(07-18-2020 11:24 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 06:04 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:54 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  ...
That's right. Probably some activity still there by way of a "center", but the main campus is now in Edinburg.
....

I work at UTRGV and calling Edinburg the "main campus" gets you called in to your supervisor's office. Officially we're all equal, because people in Brownsville get upset otherwise. Brownsville students, Brownsville faculty, Brownsville politicians, and most especially the Brownsville-based legislators that get to vote on our budget.

Of course off the record you're completely right. Edinburg has more students, more facilities, more faculty with base offices there, and more programs offered. Prior to the merger there was no doubt that UTPA was bigger, more stable, and better academically than UTB, although neither one was top tier if we're being honest about it.

So, there are still classes being held in Brownsville? How far apart are the two campuses?

In the LA/OC area, you have Cal Poly Pomona and Cal St. Fullerton that are 15-20 miles apart. Cal St. LA and CP Pomona are also about 20 miles from each other. But, none of those campuses are thinking about combining.

Lol in LA Metro 15-20 miles apart = 1-2 hour drive apart.

Had to google it: Cal Poly has different offerings than a Cal St school.

"The key difference between a Cal State school and a Cal Poly school lies in their academic offerings. Both Cal Poly schools focus on academic programs in applied sciences and technical arts. Students at CSU's polytechnic universities generally go on to careers in the scientific or technical world"

(07-18-2020 03:37 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 03:23 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:56 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:36 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:25 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Who's "they"?

A&M CC and the hypothetical merger school

You"d have a completely new institution, but still an A&M school, and the A&M Chancellor has made no bones about how much he prefers the WAC over the SLC.

You keep bring up the A&M Chancellor and his preference for the WAC. Is the chancellor selected or elected? How long is his term? How long has he been there? I ask because if/when he leaves, the new chancellor may have a totally different viewpoint. Or the covid situation changes the current chancellor's viewpoint.

I thinknthe covid situation only solidifies his stance for a merger. As far as his WAC>SLC preference I could only speculate if it would be shared by his successor, whomever that may be. You have to ask yourself, why would they choose SLC over WAC? Nothing there except a bloated league full of same ol' same ol' schools. The Louisana schools are on the brink of collapse. WAC has more upside, and has UTRGV in it. What if Commerce and WT moved up to the WAC. Just makes more sense when you look at the big picture.

Why then hasn't WT and Commerce made the move to D1? How far along are they in making the decision to move up? Have they even done a study? Have they done a study, and much like UTRGV football, done nothing to start the process of moving up? For that matter, what LSC members have done a study on moving up to D1 within the past 5-7 years?

(07-18-2020 11:42 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 03:37 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 03:23 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:56 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:36 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  A&M CC and the hypothetical merger school

You"d have a completely new institution, but still an A&M school, and the A&M Chancellor has made no bones about how much he prefers the WAC over the SLC.

You keep bring up the A&M Chancellor and his preference for the WAC. Is the chancellor selected or elected? How long is his term? How long has he been there? I ask because if/when he leaves, the new chancellor may have a totally different viewpoint. Or the covid situation changes the current chancellor's viewpoint.

I thinknthe covid situation only solidifies his stance for a merger. As far as his WAC>SLC preference I could only speculate if it would be shared by his successor, whomever that may be. You have to ask yourself, why would they choose SLC over WAC? Nothing there except a bloated league full of same ol' same ol' schools. The Louisana schools are on the brink of collapse. WAC has more upside, and has UTRGV in it. What if Commerce and WT moved up to the WAC. Just makes more sense when you look at the big picture.

Why then hasn't WT and Commerce made the move to D1? How far along are they in making the decision to move up? Have they even done a study? Have they done a study, and much like UTRGV football, done nothing to start the process of moving up? For that matter, what LSC members have done a study on moving up to D1 within the past 5-7 years?

Haven't been invited. As Tarleton learned with the SLC, thats the first, and most important step. WT (West TX State) has been D1 before. Commerce is busting at the D2 seams, much like Tarleton was. Doesn't take long to do a study and make a move if you have the money and support. Everything being discussed, in my mind, is a 2-4 year proposition. It would make sense to do some watching and learning as Tarleton completes its transition. Don't count out Angelo as a prospect with their TTU support.

(07-18-2020 11:24 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 06:04 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:54 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  ...
That's right. Probably some activity still there by way of a "center", but the main campus is now in Edinburg.
....

I work at UTRGV and calling Edinburg the "main campus" gets you called in to your supervisor's office. Officially we're all equal, because people in Brownsville get upset otherwise. Brownsville students, Brownsville faculty, Brownsville politicians, and most especially the Brownsville-based legislators that get to vote on our budget.

Of course off the record you're completely right. Edinburg has more students, more facilities, more faculty with base offices there, and more programs offered. Prior to the merger there was no doubt that UTPA was bigger, more stable, and better academically than UTB, although neither one was top tier if we're being honest about it.

So, there are still classes being held in Brownsville? How far apart are the two campuses?

In the LA/OC area, you have Cal Poly Pomona and Cal St. Fullerton that are 15-20 miles apart. Cal St. LA and CP Pomona are also about 20 miles from each other. But, none of those campuses are thinking about combining.

67 miles Edinburg to Brownsville. It was an idea driven by people from outside the valley (a) who didn't realize it's not really commuting distance, (b) were taken in by consultants who kept saying location doesn't matter because "Internet", (c ) didn't understand that people's loyalty to their local school can't be reassigned by writing an executive memo telling them to be loyal to something else, and (d) didn't really give a **** about us anyway.

Yes, we're still bitter, and you can still see Broncs T-shirts around here.

TAMUCC and TAMUK combining might make for interesting fantasy conference realignments, but it would be bad for the students and the community. Don't do it.

(07-19-2020 11:10 AM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 11:24 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 06:04 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:54 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  ...
That's right. Probably some activity still there by way of a "center", but the main campus is now in Edinburg.
....

I work at UTRGV and calling Edinburg the "main campus" gets you called in to your supervisor's office. Officially we're all equal, because people in Brownsville get upset otherwise. Brownsville students, Brownsville faculty, Brownsville politicians, and most especially the Brownsville-based legislators that get to vote on our budget.

Of course off the record you're completely right. Edinburg has more students, more facilities, more faculty with base offices there, and more programs offered. Prior to the merger there was no doubt that UTPA was bigger, more stable, and better academically than UTB, although neither one was top tier if we're being honest about it.

So, there are still classes being held in Brownsville? How far apart are the two campuses?

In the LA/OC area, you have Cal Poly Pomona and Cal St. Fullerton that are 15-20 miles apart. Cal St. LA and CP Pomona are also about 20 miles from each other. But, none of those campuses are thinking about combining.

67 miles Edinburg to Brownsville. It was an idea driven by people from outside the valley (a) who didn't realize it's not really commuting distance, (b) were taken in by consultants who kept saying location doesn't matter because "Internet", and (c ) didn't really give a **** about us anyway.

TAMUCC and TAMUK combining might make for interesting fantasy conference realignments, but it would be bad for the students and the community. Don't do it.

Wow I had no idea Edinburg and Brownsville were that far apart. I guess I just assumed that since the schools merged that they were pretty close to each other. Definitely doesnt really seem feasible to merge schools unless theyre within 10 miles or so.

How had the merger gone in your opinion? Do the students and locals still the schools as individuals?

(07-19-2020 11:15 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(07-19-2020 11:10 AM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 11:24 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 06:04 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:54 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  ...
That's right. Probably some activity still there by way of a "center", but the main campus is now in Edinburg.
....

I work at UTRGV and calling Edinburg the "main campus" gets you called in to your supervisor's office. Officially we're all equal, because people in Brownsville get upset otherwise. Brownsville students, Brownsville faculty, Brownsville politicians, and most especially the Brownsville-based legislators that get to vote on our budget.

Of course off the record you're completely right. Edinburg has more students, more facilities, more faculty with base offices there, and more programs offered. Prior to the merger there was no doubt that UTPA was bigger, more stable, and better academically than UTB, although neither one was top tier if we're being honest about it.

So, there are still classes being held in Brownsville? How far apart are the two campuses?

In the LA/OC area, you have Cal Poly Pomona and Cal St. Fullerton that are 15-20 miles apart. Cal St. LA and CP Pomona are also about 20 miles from each other. But, none of those campuses are thinking about combining.

67 miles Edinburg to Brownsville. It was an idea driven by people from outside the valley (a) who didn't realize it's not really commuting distance, (b) were taken in by consultants who kept saying location doesn't matter because "Internet", and (c ) didn't really give a **** about us anyway.

TAMUCC and TAMUK combining might make for interesting fantasy conference realignments, but it would be bad for the students and the community. Don't do it.

Wow I had no idea Edinburg and Brownsville were that far apart. I guess I just assumed that since the schools merged that they were pretty close to each other. Definitely doesnt really seem feasible to merge schools unless theyre within 10 miles or so.

How had the merger gone in your opinion? Do the students and locals still the schools as individuals?

Badly. You aren't going to find many people who were at UTB or UTPA who think it was good idea, all the boosters are people imported to run the "new" university.

You can't reassign personal loyalties and commitments - at least not the kind that are worth anything - with an executive memo telling people to be loyal to something else. Yes, we're still bitter, and you can still see a lot of Broncs T-shirts in Edinburg.

I suppose with time it will change. The new freshmen seem to identify with the Vaquero brand. But despite untold amounts of money going into the "We Are One" marketing campaign, and stunts like a virtual doorway between the two student unions, the students also definitely define themselves as Brownsville or Edinburg and get their backs up if they perceive their campus being slighted.

Which is why supervisors have to clamp down on any talk of a "main campus".

(07-19-2020 11:10 AM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 11:24 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 06:04 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:54 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  ...
That's right. Probably some activity still there by way of a "center", but the main campus is now in Edinburg.
....

I work at UTRGV and calling Edinburg the "main campus" gets you called in to your supervisor's office. Officially we're all equal, because people in Brownsville get upset otherwise. Brownsville students, Brownsville faculty, Brownsville politicians, and most especially the Brownsville-based legislators that get to vote on our budget.

Of course off the record you're completely right. Edinburg has more students, more facilities, more faculty with base offices there, and more programs offered. Prior to the merger there was no doubt that UTPA was bigger, more stable, and better academically than UTB, although neither one was top tier if we're being honest about it.

So, there are still classes being held in Brownsville? How far apart are the two campuses?

In the LA/OC area, you have Cal Poly Pomona and Cal St. Fullerton that are 15-20 miles apart. Cal St. LA and CP Pomona are also about 20 miles from each other. But, none of those campuses are thinking about combining.

67 miles Edinburg to Brownsville. It was an idea driven by people from outside the valley (a) who didn't realize it's not really commuting distance, (b) were taken in by consultants who kept saying location doesn't matter because "Internet", (c ) didn't understand that people's loyalty to their local school can't be reassigned by writing an executive memo telling them to be loyal to something else, and (d) didn't really give a **** about us anyway.

Yes, we're still bitter, and you can still see Broncs T-shirts around here.

TAMUCC and TAMUK combining might make for interesting fantasy conference realignments, but it would be bad for the students and the community. Don't do it.

I was told the RGV had about 500K people!! That's a lot of people for just one school to serve! Did Brownsville have an athletics program? What happened to their coaches and players?

Northridge in the Big West is in the San Fernando Valley-which has about 2M people, but of course UCLA and USC are the schools that get the fans and news coverage.

How far is UTRGV to Tarleton?

I would be interesting to put all the LSC and WAC schools on a map and see the mileage chart.

(07-19-2020 05:41 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-19-2020 11:10 AM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 11:24 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 06:04 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:54 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  ...
That's right. Probably some activity still there by way of a "center", but the main campus is now in Edinburg.
....

I work at UTRGV and calling Edinburg the "main campus" gets you called in to your supervisor's office. Officially we're all equal, because people in Brownsville get upset otherwise. Brownsville students, Brownsville faculty, Brownsville politicians, and most especially the Brownsville-based legislators that get to vote on our budget.

Of course off the record you're completely right. Edinburg has more students, more facilities, more faculty with base offices there, and more programs offered. Prior to the merger there was no doubt that UTPA was bigger, more stable, and better academically than UTB, although neither one was top tier if we're being honest about it.

So, there are still classes being held in Brownsville? How far apart are the two campuses?

In the LA/OC area, you have Cal Poly Pomona and Cal St. Fullerton that are 15-20 miles apart. Cal St. LA and CP Pomona are also about 20 miles from each other. But, none of those campuses are thinking about combining.

67 miles Edinburg to Brownsville. It was an idea driven by people from outside the valley (a) who didn't realize it's not really commuting distance, (b) were taken in by consultants who kept saying location doesn't matter because "Internet", (c ) didn't understand that people's loyalty to their local school can't be reassigned by writing an executive memo telling them to be loyal to something else, and (d) didn't really give a **** about us anyway.

Yes, we're still bitter, and you can still see Broncs T-shirts around here.

TAMUCC and TAMUK combining might make for interesting fantasy conference realignments, but it would be bad for the students and the community. Don't do it.

I was told the RGV had about 500K people!! That's a lot of people for just one school to serve!

Northridge in the Big West is in the San Fernando Valley-which has about 2M people, but of course UCLA and USC are the schools that get the fans and news coverage.

How far is UTRGV to Tarleton?

I would be interesting to put all the LSC and WAC schools on a map and see the mileage chart.

Now you're talkin! WAC has two major geograhical outliers in Seattle and Chi State. If Hurd could replace those two with a couple of financially healthy football-playing moveups from the LSC, you can see how the LSC could help the WAC increase its footprint further into Texas, which tightens things up in the Western-Southwestern region. The LSC and the SLC are bloated, as is the Big Sky. Somewhere within those 3 conferences lies the answer to WAC's football conundrum.

(07-19-2020 05:41 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-19-2020 11:10 AM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 11:24 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 06:04 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:54 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  ...
That's right. Probably some activity still there by way of a "center", but the main campus is now in Edinburg.
....

I work at UTRGV and calling Edinburg the "main campus" gets you called in to your supervisor's office. Officially we're all equal, because people in Brownsville get upset otherwise. Brownsville students, Brownsville faculty, Brownsville politicians, and most especially the Brownsville-based legislators that get to vote on our budget.

Of course off the record you're completely right. Edinburg has more students, more facilities, more faculty with base offices there, and more programs offered. Prior to the merger there was no doubt that UTPA was bigger, more stable, and better academically than UTB, although neither one was top tier if we're being honest about it.

So, there are still classes being held in Brownsville? How far apart are the two campuses?

In the LA/OC area, you have Cal Poly Pomona and Cal St. Fullerton that are 15-20 miles apart. Cal St. LA and CP Pomona are also about 20 miles from each other. But, none of those campuses are thinking about combining.

67 miles Edinburg to Brownsville. It was an idea driven by people from outside the valley (a) who didn't realize it's not really commuting distance, (b) were taken in by consultants who kept saying location doesn't matter because "Internet", (c ) didn't understand that people's loyalty to their local school can't be reassigned by writing an executive memo telling them to be loyal to something else, and (d) didn't really give a **** about us anyway.

Yes, we're still bitter, and you can still see Broncs T-shirts around here.

TAMUCC and TAMUK combining might make for interesting fantasy conference realignments, but it would be bad for the students and the community. Don't do it.

I was told the RGV had about 500K people!! That's a lot of people for just one school to serve! Did Brownsville have an athletics program? What happened to their coaches and players?

Northridge in the Big West is in the San Fernando Valley-which has about 2M people, but of course UCLA and USC are the schools that get the fans and news coverage.

How far is UTRGV to Tarleton?

I would be interesting to put all the LSC and WAC schools on a map and see the mileage chart.

According to Google Tarleton is 7 hours and 17 minutes from UTRGV.

From Tarleton to NMSU is 8 hours 24 minutes. Man these WAC distances are crazy! I thought we had it bad in the Sun Belt.

Looks like the farthest Lone Star school from Tarleton is Western NM at around 10 hours and the farthest Southland school would be Nicholls State at almost 9 hours.

(07-19-2020 05:41 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-19-2020 11:10 AM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 11:24 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 06:04 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:54 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  ...
That's right. Probably some activity still there by way of a "center", but the main campus is now in Edinburg.
....

I work at UTRGV and calling Edinburg the "main campus" gets you called in to your supervisor's office. Officially we're all equal, because people in Brownsville get upset otherwise. Brownsville students, Brownsville faculty, Brownsville politicians, and most especially the Brownsville-based legislators that get to vote on our budget.

Of course off the record you're completely right. Edinburg has more students, more facilities, more faculty with base offices there, and more programs offered. Prior to the merger there was no doubt that UTPA was bigger, more stable, and better academically than UTB, although neither one was top tier if we're being honest about it.

So, there are still classes being held in Brownsville? How far apart are the two campuses?

In the LA/OC area, you have Cal Poly Pomona and Cal St. Fullerton that are 15-20 miles apart. Cal St. LA and CP Pomona are also about 20 miles from each other. But, none of those campuses are thinking about combining.

67 miles Edinburg to Brownsville. It was an idea driven by people from outside the valley (a) who didn't realize it's not really commuting distance, (b) were taken in by consultants who kept saying location doesn't matter because "Internet", (c ) didn't understand that people's loyalty to their local school can't be reassigned by writing an executive memo telling them to be loyal to something else, and (d) didn't really give a **** about us anyway.

Yes, we're still bitter, and you can still see Broncs T-shirts around here.

TAMUCC and TAMUK combining might make for interesting fantasy conference realignments, but it would be bad for the students and the community. Don't do it.

I was told the RGV had about 500K people!! That's a lot of people for just one school to serve! Did Brownsville have an athletics program? What happened to their coaches and players?

Northridge in the Big West is in the San Fernando Valley-which has about 2M people, but of course UCLA and USC are the schools that get the fans and news coverage.

How far is UTRGV to Tarleton?

I would be interesting to put all the LSC and WAC schools on a map and see the mileage chart.

Actually the rgv as a whole has around 1.3 million people. There's an A&M campus that's growing here as well.

Brownsville had an NAIA program but not really a whole lot of sports. Not sure what happened to the students but they probably transferred. The coaches got let go. Our current volleyball coach is the only one that got brought back.

(07-19-2020 06:34 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(07-19-2020 05:41 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-19-2020 11:10 AM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 11:24 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 06:04 PM)edinburger Wrote:  I work at UTRGV and calling Edinburg the "main campus" gets you called in to your supervisor's office. Officially we're all equal, because people in Brownsville get upset otherwise. Brownsville students, Brownsville faculty, Brownsville politicians, and most especially the Brownsville-based legislators that get to vote on our budget.

Of course off the record you're completely right. Edinburg has more students, more facilities, more faculty with base offices there, and more programs offered. Prior to the merger there was no doubt that UTPA was bigger, more stable, and better academically than UTB, although neither one was top tier if we're being honest about it.

So, there are still classes being held in Brownsville? How far apart are the two campuses?

In the LA/OC area, you have Cal Poly Pomona and Cal St. Fullerton that are 15-20 miles apart. Cal St. LA and CP Pomona are also about 20 miles from each other. But, none of those campuses are thinking about combining.

67 miles Edinburg to Brownsville. It was an idea driven by people from outside the valley (a) who didn't realize it's not really commuting distance, (b) were taken in by consultants who kept saying location doesn't matter because "Internet", (c ) didn't understand that people's loyalty to their local school can't be reassigned by writing an executive memo telling them to be loyal to something else, and (d) didn't really give a **** about us anyway.

Yes, we're still bitter, and you can still see Broncs T-shirts around here.

TAMUCC and TAMUK combining might make for interesting fantasy conference realignments, but it would be bad for the students and the community. Don't do it.

I was told the RGV had about 500K people!! That's a lot of people for just one school to serve! Did Brownsville have an athletics program? What happened to their coaches and players?

Northridge in the Big West is in the San Fernando Valley-which has about 2M people, but of course UCLA and USC are the schools that get the fans and news coverage.

How far is UTRGV to Tarleton?

I would be interesting to put all the LSC and WAC schools on a map and see the mileage chart.

According to Google Tarleton is 7 hours and 17 minutes from UTRGV.

From Tarleton to NMSU is 8 hours 24 minutes. Man these WAC distances are crazy! I thought we had it bad in the Sun Belt.

Looks like the farthest Lone Star school from Tarleton is Western NM at around 10 hours and the farthest Southland school would be Nicholls State at almost 9 hours.

With COVID19 running rampant, every program wants to be in a bus league. However, before COVID19, the one good thing about the WAC was most of the programs were located fairly close to major airports for easy travel. Tarleton State is now the most secluded school in the WAC.

(07-19-2020 08:15 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  

(07-19-2020 06:34 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(07-19-2020 05:41 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-19-2020 11:10 AM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 11:24 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  So, there are still classes being held in Brownsville? How far apart are the two campuses?

In the LA/OC area, you have Cal Poly Pomona and Cal St. Fullerton that are 15-20 miles apart. Cal St. LA and CP Pomona are also about 20 miles from each other. But, none of those campuses are thinking about combining.

67 miles Edinburg to Brownsville. It was an idea driven by people from outside the valley (a) who didn't realize it's not really commuting distance, (b) were taken in by consultants who kept saying location doesn't matter because "Internet", (c ) didn't understand that people's loyalty to their local school can't be reassigned by writing an executive memo telling them to be loyal to something else, and (d) didn't really give a **** about us anyway.

Yes, we're still bitter, and you can still see Broncs T-shirts around here.

TAMUCC and TAMUK combining might make for interesting fantasy conference realignments, but it would be bad for the students and the community. Don't do it.

I was told the RGV had about 500K people!! That's a lot of people for just one school to serve! Did Brownsville have an athletics program? What happened to their coaches and players?

Northridge in the Big West is in the San Fernando Valley-which has about 2M people, but of course UCLA and USC are the schools that get the fans and news coverage.

How far is UTRGV to Tarleton?

I would be interesting to put all the LSC and WAC schools on a map and see the mileage chart.

According to Google Tarleton is 7 hours and 17 minutes from UTRGV.

From Tarleton to NMSU is 8 hours 24 minutes. Man these WAC distances are crazy! I thought we had it bad in the Sun Belt.

Looks like the farthest Lone Star school from Tarleton is Western NM at around 10 hours and the farthest Southland school would be Nicholls State at almost 9 hours.

With COVID19 running rampant, every program wants to be in a bus league. However, before COVID19, the one good thing about the WAC was most of the programs were located fairly close to major airports for easy travel. Tarleton State is now the most secluded school in the WAC.

People have been saying the same thing about SFA for decades. They manage. Price you pay for a safe college town environment.

States, schools and cities in the west and southwest are always going to be much further apart than what you see on the east coast. That's just the way it is. 7-10 hours apart is nothing in the west. That's actually a pretty close distance.

(07-20-2020 09:45 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  States, schools and cities in the west and southwest are always going to be much further apart than what you see on the east coast. That's just the way it is. 7-10 hours apart is nothing in the west. That's actually a pretty close distance.

I think we all get that, but even then relatively close does not equal actually close. By your standards then I am pretty close to Las Cruces, but I would not want to spontaneously make that drive. I doubt driving 7-10 hours is something y'all do on a whim, but maybe you do. Regardless, it is what it is.

(07-20-2020 10:43 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 09:45 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  States, schools and cities in the west and southwest are always going to be much further apart than what you see on the east coast. That's just the way it is. 7-10 hours apart is nothing in the west. That's actually a pretty close distance.

I think we all get that, but even then relatively close does not equal actually close. By your standards then I am pretty close to Las Cruces, but I would not want to spontaneously make that drive. I doubt driving 7-10 hours is something y'all do on a whim, but maybe you do. Regardless, it is what it is.

Four hours I do on a whim. Seven to 10 hours I have to think about a little. Twelve or more I usually plan ahead.

(07-20-2020 11:44 AM)NotANewbie Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 10:43 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 09:45 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  States, schools and cities in the west and southwest are always going to be much further apart than what you see on the east coast. That's just the way it is. 7-10 hours apart is nothing in the west. That's actually a pretty close distance.

I think we all get that, but even then relatively close does not equal actually close. By your standards then I am pretty close to Las Cruces, but I would not want to spontaneously make that drive. I doubt driving 7-10 hours is something y'all do on a whim, but maybe you do. Regardless, it is what it is.

Four hours I do on a whim. Seven to 10 hours I have to think about a little. Twelve or more I usually plan ahead.

Exactly. I drive to Las Vegas (8 hours), Phoenix (7) and Los Angeles (10-11) pretty regularly. My wife, on Mother's Day, wanted to do a day trip to Las Cruces (3) just to eat lunch and grab some custard. I've driven to Amarillo (4) and back in one day.

(07-20-2020 01:37 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 11:44 AM)NotANewbie Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 10:43 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 09:45 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  States, schools and cities in the west and southwest are always going to be much further apart than what you see on the east coast. That's just the way it is. 7-10 hours apart is nothing in the west. That's actually a pretty close distance.

I think we all get that, but even then relatively close does not equal actually close. By your standards then I am pretty close to Las Cruces, but I would not want to spontaneously make that drive. I doubt driving 7-10 hours is something y'all do on a whim, but maybe you do. Regardless, it is what it is.

Four hours I do on a whim. Seven to 10 hours I have to think about a little. Twelve or more I usually plan ahead.

Exactly. I drive to Las Vegas (8 hours), Phoenix (7) and Los Angeles (10-11) pretty regularly. My wife, on Mother's Day, wanted to do a day trip to Las Cruces (3) just to eat lunch and grab some custard. I've driven to Amarillo (4) and back in one day.

A wife who wants to do random road trips to college towns. Where do people find these amazing bachelorettes?

(I spend nearly every weekend September to March driving to college FB/BB games -- praying that's permitted next time I'm in a relationship)

(07-20-2020 01:51 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 01:37 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 11:44 AM)NotANewbie Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 10:43 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 09:45 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  States, schools and cities in the west and southwest are always going to be much further apart than what you see on the east coast. That's just the way it is. 7-10 hours apart is nothing in the west. That's actually a pretty close distance.

I think we all get that, but even then relatively close does not equal actually close. By your standards then I am pretty close to Las Cruces, but I would not want to spontaneously make that drive. I doubt driving 7-10 hours is something y'all do on a whim, but maybe you do. Regardless, it is what it is.

Four hours I do on a whim. Seven to 10 hours I have to think about a little. Twelve or more I usually plan ahead.

Exactly. I drive to Las Vegas (8 hours), Phoenix (7) and Los Angeles (10-11) pretty regularly. My wife, on Mother's Day, wanted to do a day trip to Las Cruces (3) just to eat lunch and grab some custard. I've driven to Amarillo (4) and back in one day.

A wife who wants to do random road trips to college towns. Where do people find these amazing bachelorettes?

(I spend nearly every weekend September to March driving to college FB/BB games -- praying that's permitted next time I'm in a relationship)

Ha! Growing up and even now, everything is far way. I have to drive far for everything. Good luck with your chica!

(07-18-2020 11:32 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 11:24 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 06:04 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:54 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  ...
That's right. Probably some activity still there by way of a "center", but the main campus is now in Edinburg.
....

I work at UTRGV and calling Edinburg the "main campus" gets you called in to your supervisor's office. Officially we're all equal, because people in Brownsville get upset otherwise. Brownsville students, Brownsville faculty, Brownsville politicians, and most especially the Brownsville-based legislators that get to vote on our budget.

Of course off the record you're completely right. Edinburg has more students, more facilities, more faculty with base offices there, and more programs offered. Prior to the merger there was no doubt that UTPA was bigger, more stable, and better academically than UTB, although neither one was top tier if we're being honest about it.

So, there are still classes being held in Brownsville? How far apart are the two campuses?

In the LA/OC area, you have Cal Poly Pomona and Cal St. Fullerton that are 15-20 miles apart. Cal St. LA and CP Pomona are also about 20 miles from each other. But, none of those campuses are thinking about combining.

Lol in LA Metro 15-20 miles apart = 1-2 hour drive apart.

Had to google it: Cal Poly has different offerings than a Cal St school.

"The key difference between a Cal State school and a Cal Poly school lies in their academic offerings. Both Cal Poly schools focus on academic programs in applied sciences and technical arts. Students at CSU's polytechnic universities generally go on to careers in the scientific or technical world"

All three schools are part of the Cal State system.

(07-20-2020 02:40 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 11:32 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 11:24 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 06:04 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(07-18-2020 02:54 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  ...
That's right. Probably some activity still there by way of a "center", but the main campus is now in Edinburg.
....

I work at UTRGV and calling Edinburg the "main campus" gets you called in to your supervisor's office. Officially we're all equal, because people in Brownsville get upset otherwise. Brownsville students, Brownsville faculty, Brownsville politicians, and most especially the Brownsville-based legislators that get to vote on our budget.

Of course off the record you're completely right. Edinburg has more students, more facilities, more faculty with base offices there, and more programs offered. Prior to the merger there was no doubt that UTPA was bigger, more stable, and better academically than UTB, although neither one was top tier if we're being honest about it.

So, there are still classes being held in Brownsville? How far apart are the two campuses?

In the LA/OC area, you have Cal Poly Pomona and Cal St. Fullerton that are 15-20 miles apart. Cal St. LA and CP Pomona are also about 20 miles from each other. But, none of those campuses are thinking about combining.

Lol in LA Metro 15-20 miles apart = 1-2 hour drive apart.

Had to google it: Cal Poly has different offerings than a Cal St school.

"The key difference between a Cal State school and a Cal Poly school lies in their academic offerings. Both Cal Poly schools focus on academic programs in applied sciences and technical arts. Students at CSU's polytechnic universities generally go on to careers in the scientific or technical world"

All three schools are part of the Cal State system.

Bingo.