(10-03-2020 08:41 AM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 08:37 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 07:32 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 06:55 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 06:35 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  It is not any FCS schools nor a Big Sky school. Southern Utah shot down that rumor since they are happy where they are at. The WAC really offers them nothing. The Big Sky Commish already talking about inviting Dixie State in the future. SUU, Weber State, the California schools and NAU will sit still until the time is right to add Dixie State.

Thanks for setting us all straight. As usual, you have all the answers. We are talking about adding a new school and you come to tell us Dixie is leaving. They haven’t even played one WAC game and you are telling us they are out the door.

Dixie State To Big Sky Possible Thread

This is what I am talking about from another news article. With that comment from the Big Sky Commish? There is no way Southern Utah leaving for the WAC. It could be a shot in the bow as not to touch any of their members or they will take Dixie State away, and you have nothing.

The WAC commissioner is Jeff Hurd who’s worked for the conference since 1985. He witnessed the fallout from The Plan first hand and I strongly doubt he would do anything to risk a replay of that debacle. So either the new member is not SUU, or it was SUU who approached the WAC and not the other way around.

Looking at SUU’s statement through that lens, I’m not prepared to make an absolute statement that the new member couldn’t possibly be SUU but I agree it’s pretty unlikely. For now my money is still on West Texas A&M.

I'm also thinking West Texas A&M based off of the statements from a podcast. Could be a completely random school like Azusa Pacific or Colorado Mesa for all I know though.

Do you remember which podcast

(10-03-2020 11:15 AM)KingSean Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 08:41 AM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 08:37 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 07:32 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 06:55 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  Thanks for setting us all straight. As usual, you have all the answers. We are talking about adding a new school and you come to tell us Dixie is leaving. They haven’t even played one WAC game and you are telling us they are out the door.

Dixie State To Big Sky Possible Thread

This is what I am talking about from another news article. With that comment from the Big Sky Commish? There is no way Southern Utah leaving for the WAC. It could be a shot in the bow as not to touch any of their members or they will take Dixie State away, and you have nothing.

The WAC commissioner is Jeff Hurd who’s worked for the conference since 1985. He witnessed the fallout from The Plan first hand and I strongly doubt he would do anything to risk a replay of that debacle. So either the new member is not SUU, or it was SUU who approached the WAC and not the other way around.

Looking at SUU’s statement through that lens, I’m not prepared to make an absolute statement that the new member couldn’t possibly be SUU but I agree it’s pretty unlikely. For now my money is still on West Texas A&M.

I'm also thinking West Texas A&M based off of the statements from a podcast. Could be a completely random school like Azusa Pacific or Colorado Mesa for all I know though.

Do you remember which podcast

https://m.soundcloud.com/thepresspass/aug-21-20

About 31 minute mark.

(10-03-2020 11:02 AM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 10:56 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 10:42 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I've pretty much settled on this: it's either SUU or WTAMU, and eventually will be both. An SUU move to the WAC could/should entice NAU, and maybe even NOCO to come on board. And WT leaving to join Tarleton in the WAC will certainly kick off a Lone Star Conference exodus of Biblical proportion. But, why would BSC teams leave for the WAC, you ask?
It behooves the BSC to have an FCS conference in the WAC's re-evolving Southwest footprint. OOC scheduling becomes less of a hassle and the BSC becomes more manageable at 10 teams. BSC Commish may not be as oppossed to shedding a few schools as he is letting on.
And why would WTAMU leave the LSC? Well, the writing has been on the wall ever since the LSC decided to become an 18-member Heartland Conference 2.0
Powerhouse D2 programs like WTAMU (and others still in the LSC) really should not be in the same league as Eastern and Western NM, or a Oklahoma Christian College, for that matter.
When WT leaves to join Tarleton in the WAC, Commish Hurd will have Angelo, MSU, UTPB, Kingsville and Commerce beating down his door to be let in. I also believe a few Southland schools will be wanting a piece of that action, i.e. UIW and ACU, for starters.
You see, just one or two bold moves, and then all of the sudden, the WAC can be a SELECTIVE conference again, and can build an FCS/FBS league of its choosing.

Big Sky commish was talking about expanding the Big Sky. Dixie State, Cal. Poly and UC-Davis in as full members would be a start.

Where could they possibly expand? They're bloated as a conference as is. Link for that?

Yes, believe it or not, BSC Commish is on record saying he wants to expand to 14 teams, rather than retract. Just about every coach in the conference disagrees. Good read, gives insight from both perspectives:

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sp...60684.html

(10-03-2020 11:21 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 11:02 AM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 10:56 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 10:42 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I've pretty much settled on this: it's either SUU or WTAMU, and eventually will be both. An SUU move to the WAC could/should entice NAU, and maybe even NOCO to come on board. And WT leaving to join Tarleton in the WAC will certainly kick off a Lone Star Conference exodus of Biblical proportion. But, why would BSC teams leave for the WAC, you ask?
It behooves the BSC to have an FCS conference in the WAC's re-evolving Southwest footprint. OOC scheduling becomes less of a hassle and the BSC becomes more manageable at 10 teams. BSC Commish may not be as oppossed to shedding a few schools as he is letting on.
And why would WTAMU leave the LSC? Well, the writing has been on the wall ever since the LSC decided to become an 18-member Heartland Conference 2.0
Powerhouse D2 programs like WTAMU (and others still in the LSC) really should not be in the same league as Eastern and Western NM, or a Oklahoma Christian College, for that matter.
When WT leaves to join Tarleton in the WAC, Commish Hurd will have Angelo, MSU, UTPB, Kingsville and Commerce beating down his door to be let in. I also believe a few Southland schools will be wanting a piece of that action, i.e. UIW and ACU, for starters.
You see, just one or two bold moves, and then all of the sudden, the WAC can be a SELECTIVE conference again, and can build an FCS/FBS league of its choosing.

Big Sky commish was talking about expanding the Big Sky. Dixie State, Cal. Poly and UC-Davis in as full members would be a start.

Where could they possibly expand? They're bloated as a conference as is. Link for that?

Yes, believe it or not, BSC Commish is on record saying he wants to expand to 14 teams, rather than retract. Just about every coach in the conference disagrees. Good read, gives insight from both perspectives:

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sp...60684.html

He's also said they have no plans at this time.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.college-s...own/%3famp

(10-03-2020 11:25 AM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 11:21 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 11:02 AM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 10:56 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 10:42 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I've pretty much settled on this: it's either SUU or WTAMU, and eventually will be both. An SUU move to the WAC could/should entice NAU, and maybe even NOCO to come on board. And WT leaving to join Tarleton in the WAC will certainly kick off a Lone Star Conference exodus of Biblical proportion. But, why would BSC teams leave for the WAC, you ask?
It behooves the BSC to have an FCS conference in the WAC's re-evolving Southwest footprint. OOC scheduling becomes less of a hassle and the BSC becomes more manageable at 10 teams. BSC Commish may not be as oppossed to shedding a few schools as he is letting on.
And why would WTAMU leave the LSC? Well, the writing has been on the wall ever since the LSC decided to become an 18-member Heartland Conference 2.0
Powerhouse D2 programs like WTAMU (and others still in the LSC) really should not be in the same league as Eastern and Western NM, or a Oklahoma Christian College, for that matter.
When WT leaves to join Tarleton in the WAC, Commish Hurd will have Angelo, MSU, UTPB, Kingsville and Commerce beating down his door to be let in. I also believe a few Southland schools will be wanting a piece of that action, i.e. UIW and ACU, for starters.
You see, just one or two bold moves, and then all of the sudden, the WAC can be a SELECTIVE conference again, and can build an FCS/FBS league of its choosing.

Big Sky commish was talking about expanding the Big Sky. Dixie State, Cal. Poly and UC-Davis in as full members would be a start.

Where could they possibly expand? They're bloated as a conference as is. Link for that?

Yes, believe it or not, BSC Commish is on record saying he wants to expand to 14 teams, rather than retract. Just about every coach in the conference disagrees. Good read, gives insight from both perspectives:

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sp...60684.html

He's also said they have no plans at this time.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.college-s...own/%3famp

Of course he did.

(10-03-2020 11:36 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 11:25 AM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 11:21 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 11:02 AM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 10:56 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Big Sky commish was talking about expanding the Big Sky. Dixie State, Cal. Poly and UC-Davis in as full members would be a start.

Where could they possibly expand? They're bloated as a conference as is. Link for that?

Yes, believe it or not, BSC Commish is on record saying he wants to expand to 14 teams, rather than retract. Just about every coach in the conference disagrees. Good read, gives insight from both perspectives:

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sp...60684.html

He's also said they have no plans at this time.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.college-s...own/%3famp

Of course he did.

“As long as we continue to grow our product, as long as we continue to deliver good things for our schools and increase income and that type of thing, I think there’s growth there that helps keep the conference together and keeps it strong.”

Sounds like he's only interested if it benefits the conference monetarily not growth for the sake of growth. I am interested in how a 14 team football and 12 other sports conference would be a good idea. You'd set yourself back on scheduling and risk schools defecting to smaller conferences for better odds at playoffs and larger slice of the pie.

(10-03-2020 10:42 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I've pretty much settled on this: it's either SUU or WTAMU, and eventually will be both. An SUU move to the WAC could/should entice NAU, and maybe even NOCO to come on board. And WT leaving to join Tarleton in the WAC will certainly kick off a Lone Star Conference exodus of Biblical proportion. But, why would BSC teams leave for the WAC, you ask?
It behooves the BSC to have an FCS conference in the WAC's re-evolving Southwest footprint. OOC scheduling becomes less of a hassle and the BSC becomes more manageable at 10 teams. BSC Commish may not be as oppossed to shedding a few schools as he is letting on.
And why would WTAMU leave the LSC? Well, the writing has been on the wall ever since the LSC decided to become an 18-member Heartland Conference 2.0
Powerhouse D2 programs like WTAMU (and others still in the LSC) really should not be in the same league as Eastern and Western NM, or a Oklahoma Christian College, for that matter.
When WT leaves to join Tarleton in the WAC, Commish Hurd will have Angelo, MSU, UTPB, Kingsville and Commerce beating down his door to be let in. I also believe a few Southland schools will be wanting a piece of that action, i.e. UIW and ACU, for starters.
You see, just one or two bold moves, and then all of the sudden, the WAC can be a SELECTIVE conference again, and can build an FCS/FBS league of its choosing.

Excellent post.

(10-03-2020 10:42 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I've pretty much settled on this: it's either SUU or WTAMU, and eventually will be both. An SUU move to the WAC could/should entice NAU, and maybe even NOCO to come on board. And WT leaving to join Tarleton in the WAC will certainly kick off a Lone Star Conference exodus of Biblical proportion. But, why would BSC teams leave for the WAC, you ask?
It behooves the BSC to have an FCS conference in the WAC's re-evolving Southwest footprint. OOC scheduling becomes less of a hassle and the BSC becomes more manageable at 10 teams. BSC Commish may not be as oppossed to shedding a few schools as he is letting on.
And why would WTAMU leave the LSC? Well, the writing has been on the wall ever since the LSC decided to become an 18-member Heartland Conference 2.0
Powerhouse D2 programs like WTAMU (and others still in the LSC) really should not be in the same league as Eastern and Western NM, or a Oklahoma Christian College, for that matter.
When WT leaves to join Tarleton in the WAC, Commish Hurd will have Angelo, MSU, UTPB, Kingsville and Commerce beating down his door to be let in. I also believe a few Southland schools will be wanting a piece of that action, i.e. UIW and ACU, for starters.
You see, just one or two bold moves, and then all of the sudden, the WAC can be a SELECTIVE conference again, and can build an FCS/FBS league of its choosing.

Everyone's back together, plus NMSU, Dixie State and maybe a couple of others. I like it.

(10-03-2020 01:52 PM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 10:42 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I've pretty much settled on this: it's either SUU or WTAMU, and eventually will be both. An SUU move to the WAC could/should entice NAU, and maybe even NOCO to come on board. And WT leaving to join Tarleton in the WAC will certainly kick off a Lone Star Conference exodus of Biblical proportion. But, why would BSC teams leave for the WAC, you ask?
It behooves the BSC to have an FCS conference in the WAC's re-evolving Southwest footprint. OOC scheduling becomes less of a hassle and the BSC becomes more manageable at 10 teams. BSC Commish may not be as oppossed to shedding a few schools as he is letting on.
And why would WTAMU leave the LSC? Well, the writing has been on the wall ever since the LSC decided to become an 18-member Heartland Conference 2.0
Powerhouse D2 programs like WTAMU (and others still in the LSC) really should not be in the same league as Eastern and Western NM, or a Oklahoma Christian College, for that matter.
When WT leaves to join Tarleton in the WAC, Commish Hurd will have Angelo, MSU, UTPB, Kingsville and Commerce beating down his door to be let in. I also believe a few Southland schools will be wanting a piece of that action, i.e. UIW and ACU, for starters.
You see, just one or two bold moves, and then all of the sudden, the WAC can be a SELECTIVE conference again, and can build an FCS/FBS league of its choosing.

Everyone's back together, plus NMSU, Dixie State and maybe a couple of others. I like it.

So the conference becomes bloated. Texas schools start voting in a block and its a repeat to the creation of the Mountain West. I've seen this movie.

(10-03-2020 02:36 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 01:52 PM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 10:42 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I've pretty much settled on this: it's either SUU or WTAMU, and eventually will be both. An SUU move to the WAC could/should entice NAU, and maybe even NOCO to come on board. And WT leaving to join Tarleton in the WAC will certainly kick off a Lone Star Conference exodus of Biblical proportion. But, why would BSC teams leave for the WAC, you ask?
It behooves the BSC to have an FCS conference in the WAC's re-evolving Southwest footprint. OOC scheduling becomes less of a hassle and the BSC becomes more manageable at 10 teams. BSC Commish may not be as oppossed to shedding a few schools as he is letting on.
And why would WTAMU leave the LSC? Well, the writing has been on the wall ever since the LSC decided to become an 18-member Heartland Conference 2.0
Powerhouse D2 programs like WTAMU (and others still in the LSC) really should not be in the same league as Eastern and Western NM, or a Oklahoma Christian College, for that matter.
When WT leaves to join Tarleton in the WAC, Commish Hurd will have Angelo, MSU, UTPB, Kingsville and Commerce beating down his door to be let in. I also believe a few Southland schools will be wanting a piece of that action, i.e. UIW and ACU, for starters.
You see, just one or two bold moves, and then all of the sudden, the WAC can be a SELECTIVE conference again, and can build an FCS/FBS league of its choosing.

Everyone's back together, plus NMSU, Dixie State and maybe a couple of others. I like it.

So the conference becomes bloated. Texas schools start voting in a block and its a repeat to the creation of the Mountain West. I've seen this movie.

What schools would you choose?

(10-03-2020 02:48 PM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 02:36 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 01:52 PM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 10:42 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I've pretty much settled on this: it's either SUU or WTAMU, and eventually will be both. An SUU move to the WAC could/should entice NAU, and maybe even NOCO to come on board. And WT leaving to join Tarleton in the WAC will certainly kick off a Lone Star Conference exodus of Biblical proportion. But, why would BSC teams leave for the WAC, you ask?
It behooves the BSC to have an FCS conference in the WAC's re-evolving Southwest footprint. OOC scheduling becomes less of a hassle and the BSC becomes more manageable at 10 teams. BSC Commish may not be as oppossed to shedding a few schools as he is letting on.
And why would WTAMU leave the LSC? Well, the writing has been on the wall ever since the LSC decided to become an 18-member Heartland Conference 2.0
Powerhouse D2 programs like WTAMU (and others still in the LSC) really should not be in the same league as Eastern and Western NM, or a Oklahoma Christian College, for that matter.
When WT leaves to join Tarleton in the WAC, Commish Hurd will have Angelo, MSU, UTPB, Kingsville and Commerce beating down his door to be let in. I also believe a few Southland schools will be wanting a piece of that action, i.e. UIW and ACU, for starters.
You see, just one or two bold moves, and then all of the sudden, the WAC can be a SELECTIVE conference again, and can build an FCS/FBS league of its choosing.

Everyone's back together, plus NMSU, Dixie State and maybe a couple of others. I like it.

So the conference becomes bloated. Texas schools start voting in a block and its a repeat to the creation of the Mountain West. I've seen this movie.

What schools would you choose?

I'd cap the conference at 12 schools and have a separate conference for FCS football like MVC.

I can also see if all those schools were to jump to D1/FCS, after completing the move up in the WAC, I can easily see them along with UTRGV breaking off from the WAC and forming their own conference.

(10-03-2020 06:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 02:48 PM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 02:36 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 01:52 PM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 10:42 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  I've pretty much settled on this: it's either SUU or WTAMU, and eventually will be both. An SUU move to the WAC could/should entice NAU, and maybe even NOCO to come on board. And WT leaving to join Tarleton in the WAC will certainly kick off a Lone Star Conference exodus of Biblical proportion. But, why would BSC teams leave for the WAC, you ask?
It behooves the BSC to have an FCS conference in the WAC's re-evolving Southwest footprint. OOC scheduling becomes less of a hassle and the BSC becomes more manageable at 10 teams. BSC Commish may not be as oppossed to shedding a few schools as he is letting on.
And why would WTAMU leave the LSC? Well, the writing has been on the wall ever since the LSC decided to become an 18-member Heartland Conference 2.0
Powerhouse D2 programs like WTAMU (and others still in the LSC) really should not be in the same league as Eastern and Western NM, or a Oklahoma Christian College, for that matter.
When WT leaves to join Tarleton in the WAC, Commish Hurd will have Angelo, MSU, UTPB, Kingsville and Commerce beating down his door to be let in. I also believe a few Southland schools will be wanting a piece of that action, i.e. UIW and ACU, for starters.
You see, just one or two bold moves, and then all of the sudden, the WAC can be a SELECTIVE conference again, and can build an FCS/FBS league of its choosing.

Everyone's back together, plus NMSU, Dixie State and maybe a couple of others. I like it.

So the conference becomes bloated. Texas schools start voting in a block and its a repeat to the creation of the Mountain West. I've seen this movie.

What schools would you choose?

I'd cap the conference at 12 schools and have a separate conference for FCS football like MVC.

I can also see if all those schools were to jump to D1/FCS, after completing the move up in the WAC, I can easily see them along with UTRGV breaking off from the WAC and forming their own conference.

Wouldn't having membership in a pre-existing conference for everything but football negate any reasons for forming a new conference?

I think we all know the recent history of the WAC. They have survived on homeless D1 schools and D2 move-ups, with the exception of UMKC, who moved over from the Summit. There is a point where D2 schools alone are not enough. You have to find a way to attract a few D1 schools and football is the only way do to it.

For Southern Utah University to leave Big Sky football, they have to be convinced that the WAC can become a football conference. You only need six to be an FCS football conference, but you are probably better off with eight. If football works out, then it makes sense for SUU:

1. They add two bus trip games for Olympic Sports with Dixie State and UVU.
2. They can bring back baseball. They dropped baseball in 2012.
3. It is a good regional fit for them, with CBU 400 miles to the west and GCU about 435 miles to the South. These are areas they will want to recruit in as well.
4. The WAC is a better Olympic sports league, with NMSU, GCU, CBU, Seattle.

This is just my speculation. Adding D2 schools is not easy and there is a four-year transition before a school is eligible for the NCAA tournament, plus the $1.6 million application fee to the NCAA. If the WAC can get one D1 school for football, may be they get a couple of others to follow. It seems like a better way forward than as an Olympic sports league.

(10-03-2020 11:20 AM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 11:15 AM)KingSean Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 08:41 AM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 08:37 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 07:32 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Dixie State To Big Sky Possible Thread

This is what I am talking about from another news article. With that comment from the Big Sky Commish? There is no way Southern Utah leaving for the WAC. It could be a shot in the bow as not to touch any of their members or they will take Dixie State away, and you have nothing.

The WAC commissioner is Jeff Hurd who’s worked for the conference since 1985. He witnessed the fallout from The Plan first hand and I strongly doubt he would do anything to risk a replay of that debacle. So either the new member is not SUU, or it was SUU who approached the WAC and not the other way around.

Looking at SUU’s statement through that lens, I’m not prepared to make an absolute statement that the new member couldn’t possibly be SUU but I agree it’s pretty unlikely. For now my money is still on West Texas A&M.

I'm also thinking West Texas A&M based off of the statements from a podcast. Could be a completely random school like Azusa Pacific or Colorado Mesa for all I know though.

Do you remember which podcast

https://m.soundcloud.com/thepresspass/aug-21-20

About 31 minute mark.

Thank you

(10-03-2020 10:59 AM)edinburger Wrote:  

(10-03-2020 10:42 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  You see, just one or two bold moves, and then all of the sudden, the WAC can be a SELECTIVE conference again, and can build an FCS/FBS league of its choosing.

I love the Tarleton fans' attitude. Haven't even played your first WAC game and it's let's be selective conference again.

Reminds me of an Indian friend of mine. Came out of his citizenship swearing-in ceremony and immediate announced "too damn many foreigners in this country".

Now that WE'RE in, lets get selective. Ha ha.

The journalist who made the report is still sticking to it. He makes the same point many on here have— where it’s not a total denial but stating no “official” offer has been made.

I would welcome any western school to join the WAC but Southern Utah doesn't make sense to me. Why would Southern Utah want to pull its' football program out of the Big Sky to be an FCS independent in the WAC? They would lose their FCS Auto-bid. And, it's doubtful the Big Sky would allow SUU remain as a football-only member. But heck, I was baffled when UMKC left the Summit to join the WAC a few years back; only to come to their senses and return to the Summit.

(10-04-2020 11:48 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  I would welcome any western school to join the WAC but Southern Utah doesn't make sense to me. Why would Southern Utah want to pull its' football program out of the Big Sky to be an FCS independent in the WAC? They would lose their FCS Auto-bid. And, it's doubtful the Big Sky would allow SUU remain as a football-only member. But heck, I was baffled when UMKC left the Summit to join the WAC a few years back; only to come to their senses and return to the Summit.

Times were different back then. The WAC paid their exit & entrance fees. Told them they could host the conference tournament too. Markets were a driving force back then and the WAC had “better” ones. UMKC also thought they could walk in and compete in a “weaker” league.

On the surface, I too find SUU leaving the Big Sky for the WAC a bit strange. Maybe something is happening behind the scenes. I personally hope it’s true because “realignment czar” David St didn’t predict it and he obviously knows nothing. Just makes close, easy, geographical guesses and hopes they stick.

(10-04-2020 12:03 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-04-2020 11:48 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  I would welcome any western school to join the WAC but Southern Utah doesn't make sense to me. Why would Southern Utah want to pull its' football program out of the Big Sky to be an FCS independent in the WAC? They would lose their FCS Auto-bid. And, it's doubtful the Big Sky would allow SUU remain as a football-only member. But heck, I was baffled when UMKC left the Summit to join the WAC a few years back; only to come to their senses and return to the Summit.

Times were different back then. The WAC paid their exit & entrance fees. Told them they could host the conference tournament too. Markets were a driving force back then and the WAC had “better” ones. UMKC also thought they could walk in and compete in a “weaker” league.

On the surface, I too find SUU leaving the Big Sky for the WAC a bit strange. Maybe something is happening behind the scenes. I personally hope it’s true because “realignment czar” David St didn’t predict it and he obviously knows nothing. Just makes close, easy, geographical guesses and hopes they stick.

So David St, after picking every school to go every where, didn't pick this? Must say I'm surprised.