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RE: AAC can never agree to G5 playoff. That's what the P5 is trying to force.
(12-24-2020 02:47 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
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(12-23-2020 11:32 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  The problem for the AAC is there only one conference out of 10 that want more than just the money. SBC, CUSA, MAC and MWC will likely agree to whatever is thrown their way in money. As much as they say, conference champ, the P5 will want to stay with the top 8. I am just being realistic, not what is fair. AAC needs to get a major bowl tie-in on NY6 and that would cost around 70-80 million split between the AAC and whatever conference gets tied in. Likely ACC/B12/ND like the Orange bowl. P5 always have the breakaway card, the question is someone willing to call it. Again, not saying this is right, just how difficult a spot they are in. Do I think the AAC deserves better treatment, YES. Do I think it will happen with the next CFP, no.

Well---first off--I suspect the money split will be largely unchanged. Frankly, the P5 getting substantially more than the G5 reasonably reflects the economic realities of the situation. I suspect the G5 knows this and that is why their primary push will be for a realistic and well defined legitimate path into the playoff. As far as them not getting that guaranteed access---dont be so sure.

The Big 10 champ sat at home one year when the team that didnt win the Big10 was sent to the playoff by the Committee. The P5 teams that arent Alabama or Clemson or Texas or Ohio St are realizing that brand matters. They realize the Committee thinks about them the way they think about the G5. So--its very likely a majority of each P5 conference will like the idea of the P5 champs being guranteed a slot in the plauoff so the "non-brands" of the P5 KNOW they wont get screwed in that "special" year when they win the conference.

Finally, I think the P5 will give the G5 a guaranteed slot for two more reasons---to tamp down rising public backlash against the exclusion (Americans have a strong sense of fair play and the CFP is failing miserably at "fair play" in the court of public opinion). Furthermore, interest is fading in the playoff (the ESPN selection show ratings have dropped every year and now are around half of what they started at). You cant exclude 50% of the fan bases before the first snap of the season and expect them to continue to be invested in faithfully watching your playoff and its surrounding events. There are only so many Alabama and Clemson fans. There is a smart economic component to re-engaging with the G5. The G5 is a relatively lightly mined portion of the college viewing audience. Those G5 programs are not yet fully developed and have far more growth potential (in terms of cumulative fan numbers) at this point compared to the more developed and mature programs you'll find in the P5. Thus, most of the potential future growth for expanding the college football TV audience lies in the G5.

Honestly---I think the economics of expanding the CFP and giving real access to the top G5 team just makes too much sense to ignore. I think the 5-1-2 plan will end up sailing though. The bigger battles will be about whether to host that first round of games on campus (which I think is smart) or using the bowl system.

Not just access to the competition, access to the cash. The NY6 bowl pay outs are outrageously out of balance, it needs to be doled out at least in some way similar to the NCAA credits. Otherwise the economic imbalance is such that retention even with access is tenuous. The p5 retaining autobids and at larges mean they will still take the lions share as they do NCAA, but as we have seen well ran smaller leagues have produced nationally competitive teams based on those credits and efficiency as well as interior program support.

That’s not happening. The P5 via tv ratings are simply more valuable. That’s just the economic reality of the situation—so I’m not to upset by the uneven money split. As long as the AAC has some sort of legit access to the playoff I’m ok.
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RE: AAC can never agree to G5 playoff. That's what the P5 is trying to force.
(12-25-2020 10:37 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  As long as the AAC has some sort of legit access to the playoff I’m ok.

It would seem ok for as long as 80% of the top 10 teams continue to be P5 teams.

However, for much of this season ~ 1/3 of the nation's top 30 teams are non-P5 teams (at present, 11 of the top 30 are non-P5 teams).

With the progress that the non-P5 teams have been making, it is becoming possible that as many as 50% of the top 30 will be non-P5 teams within the next 5-10 years, and that the day may come when there are 4 non-P5 teams in the top 8.

If that does happen, at some point, the CFP might have to be restructured to eliminate the remaining bias against the non-P5 teams.

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Question: If a day comes when there is clear evidence that 3 non-P5 teams should be ranked in the top 8, would you expect the CFP committee to permit those 3 to participate in the playoff series?
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RE: AAC can never agree to G5 playoff. That's what the P5 is trying to force.
(12-26-2020 12:37 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  
(12-25-2020 10:37 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  As long as the AAC has some sort of legit access to the playoff I’m ok.

It would seem ok for as long as 80% of the top 10 teams continue to be P5 teams.

However, for much of this season ~ 1/3 of the nation's top 30 teams are non-P5 teams (at present, 11 of the top 30 are non-P5 teams).

With the progress that the non-P5 teams have been making, it is becoming possible that as many as 50% of the top 30 will be non-P5 teams within the next 5-10 years, and that the day may come when there are 4 non-P5 teams in the top 8.

If that does happen, at some point, the CFP might have to be restructured to eliminate the remaining bias against the non-P5 teams.

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Question: If a day comes when there is clear evidence that 3 non-P5 teams should be ranked in the top 8, would you expect the CFP committee to permit those 3 to participate in the playoff series?

Down the line that will certainly happen--but keep in mind---the wild cards are there so a structual change is not necessarily required for more G5's to start making the playoffs.

There is an old saying that says something to the effect that "if you let the camel put his nose under the edge of the tent, eventually the entire camel will follow".

Thats the way I see the G5 playoff access. Right now, the G5 access would be very limited---1 out of 8 slots is pretty minimal considering almost half of FBS is made up of G5 teams. But to me, thats the camels nose. That access will change recruiting. Top players that want a real crack at the playoff will never ever select a G5 in the current world where the G5 has NO access at all.

But with a true legit guaranteed path to the playoff---G5 teams that used to just win a slot in the access bowl (like UCF, Boise, Houston, Memphis, etc) will now be participating in the actual playoff. I believe that will result in a massive shift in the recruiting grounds. Here is why. Whats the more likely path to the CFP for a top tier athlete who isnt selected by Bama, Clemson, Ohio St, Penn St, Michigan, Texas, Georgia, USC, or Oklhoma? Do you have a better shot of making the playoff from Mississippi St---where Bama, LSU, and Georgia are standing in your way? Or do you stand a better chance of making the playoff from someplace like UCF, Boise, or Houston? I think common sense says you'd have a more likely shot at getting to the playoffs at Houston than you probably would at Texas Tech--where Texas and Oklahoma are standing in the way every year.

My belief is just getting actual real life legit access to the playoff will be a seminal event in college football and will have wide ranging positive effects for the G5. The two biggest effects? It will improve recruiting by the top G5 schools---and it will improve the casual fan interest in the outcome of G5 conference races. That means better ratings--and more money for those G5 media rights. As the recruiting, performance, interest, quality, and ratings of the G5 improves---the CFP access to the G5 will improve as well....but that comes later.

First, we just need to get the camels nose under the edge of the tent.
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RE: AAC can never agree to G5 playoff. That's what the P5 is trying to force.
(12-24-2020 02:30 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(12-23-2020 11:32 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  The problem for the AAC is there only one conference out of 10 that want more than just the money. SBC, CUSA, MAC and MWC will likely agree to whatever is thrown their way in money. As much as they say, conference champ, the P5 will want to stay with the top 8. I am just being realistic, not what is fair. AAC needs to get a major bowl tie-in on NY6 and that would cost around 70-80 million split between the AAC and whatever conference gets tied in. Likely ACC/B12/ND like the Orange bowl. P5 always have the breakaway card, the question is someone willing to call it. Again, not saying this is right, just how difficult a spot they are in. Do I think the AAC deserves better treatment, YES. Do I think it will happen with the next CFP, no.

Well---first off--I suspect the money split will be largely unchanged. Frankly, the P5 getting substantially more than the G5 reasonably reflects the economic realities of the situation. I suspect the G5 knows this and that is why their primary push will be for a realistic and well defined legitimate path into the playoff. As far as them not getting that guaranteed access---dont be so sure.

The Big 10 champ sat at home one year when the team that didnt win the Big10 was sent to the playoff by the Committee. The P5 teams that arent Alabama or Clemson or Texas or Ohio St are realizing that brand matters. They realize the Committee thinks about them the way they think about the G5. So--its very likely a majority of each P5 conference will like the idea of the P5 champs being guranteed a slot in the plauoff so the "non-brands" of the P5 KNOW they wont get screwed in that "special" year when they win the conference.

Finally, I think the P5 will give the G5 a guaranteed slot for two more reasons---to tamp down rising public backlash against the exclusion (Americans have a strong sense of fair play and the CFP is failing miserably at "fair play" in the court of public opinion). Furthermore, interest is fading in the playoff (the ESPN selection show ratings have dropped every year and now are around half of what they started at). You cant exclude 50% of the fan bases before the first snap of the season and expect them to continue to be invested in faithfully watching your playoff and its surrounding events. There are only so many Alabama and Clemson fans. There is a smart economic component to re-engaging with the G5. The G5 is a relatively lightly mined portion of the college viewing audience. Those G5 programs are not yet fully developed and have far more growth potential (in terms of cumulative fan numbers) at this point compared to the more developed and mature programs you'll find in the P5. Thus, most of the potential future growth for expanding the college football TV audience lies in the G5.

Honestly---I think the economics of expanding the CFP and giving real access to the top G5 team just makes too much sense to ignore. I think the 5-1-2 plan will end up sailing though. The bigger battles will be about whether to host that first round of games on campus (which I think is smart) or using the bowl system.

To add, I think the G5 spot will always be viewed as the 'Cinderella', and if there is anything that makes the March Madness popular, it is the Cinderella conversation that permeates the tournament. Right now the CFP is a boring repeat of previous years selections.

I do think there will be great pushback against the G5 autobid proposal by the Privileged 5.
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RE: AAC can never agree to G5 playoff. That's what the P5 is trying to force.
(12-26-2020 01:19 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  ...the wild cards are there so a structual change is not necessarily required for more G5's to start making the playoffs.

There is an old saying that says something to the effect that "if you let the camel put his nose under the edge of the tent, eventually the entire camel will follow".

Thats the way I see the G5 playoff access. Right now, the G5 access would be very limited---1 out of 8 slots is pretty minimal considering almost half of FBS is made up of G5 teams. But to me, thats the camels nose. That access will change recruiting. Top players that want a real crack at the playoff will never ever select a G5 in the current world where the G5 has NO access at all.

But with a true legit guaranteed path to the playoff---G5 teams that used to just win a slot in the access bowl (like UCF, Boise, Houston, Memphis, etc) will now be participating in the actual playoff. I believe that will result in a massive shift in the recruiting grounds.

Here is why. Whats the more likely path to the CFP for a top tier athlete who isnt selected by Bama, Clemson, Ohio St, Penn St, Michigan, Texas, Georgia, USC, or Oklhoma? Do you have a better shot of making the playoff from Mississippi St---where Bama, LSU, and Georgia are standing in your way? Or do you stand a better chance of making the playoff from someplace like UCF, Boise, or Houston? I think common sense says you'd have a more likely shot at getting to the playoffs at Houston than you probably would at Texas Tech--where Texas and Oklahoma are standing in the way every year.

My belief is just getting actual real life legit access to the playoff will be seminal event in college football and will have wide ranging positive effects for the G5. The two biggest effects?

(1) It will improve recruiting by the top G5 schools---and it will improve the casual fan interest in the outcome of G5 conference races. That means better ratings--and more money for those G5 media rights.

(2) As the recruiting, performance, interest, quality, and ratings of the G5 improves---the CFP access to the G5 will improve as well....but that comes later.

That is a very optimistic scenario, and if the non-P5 programs keep improving the way they have, it might become possible for things to unfold that way in the years ahead.

From the standpoint of the AAC, however, the benefit of a 5-1-2 CFP could have much more tangible benefits in a much shorter time frame:

Schools such as BYU and Army that would otherwise be disinclined to do so would have a much more compelling reason to affiliate with the AAC as FB members if the CFP were to adopt the 5-1-2 proposal, because the pathway into the CFP playoffs as the AAC champion would be so much more feasible than going undefeated and hoping for an at-large bid.

Consider 2020, for example. Notre Dame and Texas A&M would be the likely at-large teams, and Cincinnati would be the non-P5 team. Even if BYU had gone 11-0 in 2020, they would not have been ranked ahead of Notre Dame or TAMU. However, they could have qualified for the CFP by defeating Cincinnati in the AAC championship game.

Given that reality, BYU and 1 or 2 other high-quality non-P5 teams (e.g., Army, Air Force, SDSU...and Boise, if they haven't already joined by that point) might apply for membership in the AAC.

If Boise State and a quality BB school like VCU become the 12th FB and BB schools, replacing Connecticut, as now appears possible, and if BYU were to seek membership to become more CFP-eligible, the AAC might be able to kick-start a process that could eventuate in P6/A6 status by 2032 under the auspices of an expanded broadcasting agreement with ESPN.

Things might unfold like this:

1. During the annual NCAA Congress in January 2021 , there is an agreement to expand to a 5-1-2 playoff system by 2022.

2. Boise State settles on a new conference for their BB/olympic teams and joins the AAC. In the Spring, VCU accepts an invitation to join the AAC as a BB/olympics member. Both moves are approved by ESPN, with some adjustments to the existing AAC broadcasting agreement. VCU receives the amount currently paid to Wichita State. Boise State's compensation package may or may not be enhanced.

--The AAC grants approval to provide Boise St. with an special travel allowance, offsetting the

3. BYU expresses interest in a FB-only or all-sports membership in the AAC. The AAC approves of the idea, in principle, and both parties soon initiate discussions with ESPN.

4. Due to the addition of Boise State and - possibly - BYU, the AAC begins to take on the appearance of a potential power conference.

--In response, San Diego State, Air Force, and other potential suitors to contact the AAC Commissioner with membership applications.

--This news has the effect of expanding the discussion with ESPN about BYU's application into a broader discussion about the possibility of expanding to 14 teams.

5. ESPN approves the idea of expanding the broadcasting agreement to cover BYU, in principle, and agrees to discuss the possibility of an expanded 14-team conference broadcasting package.

6. ESPN, BYU, and the AAC have initial discussions to sketch out the outlines of a revised and expanded AAC broadcasting deal.

--They come to a three-way consensus that BYU would become a FB (or all-sports) member, and agree to proceed on the basis that San Diego State (FB) would become the conference as its 14th member.

--They also agree to expand to 14 BB and olympic member schools through the addition of Dayton (and St. Louis, if BYU joins for FB only).

--The selections of BYU, SDSU, and the basketball school(s) are strongly influenced by market research conducted by ESPN, indicating sufficient probability to warrant expansion.

7. ESPN proposes an initial broadcasting agreement:

--The remainder of the 12-year broadcasting agreement would continue for the existing AAC members, with enhancements.
--All new members would "piggyback" onto the existing agreement for the remainder of the 12-year period, with BB members receiving the amount paid to Wichita State.
--San Diego State would be paid the amount currently paid to Navy.
--BYU's compensation would depend on whether they're a FB or all-sports member, and BYU might have to be granted special terms, pertaining to the BYU sports network.

8. The AAC and new members review the proposal and note market research estimates suggesting a probable 20%-30% spike in viewership. --They make a counter-offer, which would include an automatic 10% increase in payments per-school if conference viewership increases by 20%.
--Their counter-offer also includes a provision stipulating that ESPN would take all the same steps that they took to obtain official "autonomy" status from the NCAA for the P5 conferences within the first three years of the new agreement. The network would then proceed to obtain the consent of the P5 conferences for the other privileges of "power" conference status to be extended to the AAC.

9. ESPN agrees to take the steps needed to obtain "autonomy" status from the NCAA and to obtain consent from the P5 for the privileges of "power conference" status by a later date - - the end of the broadcasting agreement, and agrees to a 5% increase in $$ per school if average conference viewership increases by 25% and remains elevated for two years in a row.

--ESPN stipulates, however, that in order to obtain official "autonomy" and "power conference" status from the NCAA and P5 conferences, they will need to obtain a Grant of Rights (GOR) agreement from all ACC full and affiliate members.

10. The parties agree, and by Fall, 2023, the conference consists of the following teams:

West (FB): NOTE: The programs that currently appear to have the most top 30 potential are highlighted.

Houston
SMU
Tulsa
BYU
MOUNTAIN TIME ZONE
Boise MOUNTAIN TIME ZONE
SDSU PACIFIC TIME ZONE
Tulane or Navy

East (FB):

Cincy
UCF

USF
Temple
ECU
Memphis
Tulane or Navy

West (BB): NOTE: Programs with particular NCAA/NIT potential as of 2020-21 are highlighted.

Houston
SMU
Tulsa
BYU (all-sports) MOUNTAIN TIME ZONE
Wichita St.
Tulane
Memphis

East (BB):

Cincy
VCU
Dayton or St. Louis

UCF
USF
Temple
ECU



If things were to unfold in this manner, after a 5-1-2 CFP model goes into effect, the American might be able to become a full P6/A6 conference by 2032

With 10 potential top 30 FB programs and at least 10 programs with NCAA or NIT potential, recruiting and viewership would begin to show rapid improvement. Revenue will increase in the next broadcasting agreement so that more high-quality coaches could be retained. As a result, the conference could contend more and more competitively for national FB and BB championships

If a scenario such as this should unfold, a 5-1-2 CFP would have more than served its purpose from the AAC's perspective. The other G5 conferences would also benefit from having the ability to contend for a spot in the CFP series.

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(12-20-2020 03:08 PM)B easy Wrote:  It's sickening and it's un-American. This thing needs to be broken up. Further, the AAC is not like the rest of the G4.

I don't think the AAC should be good with a G5 playoff. But the other four conferences should be good with a G-4 playoff. That keep grinding mentality is great and all but when all you is doing is spinning in the mud at what point do you call for help?

The G-4 needs help. The Playoff Committee showed their obvious lack of respect for the G-5 this season and there is nothing Aresco or any other G-5 leader can do but suck it up.

I'm all for the G-4 having their own playoff and playing for something. These bowl games are a joke unless you play in a NY6 bowl game. And the only relevant bowl games are the semi-finals. The separation between the haves and the have nots has gotten even wider. Time for the G4 to get off the P-5 tit and start to growing up and finding some other means to becoming a little bit relevant.
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(12-28-2020 04:42 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(12-20-2020 03:08 PM)B easy Wrote:  It's sickening and it's un-American. This thing needs to be broken up. Further, the AAC is not like the rest of the G4.

I don't think the AAC should be good with a G5 playoff. But the other four conferences should be good with a G-4 playoff.

Just as there is a near-zero likelihood of a separate "G5 playoff," within the foreseeable future, there's not going to be any "G4 playoff" in the as long as the AAC remains a G5 conference - - you can be sure of that.

For one thing, [i]there is no entity known as the "G4."[/i] There is only the "G5," and that will continue until the AAC moves up to P6/A6 status, if it ever does.

Clearly, the only people in this world who refer to the C-USA, MAC, MWC, and SBC as "the G4" are a subset of AAC fans who prefer to think of the American as a de facto "P6," even thought it's officially (de jure) a "G5" conference. The somewhat derisive term "G4" only pops up occasionally in conversations between AAC fans who maintain the pretense that the American is consistently head and shoulders above the other G5s in all respects.

For another, the idea of holding a "G4 playoff" is absurd because the C-USA, MAC, MWC, and SBC would have no good reason to set up a playoff amongst themselves. What would they be "playing off" for, anyways - - the championship of a non-existent entity? They're generally quite content to conclude their seasons with conference championships and bowl games.

Moreover, C-USA, MAC, MWC, and SBC fans rightly consider it to be an insult to be referred to as "G4" conferences and schools. "G4" would be considered "fighting words" by some of them. I wouldn't advise any AAC fan to walk into a sports bar near any SBC or MWC university and toss the term "G4" around casually - - somebody might haul off and "knock your block off."
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No. And you're nuts with this G4 crap or thinking that any of us would want it. I know my school is not investing $400M in am Athletics village to be Division II. Pass.

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(12-29-2020 12:52 AM)panama Wrote:  No. And you're nuts with this G4 crap or thinking that any of us would want it. I know my school is not investing $400M in am Athletics village to be Division II. Pass.

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(12-29-2020 06:47 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 12:52 AM)panama Wrote:  No. And you're nuts with this G4 crap or thinking that any of us would want it. I know my school is not investing $400M in am Athletics village to be Division II. Pass.

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(12-29-2020 07:16 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 06:47 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 12:52 AM)panama Wrote:  No. And you're nuts with this G4 crap or thinking that any of us would want it. I know my school is not investing $400M in am Athletics village to be Division II. Pass.

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We got G4 on G4 violence happening on our P6 board

This isn't the AAC board? Oops, my bad. Seriously, the AAC needs to officially break away from the G5 and reside in the Nexus.
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(12-29-2020 07:27 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
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(12-29-2020 06:47 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 12:52 AM)panama Wrote:  No. And you're nuts with this G4 crap or thinking that any of us would want it. I know my school is not investing $400M in am Athletics village to be Division II. Pass.

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This isn't the AAC board? Oops, my bad. Seriously, the AAC needs to officially break away from the G5 and reside in the Nexus.

My point was you went "flame on" on the Georgia State fan. I think panama is fuuly capable of handling it, but I thought it was funny
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RE: AAC can never agree to G5 playoff. That's what the P5 is trying to force.
(12-29-2020 05:30 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

That report by Mike James is the best set of arguments I have seen that covers all the points for resisting G5 playoff.
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RE: AAC can never agree to G5 playoff. That's what the P5 is trying to force.
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(12-29-2020 12:52 AM)panama Wrote:  No. And you're nuts with this G4 crap or thinking that any of us would want it. I know my school is not investing $400M in am Athletics village to be Division II. Pass.

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You could invest 1 billion dollars in athletics, if the P5 don't want cha they don't want cha. I hope your school is investing that money for student athlete enhancements and not the hope of becoming a P5 program.
What are you talking about. Who is talking about P5. Stop day drinking and keep up.

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RE: AAC can never agree to G5 playoff. That's what the P5 is trying to force.
(12-29-2020 07:16 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 06:47 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 12:52 AM)panama Wrote:  No. And you're nuts with this G4 crap or thinking that any of us would want it. I know my school is not investing $400M in am Athletics village to be Division II. Pass.

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You could invest 1 billion dollars in athletics, if the P5 don't want cha they don't want cha. I hope your school is investing that money for student athlete enhancements and not the hope of becoming a P5 program.

We got G4 on G4 violence happening on our P6 board
No such thing genius.

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RE: AAC can never agree to G5 playoff. That's what the P5 is trying to force.
(12-29-2020 10:24 PM)panama Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 07:16 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 06:47 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 12:52 AM)panama Wrote:  No. And you're nuts with this G4 crap or thinking that any of us would want it. I know my school is not investing $400M in am Athletics village to be Division II. Pass.

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You could invest 1 billion dollars in athletics, if the P5 don't want cha they don't want cha. I hope your school is investing that money for student athlete enhancements and not the hope of becoming a P5 program.

We got G4 on G4 violence happening on our P6 board
No such thing genius.

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And yet, here you are, hoping for some recognition, or even acknowledgment of your existence, from your betters.
You're welcome.
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RE: AAC can never agree to G5 playoff. That's what the P5 is trying to force.
(12-29-2020 10:23 PM)panama Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 06:47 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 12:52 AM)panama Wrote:  No. And you're nuts with this G4 crap or thinking that any of us would want it. I know my school is not investing $400M in am Athletics village to be Division II. Pass.

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You could invest 1 billion dollars in athletics, if the P5 don't want cha they don't want cha. I hope your school is investing that money for student athlete enhancements and not the hope of becoming a P5 program.
What are you talking about. Who is talking about P5. Stop day drinking and keep up.

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You need to calm the F down Panama Jack. It ain't that serious for real.
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RE: AAC can never agree to G5 playoff. That's what the P5 is trying to force.
(12-29-2020 10:27 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 10:24 PM)panama Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 07:16 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 06:47 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 12:52 AM)panama Wrote:  No. And you're nuts with this G4 crap or thinking that any of us would want it. I know my school is not investing $400M in am Athletics village to be Division II. Pass.

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You could invest 1 billion dollars in athletics, if the P5 don't want cha they don't want cha. I hope your school is investing that money for student athlete enhancements and not the hope of becoming a P5 program.

We got G4 on G4 violence happening on our P6 board
No such thing genius.

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And yet, here you are, hoping for some recognition, or even acknowledgment of your existence, from your betters.
You're welcome.
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