(11-08-2020 01:21 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 12:57 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 12:34 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(11-07-2020 09:04 AM)Todor Wrote:  Chicago State is staying put unless they drop out of D1, which they won't do.

Why they won't be dropping out of D1-
1. They don't want to-if they did they would have long ago
2. They don't need to-Illinois budgets and CSU enrollment have rebounded some

They have a larger enrollment and athletics budget than numerous existing D1 schools.
They found a conference that needs them. Why would they leave? They won't be forced out.

Also you:

"I hate to break it to you, but until the move ups actually become full D1 members, it is they that have little value. As of right now, which is all that counts, the "outliers" are the only reason there was a conference for aspiring members to join."

Lol, I just caught this one...
Delusional much? <3k enrollment, and a <$6mil athletic budget? C'mon, man! Facts: WAC has been reinvigorated with the addition of Dixie and Tarleton. All this SUU and SLC talk wouldn't even be happening if we weren't already on board. These schools from existing FCS conferences want to join us financially stable football-playing schools, not Chi St. or Seattle. You chumps really need to knock it off with all the "moveup" hate, and go ahead and roll out that red carpet. You're welcome.

Ok, fact: Chicago State is not the smallest D1 school and does not have the smallest athletic budget. Do you dispute those facts?

I'll get that red carpet ready for, what, 2024 when you become full D1 members.

Five. Exactly five other D1 programs in the entire U.S. are worse off than Chi St. budget wise. I wouldn't call that "numerous", by any stretch.
No, we'd actually prefer that well-deserved red carpet now, thanks!

Oh well. They still aren't going anywhere.

(11-08-2020 01:32 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 01:21 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 12:57 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 12:34 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(11-07-2020 09:04 AM)Todor Wrote:  Chicago State is staying put unless they drop out of D1, which they won't do.

Why they won't be dropping out of D1-
1. They don't want to-if they did they would have long ago
2. They don't need to-Illinois budgets and CSU enrollment have rebounded some

They have a larger enrollment and athletics budget than numerous existing D1 schools.
They found a conference that needs them. Why would they leave? They won't be forced out.

Also you:

"I hate to break it to you, but until the move ups actually become full D1 members, it is they that have little value. As of right now, which is all that counts, the "outliers" are the only reason there was a conference for aspiring members to join."

Lol, I just caught this one...
Delusional much? <3k enrollment, and a <$6mil athletic budget? C'mon, man! Facts: WAC has been reinvigorated with the addition of Dixie and Tarleton. All this SUU and SLC talk wouldn't even be happening if we weren't already on board. These schools from existing FCS conferences want to join us financially stable football-playing schools, not Chi St. or Seattle. You chumps really need to knock it off with all the "moveup" hate, and go ahead and roll out that red carpet. You're welcome.

Ok, fact: Chicago State is not the smallest D1 school and does not have the smallest athletic budget. Do you dispute those facts?

I'll get that red carpet ready for, what, 2024 when you become full D1 members.

Five. Exactly five other D1 programs in the entire U.S. are worse off than Chi St. budget wise. I wouldn't call that "numerous", by any stretch.
No, we'd actually prefer that well-deserved red carpet now, thanks!

Oh well. They still aren't going anywhere.

Nope, not yet.

(11-08-2020 01:34 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 01:32 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 01:21 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 12:57 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 12:34 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Also you:

"I hate to break it to you, but until the move ups actually become full D1 members, it is they that have little value. As of right now, which is all that counts, the "outliers" are the only reason there was a conference for aspiring members to join."

Lol, I just caught this one...
Delusional much? <3k enrollment, and a <$6mil athletic budget? C'mon, man! Facts: WAC has been reinvigorated with the addition of Dixie and Tarleton. All this SUU and SLC talk wouldn't even be happening if we weren't already on board. These schools from existing FCS conferences want to join us financially stable football-playing schools, not Chi St. or Seattle. You chumps really need to knock it off with all the "moveup" hate, and go ahead and roll out that red carpet. You're welcome.

Ok, fact: Chicago State is not the smallest D1 school and does not have the smallest athletic budget. Do you dispute those facts?

I'll get that red carpet ready for, what, 2024 when you become full D1 members.

Five. Exactly five other D1 programs in the entire U.S. are worse off than Chi St. budget wise. I wouldn't call that "numerous", by any stretch.
No, we'd actually prefer that well-deserved red carpet now, thanks!

Oh well. They still aren't going anywhere.

Nope, not yet.

Well, it takes 6 and they're the 6th. And we're years away from that changing. They are doing us a favor, we're not doing them a favor.

(11-08-2020 01:37 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 01:34 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 01:32 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 01:21 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 12:57 AM)Todor Wrote:  Ok, fact: Chicago State is not the smallest D1 school and does not have the smallest athletic budget. Do you dispute those facts?

I'll get that red carpet ready for, what, 2024 when you become full D1 members.

Five. Exactly five other D1 programs in the entire U.S. are worse off than Chi St. budget wise. I wouldn't call that "numerous", by any stretch.
No, we'd actually prefer that well-deserved red carpet now, thanks!

Oh well. They still aren't going anywhere.

Nope, not yet.

Well, it takes 6 and they're the 6th. And we're years away from that changing. They are doing us a favor, we're not doing them a favor.

How sweet.

(11-08-2020 12:34 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(11-07-2020 09:04 AM)Todor Wrote:  Chicago State is staying put unless they drop out of D1, which they won't do.

Why they won't be dropping out of D1-
1. They don't want to-if they did they would have long ago
2. They don't need to-Illinois budgets and CSU enrollment have rebounded some

They have a larger enrollment and athletics budget than numerous existing D1 schools.
They found a conference that needs them. Why would they leave? They won't be forced out.

Also you:

"I hate to break it to you, but until the move ups actually become full D1 members, it is they that have little value. As of right now, which is all that counts, the "outliers" are the only reason there was a conference for aspiring members to join."

Lol, I just caught this one...
Delusional much? <3k enrollment, and a <$6mil athletic budget? C'mon, man! Facts: WAC has been reinvigorated with the addition of Dixie and Tarleton. All this SUU and SLC talk wouldn't even be happening if we weren't already on board. These schools from existing FCS conferences want to join us financially stable football-playing schools, not Chi St. or Seattle. You chumps really need to knock it off with all the "moveup" hate, and go ahead and roll out that red carpet. You're welcome.

Dang bro, you're starting to sound like Georgia Southern fans when they joined the Sun Belt. "Bow down to us, we have 6 Nattys.". To be fair, that first season went pretty well for them though!

Wow. Everything you ever wanted to know (or already know) on the subject:

https://www.college-sports-journal.com/w...ys-shadow/

His "NEW WAC" setup is interesting.

I'd take out Pueblo and plug in Azusa, but it looks pretty good on paper

THE NEW WAC

New Mexico State*
Dixie State
Tarleton State
Southern Utah
San Diego
Cal Poly
Northern Arizona
Abilene Christian
West Texas A&M / Azusa Pacific
Colorado State-Pueblo

(11-09-2020 04:16 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 01:58 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Wow. Everything you ever wanted to know (or already know) on the subject:

https://www.college-sports-journal.com/w...ys-shadow/

His "NEW WAC" setup is interesting.

I'd take out Pueblo and plug in Azusa, but it looks pretty good on paper

THE NEW WAC

New Mexico State*
Dixie State
Tarleton State
Southern Utah
San Diego
Cal Poly
Northern Arizona
Abilene Christian
West Texas A&M / Azusa Pacific
Colorado State-Pueblo

I object to that line-up.

For what reason?

(11-09-2020 04:18 PM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 04:16 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 01:58 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Wow. Everything you ever wanted to know (or already know) on the subject:

https://www.college-sports-journal.com/w...ys-shadow/

His "NEW WAC" setup is interesting.

I'd take out Pueblo and plug in Azusa, but it looks pretty good on paper

THE NEW WAC

New Mexico State*
Dixie State
Tarleton State
Southern Utah
San Diego
Cal Poly
Northern Arizona
Abilene Christian
West Texas A&M / Azusa Pacific
Colorado State-Pueblo

I object to that line-up.

For what reason?

Oops. Realized he was just talking about WAC football and deleted the post. But you typed too quick and now the mistake is frozen, to be seen for all eternity.

(11-09-2020 04:21 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 04:18 PM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 04:16 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 01:58 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Wow. Everything you ever wanted to know (or already know) on the subject:

https://www.college-sports-journal.com/w...ys-shadow/

His "NEW WAC" setup is interesting.

I'd take out Pueblo and plug in Azusa, but it looks pretty good on paper

THE NEW WAC

New Mexico State*
Dixie State
Tarleton State
Southern Utah
San Diego
Cal Poly
Northern Arizona
Abilene Christian
West Texas A&M / Azusa Pacific
Colorado State-Pueblo

I object to that line-up.

For what reason?

Oops. Realized he was just talking about WAC football and deleted the post. But you typed too quick and now the mistake is frozen, to be seen for all eternity.

A monument for the future to gaze upon

(11-09-2020 01:58 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Wow. Everything you ever wanted to know (or already know) on the subject:

https://www.college-sports-journal.com/w...ys-shadow/

His "NEW WAC" setup is interesting.

I'd take out Pueblo and plug in Azusa, but it looks pretty good on paper

THE NEW WAC

New Mexico State*
Dixie State
Tarleton State
Southern Utah
San Diego
Cal Poly
Northern Arizona
Abilene Christian
West Texas A&M / Azusa Pacific
Colorado State-Pueblo

The article was fine. He definitely did some research. But he talks about San Diego being a huge outlier in the Pioneer and huge travel costs as being reasons to move to the WAC. The costs to provide FB scholarships in the WAC would far outnumber any travel costs.

He also says NMSU needs to do a study about dropping to FCS. We did and concluded it's a no-go. He also talks about the expenses of being an Indy in the FBS and how hard it is to make an indy schedule. We have solid schedules out to 2025 and make $2-3M in P5 games, so that doesn't compute.

(11-10-2020 11:52 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 01:58 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Wow. Everything you ever wanted to know (or already know) on the subject:

https://www.college-sports-journal.com/w...ys-shadow/

His "NEW WAC" setup is interesting.

I'd take out Pueblo and plug in Azusa, but it looks pretty good on paper

THE NEW WAC

New Mexico State*
Dixie State
Tarleton State
Southern Utah
San Diego
Cal Poly
Northern Arizona
Abilene Christian
West Texas A&M / Azusa Pacific
Colorado State-Pueblo

The article was fine. He definitely did some research. But he talks about San Diego being a huge outlier in the Pioneer and huge travel costs as being reasons to move to the WAC. The costs to provide FB scholarships in the WAC would far outnumber any travel costs.

He also says NMSU needs to do a study about dropping to FCS. We did and concluded it's a no-go. He also talks about the expenses of being an Indy in the FBS and how hard it is to make an indy schedule. We have solid schedules out to 2025 and make $2-3M in P5 games, so that doesn't compute.

$2-3M pre covid and I can see schools trying to pay less once we are all out of the woods from covid. At least for a period of time.

There is talks keep coming up about conference USA to split up. Could the WAC grab those teams?

New Mexico State
UTEP
Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Lamar
Sam Houston State
SFAU
Abilene Christian

Would make 9 FBS teams.

West Texas A&M
Dixie State
Southern Utah
Tarleton State
Colorado Mesa

Could spend time in FCS until they can build up their stadiums.
Could Chicago State go to the Horizon?
Seattle U. and California Baptist to the Big West?

Utah Valley, Grand Canyon and UTRGV could be non-football schools unless they move to the Big West as well?

I picked Colorado Mesa because they do have the sports in place and in a much better position to move to D1 then CSU-Pueblo.

I would try and recruit Northern Arizona and Central Oklahoma to the conference. If Southern Utah do not budge? I would go after larger D2 schools in the footprint.

(11-13-2020 10:59 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There is talks keep coming up about conference USA to split up. Could the WAC grab those teams?

New Mexico State
UTEP
Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Lamar
Sam Houston State
SFAU
Abilene Christian

Would make 9 FBS teams.

West Texas A&M
Dixie State
Southern Utah
Tarleton State
Colorado Mesa

Could spend time in FCS until they can build up their stadiums.
Could Chicago State go to the Horizon?
Seattle U. and California Baptist to the Big West?

Utah Valley, Grand Canyon and UTRGV could be non-football schools unless they move to the Big West as well?

I picked Colorado Mesa because they do have the sports in place and in a much better position to move to D1 then CSU-Pueblo.

I would try and recruit Northern Arizona and Central Oklahoma to the conference. If Southern Utah do not budge? I would go after larger D2 schools in the footprint.

I don’t know why I bother sometimes. UNT, UTSA, Rice, and UTEP aren’t leaving CUSA to join with NMSU and Sam Houston.

UTRGV to the Big West? Are you slow? I will personally send you $20,000 and get a tattoo of your post if UTRGV joins the Big West.

(11-13-2020 11:40 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 10:59 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There is talks keep coming up about conference USA to split up. Could the WAC grab those teams?

New Mexico State
UTEP
Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Lamar
Sam Houston State
SFAU
Abilene Christian

Would make 9 FBS teams.

West Texas A&M
Dixie State
Southern Utah
Tarleton State
Colorado Mesa

Could spend time in FCS until they can build up their stadiums.
Could Chicago State go to the Horizon?
Seattle U. and California Baptist to the Big West?

Utah Valley, Grand Canyon and UTRGV could be non-football schools unless they move to the Big West as well?

I picked Colorado Mesa because they do have the sports in place and in a much better position to move to D1 then CSU-Pueblo.

I would try and recruit Northern Arizona and Central Oklahoma to the conference. If Southern Utah do not budge? I would go after larger D2 schools in the footprint.

I don’t know why I bother sometimes. UNT, UTSA, Rice, and UTEP aren’t leaving CUSA to join with NMSU and Sam Houston.

UTRGV to the Big West? Are you slow? I will personally send you $20,000 and get a tattoo of your post if UTRGV joins the Big West.

Agreed. Probably not happening. But I wouldnt mind seeing cusa and the Sun Belt reorganizing into eastern and central based conferences like what was discussed ad naseum back when Covid first hit.

I think it would be cool to see TXST, UNT, UTSA, RICE, UTEP, NMSU, ULM, Louisiana, La Tech, and Arkansas State be the new Sun Belt. Makes too much sense for it to happen though.

(11-08-2020 01:21 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 12:57 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(11-08-2020 12:34 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(11-07-2020 09:04 AM)Todor Wrote:  Chicago State is staying put unless they drop out of D1, which they won't do.

Why they won't be dropping out of D1-
1. They don't want to-if they did they would have long ago
2. They don't need to-Illinois budgets and CSU enrollment have rebounded some

They have a larger enrollment and athletics budget than numerous existing D1 schools.
They found a conference that needs them. Why would they leave? They won't be forced out.

Also you:

"I hate to break it to you, but until the move ups actually become full D1 members, it is they that have little value. As of right now, which is all that counts, the "outliers" are the only reason there was a conference for aspiring members to join."

Lol, I just caught this one...
Delusional much? <3k enrollment, and a <$6mil athletic budget? C'mon, man! Facts: WAC has been reinvigorated with the addition of Dixie and Tarleton. All this SUU and SLC talk wouldn't even be happening if we weren't already on board. These schools from existing FCS conferences want to join us financially stable football-playing schools, not Chi St. or Seattle. You chumps really need to knock it off with all the "moveup" hate, and go ahead and roll out that red carpet. You're welcome.

Ok, fact: Chicago State is not the smallest D1 school and does not have the smallest athletic budget. Do you dispute those facts?

I'll get that red carpet ready for, what, 2024 when you become full D1 members.

Five. Exactly five other D1 programs in the entire U.S. are worse off than Chi St. budget wise. I wouldn't call that "numerous", by any stretch.
No, we'd actually prefer that well-deserved red carpet now, thanks!

Just curious—which 5? I’m guessing MEAC or SWAC schools?

(11-14-2020 02:45 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 11:40 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 10:59 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There is talks keep coming up about conference USA to split up. Could the WAC grab those teams?

New Mexico State
UTEP
Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Lamar
Sam Houston State
SFAU
Abilene Christian

Would make 9 FBS teams.

West Texas A&M
Dixie State
Southern Utah
Tarleton State
Colorado Mesa

Could spend time in FCS until they can build up their stadiums.
Could Chicago State go to the Horizon?
Seattle U. and California Baptist to the Big West?

Utah Valley, Grand Canyon and UTRGV could be non-football schools unless they move to the Big West as well?

I picked Colorado Mesa because they do have the sports in place and in a much better position to move to D1 then CSU-Pueblo.

I would try and recruit Northern Arizona and Central Oklahoma to the conference. If Southern Utah do not budge? I would go after larger D2 schools in the footprint.

I don’t know why I bother sometimes. UNT, UTSA, Rice, and UTEP aren’t leaving CUSA to join with NMSU and Sam Houston.

UTRGV to the Big West? Are you slow? I will personally send you $20,000 and get a tattoo of your post if UTRGV joins the Big West.

Agreed. Probably not happening. But I wouldnt mind seeing cusa and the Sun Belt reorganizing into eastern and central based conferences like what was discussed ad naseum back when Covid first hit.

I think it would be cool to see TXST, UNT, UTSA, RICE, UTEP, NMSU, ULM, Louisiana, La Tech, and Arkansas State be the new Sun Belt. Makes too much sense for it to happen though.

It would be cool and makes sense, but UNT didn’t pay money to leave ULM, LaLa and Arkansas St to re-join them a few years later. I think ACU, UTEP, and NMSU being in the same conference isn’t a bad idea, doesn’t mean UTEP would leave CUSA to join the WAC like David suggests.

(11-14-2020 09:56 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(11-14-2020 02:45 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 11:40 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 10:59 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There is talks keep coming up about conference USA to split up. Could the WAC grab those teams?

New Mexico State
UTEP
Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Lamar
Sam Houston State
SFAU
Abilene Christian

Would make 9 FBS teams.

West Texas A&M
Dixie State
Southern Utah
Tarleton State
Colorado Mesa

Could spend time in FCS until they can build up their stadiums.
Could Chicago State go to the Horizon?
Seattle U. and California Baptist to the Big West?

Utah Valley, Grand Canyon and UTRGV could be non-football schools unless they move to the Big West as well?

I picked Colorado Mesa because they do have the sports in place and in a much better position to move to D1 then CSU-Pueblo.

I would try and recruit Northern Arizona and Central Oklahoma to the conference. If Southern Utah do not budge? I would go after larger D2 schools in the footprint.

I don’t know why I bother sometimes. UNT, UTSA, Rice, and UTEP aren’t leaving CUSA to join with NMSU and Sam Houston.

UTRGV to the Big West? Are you slow? I will personally send you $20,000 and get a tattoo of your post if UTRGV joins the Big West.

Agreed. Probably not happening. But I wouldnt mind seeing cusa and the Sun Belt reorganizing into eastern and central based conferences like what was discussed ad naseum back when Covid first hit.

I think it would be cool to see TXST, UNT, UTSA, RICE, UTEP, NMSU, ULM, Louisiana, La Tech, and Arkansas State be the new Sun Belt. Makes too much sense for it to happen though.

It would be cool and makes sense, but UNT didn’t pay money to leave ULM, LaLa and Arkansas St to re-join them a few years later. I think ACU, UTEP, and NMSU being in the same conference isn’t a bad idea, doesn’t mean UTEP would leave CUSA to join the WAC like David suggests.

Yea. I understand that. I feel similarly ople mention Sam Houston or SFA joining us in a conference again. And La Tech would NEVER be in the same conference as ULM. They sat out on a bowl in 2012 because they wouldve been matched up against ULM. They thought a "better" bowl would invite them but they got left out. Twas a shame because that was a great La Tech team.

THREAD RECAP:

We Don't Have A ******* Clue Who Is Joining, But...

(11-15-2020 11:20 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(11-14-2020 09:56 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(11-14-2020 02:45 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 11:40 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 10:59 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There is talks keep coming up about conference USA to split up. Could the WAC grab those teams?

New Mexico State
UTEP
Rice
North Texas
UTSA
Lamar
Sam Houston State
SFAU
Abilene Christian

Would make 9 FBS teams.

West Texas A&M
Dixie State
Southern Utah
Tarleton State
Colorado Mesa

Could spend time in FCS until they can build up their stadiums.
Could Chicago State go to the Horizon?
Seattle U. and California Baptist to the Big West?

Utah Valley, Grand Canyon and UTRGV could be non-football schools unless they move to the Big West as well?

I picked Colorado Mesa because they do have the sports in place and in a much better position to move to D1 then CSU-Pueblo.

I would try and recruit Northern Arizona and Central Oklahoma to the conference. If Southern Utah do not budge? I would go after larger D2 schools in the footprint.

I don’t know why I bother sometimes. UNT, UTSA, Rice, and UTEP aren’t leaving CUSA to join with NMSU and Sam Houston.

UTRGV to the Big West? Are you slow? I will personally send you $20,000 and get a tattoo of your post if UTRGV joins the Big West.

Agreed. Probably not happening. But I wouldnt mind seeing cusa and the Sun Belt reorganizing into eastern and central based conferences like what was discussed ad naseum back when Covid first hit.

I think it would be cool to see TXST, UNT, UTSA, RICE, UTEP, NMSU, ULM, Louisiana, La Tech, and Arkansas State be the new Sun Belt. Makes too much sense for it to happen though.

It would be cool and makes sense, but UNT didn’t pay money to leave ULM, LaLa and Arkansas St to re-join them a few years later. I think ACU, UTEP, and NMSU being in the same conference isn’t a bad idea, doesn’t mean UTEP would leave CUSA to join the WAC like David suggests.

Yea. I understand that. I feel similarly ople mention Sam Houston or SFA joining us in a conference again. And La Tech would NEVER be in the same conference as ULM. They sat out on a bowl in 2012 because they wouldve been matched up against ULM. They thought a "better" bowl would invite them but they got left out. Twas a shame because that was a great La Tech team.

The reason I have the 4 Texas schools joining because of WAC is the only one who have an auto bid to championships without starting a new conference. WAC can still sponsor FBS. The Texas schools, Central Oklahoma and Dixie State raised money to upgrade their facilities.

For the first few years.
New Mexico State
UTSA
North Texas
Rice
UTEP
Lamar
Sam Houston State
SFAU

Could actually play an FBS schedule.
A year or two down the road, West Texas A&M can join FBS quicker than the other schools right now.

UTRGV and Tarleton State can be affiliates in football in the Southland until they can find new members.

Abilene Christian could join FBS WAC like 4 or 5 years down along with Tarleton State, Dixie State and Southern Utah. Central Oklahoma is not that far from 15,000 seat stadium. They are at 10,000. Colorado Mesa is at 8,500 and they could expand the stadium. Just depends who can get to FBS quicker.

(11-15-2020 05:18 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  THREAD RECAP:

We Don't Have A ******* Clue Who Is Joining, But...

Excellent summary for 38 pages worth of nonsense.