(12-16-2020 07:55 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I have my own calculator, and it says that I will take it after everyone else does. The ultimate act of selflessness.

Yup, 15 years after the last person on earth gets theirs

(12-24-2020 06:48 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 05:13 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 04:52 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:53 AM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  I'm not taking a vaccine for a virus with a 99.5 survival rate....and climbing. Amazing how they were able to come up with a vaccine in 6 months for a virus that didn't exist a year ago. I'm sure its all fine.

Wow, just incredible, an incredible display of ignorance and stupidity.

Stay holed up in your house forever...im getting on with my life. I got a better chance of being struck by lightning than dying from coronavirus.

Not factually accurate. The Rona is now the #1 cause of death in the U.S., lightning strike doesn't make the top 25. Maybe you could get killed driving drunk.

Save your breath Keeper. Those with certain outlooks are not going to change no matter what facts or science says. I'll be very happy to take the vaccine as soon as it made available to me. And no one will be showing up to force you skeptics to take a shot. It is your choice.

(12-24-2020 12:05 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  The estimator had me in May. Got my first shot of two this morning. Your results may vary...

What was the process? Did you call someone? Asking for my parents.

(12-24-2020 08:22 PM)danny1 Wrote:  

(12-24-2020 06:48 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 05:13 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 04:52 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:53 AM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  I'm not taking a vaccine for a virus with a 99.5 survival rate....and climbing. Amazing how they were able to come up with a vaccine in 6 months for a virus that didn't exist a year ago. I'm sure its all fine.

Wow, just incredible, an incredible display of ignorance and stupidity.

Stay holed up in your house forever...im getting on with my life. I got a better chance of being struck by lightning than dying from coronavirus.

Not factually accurate. The Rona is now the #1 cause of death in the U.S., lightning strike doesn't make the top 25. Maybe you could get killed driving drunk.

Save your breath Keeper. Those with certain outlooks are not going to change no matter what facts or science says. I'll be very happy to take the vaccine as soon as it made available to me. And no one will be showing up to force you skeptics to take a shot. It is your choice.

I'm not sure we really know the facts or the science in this. That makes many apprehensive. I'm not sure they want us to know the "facts or the science" as you put it.

While Blind Faith was a great band many, including myself, don't have it.

For those genuinely interested, the science and facts are out there to read and research at a very transparent and detailed level.


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(12-27-2020 11:11 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-24-2020 12:05 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  The estimator had me in May. Got my first shot of two this morning. Your results may vary...

What was the process? Did you call someone? Asking for my parents.

It was through work.

(12-27-2020 12:54 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  For those genuinely interested, the science and facts are out there to read and research at a very transparent and detailed level.


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Link?

Based on that calculation I’m probably getting that shot soon, I’m only behind 268.7 million people across the us, 5.8 million in Tennessee
And in Shelby County, I’m only behind 839,600 others.

I ain't taking no vaccine till I've seen the happy people on teevee..and heard the soothing voice incanting side effects

I’m still in wait and see mode. As posters here do get it, please report black so we can monitor any changes in your posting style.

anyone here with shellfish allergy?

CDC is now posting warning: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nco...ction.html

This is one example.
A Boston physician said he developed a severe allergic reaction minutes after receiving Moderna’s coronavirus vaccine on Thursday, in the first week of the nationwide rollout for the company’s shots.

The case was the first of its kind reported to be linked to Moderna’s vaccine. Federal agencies are investigating at least six cases involving people who suffered anaphylaxis after receiving the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, which contains similar ingredients, during the first few weeks of its distribution in the United States.

After the initial cases accompanying the Pfizer shots, the C.D.C. issued advice that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines might not be appropriate for people with a history of anaphylaxis to ingredients in either injection. Anaphylaxis, which typically happens within minutes after exposure to a triggering substance, can impair breathing and cause precipitous drops in blood pressure, potentially becoming life-threatening.



In the case on Thursday, Dr. Sadrzadeh said he brought his EpiPen to his vaccine appointment because of his serious allergies. He said that within minutes of the vaccine injection at 3:30 p.m., his heart rate had spiked to 150 beats per minute, about twice its normal cadence; his tongue prickled and went numb. Before long, he was drenched in a cold sweat and found himself feeling dizzy and faint. His blood pressure also plummeted, he said.

His immune system, he realized, was in revolt.

“It was the same anaphylactic reaction that I experience with shellfish,” Dr. Sadrzadeh said.

Dr. Sadrzadeh used his EpiPen and was taken on a stretcher to the emergency room, where he was given several medications, including steroids and Benadryl, to calm the immune reactions that had overtaken his body. A record of his visit stated that he had been “seen in the ER for shortness of breath, dizziness, palpitations and numbness after receiving the Covid-19 vaccine.”

I want all you anti-vaxxers to promise me two things:

When you get Covid and need an ICU unit, you won't take a space up from someone who was not able to get the vaccine in time.

And when you get it and die, like 3 of my loved ones have, you will your season football tickets to me.

Fair deal?

It's strange to me that you guys have more fear of a vaccine than a vicious and unpredictable virus. I am wondering if you had watched 3 loved ones die of it like I have, miserable, horrible deaths, and you knew about 4 other Long Haulers like I do that are still very, very sick after 4 months, if you would have the same "fear." Me thinks all you big ole tough guys have misplaced fear. You SHOULD be terrified of Covid.

(12-28-2020 03:39 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  It's strange to me that you guys have more fear of a vaccine than a vicious and unpredictable virus. I am wondering if you had watched 3 loved ones die of it like I have, miserable, horrible deaths, and you knew about 4 other Long Haulers like I do that are still very, very sick after 4 months, if you would have the same "fear." Me thinks all you big ole tough guys have misplaced fear. You SHOULD be terrified of Covid.

I refuse to be scared of something that I have a 99.99% survival chance on. Live in fear if you wish, I refuse to. I've had a family member die of it too, but the chances of me dying from it are in the .004% range.

The elderly and people in a high risk range should probably take it, but people like me do not need it.

(12-28-2020 07:47 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(12-28-2020 03:39 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  It's strange to me that you guys have more fear of a vaccine than a vicious and unpredictable virus. I am wondering if you had watched 3 loved ones die of it like I have, miserable, horrible deaths, and you knew about 4 other Long Haulers like I do that are still very, very sick after 4 months, if you would have the same "fear." Me thinks all you big ole tough guys have misplaced fear. You SHOULD be terrified of Covid.

I refuse to be scared of something that I have a 99.99% survival chance on. Live in fear if you wish, I refuse to. I've had a family member die of it too, but the chances of me dying from it are in the .004% range.

The elderly and people in a high risk range should probably take it, but people like me do not need it.

What is your risk of dying from the vaccine?

Likely much lower...Then that must mean you would have no issue taking it right.

(12-28-2020 03:39 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  It's strange to me that you guys have more fear of a vaccine than a vicious and unpredictable virus. I am wondering if you had watched 3 loved ones die of it like I have, miserable, horrible deaths, and you knew about 4 other Long Haulers like I do that are still very, very sick after 4 months, if you would have the same "fear." Me thinks all you big ole tough guys have misplaced fear. You SHOULD be terrified of Covid.

Normal people should be terrified of people like you. You have had horrible, tragic experiences, but you are projecting your horrible experiences onto others, and have openly wished that people get it and die.

Who cares if someone doesn't want the vaccine? Before then, everyone that wants it will have access to it. In September when everyone that wants it has taken it, there will be a combination of those that are immune, those that have had it, herd immunity, and a low number of cases, making it less lethal than the flu.

Quote:Me thinks all you big ole tough guys have misplaced fear.

Follow the science, blah blah blah. The usual time frame for a drug of this nature to go from creation to your neighborhood drugstore is 8-11 years; with a testing period on humans typically being between 3-6 years.

As an example; Quaaludes were prescribed in the US between 1965 up until 1984, when many of them were made illegal and banned. Many drugs go to market and then get pulled years later when they are deemed to be dangerous or to have dangerous side effects. Why would anyone assume that these vaccines are safe?

The science has ALWAYS told us to NOT take this or any drug 6 months after it has been created. You think it makes sense for someone who never gets sick, to take this 6 months after it was created? On what planet?

(12-28-2020 09:33 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-28-2020 07:47 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(12-28-2020 03:39 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  It's strange to me that you guys have more fear of a vaccine than a vicious and unpredictable virus. I am wondering if you had watched 3 loved ones die of it like I have, miserable, horrible deaths, and you knew about 4 other Long Haulers like I do that are still very, very sick after 4 months, if you would have the same "fear." Me thinks all you big ole tough guys have misplaced fear. You SHOULD be terrified of Covid.

I refuse to be scared of something that I have a 99.99% survival chance on. Live in fear if you wish, I refuse to. I've had a family member die of it too, but the chances of me dying from it are in the .004% range.

The elderly and people in a high risk range should probably take it, but people like me do not need it.

What is your risk of dying from the vaccine?

Likely much lower...Then that must mean you would have no issue taking it right.

Tell us what the risk is of dying from the vaccine. I'll assume that you have a link to to at least 2 years of testing on animals, 3 years of testing on humans, with half of the subjects being given a placebo, and then 3 years of testing in a tightly controlled environment.

So by all means, tell us what the risk is of dying from the vaccine.

The CDC itself is telling people with severe shellfish allergies not to take the vaccine at this time. They are searching for the ingredient that’s causing anaphylactic reactions in some folks so it can be eliminated. But they learned this info by giving people the vaccine.

What is unclear about that ...

They also noticed during their small trials that there were twice as many attacks of appendicitis in the group receiving the vaccine. That’s interesting too. As for Bell’s palsy ... there were instances of it during trials but no more than the usual amount — the drug companies decided.

I just wonder what else they will notice now that they have hosts of free guinea pigs with no liability attached.

(12-28-2020 03:31 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  I want all you anti-vaxxers to promise me two things:

When you get Covid and need an ICU unit, you won't take a space up from someone who was not able to get the vaccine in time.

And when you get it and die, like 3 of my loved ones have, you will your season football tickets to me.

Fair deal?

geez
If people were refused healthcare based upon risky choices, none of us would get care - including you.