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(11-11-2020 09:24 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(11-11-2020 06:58 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Watching Des the last few games... it's frustrating, because he looks like he's 1-2 deep balls a game away from being great. I'm happy to say he has shut a lot of naysayers up -- including myself. But I do hope Bryant is ready to go, because in 2020, he can be called into action at any moment.

My hand is up as well but what can really be said except for the fact that he's exponentially stepped up his performance. i don't think it unfair to say that we were winning in spite of him early on and it is certainly accurate to say that we are crushing because of him now. if we're picking nits, his passing accuracy still leaves a lot to be desired, and not just on deep balls. He still throws behind receivers and that gives me pause as that is the type of ball that ends up being a pick-6. The good news is that means he still has room to grow. Given what we've seen so far, Peak Ridder may be record shattering.

Yea, I was also extremely critical and I agree that there is essentially nothing wrong with it. The fact that just about all of us that were critical have immediately come out and admitted he is playing significantly better now just shows that we don’t have any bias against him and were just giving our honest evaluation of his performances.

I also agree that he still has a ways to go, specifically on his deep ball. Sure he misses some of his short/mid throws but those are mostly fine though he does miss an occasional throw still.

Let’s just hope that he continues to take steps forward each game and improve. If he can do that we are going to be a dangerous team by the end of the year.

Can we finally put this shiit to bed?

(11-21-2020 07:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Can we finally put this shiit to bed?

I...think we all have?

I still like Ben better, because I think he has a higher ceiling. I think they'll need a accurate passer to win on the biggest stage. Dez had a great night though.

This was probably Des' best passing game. Made one bad pass which was a bad decision but in terms of the shorter or medium range passes where he was hitting receivers on the move, he was way more accurate, leading his receivers in most cases. Wasn't perfect but was better than before, imo.

(11-21-2020 07:54 PM)eroc Wrote:  This was probably Des' best passing game. Made one bad pass which was a bad decision but in terms of the shorter or medium range passes where he was hitting receivers on the move, he was way more accurate, leading his receivers in most cases. Wasn't perfect but was better than before, imo.

He looked much better, for sure.

I've read it here numerous times, if dez has 250 yards total, uc wins (anyone know the w/l for this?). He played very well tonight and beat them largely through the air making the smart throw

(11-21-2020 07:55 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 07:54 PM)eroc Wrote:  This was probably Des' best passing game. Made one bad pass which was a bad decision but in terms of the shorter or medium range passes where he was hitting receivers on the move, he was way more accurate, leading his receivers in most cases. Wasn't perfect but was better than before, imo.

He looked much better, for sure.

Receivers dropped several passes as well.

Even when we were losing at the beginning, it was not on Ridder. In fact, he is now carrying his weight and even more than his own weight at times. That’s what makes us dangerous.

More and more hype about him being drafted too.

I’m glad I was wrong and he finally took the next step (or 2). He still has flaws, but they are getting smaller and his positives far outweighs the negatives now. Look forward to watching him continue to develop.

(11-21-2020 07:57 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 07:55 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 07:54 PM)eroc Wrote:  This was probably Des' best passing game. Made one bad pass which was a bad decision but in terms of the shorter or medium range passes where he was hitting receivers on the move, he was way more accurate, leading his receivers in most cases. Wasn't perfect but was better than before, imo.

He looked much better, for sure.

Receivers dropped several passes as well.

Definitely...the Taylor one comes top of mind but i'm sure there were others.

Des carried this team through adversity. He’s gotten so much better as the season has worn on and you can tell the team respects him.

(11-21-2020 08:02 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Des carried this team through adversity. He’s gotten so much better as the season has worn on and you can tell the team respects him.

Yea and I think that’s what is intriguing NFL scouts about him. His improvement and his raw talent give him a high ceiling. I think he had a low floor as well, but the potential is clear with his arm strength, size, speed, and leadership wualities.

Someone is going to have to look it up but I can't remember the last time he has thrown back-to-back 300+ yard games and no interceptions to boot!

ECU
327 YDS
3 TD
0 INT

UCF
338 YDS
2 TD
0 INT

Tell me having our plethora of tight ends hasn't helped Rid's game? He also seems like he's seeing the field better. A sign that our change on the offensive line has helped shore up the pass protection.

I'll eat a little crow here. I still think he needed to be benched last year but I didn't think he would ever be good enough to win the type of game we won today with both teams in the 30s. You don't have to be an Nfl prospect. A good running qb who can complete some short and intermediate passes can win a lot of college games.

(11-21-2020 08:07 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  I'll eat a little crow here. I still think he needed to be benched last year but I didn't think he would ever be good enough to win the type of game we won today with both teams in the 30s. You don't have to be an Nfl prospect. A good running qb who can complete some short and intermediate passes can win a lot of college games.

Exactly! He's our walmart brand terrelle pryor. If he keeps it up, uc will be very good

(11-21-2020 08:16 PM)Lurkercat Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 08:07 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  I'll eat a little crow here. I still think he needed to be benched last year but I didn't think he would ever be good enough to win the type of game we won today with both teams in the 30s. You don't have to be an Nfl prospect. A good running qb who can complete some short and intermediate passes can win a lot of college games.

Exactly! He's our walmart brand terrelle pryor. If he keeps it up, uc will be very good

i actually think he's as good a passer as terrelle but not as good a runner. And that first part is not a compliment.

(11-21-2020 08:04 PM)C1ncy4Life Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 08:02 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Des carried this team through adversity. He’s gotten so much better as the season has worn on and you can tell the team respects him.

Yea and I think that’s what is intriguing NFL scouts about him. His improvement and his raw talent give him a high ceiling. I think he had a low floor as well, but the potential is clear with his arm strength, size, speed, and leadership wualities.

He'll never play a down in the league, but he is effective for college ball. The NFL relies on skills that are just so rare, much easier and more reliable to stock a college roster up with runners who can complete some simple pass plays. Increasingly, the best HS QBs are signing with MAC type programs where they can develop properly w/o risk of getting benched. Why risk the Burrow treatment? Even Brady had to fight for playing time at Michigan.

(11-21-2020 11:06 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 08:04 PM)C1ncy4Life Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 08:02 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Des carried this team through adversity. He’s gotten so much better as the season has worn on and you can tell the team respects him.

Yea and I think that’s what is intriguing NFL scouts about him. His improvement and his raw talent give him a high ceiling. I think he had a low floor as well, but the potential is clear with his arm strength, size, speed, and leadership wualities.

He'll never play a down in the league, but he is effective for college ball. The NFL relies on skills that are just so rare, much easier and more reliable to stock a college roster up with runners who can complete some simple pass plays. Increasingly, the best HS QBs are signing with MAC type programs where they can develop properly w/o risk of getting benched. Why risk the Burrow treatment? Even Brady had to fight for playing time at Michigan.

Definitely something a promising QB should consider. Matt Cassel played behind Carson Palmer and Matt Leinert and never had an opportunity in college. He was lucky and was still able to have a nice pro career, but I would imagine he wishes he would have had a shot to be the man in college.

(11-21-2020 07:59 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 07:57 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 07:55 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 07:54 PM)eroc Wrote:  This was probably Des' best passing game. Made one bad pass which was a bad decision but in terms of the shorter or medium range passes where he was hitting receivers on the move, he was way more accurate, leading his receivers in most cases. Wasn't perfect but was better than before, imo.

He looked much better, for sure.

Receivers dropped several passes as well.

Definitely...the Taylor one comes top of mind but i'm sure there were others.

Ford dropped a wide open swing pass as I recall

(11-21-2020 11:06 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 08:04 PM)C1ncy4Life Wrote:  

(11-21-2020 08:02 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Des carried this team through adversity. He’s gotten so much better as the season has worn on and you can tell the team respects him.

Yea and I think that’s what is intriguing NFL scouts about him. His improvement and his raw talent give him a high ceiling. I think he had a low floor as well, but the potential is clear with his arm strength, size, speed, and leadership wualities.

He'll never play a down in the league, but he is effective for college ball. The NFL relies on skills that are just so rare, much easier and more reliable to stock a college roster up with runners who can complete some simple pass plays. Increasingly, the best HS QBs are signing with MAC type programs where they can develop properly w/o risk of getting benched. Why risk the Burrow treatment? Even Brady had to fight for playing time at Michigan.

His skill set could get him a nice CFL run ala Collaros.