(09-26-2020 04:44 PM)Dusky Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:31 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 03:30 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 03:27 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 03:25 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Liberty 2 - 0 in CUSA East... does that put them in first place. (just kidding).

Ha! No, but they may be a better fit for that division than ODU.

At somepoint you gotta get over this and stop fantacizing. I would say you are better served by fixing issues at UNT than worrying about us.

Fantacizing... Ha! For the past few off-seasons, I've seen articles from ODU beat writers or local papers bashing C-USA. ODU doesn't seem to be in line with the thinking around C-USA. They are only C-USA program that quit on their football season. After seeing ODU's leadership openly complain about how being C-USA is costing them money, you can't really get mad when speculation happens.

I would be thrilled to switch Liberty for odu.

So would we with switching the FXU's with Appy and GaSo.

(09-26-2020 04:46 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:44 PM)Dusky Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:31 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 03:30 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 03:27 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Ha! No, but they may be a better fit for that division than ODU.

At somepoint you gotta get over this and stop fantacizing. I would say you are better served by fixing issues at UNT than worrying about us.

Fantacizing... Ha! For the past few off-seasons, I've seen articles from ODU beat writers or local papers bashing C-USA. ODU doesn't seem to be in line with the thinking around C-USA. They are only C-USA program that quit on their football season. After seeing ODU's leadership openly complain about how being C-USA is costing them money, you can't really get mad when speculation happens.

I would be thrilled to switch Liberty for odu.

So would we with switching the FXU's with Appy and GaSo.

When you actually win something you get a say, until then just go sit in the corner until 2021.

(09-26-2020 04:48 PM)Dusky Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:46 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:44 PM)Dusky Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:31 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 03:30 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  At somepoint you gotta get over this and stop fantacizing. I would say you are better served by fixing issues at UNT than worrying about us.

Fantacizing... Ha! For the past few off-seasons, I've seen articles from ODU beat writers or local papers bashing C-USA. ODU doesn't seem to be in line with the thinking around C-USA. They are only C-USA program that quit on their football season. After seeing ODU's leadership openly complain about how being C-USA is costing them money, you can't really get mad when speculation happens.

I would be thrilled to switch Liberty for odu.

So would we with switching the FXU's with Appy and GaSo.

When you actually win something you get a say, until then just go sit in the corner until 2021.

Just like you have been sitting at the corner for rest of the sports and in FB until recently

(09-26-2020 04:46 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:44 PM)Dusky Wrote:  I would be thrilled to switch Liberty for odu.

So would we with switching the FXU's with Appy and GaSo.

How about all of the above?

Ha ha, just kidding. Appy and Ga-So don’t want to be in this league.

(09-26-2020 04:53 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:46 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:44 PM)Dusky Wrote:  I would be thrilled to switch Liberty for odu.

So would we with switching the FXU's with Appy and GaSo.

How about all of the above?

Ha ha, just kidding. Appy and Ga-So don’t want to be in this league.

And honestly while i get the bitching and moaning from the AD and some of our fans i personally think ODU is in the best place for now until we make strides and start winning consistently we ain't going anywhere. We ****** up with the decision to transition to FBS with Wilder and now that we have someone with FBS level experience we are hoping thing will turn around. Again we never know when things slide in FBS and for all we know what you said might happen and all of those might come true.

I didn't expect FIU to win this game, and I think they played Liberty better than WKU did. Clearly FIU gave up way too many yards on defense, but part of that was exacerbated by penalties... FIU had 15 penalties for 127 yards, while Liberty only had 4 for 40.... Hmmm.... Those BS PI calls forced the DBs to play much more passive than they typically do, which allowed some big pickups through the air for Liberty.

Liberty is a solid football team with Willis at QB. I am excited for the potential of Norton at QB for FIU. He's a very raw prospect as a redshirt freshmen, but he showed flashes of a great arm. I wish FIU would have gotten JJ Holloman more involved in the offense, but alas... FIU will compete with anyone in C-USA East, although it seems Marshall is the clear favorite at this point (maybe FAU can give them a run). FIU has a lot of individual talent on offense, but needs to put it together with better QB play. I wish Norton would have started this game. It may have turned out differently...

(09-26-2020 02:31 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 01:27 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 01:06 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  There's absolutely NOTHING exciting about this GA Southern vs ULL game. Honestly, it looks like a glorified high school game. With 6 min left in the 3rd quarter, GA Southern has passed for a whopping 79 yds, and ULL has passed for only 143 yds. Both teams have thrown interceptions, and both QB's are horrible. GaSouthern has already rushed the ball 40 times.

Like I said....a glorified high school game. Score is tied 7-7.

Would you say the same thing about Army and Navy?

Of course, if they played like this. Why wouldn't I? Is this a trick question.

Lol, no need to get defensive. Was only asking.

Come on Panthers. I know this was just the first game and it was on the road, but still...

(09-26-2020 04:45 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:31 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 03:30 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 03:27 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 03:25 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Liberty 2 - 0 in CUSA East... does that put them in first place. (just kidding).

Ha! No, but they may be a better fit for that division than ODU.

At somepoint you gotta get over this and stop fantacizing. I would say you are better served by fixing issues at UNT than worrying about us.

Fantacizing... Ha! For the past few off-seasons, I've seen articles from ODU beat writers or local papers bashing C-USA. ODU doesn't seem to be in line with the thinking around C-USA. They are only C-USA program that quit on their football season. After seeing ODU's leadership openly complain about how being C-USA is costing them money, you can't really get mad when speculation happens.

Okay so that is where your angst is rooted in gotcha. They weren't bashing they were saying its fiscally irresponsible and they do have a point and if you don't like that its fine. Speculation happens all the time and there's no stopping it and if you want to get mad because some one is speculating then there won't be an end to that madness. As per not playing FB this season you have no clue what is happening in the 757 even i don't so may be they have a reason why they chose not to instead of appealing to someone ego's that doesn't know what they have to deal with.

Ha! For the majority of G5 programs just playing in the FBS is irresponsible. We know there will be obscene amounts of money spent without a major financial return. ODU should have known that before joining. At North Texas we view our football program as marketing for the university. In that sense it becomes a matter of increased enrollment and overall interest in our university. Turning a profit is secondary.

(09-26-2020 06:06 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:45 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:31 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 03:30 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 03:27 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Ha! No, but they may be a better fit for that division than ODU.

At somepoint you gotta get over this and stop fantacizing. I would say you are better served by fixing issues at UNT than worrying about us.

Fantacizing... Ha! For the past few off-seasons, I've seen articles from ODU beat writers or local papers bashing C-USA. ODU doesn't seem to be in line with the thinking around C-USA. They are only C-USA program that quit on their football season. After seeing ODU's leadership openly complain about how being C-USA is costing them money, you can't really get mad when speculation happens.

Okay so that is where your angst is rooted in gotcha. They weren't bashing they were saying its fiscally irresponsible and they do have a point and if you don't like that its fine. Speculation happens all the time and there's no stopping it and if you want to get mad because some one is speculating then there won't be an end to that madness. As per not playing FB this season you have no clue what is happening in the 757 even i don't so may be they have a reason why they chose not to instead of appealing to someone ego's that doesn't know what they have to deal with.

Ha! For the majority of G5 programs just playing in the FBS is irresponsible. We know there will be obscene amounts of money spent without a major financial return. ODU should have known that before joining. At North Texas we view our football program as marketing for the university. In that sense it becomes a matter of increased enrollment and overall interest in our university. Turning a profit is secondary.

Alright then you guys continue marketing and let us do what fits best for us. You don't need to be butt hurt because the ODU AD complained about being a geographical outlier and thus costing us a lot of additional money for travel. Turning in profit? I don't think any of the G5's do that even in their best years. For G5's its mostly about keeping their athletic deptartments afloat.

(09-26-2020 07:01 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 06:06 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:45 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:31 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 03:30 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  At somepoint you gotta get over this and stop fantacizing. I would say you are better served by fixing issues at UNT than worrying about us.

Fantacizing... Ha! For the past few off-seasons, I've seen articles from ODU beat writers or local papers bashing C-USA. ODU doesn't seem to be in line with the thinking around C-USA. They are only C-USA program that quit on their football season. After seeing ODU's leadership openly complain about how being C-USA is costing them money, you can't really get mad when speculation happens.

Okay so that is where your angst is rooted in gotcha. They weren't bashing they were saying its fiscally irresponsible and they do have a point and if you don't like that its fine. Speculation happens all the time and there's no stopping it and if you want to get mad because some one is speculating then there won't be an end to that madness. As per not playing FB this season you have no clue what is happening in the 757 even i don't so may be they have a reason why they chose not to instead of appealing to someone ego's that doesn't know what they have to deal with.

Ha! For the majority of G5 programs just playing in the FBS is irresponsible. We know there will be obscene amounts of money spent without a major financial return. ODU should have known that before joining. At North Texas we view our football program as marketing for the university. In that sense it becomes a matter of increased enrollment and overall interest in our university. Turning a profit is secondary.

Alright then you guys continue marketing and let us do what fits best for us. You don't need to be butt hurt because the ODU AD complained about being a geographical outlier and thus costing us a lot of additional money for travel. Turning in profit? I don't think any of the G5's do that even in their best years. For G5's its mostly about keeping their athletic deptartments afloat.

Well that is the thing about being in a conference... some decisions you make do effect the rest of C-USA.

1. When ODU complains about the burden of conferencing in C-USA, it negatively impacts the perception of our conference and hurts C-USA's ability to market our product.

2. When ODU's local paper or department writer publishes articles about wanting to realign C-USA, it negatively impacts the perception of the conference, and furthers the perception of C-USA instability.

3. And, when ODU unilaterally decides to cancel their football season, it leaves conference members with holes in their schedules, and and forces them to buy an FCS game, or expose their team to another P5 road game that (before the NCAA's everyone's eligibility rule) would have negatively impacted their ability to finish bowl eligible.

You fail to realize that some of ODU's actions do effect the rest of C-USA, and mostly in negative ways. What ODU has done to your fellow conference members is at the very least inconsiderate, and costly. ODU fans may not like the topic, but it is certainly worth questioning.

clt says this isn’t a cusa level tennis facility.

(09-26-2020 05:36 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 02:31 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 01:27 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 01:06 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  There's absolutely NOTHING exciting about this GA Southern vs ULL game. Honestly, it looks like a glorified high school game. With 6 min left in the 3rd quarter, GA Southern has passed for a whopping 79 yds, and ULL has passed for only 143 yds. Both teams have thrown interceptions, and both QB's are horrible. GaSouthern has already rushed the ball 40 times.

Like I said....a glorified high school game. Score is tied 7-7.

Would you say the same thing about Army and Navy?

Of course, if they played like this. Why wouldn't I? Is this a trick question.

Lol, no need to get defensive. Was only asking.

Seriously, not defensive. I just don't see the relevance, or the relationship to what we were talking about. LOL!

(09-26-2020 09:16 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

clt says this isn’t a cusa level tennis facility.

CUSA has Tennis?

(09-26-2020 09:16 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

clt says this isn’t a cusa level tennis facility.

What about this? https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm...wsID=22808


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(09-26-2020 09:21 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 09:16 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

clt says this isn’t a cusa level tennis facility.

What about this? https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm...wsID=22808


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Passing that plate sure does provide. How is Jr doing?

I'm sure Liberty wouldn't say no to a conference invite, but as for now, they don't need one (in football) to be successful. They beat Georgia Southern last year in a bowl game, and they are sure to get another bowl invite this year.

Hugh Freeze is a heck of a coach. Wonder how long he will be there.

(09-26-2020 09:17 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 05:36 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 02:31 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 01:27 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 01:06 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  There's absolutely NOTHING exciting about this GA Southern vs ULL game. Honestly, it looks like a glorified high school game. With 6 min left in the 3rd quarter, GA Southern has passed for a whopping 79 yds, and ULL has passed for only 143 yds. Both teams have thrown interceptions, and both QB's are horrible. GaSouthern has already rushed the ball 40 times.

Like I said....a glorified high school game. Score is tied 7-7.

Would you say the same thing about Army and Navy?

Of course, if they played like this. Why wouldn't I? Is this a trick question.

Lol, no need to get defensive. Was only asking.

Seriously, not defensive. I just don't see the relevance, or the relationship to what we were talking about. LOL!

Fair enough. I saw relevance though in that you emphasized how few passing yards both teams had and how many times they had both rushed the ball so far. That's Army and Navy in a nutshell. Last year for example, Army rushed the ball 743 times on 869 plays from scrimmage and completed only 47% of their passes. Navy rushed the ball 773 times on 877 plays from scrimmage, though they completed a slightly higher 52% of their passes. Neither team is normally known to have a good quarterback who would survive in any other system aside from the run-heavy triple option that they run.

And doesn't Georgia Southern run a triple option also? I know they run the ball about 3 times as much as they pass. I also know that in 2018, when they went 10-3, they committed only 5 turnovers in the entire season, the fewest by an FBS team in the modern era. I don't know what ULL runs because I don't watch them, but what little I do know is that they run the ball about 3 times as much as they pass also.

Mind you, I didn't watch this game as you apparently did, but there seems to be a lot of relevance here between Georgia Southern and ULL who have built their offenses around the ground game and Army and Navy who do the same. Maybe I'm just looking at this all wrong though. I was born in Germany after all, not the football country that's Texas and Louisiana. lol

(09-26-2020 05:09 PM)Fish Wrote:  I didn't expect FIU to win this game, and I think they played Liberty better than WKU did. Clearly FIU gave up way too many yards on defense, but part of that was exacerbated by penalties... FIU had 15 penalties for 127 yards, while Liberty only had 4 for 40.... Hmmm.... Those BS PI calls forced the DBs to play much more passive than they typically do, which allowed some big pickups through the air for Liberty.

Liberty is a solid football team with Willis at QB. I am excited for the potential of Norton at QB for FIU. He's a very raw prospect as a redshirt freshmen, but he showed flashes of a great arm. I wish FIU would have gotten JJ Holloman more involved in the offense, but alas... FIU will compete with anyone in C-USA East, although it seems Marshall is the clear favorite at this point (maybe FAU can give them a run). FIU has a lot of individual talent on offense, but needs to put it together with better QB play. I wish Norton would have started this game. It may have turned out differently...

Totally agree. I thought FIU played fairly good against Liberty. Still too bad we lost a game we had as good a chance to win as any. Calls that were 50-50 seemed to me to go Liberty’s way most of the time, I thought as well.

(09-26-2020 08:44 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 07:01 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 06:06 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:45 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-26-2020 04:31 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Fantacizing... Ha! For the past few off-seasons, I've seen articles from ODU beat writers or local papers bashing C-USA. ODU doesn't seem to be in line with the thinking around C-USA. They are only C-USA program that quit on their football season. After seeing ODU's leadership openly complain about how being C-USA is costing them money, you can't really get mad when speculation happens.

Okay so that is where your angst is rooted in gotcha. They weren't bashing they were saying its fiscally irresponsible and they do have a point and if you don't like that its fine. Speculation happens all the time and there's no stopping it and if you want to get mad because some one is speculating then there won't be an end to that madness. As per not playing FB this season you have no clue what is happening in the 757 even i don't so may be they have a reason why they chose not to instead of appealing to someone ego's that doesn't know what they have to deal with.

Ha! For the majority of G5 programs just playing in the FBS is irresponsible. We know there will be obscene amounts of money spent without a major financial return. ODU should have known that before joining. At North Texas we view our football program as marketing for the university. In that sense it becomes a matter of increased enrollment and overall interest in our university. Turning a profit is secondary.

Alright then you guys continue marketing and let us do what fits best for us. You don't need to be butt hurt because the ODU AD complained about being a geographical outlier and thus costing us a lot of additional money for travel. Turning in profit? I don't think any of the G5's do that even in their best years. For G5's its mostly about keeping their athletic deptartments afloat.

Well that is the thing about being in a conference... some decisions you make do effect the rest of C-USA.

1. When ODU complains about the burden of conferencing in C-USA, it negatively impacts the perception of our conference and hurts C-USA's ability to market our product.

2. When ODU's local paper or department writer publishes articles about wanting to realign C-USA, it negatively impacts the perception of the conference, and furthers the perception of C-USA instability.

3. And, when ODU unilaterally decides to cancel their football season, it leaves conference members with holes in their schedules, and and forces them to buy an FCS game, or expose their team to another P5 road game that (before the NCAA's everyone's eligibility rule) would have negatively impacted their ability to finish bowl eligible.

You fail to realize that some of ODU's actions do effect the rest of C-USA, and mostly in negative ways. What ODU has done to your fellow conference members is at the very least inconsiderate, and costly. ODU fans may not like the topic, but it is certainly worth questioning.

That's some next level shade right there. You are saying you were not able to market your product because of something ODU AD or the local news paper guy said? Wow who are these guys you are trying to market to that are paying so much attention to ODU and what its saying? I don't believe that and i don't think anyone in the 757 or VA for that matter cares what UNT does or what a dallas newspaper has to say. That is some wild **** and as per your third point which is valid i am sure ODU AD gave the conference teams and the league office notice ahead of the schedule so you can adjust and its not like any of us are gonna play a full schedule this season so that is a moot point. Yes i realize some actions individual schools take have effect on the conference but no where near that impacts the marketability of a fellow school. Come on man