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RE: SEC goes 10 game, conference only
(07-30-2020 08:39 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
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(07-30-2020 03:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  They're really going to have no basis for determining the CFP if its close.

They'll take the 4 conference champs with the best SOS based on RPI. If there is a CFP. This will hurt the PAC more than anyone else.

With conference only schedules, RPI is meaningless.

It's always been meaningless. It's a computer's best guess. Whoopee! And SOS will be self serving as well for the SEC and Big 10. But what's different about that? Nada! So in the end it will be the 4 teams with the better records that also draw tons of eyes to their games. Bank on it!

There is no perfect computer rankings system and never will be with every team playing 12-15 games. But without non-conference games you have to use information from previous seasons with respect to winning which conference carries the most weight. That's what would be different this year.

If we were to have a CFP and it's not obvious which of the P5 champs are the 4 best the Pac-12 and any ACC champ (if it isn't somehow Clemson) are going to be at a disadvantage.

Clemson has a sterling track record in the CFP and has the likely Heisman winner and #1 NFL draft pick at QB. They will be in no way disadvantaged in the CFP selection, to the contrary they will get every benefit of the doubt.

Now any other team wins the ACC, that might be a different story.
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(07-31-2020 06:47 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
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(07-30-2020 03:55 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  That’s a jerk move to L’ville, Florida St, Georgia Tech and Clemson.

Fixed it. Shame on us (UGa) for not standing with South Carolina on this one. Yes, the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party is huge and so is the Deep South's Oldest Rivalry, but you can't replace Clean, Old-fashioned Hate. I'll have to put asterisk by this season. The season's not right if we don't play Tech, IMO. Yeah, Tech stinks this year, but give 'em a shot anyway. I think UF's AD told us to vote for this, and that is why we didn't vote with SC like we should have.

Yeah, it’s all very, very disappointing. This what happens when you have a bunch of suits and TV executives making decisions
Ok Gamecock, finally found out why the SEC made its decision. Per the Rick & Bubba radio show this morning, it is because the SEC did not want to be at the mercy of the ACC when it came to games being cancelled. That I can see, because the ACC was leaning the same direction as the Big Ten & PAC 12 for awhile.

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RE: SEC goes 10 game, conference only
(07-31-2020 06:49 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
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(07-30-2020 06:02 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  
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(07-30-2020 03:51 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Seriously, seriously mad at the leadership right now - unless this is just some sort of silly pretense to cancelling the entire season it's hard to see how this makes sense.

Personally, if we can't even play Clemson there isn't much point to even having as season.


Understood. I feel the same way about Southern Cal (I never call them "USC").

Thanks Terry. I might have to be a bandwagon ND fan this year haha

Blame the PAC and Big 10 and then the ACC. The PAC set the tone and the Big 10 followed. When the ACC went to 10 the SEC had no choice but to do the same. The leadership you need to blame is that of ESPN and the ACC.

But look at it like the social experiment it is. If 5 home SEC games doesn't draw as well or better than what you had scheduled with 2 buy games what have you lost?

Also Gamecock if it isn't worth having the Season if you don't play Clemson then you don't really belong in the SEC. I would think by now that games with Tennessee, Florida and Georgia should be worth a season.

JR, the Clemson game is the biggest game of the year and it’s not close. No one is going to give a damn or be excited about playing Arkansas or Auburn.

Frankly, at this point I’m done with the SEC and all of their empty talk. Clearly the league does not care about South Carolina or it’s fans.

It's laughable how so many ACC fans, and now a few South Carolina, fans are getting their panties in a wad over the cancellation of some SEC-ACC games. Earth to fanboys: It's a pandemic and games are being canceled all over the place, you're not being singled out.

And the funniest thing is that Clemson/SC is drawing the most whining. I'm sorry Clemson and SC fans, but your rivalry just isn't that big of a deal. Who really cares if Clemson doesn't get to beat SC by 40 points yet again? OK, i get it - people in the state of South Carolina care. But guess what? You can't expect entire conferences to mold schedules for everyone based on what the state of South Carolina wants, can you?

Fans of bigger rivalries, like USC vs Notre Dame, aren't whining so put a lid on it for crissakes.

You'd think Clemson vs SC was Army vs Navy or something. Good grief.

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(07-31-2020 07:54 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 06:47 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 01:27 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(07-30-2020 03:55 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  That’s a jerk move to L’ville, Florida St, Georgia Tech and Clemson.

Fixed it. Shame on us (UGa) for not standing with South Carolina on this one. Yes, the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party is huge and so is the Deep South's Oldest Rivalry, but you can't replace Clean, Old-fashioned Hate. I'll have to put asterisk by this season. The season's not right if we don't play Tech, IMO. Yeah, Tech stinks this year, but give 'em a shot anyway. I think UF's AD told us to vote for this, and that is why we didn't vote with SC like we should have.

Yeah, it’s all very, very disappointing. This what happens when you have a bunch of suits and TV executives making decisions
Ok Gamecock, finally found out why the SEC made its decision. Per the Rick & Bubba radio show this morning, it is because the SEC did not want to be at the mercy of the ACC when it came to games being cancelled. That I can see, because the ACC was leaning the same direction as the Big Ten & PAC 12 for awhile.

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That's a shocker .... NOT, as it is the exact same reason that other conferences have gone to all-conference schedules too. Given the uncertainties of the pandemic, it makes sense for a conference to have complete control over its scheduling.
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RE: SEC goes 10 game, conference only
(07-31-2020 07:54 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
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(07-30-2020 06:02 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(07-30-2020 05:34 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Understood. I feel the same way about Southern Cal (I never call them "USC").

Thanks Terry. I might have to be a bandwagon ND fan this year haha

Blame the PAC and Big 10 and then the ACC. The PAC set the tone and the Big 10 followed. When the ACC went to 10 the SEC had no choice but to do the same. The leadership you need to blame is that of ESPN and the ACC.

But look at it like the social experiment it is. If 5 home SEC games doesn't draw as well or better than what you had scheduled with 2 buy games what have you lost?

Also Gamecock if it isn't worth having the Season if you don't play Clemson then you don't really belong in the SEC. I would think by now that games with Tennessee, Florida and Georgia should be worth a season.

JR, the Clemson game is the biggest game of the year and it’s not close. No one is going to give a damn or be excited about playing Arkansas or Auburn.

Frankly, at this point I’m done with the SEC and all of their empty talk. Clearly the league does not care about South Carolina or it’s fans.

It's laughable how so many ACC fans, and now a few South Carolina, fans are getting their panties in a wad over the cancellation of some SEC-ACC games. Earth to fanboys: It's a pandemic and games are being canceled all over the place, you're not being singled out.

And the funniest thing is that Clemson/SC is drawing the most whining. I'm sorry Clemson and SC fans, but your rivalry just isn't that big of a deal. Who really cares if Clemson doesn't get to beat SC by 40 points yet again? OK, i get it - people in the state of South Carolina care. But guess what? You can't expect entire conferences to mold schedules for everyone based on what the state of South Carolina wants, can you?

Fans of bigger rivalries, like USC vs Notre Dame, aren't whining so put a lid on it for crissakes.

You'd think Clemson vs SC was Army vs Navy or something. Good grief.

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But it is the biggest deal to us

Just because it doesn’t get the national attention doesn’t mean it isn’t one of the most heated rivalries in the country. In terms of pure hatred it’s right up there with any of those you mentioned

It’s just a gigantic slap in the face from conference leadership, particularly given that the ACC already announced they wanted those games to continue
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RE: SEC goes 10 game, conference only
(07-31-2020 08:16 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 07:54 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 06:49 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(07-30-2020 06:22 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-30-2020 06:02 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Thanks Terry. I might have to be a bandwagon ND fan this year haha

Blame the PAC and Big 10 and then the ACC. The PAC set the tone and the Big 10 followed. When the ACC went to 10 the SEC had no choice but to do the same. The leadership you need to blame is that of ESPN and the ACC.

But look at it like the social experiment it is. If 5 home SEC games doesn't draw as well or better than what you had scheduled with 2 buy games what have you lost?

Also Gamecock if it isn't worth having the Season if you don't play Clemson then you don't really belong in the SEC. I would think by now that games with Tennessee, Florida and Georgia should be worth a season.

JR, the Clemson game is the biggest game of the year and it’s not close. No one is going to give a damn or be excited about playing Arkansas or Auburn.

Frankly, at this point I’m done with the SEC and all of their empty talk. Clearly the league does not care about South Carolina or it’s fans.

It's laughable how so many ACC fans, and now a few South Carolina, fans are getting their panties in a wad over the cancellation of some SEC-ACC games. Earth to fanboys: It's a pandemic and games are being canceled all over the place, you're not being singled out.

And the funniest thing is that Clemson/SC is drawing the most whining. I'm sorry Clemson and SC fans, but your rivalry just isn't that big of a deal. Who really cares if Clemson doesn't get to beat SC by 40 points yet again? OK, i get it - people in the state of South Carolina care. But guess what? You can't expect entire conferences to mold schedules for everyone based on what the state of South Carolina wants, can you?

Fans of bigger rivalries, like USC vs Notre Dame, aren't whining so put a lid on it for crissakes.

You'd think Clemson vs SC was Army vs Navy or something. Good grief.

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But it is the biggest deal to us

Just because it doesn’t get the national attention doesn’t mean it isn’t one of the most heated rivalries in the country. In terms of pure hatred it’s right up there with any of those you mentioned

It’s just a gigantic slap in the face from conference leadership, particularly given that the ACC already announced they wanted those games to continue

I appreciate your passion.. something aggy has long lost.
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(07-31-2020 08:32 AM)Thiefery Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 08:16 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 07:54 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 06:49 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(07-30-2020 06:22 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Blame the PAC and Big 10 and then the ACC. The PAC set the tone and the Big 10 followed. When the ACC went to 10 the SEC had no choice but to do the same. The leadership you need to blame is that of ESPN and the ACC.

But look at it like the social experiment it is. If 5 home SEC games doesn't draw as well or better than what you had scheduled with 2 buy games what have you lost?

Also Gamecock if it isn't worth having the Season if you don't play Clemson then you don't really belong in the SEC. I would think by now that games with Tennessee, Florida and Georgia should be worth a season.

JR, the Clemson game is the biggest game of the year and it’s not close. No one is going to give a damn or be excited about playing Arkansas or Auburn.

Frankly, at this point I’m done with the SEC and all of their empty talk. Clearly the league does not care about South Carolina or it’s fans.

It's laughable how so many ACC fans, and now a few South Carolina, fans are getting their panties in a wad over the cancellation of some SEC-ACC games. Earth to fanboys: It's a pandemic and games are being canceled all over the place, you're not being singled out.

And the funniest thing is that Clemson/SC is drawing the most whining. I'm sorry Clemson and SC fans, but your rivalry just isn't that big of a deal. Who really cares if Clemson doesn't get to beat SC by 40 points yet again? OK, i get it - people in the state of South Carolina care. But guess what? You can't expect entire conferences to mold schedules for everyone based on what the state of South Carolina wants, can you?

Fans of bigger rivalries, like USC vs Notre Dame, aren't whining so put a lid on it for crissakes.

You'd think Clemson vs SC was Army vs Navy or something. Good grief.

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But it is the biggest deal to us

Just because it doesn’t get the national attention doesn’t mean it isn’t one of the most heated rivalries in the country. In terms of pure hatred it’s right up there with any of those you mentioned

It’s just a gigantic slap in the face from conference leadership, particularly given that the ACC already announced they wanted those games to continue

I appreciate your passion.. something aggy has long lost.

I’m really rooting for you guys to get that going again. Even if it has to be an opening weekend thing instead of thanksgiving day

I realize I’m having a bit of a meltdown but I’m definitely taking this pretty hard. I had about 5 or 6 Clemson fan friends text me yesterday to mock SC and the SEC over this. Hasn’t been this rough since their championship.

125 years of rivalry thats been uninterrupted since 1909 and it’s gone because the other 10 schools want to avoid paying buyouts to their G5 opponents, but that’s what happens when you let academics and pencil necked dweebs like Greg Sankey run a conference
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RE: SEC goes 10 game, conference only
(07-31-2020 08:46 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 08:32 AM)Thiefery Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 08:16 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 07:54 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 06:49 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  JR, the Clemson game is the biggest game of the year and it’s not close. No one is going to give a damn or be excited about playing Arkansas or Auburn.

Frankly, at this point I’m done with the SEC and all of their empty talk. Clearly the league does not care about South Carolina or it’s fans.

It's laughable how so many ACC fans, and now a few South Carolina, fans are getting their panties in a wad over the cancellation of some SEC-ACC games. Earth to fanboys: It's a pandemic and games are being canceled all over the place, you're not being singled out.

And the funniest thing is that Clemson/SC is drawing the most whining. I'm sorry Clemson and SC fans, but your rivalry just isn't that big of a deal. Who really cares if Clemson doesn't get to beat SC by 40 points yet again? OK, i get it - people in the state of South Carolina care. But guess what? You can't expect entire conferences to mold schedules for everyone based on what the state of South Carolina wants, can you?

Fans of bigger rivalries, like USC vs Notre Dame, aren't whining so put a lid on it for crissakes.

You'd think Clemson vs SC was Army vs Navy or something. Good grief.

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But it is the biggest deal to us

Just because it doesn’t get the national attention doesn’t mean it isn’t one of the most heated rivalries in the country. In terms of pure hatred it’s right up there with any of those you mentioned

It’s just a gigantic slap in the face from conference leadership, particularly given that the ACC already announced they wanted those games to continue

I appreciate your passion.. something aggy has long lost.

I’m really rooting for you guys to get that going again. Even if it has to be an opening weekend thing instead of thanksgiving day

I realize I’m having a bit of a meltdown but I’m definitely taking this pretty hard. I had about 5 or 6 Clemson fan friends text me yesterday to mock SC and the SEC over this. Hasn’t been this rough since their championship.

125 years of rivalry thats been uninterrupted since 1909 and it’s gone because the other 10 schools want to avoid paying buyouts to their G5 opponents, but that’s what happens when you let academics and pencil necked dweebs like Greg Sankey run a conference

They are mocking you because they need the game more than you do tbh.. The biggest games Clemson has is.. FSU, ND..maybe MIA and UNC?
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(07-30-2020 03:51 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Seriously, seriously mad at the leadership right now - unless this is just some sort of silly pretense to cancelling the entire season it's hard to see how this makes sense.

Personally, if we can't even play Clemson there isn't much point to even having as season.

Without a Clemson game - there is no season. 04-jawdrop 03-drunk 03-puke 07-coffee3
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I’ve have been critical of ACC leadership since Louisville joined the league. Now The SEC wimps out on college football. Didn’t think I would ever see the day that The ACC committed to play more games than The SEC.

What is it they say in The SEC.... “It just matters more”

Well.... I guess not 03-lmfao
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(07-30-2020 05:09 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  BYU wont be added to the B12. If the B12 even tries to have a 10th game it will be with an existing member a 2nd time. It's going to be hard for any of the conferences to actually play 10 games.

The only logical option for BYU is the MWC, where they are close to several mountain time zone schools, plus those in Nevada. I suspect the MWC will have to operate without Hawaii and New Mexico anyway due to State quarantine rules. But can they bring themselves to do it?

Those state quarantine rules likely sideline New Mexico State. They are in the most difficult position of any Independent.

Who knows about the rest? The American really doesn't need to help anyone. But perhaps they offer Army, knowing they can do what Navy does, and because they are on the expansion list.

UConn, UMass and Liberty would have to beg C-USA or the MAC. I suppose those three and Army could play a rump of a schedule, each other twice. That's enough to keep the doors open.

BYU's pride wont let them go back to the MWC, even just for temporary shelter.
I agree with your point on the AAC not needing to help anyone, I would hope our commissioner is hard selling BYU on AAC membership right now.

I noted that in my post

Yeah, I don't know many BYU fans holding out hope of being the Big 12's 10th game. That carrot has been dangled out there long enough you don't even really flinch anymore. The MWC is 3 of the 6 remaining games on BYU's schedule. I think as was pointed out, the challenge for MWC is going to be travel to/from Hawaii and New Mexico and perhaps California if they shut things down again. You might see the inter-mountain region teams needing to work together to hold a schedule together if it works at all. The indy's may end up scrapping the season as they are spread all over the country so playing each other is tough.
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(07-31-2020 08:16 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 07:54 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 06:49 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(07-30-2020 06:22 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-30-2020 06:02 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Thanks Terry. I might have to be a bandwagon ND fan this year haha

Blame the PAC and Big 10 and then the ACC. The PAC set the tone and the Big 10 followed. When the ACC went to 10 the SEC had no choice but to do the same. The leadership you need to blame is that of ESPN and the ACC.

But look at it like the social experiment it is. If 5 home SEC games doesn't draw as well or better than what you had scheduled with 2 buy games what have you lost?

Also Gamecock if it isn't worth having the Season if you don't play Clemson then you don't really belong in the SEC. I would think by now that games with Tennessee, Florida and Georgia should be worth a season.

JR, the Clemson game is the biggest game of the year and it’s not close. No one is going to give a damn or be excited about playing Arkansas or Auburn.

Frankly, at this point I’m done with the SEC and all of their empty talk. Clearly the league does not care about South Carolina or it’s fans.

It's laughable how so many ACC fans, and now a few South Carolina, fans are getting their panties in a wad over the cancellation of some SEC-ACC games. Earth to fanboys: It's a pandemic and games are being canceled all over the place, you're not being singled out.

And the funniest thing is that Clemson/SC is drawing the most whining. I'm sorry Clemson and SC fans, but your rivalry just isn't that big of a deal. Who really cares if Clemson doesn't get to beat SC by 40 points yet again? OK, i get it - people in the state of South Carolina care. But guess what? You can't expect entire conferences to mold schedules for everyone based on what the state of South Carolina wants, can you?

Fans of bigger rivalries, like USC vs Notre Dame, aren't whining so put a lid on it for crissakes.

You'd think Clemson vs SC was Army vs Navy or something. Good grief.

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But it is the biggest deal to us

Just because it doesn’t get the national attention doesn’t mean it isn’t one of the most heated rivalries in the country. In terms of pure hatred it’s right up there with any of those you mentioned

It’s just a gigantic slap in the face from conference leadership, particularly given that the ACC already announced they wanted those games to continue

And if its either at the beginning or ending of the season, it really doesn't impact the rest of the conference.

I think its kind of crazy to play football this year, but Clemson-South Carolina is no crazier than playing at all and probably less so since it is in state, minimizing travel.
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(07-31-2020 09:07 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I’ve have been critical of ACC leadership since Louisville joined the league. Now The SEC wimps out on college football. Didn’t think I would ever see the day that The ACC committed to play more games than The SEC.

What is it they say in The SEC.... “It just matters more”

Well.... I guess not 03-lmfao

Well I think clearly Kentucky, Georgia and Florida said Louisville, Georgia Tech and FSU just don't matter that much. South Carolina was the only no vote.

Other than Georgia-Georgia Tech, these aren't long standing rivalries. Kentucky-Louisville is very new. And Georgia-Georgia Tech has become kind of one sided the last 50 years.

Still kind of surprised Florida was a yes vote, but then it probably wouldn't have even come to a vote if Florida and Georgia weren't on board.
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(07-31-2020 09:07 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I’ve have been critical of ACC leadership since Louisville joined the league. Now The SEC wimps out on college football. Didn’t think I would ever see the day that The ACC committed to play more games than The SEC.

What is it they say in The SEC.... “It just matters more”

Well.... I guess not 03-lmfao

It just means more...unless we want to claim force majeuere to avoid paying buyouts!
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(07-31-2020 09:29 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 09:07 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I’ve have been critical of ACC leadership since Louisville joined the league. Now The SEC wimps out on college football. Didn’t think I would ever see the day that The ACC committed to play more games than The SEC.

What is it they say in The SEC.... “It just matters more”

Well.... I guess not 03-lmfao

Well I think clearly Kentucky, Georgia and Florida said Louisville, Georgia Tech and FSU just don't matter that much. South Carolina was the only no vote.

Other than Georgia-Georgia Tech, these aren't long standing rivalries. Kentucky-Louisville is very new. And Georgia-Georgia Tech has become kind of one sided the last 50 years.

Still kind of surprised Florida was a yes vote, but then it probably wouldn't have even come to a vote if Florida and Georgia weren't on board.

I can’t wait until The SEC doesn’t allow UK to play out of conference basketball. That will be the killer in Lexington.
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(07-30-2020 05:09 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  BYU wont be added to the B12. If the B12 even tries to have a 10th game it will be with an existing member a 2nd time. It's going to be hard for any of the conferences to actually play 10 games.

The only logical option for BYU is the MWC, where they are close to several mountain time zone schools, plus those in Nevada. I suspect the MWC will have to operate without Hawaii and New Mexico anyway due to State quarantine rules. But can they bring themselves to do it?

Those state quarantine rules likely sideline New Mexico State. They are in the most difficult position of any Independent.

Who knows about the rest? The American really doesn't need to help anyone. But perhaps they offer Army, knowing they can do what Navy does, and because they are on the expansion list.

UConn, UMass and Liberty would have to beg C-USA or the MAC. I suppose those three and Army could play a rump of a schedule, each other twice. That's enough to keep the doors open.

BYU's pride wont let them go back to the MWC, even just for temporary shelter.
I agree with your point on the AAC not needing to help anyone, I would hope our commissioner is hard selling BYU on AAC membership right now.

I noted that in my post

Yeah, I don't know many BYU fans holding out hope of being the Big 12's 10th game. That carrot has been dangled out there long enough you don't even really flinch anymore. The MWC is 3 of the 6 remaining games on BYU's schedule. I think as was pointed out, the challenge for MWC is going to be travel to/from Hawaii and New Mexico and perhaps California if they shut things down again. You might see the inter-mountain region teams needing to work together to hold a schedule together if it works at all. The indy's may end up scrapping the season as they are spread all over the country so playing each other is tough.
If BYU was ever going to have a real shot joining the Big 12, now is the time for a trial season.
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Big 12 playing 9 conference games plus everybody play BYU makes sense for 10 total for everyone
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(07-31-2020 09:46 AM)Thiefery Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 09:19 AM)f1do Wrote:  
(07-30-2020 05:30 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  
(07-30-2020 05:15 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(07-30-2020 05:09 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  BYU wont be added to the B12. If the B12 even tries to have a 10th game it will be with an existing member a 2nd time. It's going to be hard for any of the conferences to actually play 10 games.

The only logical option for BYU is the MWC, where they are close to several mountain time zone schools, plus those in Nevada. I suspect the MWC will have to operate without Hawaii and New Mexico anyway due to State quarantine rules. But can they bring themselves to do it?

Those state quarantine rules likely sideline New Mexico State. They are in the most difficult position of any Independent.

Who knows about the rest? The American really doesn't need to help anyone. But perhaps they offer Army, knowing they can do what Navy does, and because they are on the expansion list.

UConn, UMass and Liberty would have to beg C-USA or the MAC. I suppose those three and Army could play a rump of a schedule, each other twice. That's enough to keep the doors open.

BYU's pride wont let them go back to the MWC, even just for temporary shelter.
I agree with your point on the AAC not needing to help anyone, I would hope our commissioner is hard selling BYU on AAC membership right now.

I noted that in my post

Yeah, I don't know many BYU fans holding out hope of being the Big 12's 10th game. That carrot has been dangled out there long enough you don't even really flinch anymore. The MWC is 3 of the 6 remaining games on BYU's schedule. I think as was pointed out, the challenge for MWC is going to be travel to/from Hawaii and New Mexico and perhaps California if they shut things down again. You might see the inter-mountain region teams needing to work together to hold a schedule together if it works at all. The indy's may end up scrapping the season as they are spread all over the country so playing each other is tough.
If BYU was ever going to have a real shot joining the Big 12, now is the time for a trial season.

The B-12 doesn't need BYU for a ten game schedule. They can play their standard 9 game round robin schedule and Championship Game with the 2 highest rated teams, and then wait for the playoffs and bowl season like the B-10 and PAC-12. 07-coffee3
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(07-31-2020 08:00 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
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(07-30-2020 03:55 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  That’s a jerk move to L’ville, Florida St, Georgia Tech and Clemson.

Fixed it. Shame on us (UGa) for not standing with South Carolina on this one. Yes, the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party is huge and so is the Deep South's Oldest Rivalry, but you can't replace Clean, Old-fashioned Hate. I'll have to put asterisk by this season. The season's not right if we don't play Tech, IMO. Yeah, Tech stinks this year, but give 'em a shot anyway. I think UF's AD told us to vote for this, and that is why we didn't vote with SC like we should have.

Yeah, it’s all very, very disappointing. This what happens when you have a bunch of suits and TV executives making decisions
Ok Gamecock, finally found out why the SEC made its decision. Per the Rick & Bubba radio show this morning, it is because the SEC did not want to be at the mercy of the ACC when it came to games being cancelled. That I can see, because the ACC was leaning the same direction as the Big Ten & PAC 12 for awhile.

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That's a shocker .... NOT, as it is the exact same reason that other conferences have gone to all-conference schedules too. Given the uncertainties of the pandemic, it makes sense for a conference to have complete control over its scheduling.
Then why not just go ahead and do what the Ivy League, the Patriot League, and the MEAC have already done, and just cancel the season altogether?? It would make far more sense to do that than to play some games and not others!!! Especially given the pandemic that's been going on, I am sure fans and alumni would be very understanding.

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I think it’s a low class move by the SEC to not play the ACC instate rivalry games. If this was the year that the SEC was hosting 3 of the 4 (rather that 1 of the 4) these games would still be on the schedule.
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