I still have not gotten over the BG vs Toledo Peace Pipe award being tossed. Now its a lame I75 award. I've often wondered what UC, UK, UT, GT etc.... think about us claiming the I-75 award. Its embarrassing. Plus BG has only won the game once since the Peace Pipe was replaced.

A friggin Peace Pipe was too much for them.

(12-14-2020 01:28 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  A fricken high school by me is called the Dutch b/c the area & city was heavily settled by the Dutch. They opened a comittee to explore changing the name.

It DOES NOT stop

It's not new.

When I was growing up on Long Island, the Hofstra University teams were called The Flying Dutchmen. I thought that was the coolest name ever. They traded it some years back for the "Pride". How completely lame.

(12-14-2020 12:47 AM)450bench Wrote:  Nobody takes offense. Libs just want you to think someone does. It’s who they are.

Most injuns when asked said they took a certain amount of pride in the name Redskins, especially when they could play football well.

Only thing "offensive" about them of late has been their on field play. Oh, and owner. He's offensive enough himself.

(12-14-2020 03:43 PM)Siborg Wrote:  I still have not gotten over the BG vs Toledo Peace Pipe award being tossed. Now its a lame I75 award. I've often wondered what UC, UK, UT, GT etc.... think about us claiming the I-75 award. Its embarrassing. Plus BG has only won the game once since the Peace Pipe was replaced.

A friggin Peace Pipe was too much for them.

Didn't know there was such a trophy. Frankly, I75 in Greater Cincinnati has been a nightmare for decades. That's why I live on the east side and drive on I-71 if I have to travel north or south.

The Peace Pipe sounds cool.

(12-14-2020 08:25 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  I heard that one of the considerations was "Spiders". Ugh....

Wouldn't a black widow be offensive? Don't know, just axing.

Braves remain committed to name as other teams make changes

Atlanta Braves| Dec 14, 2020

Quote:The Braves continue to signal a commitment to their team name, including a spotlight on Native American culture and tradition in recent weeks, as other professional sports franchises have opted to change names.

Braves officials told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution in July they have no intention of changing the name of the franchise nor the use of a tomahawk as a logo. They are discussing the tomahawk chant often done at home games.

“We are so proud of our team’s name, and our expectation is that we will always be the Atlanta Braves,” Terry McGuirk, the Braves’ chairman, told the AJC.

“I would say unequivocally the Atlanta Braves’ name will stay the Atlanta Braves,” he added later. “We come to that position as a result of … a lot of listening to our fans, to the Native American community. We have spent the last six months trying to make sure we are grounded in everything we say going forward, so I would again answer the question: Yes, we will be the Atlanta Braves.”

The Braves haven’t responded to requests for comment Monday in the aftermath of the Cleveland news.

The NFL’s Kansas City Chiefs and the National Hockey League’s Chicago Blackhawks have also said they have no intention of changing their names.

“The brand goes along with the name,” McGuirk told the AJC. “The tomahawk logo on the jersey as a big piece of our iconography is here to stay. We are proud of it. We think our constituencies hold it in an equally high level of esteem.”

Schiller said the Braves name, to him, “means somebody who possesses courage, is a warrior. So for me, it’s held in high regard and it’s esteemed by the Native American culture and it’s powerful. It’s very representative of strength and honor.”

The Braves franchise was known by various other names in the late 1800s and early 1900s in Boston: the Red Stockings, Red Caps, Beaneaters, Doves and Rustlers. The team was renamed the Braves in 1912 and known by that moniker until 1936, when the name was changed to the Bees. The team returned to Braves in 1941, and that name followed the franchise as it moved from Boston to Milwaukee in 1953 and from Milwaukee to Atlanta in 1966.

in other Braves/MLB news:
Marcell Ozuna named NL’s first Outstanding Designated Hitter!


well, I guess that's the wave of the future.

(12-14-2020 07:24 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 08:25 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  I heard that one of the considerations was "Spiders". Ugh....

Wouldn't a black widow be offensive? Don't know, just axing.

With Cleveland's Rock n roll HOF, they could change their team song to "Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from...Cleveland" (so as not to offend aliens: (Martians))

I like Cleveland People who were here first.

(12-14-2020 01:28 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  A fricken high school by me is called the Dutch b/c the area & city was heavily settled by the Dutch. They opened a comittee to explore changing the name.

It DOES NOT stop

If you ain't Dutch you ain't much. Probably originated in W. Michigan.

What about "Browns"???

Surely there's something offensive, racist and derogatory in there somewhere.

[Disclaimer: Yes, I know the franchise was founded by Paul Brown. No history lesson needed]

I expect the Lakers and Rockers will get some play. Personally I would go with The Surge or The Union.

(12-14-2020 10:51 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 10:34 AM)fsquid Wrote:  It's a business move, now they'll move an insane amount of merchandise as people replace their old stuff.

Was there really that much Cleveland stuff out there to begin with?

Yes, and there will still be a collectors market for Indians merch. And the owner says they will not cancel prior Indians history.

(12-15-2020 01:17 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  What about "Browns"???

Surely there's something offensive, racist and derogatory in there somewhere.

[Disclaimer: Yes, I know the franchise was founded by Paul Brown. No history lesson needed]

Jim Brown is on it...James and Paul are dead...

Quote:CLEVELAND, OH—Due to mounting pressure from a growing consensus of 12 people on Twitter and The New York Times, the Cleveland Indians have finally chosen to change their team's name and get rid of the highly offensive "Chief Wahoo" mascot. After testing several new names with focus groups, the owners finally settled on the highly non-offensive title "Cleveland Genderless Sports Players With No Discernable Racial Features Or Specific Ethnic Background."

"After listening to the earnest pleas of a few recent college grads who sat through a Native American History course once, we realized something had to change," said owner Paul Dolan. "Once we make this change, we expect the lives of indigenous people to improve exponentially."

In addition to the name change, the Cleveland Indians will also replace Chief Wahoo with a generic, genderless, racially ambiguous grey face with purple hair.

Activists are continuing to push the organization to do more to right the wrongs brought about by decades of racial insensitivity. In response, the team will offer free season tickets to anyone named "Wahoo."

Link

Simply unnecessary. Do away with the nutty Chief Wahoo..but..keep the name and put in legit native mascot..name it "Shooting Star" after Tecumseh. No native american could have a problem with that.

(12-14-2020 05:57 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 03:43 PM)Siborg Wrote:  I still have not gotten over the BG vs Toledo Peace Pipe award being tossed. Now its a lame I75 award. I've often wondered what UC, UK, UT, GT etc.... think about us claiming the I-75 award. Its embarrassing. Plus BG has only won the game once since the Peace Pipe was replaced.

A friggin Peace Pipe was too much for them.

Didn't know there was such a trophy. Frankly, I75 in Greater Cincinnati has been a nightmare for decades. That's why I live on the east side and drive on I-71 if I have to travel north or south.

The Peace Pipe sounds cool.

Change it to the "Bong Bowl" and nobody would complain.

Well it won't be long Money Ball will be replaced with Commie Ball. Nobody gets paid but its an honor for you to play for the state. And the game itself will change. You can't have inequity so it will be 3 strikes for an out and 3 balls for a walk. Walking is encouraged because in Commie Ball getting a free base is virtually a right. Oh and no double plays or triple plays. Extra effort is frowned upon and having more than one out on a play somehow seems Capitalistic and unjust to the batter who hits into one.

And you can forget about mascot names. Each city will have a civic issue for their nickname. Cleveland Crime, Atlanta Gangs, Detroit Lead, San Francisco Feces, Seattle Privileged, Washington Pollution, Los Angeles Smog, Tampa Bay Backwash, New York Profiteers, Boston Syndicate, St. Louis Projects, etc.

Each year two new teams must appear in the World Series. It's bad for the citizens if they are under represented. But hey look on the bright side. It's going to make you appreciate the good old Network's jobbing of the CFP which will not only seem nostalgic, but somehow fair amid its greed for the 4 best audience draws for profit's sake!

Yes sir, great sports times are ahead for the People's Republic of America (inclusive of Mexico and Canada too!).

My local NFL team has a black panther for it’s mascot.

(12-16-2020 07:24 AM)Chappy Wrote:  My local NFL team has a black panther for it’s mascot.

that's all fine and savvy in the world of Marvell...

the anomaly would be a blonde surfing panther...pelosi & corp. would approve...

how are those prepaid/negotiated ad $$$ working out these days...

#WW'84

Maybe we should just do away with all sports nicknames

University of Memphis basketball team
Atlanta baseball team
Dallas football team


I mean, Washington Football Team is just so ridiculously stupid as everyone still calls them the Redskins.