...with non conference games but it depends on an enclosed system.....

So the AAC goes to

UConn
UMass
BYU
Army
Liberty
NMSU

and tells them “If your willing to play us EXCLUSIVELY then we can provide you a (kinda) full schedule. They would all be stupid not to take it. To be sure - they are NOT in the conference but they play ALL AAC teams then we could come up with actual decent non-conference games. hell, we’re all playing FCS schools anyway.

It would be the most interesting and forward thinking thing the AAC ever did and would also help ensure Army-Navy.

No thanks

At this point I’d just prefer to follow the trends and play conference only. Provide just enough games to fulfill the ESPN contract and have a logical champion crowned. Think 10-game conference only fulfills that.

I’d allow BYU or Army with the contingency that they accepted a membership invite and were planning to join the conference in the near future.

UConn, UMass, Liberty, and NMSU add no value in my opinion. This is one of the risks of being an Indy. They made their bed, time to lay in it.

Why would you want to save non conference games if you can’t play a P5 team?

Why all 6 when you can offer it to fewer (1? 2?) and guarantee them a fuller schedule.

We won't need any OCC nor in conference games this year.

(07-12-2020 10:50 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  ...with non conference games but it depends on an enclosed system.....

So the AAC goes to

UConn
UMass
BYU
Army
Liberty
NMSU

and tells them “If your willing to play us EXCLUSIVELY then we can provide you a (kinda) full schedule. They would all be stupid not to take it. To be sure - they are NOT in the conference but they play ALL AAC teams then we could come up with actual decent non-conference games. hell, we’re all playing FCS schools anyway.

It would be the most interesting and forward thinking thing the AAC ever did and would also help ensure Army-Navy.

As far as SMU is concerned, we would be better off playing our 8 game conference schedule plus TCU and North Texas. I’m sure the other members could pick their best two OOC opponents to make a 10 game schedule with minimum travel. That would allow some flexibility for Covid-19 problems.

(07-13-2020 05:18 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Why would you want to save non conference games if you can’t play a P5 team?

Money. College athletics is hemorrhaging it right now and it’s only going to get worse. Simply put, more games is better than less games financially speaking.

Quote:Why all 6 when you can offer it to fewer

Right - Offer it to as many as you need, but get to a full 12 game schedule.

Quote:As far as SMU is concerned, we would be better off playing our 8 game conference schedule plus TCU and North Texas

Yeah, but that’s not going to happen this year. Schedules are going to have to be round-robin, closed loop, everyone-plays-the-same-team style formats due to detection and the risk of infection.

It’s not time to be petty - we are going to need games, and badly. It’s better to play the likes of UMass than a 10 game season.

(07-12-2020 10:50 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  ...with non conference games but it depends on an enclosed system.....

So the AAC goes to

UConn
UMass
BYU
Army
Liberty
NMSU

and tells them “If your willing to play us EXCLUSIVELY then we can provide you a (kinda) full schedule. They would all be stupid not to take it. To be sure - they are NOT in the conference but they play ALL AAC teams then we could come up with actual decent non-conference games. hell, we’re all playing FCS schools anyway.

It would be the most interesting and forward thinking thing the AAC ever did and would also help ensure Army-Navy.

I don't know. Heard them UCONN fans are ********. Both of them.

(07-13-2020 10:09 AM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(07-13-2020 05:18 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Why would you want to save non conference games if you can’t play a P5 team?

Money. College athletics is hemorrhaging it right now and it’s only going to get worse. Simply put, more games is better than less games financially speaking.

Quote:Why all 6 when you can offer it to fewer

Right - Offer it to as many as you need, but get to a full 12 game schedule.

Quote:As far as SMU is concerned, we would be better off playing our 8 game conference schedule plus TCU and North Texas

Yeah, but that’s not going to happen this year. Schedules are going to have to be round-robin, closed loop, everyone-plays-the-same-team style formats due to detection and the risk of infection.

It’s not time to be petty - we are going to need games, and badly. It’s better to play the likes of UMass than a 10 game season.

If you really want 12 games...
I’d prefer conference only and then expand the conference championship to a tournament if possible.

10 game round robin with a 8-team conference tournament

Champ still gets 13 games

We will not play Liberty

(07-13-2020 10:38 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  If you really want 12 games...
I’d prefer conference only and then expand the conference championship to a tournament if possible.

10 game round robin with a 8-team conference tournament

Champ still gets 13 games

Not a bad idea; 4 might be more appealing competitively and for TV purposes. Plus, there are hopes 1 game could be reserved for National Quarterfinals.

I want conference only if that is the other option. Playing 10 games gives us a lot more flexibility with bye weeks, and we're going to need that flexibility if any games have to be postponed due to a roster outbreak.

(07-13-2020 10:38 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(07-13-2020 10:09 AM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(07-13-2020 05:18 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Why would you want to save non conference games if you can’t play a P5 team?

Money. College athletics is hemorrhaging it right now and it’s only going to get worse. Simply put, more games is better than less games financially speaking.

Quote:Why all 6 when you can offer it to fewer

Right - Offer it to as many as you need, but get to a full 12 game schedule.

Quote:As far as SMU is concerned, we would be better off playing our 8 game conference schedule plus TCU and North Texas

Yeah, but that’s not going to happen this year. Schedules are going to have to be round-robin, closed loop, everyone-plays-the-same-team style formats due to detection and the risk of infection.

It’s not time to be petty - we are going to need games, and badly. It’s better to play the likes of UMass than a 10 game season.

If you really want 12 games...
I’d prefer conference only and then expand the conference championship to a tournament if possible.

10 game round robin with a 8-team conference tournament

Champ still gets 13 games

That would be pretty cool. Could even have the 9 through 11 teams play a round-robin to get to their 12 games. Still think we're going to need the flexibility that a reduced schedule provides though.

(07-13-2020 10:58 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  We will not play Liberty

Yeah, I want nothing to do with that cult. Not to mention, they have more-or-less been business as usual despite COVID, so there's no way we could count on them to test and sanitize at the level the rest of the AAC will. Out of those 6 options, I would take any 2 of Army, UConn, BYU, and UMass in that order. No interested in NMSU or Liberty.

(07-13-2020 08:57 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(07-12-2020 10:50 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  ...with non conference games but it depends on an enclosed system.....

So the AAC goes to

UConn
UMass
BYU
Army
Liberty
NMSU

and tells them “If your willing to play us EXCLUSIVELY then we can provide you a (kinda) full schedule. They would all be stupid not to take it. To be sure - they are NOT in the conference but they play ALL AAC teams then we could come up with actual decent non-conference games. hell, we’re all playing FCS schools anyway.

It would be the most interesting and forward thinking thing the AAC ever did and would also help ensure Army-Navy.

As far as SMU is concerned, we would be better off playing our 8 game conference schedule plus TCU and North Texas. I’m sure the other members could pick their best two OOC opponents to make a 10 game schedule with minimum travel. That would allow some flexibility for Covid-19 problems.

Not going to work hence the idea of a closed loop system. You could possibly schedule TCU as the last game of the year though. UCONN, UMASS, and NMSU aren't going to be willing to spend the money for the testing supplies needed to make the closed loop system work. Army, Liberty, and BYU would though so it's not a bad idea for them. For those who say "no" and that we should just play an 8 game schedule...why? Isn't more football better?

(07-13-2020 12:18 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(07-13-2020 10:58 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  We will not play Liberty

Yeah, I want nothing to do with that cult. Not to mention, they have more-or-less been business as usual despite COVID, so there's no way we could count on them to test and sanitize at the level the rest of the AAC will. Out of those 6 options, I would take any 2 of Army, UConn, BYU, and UMass in that order. No interested in NMSU or Liberty.

People on here are so funny. You'll gladly schedule BYU but not Liberty. Have you read up on the exploits of Mr. Brigham Young? Did you know until almost the 80's, African Americans couldnt be ordained or put in places of leadership within the church because their spirits were less pure? Want to know how they feel about Native Americans? Homosexuals? Women? However most here convenient overlook that because they are a name brand. Liberty has never practiced or believed in institutional racism or the wholesale slaughter of Native Americans. Some here also don't want any part of Liberty because of their online presence and money printer. Would you turn down Arizona State for the same reason?

I say, let individual colleges be who they are, (Cal, Evergreen State, Liberty, BYU, etc) and play them in sports. Nobody is forced to attend those institutions and we should live and let live, that's the great thing about Freedom. Sorry about the rant, I just love calling out hypocrisy when I see it...carry on.

Why not just approach Army and BYU and play round robin with 13 teams?

(07-13-2020 01:06 PM)Shox Wrote:  

(07-13-2020 12:18 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(07-13-2020 10:58 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  We will not play Liberty

Yeah, I want nothing to do with that cult. Not to mention, they have more-or-less been business as usual despite COVID, so there's no way we could count on them to test and sanitize at the level the rest of the AAC will. Out of those 6 options, I would take any 2 of Army, UConn, BYU, and UMass in that order. No interested in NMSU or Liberty.

People on here are so funny. You'll gladly schedule BYU but not Liberty. Have you read up on the exploits of Mr. Brigham Young? Did you know until almost the 80's, African Americans couldnt be ordained or put in places of leadership within the church because their spirits were less pure? Want to know how they feel about Native Americans? Homosexuals? Women? However most here convenient overlook that because they are a name brand. Liberty has never practiced or believed in institutional racism or the wholesale slaughter of Native Americans. Some here also don't want any part of Liberty because of their online presence and money printer. Would you turn down Arizona State for the same reason?

I say, let individual colleges be who they are, (Cal, Evergreen State, Liberty, BYU, etc) and play them in sports. Nobody is forced to attend those institutions and we should live and let live, that's the great thing about Freedom. Sorry about the rant, I just love calling out hypocrisy when I see it...carry on.

Please show me tangible proof that BYU and the Mormon church is currently openly discriminating against anyone. I don't care about historically, I care about now. Thank you.

It just doesn't matter.

Keep in mind that BYU, and Army, need games... AF, SDSU,, and BSU also need games if the the MW does't go to Conference only games.

(07-13-2020 12:00 PM)Crayton Wrote:  

(07-13-2020 10:38 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  If you really want 12 games...
I’d prefer conference only and then expand the conference championship to a tournament if possible.

10 game round robin with a 8-team conference tournament

Champ still gets 13 games

Not a bad idea; 4 might be more appealing competitively and for TV purposes. Plus, there are hopes 1 game could be reserved for National Quarterfinals.

It's the most interesting in terms of getting a champion, I'll give you that. However, even with an 8 team tourney 3 teams will get shorted 2 games and 4 will get shorted a game.

But honestly, this is entirely about money and I'm not afraid to say that. We will need every game we can get this year and that's why I'm proposing this - we get a full schedule and thus the closest chance we'll have in closing the financial gap that's growing wider by the day. This isn't the time to be petty towards other schools when our own schools are shutting down programs and even Stanford is making serious cuts - it's the time to figure out how to maximize revenue and that's what I'm proposing.