(08-09-2020 11:01 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 10:35 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 09:54 AM)450bench Wrote:  If you don’t wanna play football and you’re on a football scholarship, it should be revoked. Plenty of others out there would eat nails to be in the position to receive a football scholarship.
2020 season or not. Doesn’t matter, it’s the point.

Never mind that universities are having to host classes virtually because it is unsafe to put 30 people in the same room, if we say go out there and play for our entertainment you should.

In the other thread you were all about personal choice. It’s your personal choice to believe the health department. It’s your personal choice to believe peer reviewed research. It’s your personal choice to tailgate, and isn’t fair that they won’t let you.

But when one of these kids wants to exercise his personal choice to not play your tune changes rather quickly?

Show me where my tune changed. I never put any form of edict in that post. Hey let them do that. Not a problem. And the coach and university should have the right to revoke or nonrenew their scholarship. Simple as that.
It’s totally about personal choice. You’re right. You make the choice not to play, you’re off scholarship and we’ll find someone to replace you. Absolutely it’s a choice.

Do you really think that our coach will revoke a scholarship from one of his players during a pandemic? Have you been paying attention?


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(08-09-2020 12:35 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 11:01 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 10:35 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 09:54 AM)450bench Wrote:  If you don’t wanna play football and you’re on a football scholarship, it should be revoked. Plenty of others out there would eat nails to be in the position to receive a football scholarship.
2020 season or not. Doesn’t matter, it’s the point.

Never mind that universities are having to host classes virtually because it is unsafe to put 30 people in the same room, if we say go out there and play for our entertainment you should.

In the other thread you were all about personal choice. It’s your personal choice to believe the health department. It’s your personal choice to believe peer reviewed research. It’s your personal choice to tailgate, and isn’t fair that they won’t let you.

But when one of these kids wants to exercise his personal choice to not play your tune changes rather quickly?

Show me where my tune changed. I never put any form of edict in that post. Hey let them do that. Not a problem. And the coach and university should have the right to revoke or nonrenew their scholarship. Simple as that.
It’s totally about personal choice. You’re right. You make the choice not to play, you’re off scholarship and we’ll find someone to replace you. Absolutely it’s a choice.

Do you really think that our coach will revoke a scholarship from one of his players during a pandemic? Have you been paying attention?


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Well...back in my day, we used to 5 miles to school UPHILL...BOTH WAYS. And if we didn't, well there was 500 other students willing to do the same.

(08-09-2020 12:35 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 11:01 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 10:35 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 09:54 AM)450bench Wrote:  If you don’t wanna play football and you’re on a football scholarship, it should be revoked. Plenty of others out there would eat nails to be in the position to receive a football scholarship.
2020 season or not. Doesn’t matter, it’s the point.

Never mind that universities are having to host classes virtually because it is unsafe to put 30 people in the same room, if we say go out there and play for our entertainment you should.

In the other thread you were all about personal choice. It’s your personal choice to believe the health department. It’s your personal choice to believe peer reviewed research. It’s your personal choice to tailgate, and isn’t fair that they won’t let you.

But when one of these kids wants to exercise his personal choice to not play your tune changes rather quickly?

Show me where my tune changed. I never put any form of edict in that post. Hey let them do that. Not a problem. And the coach and university should have the right to revoke or nonrenew their scholarship. Simple as that.
It’s totally about personal choice. You’re right. You make the choice not to play, you’re off scholarship and we’ll find someone to replace you. Absolutely it’s a choice.

Do you really think that our coach will revoke a scholarship from one of his players during a pandemic? Have you been paying attention?


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Did I say that I think a coach will do that? Please, show me where I said that.

yanking a scholarship is the same as holding out for half the profits

it wont work unless all the plantiffs are on the same page

Yanking a scholarship for not playing due to a pandemic is not the answer.

Football is not necessary...It is entertainment. But they should be punished for not being willing to risk their health or their families health to entertain us.

Yup this is 'Merica

(08-09-2020 12:04 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I’m guessing it’s going to be difficult to fund all these scholarships with significantly fewer $$ coming in.

Most of the scholarship is soft money anyway.

But I will say this...If classes are remote and you are too worried to play you shouldn't be staying on campus...But that is just me.

The campus will be open. There will be students on the campus for some face-to-face instruction. It includes labs, clinical training, arts/music and engineering courses. That way they can still charge students for a parking fee.

(08-09-2020 03:28 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  The campus will be open. There will be students on the campus for some face-to-face instruction. It includes labs, clinical training, arts/music and engineering courses. That way they can still charge students for a parking fee.

Everyone can take the bridge over the railroad tracks to their online class.

(08-09-2020 11:16 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 11:10 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Pandemic, man.

Students aren't being forced to meet. Why should the athletes?

Your personal freedom argument will be for moot in about a week when all fall sports are off for 2020.

You’re probably right. In about a week the season will be cancelled, I agree with your comment there.

And in my opinion, it’s ridiculous. Same with the school situation. Same with every edict passed down as a result of this. Freedoms are being methodically removed. Where does that stop? It’s a polorizing topic. No doubt.

College sports is not the place to try to take stands about freedom. It is not capitalism, it is not even socialism, it's basically fascism.

(08-09-2020 02:54 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 12:04 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I’m guessing it’s going to be difficult to fund all these scholarships with significantly fewer $$ coming in.

Most of the scholarship is soft money anyway.

But I will say this...If classes are remote and you are too worried to play you shouldn't be staying on campus...But that is just me.

Yeah, a key point. A scholarship has a dollar value attached but, really, the school is not out any money from the scholarship beyond the cost of dorm living and meals, which is on an economy of scale so large that it is pretty negligible. I don't know what their COL stipend is, that's the real amount they're out per scholarship.

(08-09-2020 03:57 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 02:54 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 12:04 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I’m guessing it’s going to be difficult to fund all these scholarships with significantly fewer $$ coming in.

Most of the scholarship is soft money anyway.

But I will say this...If classes are remote and you are too worried to play you shouldn't be staying on campus...But that is just me.

Yeah, a key point. A scholarship has a dollar value attached but, really, the school is not out any money from the scholarship beyond the cost of dorm living and meals, which is on an economy of scale so large that it is pretty negligible. I don't know what their COL stipend is, that's the real amount they're out per scholarship.

Not sure if you know what the TSF is for: From the website but also from numerous conversations with the staff...the TSF is FOR donations to cover real scholarships - they are not free. Cash has to be transferred from donors checking account to cover or help cover them. The state does not give them to Memphis for free.

From the website:

The mission of the Memphis Athletics Development Office is to generate funding for student-athlete scholarships and improved facilities, as well as to provide general support to the University of Memphis Athletics Department. We accomplish these goals through the Tiger Scholarship Fund, the True Blue Society and the M Club. This mission is achieved by cultivating relationships that encourage private giving from those businesses and individuals who share our commitment, passion and vision for Tiger Athletics.

(08-09-2020 11:01 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 10:35 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 09:54 AM)450bench Wrote:  If you don’t wanna play football and you’re on a football scholarship, it should be revoked. Plenty of others out there would eat nails to be in the position to receive a football scholarship.
2020 season or not. Doesn’t matter, it’s the point.

Never mind that universities are having to host classes virtually because it is unsafe to put 30 people in the same room, if we say go out there and play for our entertainment you should.

In the other thread you were all about personal choice. It’s your personal choice to believe the health department. It’s your personal choice to believe peer reviewed research. It’s your personal choice to tailgate, and isn’t fair that they won’t let you.

But when one of these kids wants to exercise his personal choice to not play your tune changes rather quickly?

Show me where my tune changed. I never put any form of edict in that post. Hey let them do that. Not a problem. And the coach and university should have the right to revoke or nonrenew their scholarship. Simple as that.
It’s totally about personal choice. You’re right. You make the choice not to play, you’re off scholarship and we’ll find someone to replace you. Absolutely it’s a choice.

Perhaps hospitals should have the right to refuse admittance to infected patients who chose not to wear face masks or observe social distancing. So you believe in personal choice with consequences determined by those in authority?

That has always been America

You CAN do what you want, exercise your choice

But there may be governmental consequences. This is nothing new. You CAN punch someone for no reason. Government is empowered to punish you if you do. Even some rights that look to be constitutionally protected can still have government consequences. We have free speech, but some forms of speech are prohibited and the SCT has confirmed that and you can be punished for some of it

We can own arms, but we cannot own nuclear weapons

And so on

When it is determined that the government interest is high enough, activities can be curtailed. The government can require health standards in slaughterhouses. They can require masks during a pandemic. And so on.

Not arguing you have to like any of it, but this is NOTHING new

1. Hospitals don’t refuse service to anyone.

2. I believe in freedom of choice.

Universities aren't "having" to go online, they are choosing to, since not a single university has anyone well-versed in statistics or science.

There is virtually no difference in social interaction playing FB vs other socially close activities. Do you really think the players will be quarantining themselves if they don't play FB & avoiding social interaction? This is a ruse, encouraged by media hysteria.

(08-09-2020 09:13 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  There is virtually no difference in social interaction playing FB vs other socially close activities. Do you really think the players will be quarantining themselves if they don't play FB & avoiding social interaction? This is a ruse, encouraged by media hysteria.

Yep. Absolutely

(08-09-2020 09:17 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 09:13 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  There is virtually no difference in social interaction playing FB vs other socially close activities. Do you really think the players will be quarantining themselves if they don't play FB & avoiding social interaction? This is a ruse, encouraged by media hysteria.

Yep. Absolutely

Huge difference:

1) If players or anyone decides upon themselves to gather together they take on that responsibility

2) If there is a sanctioned game, at a stadium - at that point liability is all over the place in a major way.

Massive difference

(08-09-2020 12:35 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 11:01 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 10:35 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 09:54 AM)450bench Wrote:  If you don’t wanna play football and you’re on a football scholarship, it should be revoked. Plenty of others out there would eat nails to be in the position to receive a football scholarship.
2020 season or not. Doesn’t matter, it’s the point.

Never mind that universities are having to host classes virtually because it is unsafe to put 30 people in the same room, if we say go out there and play for our entertainment you should.

In the other thread you were all about personal choice. It’s your personal choice to believe the health department. It’s your personal choice to believe peer reviewed research. It’s your personal choice to tailgate, and isn’t fair that they won’t let you.

But when one of these kids wants to exercise his personal choice to not play your tune changes rather quickly?

Show me where my tune changed. I never put any form of edict in that post. Hey let them do that. Not a problem. And the coach and university should have the right to revoke or nonrenew their scholarship. Simple as that.
It’s totally about personal choice. You’re right. You make the choice not to play, you’re off scholarship and we’ll find someone to replace you. Absolutely it’s a choice.

Do you really think that our coach will revoke a scholarship from one of his players during a pandemic? Have you been paying attention?


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You are correct. No way a player will lose his scholly if he chooses not to play this season.

(08-09-2020 09:36 PM)griffin Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 09:17 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 09:13 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  There is virtually no difference in social interaction playing FB vs other socially close activities. Do you really think the players will be quarantining themselves if they don't play FB & avoiding social interaction? This is a ruse, encouraged by media hysteria.

Yep. Absolutely

Huge difference:

1) If players or anyone decides upon themselves to gather together they take on that responsibility

2) If there is a sanctioned game, at a stadium - at that point liability is all over the place in a major way.

Massive difference

How is that risk & responsibility any different than the risk of playing football generally, a high risk sport?