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FYI, Jaden Johnson, Ezikpe, Reese, Wade, Hueitt, Godwin, Caver were all composite three star recruits. Xavier and O'Connell were two stars. Four recruits were unrated (two were foreign players). The rest were transfers.

(09-11-2020 07:20 AM)T-Mac Wrote:  FYI, Jaden Johnson, Ezikpe, Reese, Wade, Hueitt, Godwin, Caver were all composite three star recruits. Xavier and O'Connell were two stars. Four recruits were unrated (two were foreign players). The rest were transfers.

Hueitt and Godwin transferred out. They were not good enough for JJ. Ezipke and Reese are good, but not three stars quality, yet. Greene is not consistent, since he is going into his senior year and you still don't know how he will play from game to game. Caver was the best, but JJ played him too many minutes. Maybe JJ could not rely on a backup PT. Enjoy the next two season's.

Spreading bull as usual. Hueitt left cause he didn’t want to play defense or team ball. Godwin left cause he was a coward and didn’t want to face discipline for the rules he broke.

If Ezipke isn’t a 3star quality player Id like to know who is? That guy has skills and will do nothing but get better (hopefully). He may be my favorite player in the team.

(09-12-2020 04:05 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(09-11-2020 07:20 AM)T-Mac Wrote:  FYI, Jaden Johnson, Ezikpe, Reese, Wade, Hueitt, Godwin, Caver were all composite three star recruits. Xavier and O'Connell were two stars. Four recruits were unrated (two were foreign players). The rest were transfers.

Hueitt and Godwin transferred out. They were not good enough for JJ. Ezipke and Reese are good, but not three stars quality, yet. Greene is not consistent, since he is going into his senior year and you still don't know how he will play from game to game. Caver was the best, but JJ played him too many minutes. Maybe JJ could not rely on a backup PT. Enjoy the next two season's.

You're moving the goal posts. Your original assertion was that we didn't recruit enough 3-star players. When evidence proved that statement false, you now want to qualify what constitutes a 3-star player by 'Monday-morning-quarterbacking' what happened AFTER they were recruited.

If you'd like to separately critique JJ for player retention, fine. Make that argument. Just don't conflate the two criticisms because they're not related. You can't make an intelligent argument that JJ's recruits don't have "enough stars". He's done quite well in that regard. When you count the recruiting rankings for the transfers he's brought in, he's out-recruited all of his predecessors by a large margin.

There are a few that will criticize nonstop. We now met most of the initial criticisms (big men, 3 star) and have a full class a year in advance. So, gotta find something.

(09-12-2020 08:08 PM)monarx Wrote:  If Ezipke if any a 3star quality player Id like to know who is? That guy has skills and will do nothing but get better (hopefully). He may be my favorite player in the team.

JJ has the final say in picking, the recruits. These coaches have had 2 years to teach Ezipke, how to stay out of foul trouble. Hopefully, this third year is a blessing. You can't play, sitting on the bench

(09-12-2020 05:15 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  Spreading bull as usual. Hueitt left cause he didn’t want to play defense or team ball. Godwin left cause he was a coward and didn’t want to face discipline for the rules he broke.

JJ recruited Hueitt because he can shoot. I feel in recruiting him, JJ knew he had a weakness in defense. Remember all these freshmen that JJ recruits are his choice, he is the Captain of the ship. He knows what he was getting, because he can't recruit highly qualified freshmen, that will be consist.

(09-12-2020 08:08 PM)monarx Wrote:  If Ezipke if any a 3star quality player Id like to know who is? That guy has skills and will do nothing but get better (hopefully). He may be my favorite player in the team.

Yes, he has skills. JJ has just has not taught him to stay out of foul trouble, leading to more time on the bench.

(09-15-2020 06:45 AM)bluelight Wrote:  

(09-12-2020 08:08 PM)monarx Wrote:  If Ezipke if any a 3star quality player Id like to know who is? That guy has skills and will do nothing but get better (hopefully). He may be my favorite player in the team.

Yes, he has skills. JJ has just has not taught him to stay out of foul trouble, leading to more time on the bench.

Bwahahaha

(09-15-2020 06:42 AM)bluelight Wrote:  

(09-12-2020 05:15 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  Spreading bull as usual. Hueitt left cause he didn’t want to play defense or team ball. Godwin left cause he was a coward and didn’t want to face discipline for the rules he broke.

JJ recruited Hueitt because he can shoot. I feel in recruiting him, JJ knew he had a weakness in defense. Remember all these freshmen that JJ recruits are his choice, he is the Captain of the ship. He knows what he was getting, because he can't recruit highly qualified freshmen, that will be consist.

Partly accurate...Hueitt could shoot in a free flowing and in a significant less structured offense. A shooter needs confidence that he has the green light to shoot and not be benched or chewed out the moment they take a bad shot. To put a true sniper in a structured system along with the added pressure of getting benched for taking a shot is a recipe for disaster.

I just looked on ODU recruiting chart and the three guard freshmen are 2 stars. O'connell and Shani (also freshmen recruits) are also 2 stars. Hey, you can't get any better than that. Great job JJ. At this rate Wood will give you a 7 year contract extension after the next two years, left on your contract. After this year and next nearly everyone is gone. What an empty nest. Enjoy these next two years of ODU. Part of this year and next year. Maybe we can stay on the transfer portal.

The #2 pick in the nba draft last year was UNRANKED coming out of high school. That means ZERO stars. Get you head out of your arse.

If only our coaches paid better attention to 247 recruiting rankings... then they would know exactly who to recruit and in which order to recruit them. All of our lives would be soo much easier...

(09-23-2020 07:13 PM)Prideofalion Wrote:  If only our coaches paid better attention to 247 recruiting rankings... then they would know exactly who to recruit and in which order to recruit them. All of our lives would be soo much easier...

Don't coaches have an "auto draft" feature like fantasy football?

(09-23-2020 05:15 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  The #2 pick in the nba draft last year was UNRANKED coming out of high school. That means ZERO stars. Get you head out of your arse.

One pick out of the top 25 was unrated. That does not indicate that ratings are meaningless.

Its really pointless to compare. We aren't ever going to compete with schools for high schoolers that are projected to be drafted. We need to hit on 2-3 stars. Unfortunately, 247 pays no mind to these types of recruits.

For the records, Hachimura was a 3 star.
Culver was a 3 star and ranked as 312

Thats just in the top 10. I don't recall were Okeke, Walker, Clarke, Jerome, Windler, or Kabengele were ranked coming into high school.

(09-24-2020 11:39 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Its really pointless to compare. We aren't ever going to compete with schools for high schoolers that are projected to be drafted. We need to hit on 2-3 stars. Unfortunately, 247 pays no mind to these types of recruits.

For the records, Hachimura was a 3 star.
Culver was a 3 star and ranked as 312

Thats just in the top 10. I don't recall were Okeke, Walker, Clarke, Jerome, Windler, or Kabengele were ranked coming into high school.

Not just hit on 2 or (mostly) 3 starts. That should be table stakes. We need to hit on an occasional 4* every now and then too.

(09-24-2020 06:01 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(09-24-2020 11:39 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Its really pointless to compare. We aren't ever going to compete with schools for high schoolers that are projected to be drafted. We need to hit on 2-3 stars. Unfortunately, 247 pays no mind to these types of recruits.

For the records, Hachimura was a 3 star.
Culver was a 3 star and ranked as 312

Thats just in the top 10. I don't recall were Okeke, Walker, Clarke, Jerome, Windler, or Kabengele were ranked coming into high school.

Not just hit on 2 or (mostly) 3 starts. That should be table stakes. We need to hit on an occasional 4* every now and then too.

For mids like ODU, there's two ways to get a 4: Have an in with them (family member played for the school) or develop a relationship with them very early before they're even on the radar and establish yourself as they earn more stars. It's exceedingly difficult to be successful if you offer them when they're already a 4, because bigger programs and ones with more sweat equity in the kid will already be on the ground.

Batting average for a 2 that becomes a 4 is low, but it's virtually zero for someone that's already a 4 (unless they're a local kid or have ties with the school, and even then that's usually not enough)

Or if you pay the kid