(10-13-2020 04:14 PM)gleadley Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 04:10 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:39 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:19 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  So let me get this straight. All of a sudden the BW is starting up football again...just because SUU might be coming to the WAC. The UC/CalSt thing really doesn't matter at all even though the BW begrudgingly took Bako to keep the parity.

The WAC "plan":
- only picking FB schools from Texas and BSC but are looking at other schools as well
- only offering full membership but also offering associate memberships
- only looking at FCS but are also looking at FBS

David Street named every school in the country so he will be correct on something. He even threw in Colorado Mesa for good measure, even though they explicitly and publicly turned down the WAC invite just a mere 2 years ago.

These threads are ridiculous and as they go on, people start believing them and talking about theories as though they are fact. And who is Matt Brown anyways? What makes him an authoritative source and/or correct? If nothing comes to pass he will just be a David Street wannabe.

Maybe Matt Brown is pen name of the Tarleton president. He made the announcement as if it were imminent and its approaching 2 weeks. Either he is just another Texas wind bag or he is so far off on his timing that its becoming questionable whether it is indeed a done deal or not.

All I was pointing out is "if" the WAC had moved forward on a FCS Conference a few years earlier, then the Big West could have substituted Cal State Bakersfield for Sacramento State when adding UC San Diego... because Sacramento State would have had the option to house its football program in the WAC without repercussion from the Big Sky. Then jdgaucho threw in his scenario on a contrived Big West football conference. Fact, the WAC added two football-playing schools who's programs need FCS homes. Fact, there is a rumor that the WAC has made contact with Southern Utah to join the conference; which plays FCS football. Fact, there is a rumor that the WAC has contacted Southland conference schools. Currently., there is nothing about the Big West starting up a football conference; so no point in debating. "If" the WAC does successfully start a FCS football conference, it is not unrealistic to think that the WAC will contact the football playing schools in California; to see if any are interested in being associate or full members.

And that, my friends, is where we go astray.

Every.
Single.
Time.

It may be factual that there are rumors, but if the rumors aren't fact then what are we doing here and why isn't it happening on the realignment board instead?

Yes, but these rumors are getting media play at Southern Utah, Weber State, and Montana with news articles and podcasts. Also, they were substantiated by the Tarleton State Prez's comments. He did not specify SUU; it could as easily be a SLC school he is talking about. Matt Brown's tweets is the impetus of both rumors. It is not just idle banter on a alignment thread like here.

The "Big West" and "college football" should never be uttered in the same sentence unless it's a historical reference. The BW will never sponsor FB ever again, and there are no current members of the BW that will ever add FB. That ship has long sailed, and this latest China Virus development pretty much guarantees the financials will never be there for any non-FB BW school.

(10-13-2020 02:19 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  So let me get this straight. All of a sudden the BW is starting up football again...just because SUU might be coming to the WAC. The UC/CalSt thing really doesn't matter at all even though the BW begrudgingly took Bako to keep the parity.

The WAC "plan":
- only picking FB schools from Texas and BSC but are looking at other schools as well
- only offering full membership but also offering associate memberships
- only looking at FCS but are also looking at FBS
- drop ChiSt

David Street named every school in the country so he will be correct on something. He even threw in Colorado Mesa for good measure, even though they explicitly and publicly turned down the WAC invite just a mere 2 years ago.

These threads are ridiculous and as they go on, people start believing them and talking about theories as though they are fact. And who is Matt Brown anyways? What makes him an authoritative source and/or correct? If nothing comes to pass he will just be a David Street wannabe.

In the podcast for Weber State, Matt Brown said that there seems to be talks between the WAC and several RMAC football Colorado schools. Getting one of them could bring Northern Colorado on board. Colorado Mesa do offer most of the sports offered in the WAC includes the most important one, baseball. The target footprint is schools from Big Sky, Southland and D2 in Arizona, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and Texas and he threw in California schools like U. of San Diego, UC-San Diego and the three Big Sky football schools. I would not rule out Azusa Pacific that could draw U. of San Diego in as football only.

(10-13-2020 04:10 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:39 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:19 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  So let me get this straight. All of a sudden the BW is starting up football again...just because SUU might be coming to the WAC. The UC/CalSt thing really doesn't matter at all even though the BW begrudgingly took Bako to keep the parity.

The WAC "plan":
- only picking FB schools from Texas and BSC but are looking at other schools as well
- only offering full membership but also offering associate memberships
- only looking at FCS but are also looking at FBS

David Street named every school in the country so he will be correct on something. He even threw in Colorado Mesa for good measure, even though they explicitly and publicly turned down the WAC invite just a mere 2 years ago.

These threads are ridiculous and as they go on, people start believing them and talking about theories as though they are fact. And who is Matt Brown anyways? What makes him an authoritative source and/or correct? If nothing comes to pass he will just be a David Street wannabe.

Maybe Matt Brown is pen name of the Tarleton president. He made the announcement as if it were imminent and its approaching 2 weeks. Either he is just another Texas wind bag or he is so far off on his timing that its becoming questionable whether it is indeed a done deal or not.

All I was pointing out is "if" the WAC had moved forward on a FCS Conference a few years earlier, then the Big West could have substituted Cal State Bakersfield for Sacramento State when adding UC San Diego... because Sacramento State would have had the option to house its football program in the WAC without repercussion from the Big Sky. Then jdgaucho threw in his scenario on a contrived Big West football conference. Fact, the WAC added two football-playing schools who's programs need FCS homes. Fact, there is a rumor that the WAC has made contact with Southern Utah to join the conference; which plays FCS football. Fact, there is a rumor that the WAC has contacted Southland conference schools. Currently., there is nothing about the Big West starting up a football conference; so no point in debating. "If" the WAC does successfully start a FCS football conference, it is not unrealistic to think that the WAC will contact the football playing schools in California; to see if any are interested in being associate or full members.

Matt Brown in the podcast mentioned D2 schools that are in contact with the WAC from Lone Star Conference (West Texas A&M comes to mind), RMAC schools that play football and a school in South Dakota. I think there are legs with Augustana trying hard to get into D1.

(10-13-2020 05:09 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:19 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  So let me get this straight. All of a sudden the BW is starting up football again...just because SUU might be coming to the WAC. The UC/CalSt thing really doesn't matter at all even though the BW begrudgingly took Bako to keep the parity.

The WAC "plan":
- only picking FB schools from Texas and BSC but are looking at other schools as well
- only offering full membership but also offering associate memberships
- only looking at FCS but are also looking at FBS
- drop ChiSt

David Street named every school in the country so he will be correct on something. He even threw in Colorado Mesa for good measure, even though they explicitly and publicly turned down the WAC invite just a mere 2 years ago.

These threads are ridiculous and as they go on, people start believing them and talking about theories as though they are fact. And who is Matt Brown anyways? What makes him an authoritative source and/or correct? If nothing comes to pass he will just be a David Street wannabe.

In the podcast for Weber State, Matt Brown said that there seems to be talks between the WAC and several RMAC football Colorado schools. Getting one of them could bring Northern Colorado on board. Colorado Mesa do offer most of the sports offered in the WAC includes the most important one, baseball. The target footprint is schools from Big Sky, Southland and D2 in Arizona, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and Texas and he threw in California schools like U. of San Diego, UC-San Diego and the three Big Sky football schools. I would not rule out Azusa Pacific that could draw U. of San Diego in as football only.

D2 in Arizona and Utah, huh?

(10-13-2020 07:28 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 05:09 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:19 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  So let me get this straight. All of a sudden the BW is starting up football again...just because SUU might be coming to the WAC. The UC/CalSt thing really doesn't matter at all even though the BW begrudgingly took Bako to keep the parity.

The WAC "plan":
- only picking FB schools from Texas and BSC but are looking at other schools as well
- only offering full membership but also offering associate memberships
- only looking at FCS but are also looking at FBS
- drop ChiSt

David Street named every school in the country so he will be correct on something. He even threw in Colorado Mesa for good measure, even though they explicitly and publicly turned down the WAC invite just a mere 2 years ago.

These threads are ridiculous and as they go on, people start believing them and talking about theories as though they are fact. And who is Matt Brown anyways? What makes him an authoritative source and/or correct? If nothing comes to pass he will just be a David Street wannabe.

In the podcast for Weber State, Matt Brown said that there seems to be talks between the WAC and several RMAC football Colorado schools. Getting one of them could bring Northern Colorado on board. Colorado Mesa do offer most of the sports offered in the WAC includes the most important one, baseball. The target footprint is schools from Big Sky, Southland and D2 in Arizona, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and Texas and he threw in California schools like U. of San Diego, UC-San Diego and the three Big Sky football schools. I would not rule out Azusa Pacific that could draw U. of San Diego in as football only.

D2 in Arizona and Utah, huh?

NAIA maybe? Ottawa and Arizona Christian? That seems... ambitious

(10-13-2020 02:39 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:19 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  So let me get this straight. All of a sudden the BW is starting up football again...just because SUU might be coming to the WAC. The UC/CalSt thing really doesn't matter at all even though the BW begrudgingly took Bako to keep the parity.

The WAC "plan":
- only picking FB schools from Texas and BSC but are looking at other schools as well
- only offering full membership but also offering associate memberships
- only looking at FCS but are also looking at FBS

David Street named every school in the country so he will be correct on something. He even threw in Colorado Mesa for good measure, even though they explicitly and publicly turned down the WAC invite just a mere 2 years ago.

These threads are ridiculous and as they go on, people start believing them and talking about theories as though they are fact. And who is Matt Brown anyways? What makes him an authoritative source and/or correct? If nothing comes to pass he will just be a David Street wannabe.

Maybe Matt Brown is pen name of the Tarleton president. He made the announcement as if it were imminent and its approaching 2 weeks. Either he is just another Texas wind bag or he is so far off on his timing that its becoming questionable whether it is indeed a done deal or not.

Truth be told, he said "in the next few weeks" Whoever it is...ahem, SUU...they've already been voted in and their intentions are known to others beyond the Tarleton Prez. NMSU AD confirmed and eluded to there could "possibly" be others coming with, which is holding things up. Considering we were debating whether or not the WAC even had a pulse just a few weeks ago, I think its worth the wait.
What is a "Texas wind bag", anyway?

(10-13-2020 07:37 PM)Johnny Crunch Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 07:28 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 05:09 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:19 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  So let me get this straight. All of a sudden the BW is starting up football again...just because SUU might be coming to the WAC. The UC/CalSt thing really doesn't matter at all even though the BW begrudgingly took Bako to keep the parity.

The WAC "plan":
- only picking FB schools from Texas and BSC but are looking at other schools as well
- only offering full membership but also offering associate memberships
- only looking at FCS but are also looking at FBS
- drop ChiSt

David Street named every school in the country so he will be correct on something. He even threw in Colorado Mesa for good measure, even though they explicitly and publicly turned down the WAC invite just a mere 2 years ago.

These threads are ridiculous and as they go on, people start believing them and talking about theories as though they are fact. And who is Matt Brown anyways? What makes him an authoritative source and/or correct? If nothing comes to pass he will just be a David Street wannabe.

In the podcast for Weber State, Matt Brown said that there seems to be talks between the WAC and several RMAC football Colorado schools. Getting one of them could bring Northern Colorado on board. Colorado Mesa do offer most of the sports offered in the WAC includes the most important one, baseball. The target footprint is schools from Big Sky, Southland and D2 in Arizona, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and Texas and he threw in California schools like U. of San Diego, UC-San Diego and the three Big Sky football schools. I would not rule out Azusa Pacific that could draw U. of San Diego in as football only.

D2 in Arizona and Utah, huh?

NAIA maybe? Ottawa and Arizona Christian? That seems... ambitious

I was kidding. No such thing as D2 football in AZ or UT.

(10-13-2020 07:47 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:39 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:19 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  So let me get this straight. All of a sudden the BW is starting up football again...just because SUU might be coming to the WAC. The UC/CalSt thing really doesn't matter at all even though the BW begrudgingly took Bako to keep the parity.

The WAC "plan":
- only picking FB schools from Texas and BSC but are looking at other schools as well
- only offering full membership but also offering associate memberships
- only looking at FCS but are also looking at FBS

David Street named every school in the country so he will be correct on something. He even threw in Colorado Mesa for good measure, even though they explicitly and publicly turned down the WAC invite just a mere 2 years ago.

These threads are ridiculous and as they go on, people start believing them and talking about theories as though they are fact. And who is Matt Brown anyways? What makes him an authoritative source and/or correct? If nothing comes to pass he will just be a David Street wannabe.

Maybe Matt Brown is pen name of the Tarleton president. He made the announcement as if it were imminent and its approaching 2 weeks. Either he is just another Texas wind bag or he is so far off on his timing that its becoming questionable whether it is indeed a done deal or not.

What is a "Texas wind bag", anyway?

That bag of monopoly money that comes from owning a wind farm. You can really get a good whiff of it when your drive through Lubbock...

(10-13-2020 08:05 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 07:47 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:39 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:19 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  So let me get this straight. All of a sudden the BW is starting up football again...just because SUU might be coming to the WAC. The UC/CalSt thing really doesn't matter at all even though the BW begrudgingly took Bako to keep the parity.

The WAC "plan":
- only picking FB schools from Texas and BSC but are looking at other schools as well
- only offering full membership but also offering associate memberships
- only looking at FCS but are also looking at FBS

David Street named every school in the country so he will be correct on something. He even threw in Colorado Mesa for good measure, even though they explicitly and publicly turned down the WAC invite just a mere 2 years ago.

These threads are ridiculous and as they go on, people start believing them and talking about theories as though they are fact. And who is Matt Brown anyways? What makes him an authoritative source and/or correct? If nothing comes to pass he will just be a David Street wannabe.

Maybe Matt Brown is pen name of the Tarleton president. He made the announcement as if it were imminent and its approaching 2 weeks. Either he is just another Texas wind bag or he is so far off on his timing that its becoming questionable whether it is indeed a done deal or not.

What is a "Texas wind bag", anyway?

That bag of monopoly money that comes from owning a wind farm. You can really get a good whiff of it when your drive through Lubbock...

I thought it was oil or ranch money.

(10-13-2020 07:49 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 07:37 PM)Johnny Crunch Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 07:28 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 05:09 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:19 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  So let me get this straight. All of a sudden the BW is starting up football again...just because SUU might be coming to the WAC. The UC/CalSt thing really doesn't matter at all even though the BW begrudgingly took Bako to keep the parity.

The WAC "plan":
- only picking FB schools from Texas and BSC but are looking at other schools as well
- only offering full membership but also offering associate memberships
- only looking at FCS but are also looking at FBS
- drop ChiSt

David Street named every school in the country so he will be correct on something. He even threw in Colorado Mesa for good measure, even though they explicitly and publicly turned down the WAC invite just a mere 2 years ago.

These threads are ridiculous and as they go on, people start believing them and talking about theories as though they are fact. And who is Matt Brown anyways? What makes him an authoritative source and/or correct? If nothing comes to pass he will just be a David Street wannabe.

In the podcast for Weber State, Matt Brown said that there seems to be talks between the WAC and several RMAC football Colorado schools. Getting one of them could bring Northern Colorado on board. Colorado Mesa do offer most of the sports offered in the WAC includes the most important one, baseball. The target footprint is schools from Big Sky, Southland and D2 in Arizona, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and Texas and he threw in California schools like U. of San Diego, UC-San Diego and the three Big Sky football schools. I would not rule out Azusa Pacific that could draw U. of San Diego in as football only.

D2 in Arizona and Utah, huh?

NAIA maybe? Ottawa and Arizona Christian? That seems... ambitious

I was kidding. No such thing as D2 football in AZ or UT.

The hint was SUU and Northern Arizona as part of the footprint to be the football teams in the WAC.
As the West Texas A&M's AD said last month, the large D2 schools are not happy with the D2 leadership, and you will see a lot of them start moving up to D1.

(10-13-2020 07:47 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:39 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:19 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  So let me get this straight. All of a sudden the BW is starting up football again...just because SUU might be coming to the WAC. The UC/CalSt thing really doesn't matter at all even though the BW begrudgingly took Bako to keep the parity.

The WAC "plan":
- only picking FB schools from Texas and BSC but are looking at other schools as well
- only offering full membership but also offering associate memberships
- only looking at FCS but are also looking at FBS

David Street named every school in the country so he will be correct on something. He even threw in Colorado Mesa for good measure, even though they explicitly and publicly turned down the WAC invite just a mere 2 years ago.

These threads are ridiculous and as they go on, people start believing them and talking about theories as though they are fact. And who is Matt Brown anyways? What makes him an authoritative source and/or correct? If nothing comes to pass he will just be a David Street wannabe.

Maybe Matt Brown is pen name of the Tarleton president. He made the announcement as if it were imminent and its approaching 2 weeks. Either he is just another Texas wind bag or he is so far off on his timing that its becoming questionable whether it is indeed a done deal or not.

Truth be told, he said "in the next few weeks" Whoever it is...ahem, SUU...they've already been voted in and their intentions are known to others beyond the Tarleton Prez. NMSU AD confirmed and eluded to there could "possibly" be others coming with, which is holding things up. Considering we were debating whether or not the WAC even had a pulse just a few weeks ago, I think its worth the wait.
What is a "Texas wind bag", anyway?

A "Texas wind bag" is essentially a douchebag, jackwagon, etc.

(10-13-2020 08:50 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 07:49 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 07:37 PM)Johnny Crunch Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 07:28 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 05:09 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  In the podcast for Weber State, Matt Brown said that there seems to be talks between the WAC and several RMAC football Colorado schools. Getting one of them could bring Northern Colorado on board. Colorado Mesa do offer most of the sports offered in the WAC includes the most important one, baseball. The target footprint is schools from Big Sky, Southland and D2 in Arizona, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and Texas and he threw in California schools like U. of San Diego, UC-San Diego and the three Big Sky football schools. I would not rule out Azusa Pacific that could draw U. of San Diego in as football only.

D2 in Arizona and Utah, huh?

NAIA maybe? Ottawa and Arizona Christian? That seems... ambitious

I was kidding. No such thing as D2 football in AZ or UT.

The hint was SUU and Northern Arizona as part of the footprint to be the football teams in the WAC.
As the West Texas A&M's AD said last month, the large D2 schools are not happy with the D2 leadership, and you will see a lot of them start moving up to D1.

How many is “a lot” and when will this “start”?

(10-13-2020 11:02 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 07:47 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:39 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 02:19 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  So let me get this straight. All of a sudden the BW is starting up football again...just because SUU might be coming to the WAC. The UC/CalSt thing really doesn't matter at all even though the BW begrudgingly took Bako to keep the parity.

The WAC "plan":
- only picking FB schools from Texas and BSC but are looking at other schools as well
- only offering full membership but also offering associate memberships
- only looking at FCS but are also looking at FBS

David Street named every school in the country so he will be correct on something. He even threw in Colorado Mesa for good measure, even though they explicitly and publicly turned down the WAC invite just a mere 2 years ago.

These threads are ridiculous and as they go on, people start believing them and talking about theories as though they are fact. And who is Matt Brown anyways? What makes him an authoritative source and/or correct? If nothing comes to pass he will just be a David Street wannabe.

Maybe Matt Brown is pen name of the Tarleton president. He made the announcement as if it were imminent and its approaching 2 weeks. Either he is just another Texas wind bag or he is so far off on his timing that its becoming questionable whether it is indeed a done deal or not.

Truth be told, he said "in the next few weeks" Whoever it is...ahem, SUU...they've already been voted in and their intentions are known to others beyond the Tarleton Prez. NMSU AD confirmed and eluded to there could "possibly" be others coming with, which is holding things up. Considering we were debating whether or not the WAC even had a pulse just a few weeks ago, I think its worth the wait.
What is a "Texas wind bag", anyway?

A "Texas wind bag" is essentially a douchebag, jackwagon, etc.

Oh, ok. Good to know. So no relation to the infamous NM wind bag. Just checking.

I wonder if David Street is from Texas? He sure sounds like a wind bag to me...

For those that are interested, people are questioning Matt Brown and say he has predicted a lot of things in the recent past and none of them have come to pass (sounds like someone else I know). Not sure if any of this is true or not, but thought I would share anyways.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-907825-page-11.html

Sincerely,
The Great State of New Mexico Wind Bag

All wind-baggage aside...Tarleton Prez and Nmsu AD, both incredibly reliable sources, say the *winds* of change are indeed coming for the WAC. I took this Matt Brown character at face value. It was actually Mario that convinced me it is SUU, with his "the one you've seen all over the media" comment when asked which school it was.

The Tarleton State President also added fuel to the fire acknowledging the presidents had a vote on a potential new WAC member. So, we can see the smoke.

(10-14-2020 10:31 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  All wind-baggage aside...Tarleton Prez and Nmsu AD, both incredibly reliable sources, say the *winds* of change are indeed coming for the WAC. I took this Matt Brown character at face value. It was actually Mario that convinced me it is SUU, with his "the one you've seen all over the media" comment when asked which school it was.

West Texas A&M was in the news last month as well with their AD not happy and talking going to D1. He did say he was in contact with Tarleton State's AD the past few years. He said Tarleton's AD was correct about D2. SUU's AD never said anything to even get the media attention. What if it is West Texas A&M that got invited instead of SUU? You need more football schools to join before you can get a team out of another FCS conference.

Here's the definitive answer, Itenerant...

According to Merriam-Webster, wind bag is defined as "an exhaustively talkative person." Synonyms include blabber, motormouth and blowhard.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/windbag

Urban dictionary works too


A person who is ashamed to admit he/she has no knowledge about a question asked so tries to hide his/her ignorance by inanely prattling on, dancing around the obvious and useful answer; "I don't know", which would allow you to get on with your day, i.e. go find someone who knows what the hell they are talking about.