com/databyKearns/...4745036800

(01-05-2021 10:53 AM)Tribal Wrote:  

(01-05-2021 09:48 AM)ScottyB757 Wrote:  

(01-04-2021 02:22 PM)FauqDawg10 Wrote:  Did we ever get word on Thornton? I don't recall seeing him on the bench and would be surprised if he missed a trip a stone's throw away from his family (is he allowed to see them under the protocol?).

I know we all want our info NOW, but there are a lot of factors that could be in play here regarding Scott’s absence. Given the radio silence thus far, I’m betting it’s complicated.

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This seems odd. It appears to be a conspiracy to avoid providing the information under the concept of "don't ask and don't tell". As a starter for most of the games and his home near Hofstra, it seems obvious that somebody would ask. While the facts are not our business, his status seems a fair expectation.

(01-05-2021 04:59 PM)wmmii Wrote:  

(01-05-2021 10:53 AM)Tribal Wrote:  

(01-05-2021 09:48 AM)ScottyB757 Wrote:  

(01-04-2021 02:22 PM)FauqDawg10 Wrote:  Did we ever get word on Thornton? I don't recall seeing him on the bench and would be surprised if he missed a trip a stone's throw away from his family (is he allowed to see them under the protocol?).

I know we all want our info NOW, but there are a lot of factors that could be in play here regarding Scott’s absence. Given the radio silence thus far, I’m betting it’s complicated.

Yes, and it's also worth noting that we're not entitled to this information. We may never know.

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This seems odd. It appears to be a conspiracy to avoid providing the information under the concept of "don't ask and don't tell". As a starter for most of the games and his home near Hofstra, it seems obvious that somebody would ask. While the facts are not our business, his status seems a fair expectation.

NOT SUGGESTING A REASON FOR RADIO SILENCE

This seems somewhat similar to the radio silence that surrounded the Seacat situation. I'm not suggesting the same type of issue, as I have absolutely no information. I'm simply pointing out that we have seen this type of radio silence from another staff at another time. My guess that it the statement that it is a complicated situation would seem consistent.

If it's an academic or otherwise personal issue, our program can't share it. Could also be that whatever the process, it hasn't been worked through, so there's nothing to report.



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If memory serves Seacat and Britt were both arrested/had suspensions announced prior to the season starting. I don't recall anyone's absence ever being actually hidden (which, to be clear, I don't think happened here--as far as I know no one even asked the staff).

Just wondering if one of you in-the-know types had heard anything about a routine injury. As far as silence in the case of something else (in trouble, sick, something worse) goes, other than general well wishes for a young man, I have no interest in asking any specific questions about a 21-year-old other than when he expects to play basketball again.

Seacat and Britt showed up via other means (Police Blotter in local/regional news). Same with our kicker/punter and the breaking and entering charges. Stuff internal like Honor Council or things inside the team and their rules aren't public and won't show up until someone leaks it (if ever). I suggest that if he's not on the injury report and he's still on the roster, there is something else going on and we will find out about it at some point, but maybe not at the level of detail people want.

In the latest Tribe Scribe article on the Tribe Athletics website, Dave Johnson notes that "six Freshmen and Sophomores are among the top nine players in the rotation". Considering that the other three players would have to be Luke, Quinn, and Mickel, you certainly have to wonder about Thornton's status.

Haven't checked today, but as of yesterday Scott remains on the roster.

(01-07-2021 07:05 AM)bubbadog57 Wrote:  Haven't checked today, but as of yesterday Scott remains on the roster.

Today also. In checking, I happened to notice that he was on the CAA Commissioner's Academic Honor Roll the past two seasons, which makes an academic issue seem perhaps less likely versus something else. Still not impossible, though, I guess -- we all can have our ups and downs.

This could be something as trivial as a Covid protocol violation. It'll play out.

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(01-07-2021 01:34 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This could be something as trivial as a Covid protocol violation. It'll play out.

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That is what I was thinking. While the coach can comment that a player is out for a non Covid related illness, I do not think that the opposite is true.

(01-07-2021 03:01 PM)WMTRIBE75 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 01:34 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This could be something as trivial as a Covid protocol violation. It'll play out.

That is what I was thinking. While the coach can comment that a player is out for a non Covid related illness, I do not think that the opposite is true.

Breaking Covid protocols is not "trivial". He risks catching it and then spreading it to the entire team. Missing any more games would thoroughly disrupt the remainder of the season (even more so than it has already been disrupted).

(01-07-2021 11:47 PM)Zorch Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 03:01 PM)WMTRIBE75 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 01:34 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This could be something as trivial as a Covid protocol violation. It'll play out.

That is what I was thinking. While the coach can comment that a player is out for a non Covid related illness, I do not think that the opposite is true.

Breaking Covid protocols is not "trivial". He risks catching it and then spreading it to the entire team. Missing any more games would thoroughly disrupt the remainder of the season (even more so than it has already been disrupted).

It's not trivial in an absolute sense, but given the other theories about his absence, that could easily be considered trivial in comparison.

(01-08-2021 09:41 AM)WMInTheBurg Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 11:47 PM)Zorch Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 03:01 PM)WMTRIBE75 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 01:34 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This could be something as trivial as a Covid protocol violation. It'll play out.

That is what I was thinking. While the coach can comment that a player is out for a non Covid related illness, I do not think that the opposite is true.

Breaking Covid protocols is not "trivial". He risks catching it and then spreading it to the entire team. Missing any more games would thoroughly disrupt the remainder of the season (even more so than it has already been disrupted).

It's not trivial in an absolute sense, but given the other theories about his absence, that could easily be considered trivial in comparison.

Zorch understood my point.

We can butterfly effect everything.

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Hofstra lost to Northeastern last night in OT, blowing a 17 point halftime lead. I still think they are likely the best team, but given all the uncertainties with travel, scheduling and who is available in a given week, we could see a lot of individual game surprises this season.

That is, if games continue to be played. JMU has yet to play a conference game. They had their first weekend games cancelled due to a Towson COVID issue. Then, they were scheduled to face UNCW(who also suspended games due to COVID). Elon then stepped into the void to play them this weekend, but that too has been postponed today due to a COVID issue for Elon.

It might be less significant compared to a lot of things going on in the world, but I do give credit to the athletes, coaches, and schools and their families in trying to stay virus free. Clearly we are in a significant high case period right now which may prove to be too much. Certainly the college will face challenges for the spring semester, but have taken another good step in getting pre-testing done prior to the campus return.

(01-08-2021 09:49 AM)Tribal Wrote:  

(01-08-2021 09:41 AM)WMInTheBurg Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 11:47 PM)Zorch Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 03:01 PM)WMTRIBE75 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 01:34 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This could be something as trivial as a Covid protocol violation. It'll play out.

That is what I was thinking. While the coach can comment that a player is out for a non Covid related illness, I do not think that the opposite is true.

Breaking Covid protocols is not "trivial". He risks catching it and then spreading it to the entire team. Missing any more games would thoroughly disrupt the remainder of the season (even more so than it has already been disrupted).

It's not trivial in an absolute sense, but given the other theories about his absence, that could easily be considered trivial in comparison.

Zorch understood my point.

We can butterfly effect everything.

Understand my point. Words matter. If you didn't mean "trivial" then don't say "trivial". Covid effects are not trivial.