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(11-13-2020 02:58 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 02:47 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 02:40 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 11:52 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  LMFAO Tuberville not knowing the three branches of government, not knowing why WW2 was fought and thinking Al Gore was "president-elect" for 30 days. I know everything is partisanship now but can't all Bearcat fans keep laughing at what a bozo Tuberville is (even if you're happy he won because it's one less D in the senate).

I bet the Squad is a hell of a lot worse.

The squad isn't relevant to Bearcat fans getting to continue ripping on a disastrous former Bearcat football coach without fear of it being considered political.

Neither is Tubs knowledge about what you posted. Lots of media declared Gore the winner until the Florida recount was finished. Did Tubs flub an question about the 3 branches of government? BTW why do you think WW2 was fought?

That's just objectively wrong.

Teeing it up at Congressional Country Club for the next 6 years on the taxpayer dime. What a country.

(11-13-2020 03:38 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 03:12 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 03:08 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  I blame Whit Babcock for Tubs. Remember he didn't even have a sit down interview. I blame the guy that basically gave a multi million dollar contract because of name recognition than I do coach accepting the position.

Note: I was a fan of the Tubs hire. Still like him more than Butch TBH . Obviously it didn't end well at all lol. Who cares what he's doing now. He'll vote party line as already mentioned and most who voted for him I'm sure knew he wasn't going to be doing anything of significant importance besides have a vote in the senate.

My applauding the Tubs hire was my all time worst take on anything.

Lots of us were right there with you, though some would probably deny it now. It was a bold stroke in the college football world for a program that had always hired up and comers and was losing the lofty BCS 6 platform as the Big East disintegrated.

Truly, the two best days for Bearcat football were the day he arrived and the day he left.

I recall being pretty happy with the hire. I was a bit concerned by the story of him leaving the recruits at the restaurant to take the job though. Was hoping it was a misunderstanding or hearsay at the time, but in hindsight, it was a sign of things to come.

(11-13-2020 04:24 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 02:58 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 02:47 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 02:40 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 11:52 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  LMFAO Tuberville not knowing the three branches of government, not knowing why WW2 was fought and thinking Al Gore was "president-elect" for 30 days. I know everything is partisanship now but can't all Bearcat fans keep laughing at what a bozo Tuberville is (even if you're happy he won because it's one less D in the senate).

I bet the Squad is a hell of a lot worse.

The squad isn't relevant to Bearcat fans getting to continue ripping on a disastrous former Bearcat football coach without fear of it being considered political.

Neither is Tubs knowledge about what you posted. Lots of media declared Gore the winner until the Florida recount was finished. Did Tubs flub an question about the 3 branches of government? BTW why do you think WW2 was fought?

That's just objectively wrong.

NBC had been first to declare a winner in Florida on Tuesday, saying Al Gore won at 7:50 p.m EST. Its rivals quickly followed suit, basing their information largely on polling data provided by Voter News Service, a consortium created by The Associated Press, ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox and NBC.

By David Bauder
AP Television Writer
Wednesday, Nov. 8, 2000; 6:39 p.m. EST
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/ap...22_000.htm

I think we all loved the Tuberville hire. He was successful at Auburn and hadn't been at Tech long enough to realize he was already in coast mode. In retrospect even if Whit had interviewed him he would have said the right things and we would have hired him.

Looking back I think his interest here was simply to reset the clock on people realizing he was in retirement mode. Never visiting great producing high schools within 20 minutes is emblematic of how much he had given up. People like to cite some of the talent that helped us the last couple years but never forget we won 4 games in Ficks first year and just as easily could have won only 1. You couldn't have done less work in 4 years aside from not showing up at the games.

As long as he's the Republican nominee I'll hope he wins general elections but I certainly hope someone who actually gives a crap primary challenges him in 6 years.

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(11-13-2020 04:58 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 04:24 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 02:58 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 02:47 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 02:40 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  I bet the Squad is a hell of a lot worse.

The squad isn't relevant to Bearcat fans getting to continue ripping on a disastrous former Bearcat football coach without fear of it being considered political.

Neither is Tubs knowledge about what you posted. Lots of media declared Gore the winner until the Florida recount was finished. Did Tubs flub an question about the 3 branches of government? BTW why do you think WW2 was fought?

That's just objectively wrong.

NBC had been first to declare a winner in Florida on Tuesday, saying Al Gore won at 7:50 p.m EST. Its rivals quickly followed suit, basing their information largely on polling data provided by Voter News Service, a consortium created by The Associated Press, ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox and NBC.

By David Bauder
AP Television Writer
Wednesday, Nov. 8, 2000; 6:39 p.m. EST
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/ap...22_000.htm

Again, your statement is objectively false. They said Gore won Florida for two hours, retracted it and then said Bush had taken Florida and then eventually retracted it again. No one declared Gore the winner until the recount was complete (which is the statement you made above). It just didn't happen. And in fact there were far more news outlets that declared Bush the winner over Gore. https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm...story.html

All that aside, to draw an equivalency between the two elections is a fool's errand. 2000 came down to a margin of 700 votes. This current election has a margin in the thousands to tens of thousands in each state Trump would need to flip. I'm all for recounts. I'm all for legal challenges. Have at it. It won't change a thing.

(11-13-2020 05:12 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 04:58 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 04:24 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 02:58 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 02:47 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  The squad isn't relevant to Bearcat fans getting to continue ripping on a disastrous former Bearcat football coach without fear of it being considered political.

Neither is Tubs knowledge about what you posted. Lots of media declared Gore the winner until the Florida recount was finished. Did Tubs flub an question about the 3 branches of government? BTW why do you think WW2 was fought?

That's just objectively wrong.

NBC had been first to declare a winner in Florida on Tuesday, saying Al Gore won at 7:50 p.m EST. Its rivals quickly followed suit, basing their information largely on polling data provided by Voter News Service, a consortium created by The Associated Press, ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox and NBC.

By David Bauder
AP Television Writer
Wednesday, Nov. 8, 2000; 6:39 p.m. EST
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/ap...22_000.htm

Again, your statement is objectively false. They said Gore won Florida for two hours, retracted it and then said Bush had taken Florida and then eventually retracted it again. No one declared Gore the winner until the recount was complete (which is the statement you made above). It just didn't happen. And in fact there were far more news outlets that declared Bush the winner over Gore. https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm...story.html

All that aside, to draw an equivalency between the two elections is a fool's errand. 2000 came down to a margin of 700 votes. This current election has a margin in the thousands to tens of thousands in each state Trump would need to flip. I'm all for recounts. I'm all for legal challenges. Have at it. It won't change a thing.

OK.

(11-13-2020 05:16 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 05:12 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 04:58 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 04:24 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 02:58 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Neither is Tubs knowledge about what you posted. Lots of media declared Gore the winner until the Florida recount was finished. Did Tubs flub an question about the 3 branches of government? BTW why do you think WW2 was fought?

That's just objectively wrong.

NBC had been first to declare a winner in Florida on Tuesday, saying Al Gore won at 7:50 p.m EST. Its rivals quickly followed suit, basing their information largely on polling data provided by Voter News Service, a consortium created by The Associated Press, ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox and NBC.

By David Bauder
AP Television Writer
Wednesday, Nov. 8, 2000; 6:39 p.m. EST
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/ap...22_000.htm

Again, your statement is objectively false. They said Gore won Florida for two hours, retracted it and then said Bush had taken Florida and then eventually retracted it again. No one declared Gore the winner until the recount was complete (which is the statement you made above). It just didn't happen. And in fact there were far more news outlets that declared Bush the winner over Gore. https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm...story.html

All that aside, to draw an equivalency between the two elections is a fool's errand. 2000 came down to a margin of 700 votes. This current election has a margin in the thousands to tens of thousands in each state Trump would need to flip. I'm all for recounts. I'm all for legal challenges. Have at it. It won't change a thing.

OK.

He’s right.

It would take a reversal of epic proportions to reverse the results, the likes of which we have never seen.

Members of both parties have stated that no fraud has taken place.

(11-13-2020 11:37 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 05:16 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 05:12 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 04:58 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 04:24 PM)MickMack Wrote:  That's just objectively wrong.

NBC had been first to declare a winner in Florida on Tuesday, saying Al Gore won at 7:50 p.m EST. Its rivals quickly followed suit, basing their information largely on polling data provided by Voter News Service, a consortium created by The Associated Press, ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox and NBC.

By David Bauder
AP Television Writer
Wednesday, Nov. 8, 2000; 6:39 p.m. EST
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/ap...22_000.htm

Again, your statement is objectively false. They said Gore won Florida for two hours, retracted it and then said Bush had taken Florida and then eventually retracted it again. No one declared Gore the winner until the recount was complete (which is the statement you made above). It just didn't happen. And in fact there were far more news outlets that declared Bush the winner over Gore. https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm...story.html

All that aside, to draw an equivalency between the two elections is a fool's errand. 2000 came down to a margin of 700 votes. This current election has a margin in the thousands to tens of thousands in each state Trump would need to flip. I'm all for recounts. I'm all for legal challenges. Have at it. It won't change a thing.

OK.

He’s right.

It would take a reversal of epic proportions to reverse the results, the likes of which we have never seen.

Members of both parties have stated that no fraud has taken place.

Fraud occurs in every election.

(11-14-2020 08:37 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Fraud occurs in every election.

Yep, seen obvious examples from both sides in this one.

A Pennsylvania judge found so much organized fraud in a state senate election that he nullified the results and declared the "loser" to be the "winner". I am sure appeals will be coming next.

(11-14-2020 08:55 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  

(11-14-2020 08:37 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Fraud occurs in every election.

Yep, seen obvious examples from both sides in this one.

A Pennsylvania judge found so much organized fraud in a state senate election that he nullified the results and declared the "loser" to be the "winner". I am sure appeals will be coming next.

Speaking of PA, this year a Judge and former Congressman from Philly were both convicted of election fraud charges.

(11-13-2020 02:58 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 02:47 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 02:40 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-13-2020 11:52 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  LMFAO Tuberville not knowing the three branches of government, not knowing why WW2 was fought and thinking Al Gore was "president-elect" for 30 days. I know everything is partisanship now but can't all Bearcat fans keep laughing at what a bozo Tuberville is (even if you're happy he won because it's one less D in the senate).

I bet the Squad is a hell of a lot worse.

The squad isn't relevant to Bearcat fans getting to continue ripping on a disastrous former Bearcat football coach without fear of it being considered political.

Neither is Tubs knowledge about what you posted. Lots of media declared Gore the winner until the Florida recount was finished. Did Tubs flub an question about the 3 branches of government? BTW why do you think WW2 was fought?

WW2 was fought to free the slaves. Everybody knows that.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020...-politics/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TVb-Yb_NUy8

If someone wants to cheer for Tubbs in the Senate because he has their chosen letter next to his name, great. Don't, however, pretend that the guy isn't stupid, incompetent and in way over his head.....just like he was here.

(11-14-2020 10:12 AM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  If someone wants to cheer for Tubbs in the Senate because he has their chosen letter next to his name, great. Don't, however, pretend that the guy isn't stupid, incompetent and in way over his head.....just like he was here.

I disagree. He proved early in his career he was intelligent as far as football coaching.

I believe at UC he was just indifferent. And probably deserves to be shot for what he did to our program.

(11-14-2020 10:39 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  

(11-14-2020 10:12 AM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  If someone wants to cheer for Tubbs in the Senate because he has their chosen letter next to his name, great. Don't, however, pretend that the guy isn't stupid, incompetent and in way over his head.....just like he was here.

I disagree. He proved early in his career he was intelligent as far as football coaching.

I believe at UC he was just indifferent. And probably deserves to be shot for what he did to our program.

That's definitely a better description. He didn't forget how to do it, he no longer cared enough to put any effort.

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I feel like I have to add the obligatory:
"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

(11-14-2020 10:55 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I feel like I have to add the obligatory:
"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

Old Pine Box hasn’t shown that level of energy in over two decades.

Great quote on College Gameday:

"Show me a coach who is a great golfer, and I will show you a lousy coach."

He always seemed like somewhat of a jack-ass to me while he was here. I'm sure he'll fit right in.