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Ivy League scraps college football and fall sports for 2020, will evaluate feasibility of playing in spring

This move by the Ivy League is the first big domino to fall for the 2020 college football season

By Ben Kercheval & Matt Norlander

The Ivy League has decided that fall sports, including college football, will not be played at its institutions in 2020. The conference announced Wednesday evening that "it will not be possible for Ivy League teams to participate" this fall "as athletics is expected to operate consistent with campus policies, including restrictions on student and staff travel, requirements for social distancing, limits on group gatherings, and regulations for visitors to campus."

The significant move comes as more questions and concerns arise about the feasibility of playing the 2020 college football season amid the coronavirus pandemic. Time is running out for the FBS season to start on time, which is leading many to wonder whether it will ultimately be moved a few months to the spring of 2021.

As to whether the Ivy League would consider playing football or its other fall sports this spring -- a notion considered undesirable by the Power Five conferences as the sport weighs contingency plans -- no decision has been made at this time.

"A decision on the remaining winter and spring sports competition calendar, and on whether fall sport competition would be feasible in the spring, will be determined at a later date," the Ivy League said in a release.

There are also financial considerations to take into account for the Ivy League. The conference loses more money on football than any other sport.

"Football hasn't been decided yet if it would be moved to the spring, but logistically, I don't know how that would work," an Ivy League source told CBS Sports' Matt Norlander. "... You can't move all the sports to the spring; the logistics don't work. The soccer field is the lacrosse field. The scheduling would be a nightmare."

The Ivy League will allow athletes to practice and train as long as they are within each institution's health and safety guidelines. It also announced that athletes will not utilize a season of NCAA eligibility in the fall.

Basketball, the Ivy League's real money-maker, is its only profitable athletic venture. The basketball season is unlikely to start on time, which could eliminate most -- if not all -- of its nonconference games. Ivy League programs bring in anywhere between $400,000-$500,000 annually in guarantees from nonconference games, money that may be gone for the 2020-21 season.

"If things don't get better, we're not even going to pay basketball," the source said. "[Decision makers are] holding out hope we can play basketball."

The Ivy League becomes the first Division I conference to make such a sweeping change. There have been cancellations in college football's lower ranks, including Division II program Morehouse College and at least three Division III schools, but nothing quite like this.

The Ivy league was also the first conference to cancel its tournament on March 10. After initial blowback for supposedly overreacting, the league saw other conferences quickly follow suit once the gravity of the COVID-19 outbreak became clear.

There is resistance to moving the FBS college football season to the spring with doing so being called, among other things, a "last resort" by Penn State athletic director Sandy Barbour. Ask 10 different athletic directors, university presidents or conference commissioners about the most possibility, and you'll likely get a variety of answers.

The NCAA's approved preseason calendar is set to begin in a matter of weeks and camp is scheduled to start back up. However, multiple programs, including Houston, Kansas State and Kansas have already been forced to suspend voluntary workout because of COVID-19 spikes among athletes.

Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said of the upcoming season: "Unless we see a change in the trajectory of the spread of the virus and its impact pretty quickly, I think the situation's a lot more perilous than it was a few weeks ago."

The spike in COVID-19 cases since June has cast more doubt that the upcoming college football season will be played as normal. What that season looks like is still to be determined, though we could have a much clearer idea in the coming weeks.

I have all idea that this is just the first of many such announcements.
Also of note stanford is dropping 11 sports. Of course that is 11 of the 36 they currently sponsor.
For better or worse, I doubt college sports will look familiar going forward.

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It's probably the least shocking that it was THIS league that bailed first.

(07-09-2020 08:57 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  It's probably the least shocking that it was THIS league that bailed first.

They're either ahead of the curve (they were the first to shut down in the spring, too) or overly cautious, depending on your perspective.

I read somewhere that the Ivy League isn't playing any sports until January 1. Given that Basketball is their money maker that's decidedly bad news. No non-conference basketball games will be played by that league.

I'd expect the Patriot League, which looks closely at what the Ivy is doing, to be the next domino to topple. Meaning Navy might not make the trip to Trask for the tournament we're hosting Nov 20-22.

(07-09-2020 09:12 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 08:57 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  It's probably the least shocking that it was THIS league that bailed first.

They're either ahead of the curve (they were the first to shut down in the spring, too) or overly cautious, depending on your perspective.

I read somewhere that the Ivy League isn't playing any sports until January 1. Given that Basketball is their money maker that's decidedly bad news. No non-conference basketball games will be played by that league.

I'd expect the Patriot League, which looks closely at what the Ivy is doing, to be the next domino to topple. Meaning Navy might not make the trip to Trask for the tournament we're hosting Nov 20-22.

I'd hedge to the side of jumping the gun. Maybe the financial hit won't be so big, a lot of those institutions took bailout money.

(07-09-2020 09:31 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  I'd hedge to the side of jumping the gun. Maybe the financial hit won't be so big, a lot of those institutions took bailout money.

True. Plus, you obviously have to factor in that the northeast was hit harder than most. Columbia (NYC), Princeton (NJ), Yale (CT) and Brown (RI) being right at or near the epicenter.

The conference members also have top of the line epidemiology departments who would of course recommend erring on the side of caution anyways.

(07-09-2020 09:12 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 08:57 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  It's probably the least shocking that it was THIS league that bailed first.

They're either ahead of the curve (they were the first to shut down in the spring, too) or overly cautious, depending on your perspective.

I read somewhere that the Ivy League isn't playing any sports until January 1. Given that Basketball is their money maker that's decidedly bad news. No non-conference basketball games will be played by that league.

I'd expect the Patriot League, which looks closely at what the Ivy is doing, to be the next domino to topple. Meaning Navy might not make the trip to Trask for the tournament we're hosting Nov 20-22.

Endowments in the Ivy League total a combined $135 BILLION. Patriot League has a combined endowment total of about 12 BILLION. They don't operate in the same financial universe...

(07-09-2020 05:57 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Endowments in the Ivy League total a combined $135 BILLION. Patriot League has a combined endowment total of about 12 BILLION. They don't operate in the same financial universe...

Of course. I wasn't comparing those leagues to the CAA or other mid-major conferences. But those dominoes impact us, even if only in a small way. As I was saying, Navy is supposed to be on the basketball schedule. That game won't happen if they follow suit with the Ivy League and call off all sporting events until January 1.

(07-09-2020 06:07 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 05:57 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Endowments in the Ivy League total a combined $135 BILLION. Patriot League has a combined endowment total of about 12 BILLION. They don't operate in the same financial universe...

Of course. I wasn't comparing those leagues to the CAA or other mid-major conferences. But those dominoes impact us, even if only in a small way. As I was saying, Navy is supposed to be on the basketball schedule. That game won't happen if they follow suit with the Ivy League and call off all sporting events until January 1.

The Naval Institute doesn't have any real financial concerns either. Once you hit schools like ECU, App State, JMU, etc., they simply cannot afford to lose all the income from student fees, sponsorships and ticket sales for an entire season of football and basketball. It will be the end of their programs unless they seek a bailout from equally broke states.

I hope all the hysterical citizens who are driving this madness are prepared for the world we have to live in. This will destroy everything we've known but internet based businesses, "essential" businesses and government. And by the time they realize we've been had, it will be too late.

Interesting if the ACC does the same as the Big 10. It still looks like a shotgun approach if it's ok for Clemson and Syracuse to travel and play each other, but Clemson and South Carolina can't play each other within the same state. But also the state of South Carolina requires the two schools to play each other. Wondering how that plays out.

What a breakthrough we have discovered that the virus only spreads during non conference games

(07-09-2020 09:01 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Interesting if the ACC does the same as the Big 10. It still looks like a shotgun approach if it's ok for Clemson and Syracuse to travel and play each other, but Clemson and South Carolina can't play each other within the same state. But also the state of South Carolina requires the two schools to play each other. Wondering how that plays out.

Have to back up here. It may not actually be a requirement. But it still may be interesting if they are told they can't play.

(07-10-2020 08:36 AM)Big Alpha Hawk Wrote:  What a breakthrough we have discovered that the virus only spreads during non conference games

Astonishing isn't it.

The ACC and the SEC need to be smart enough to factor in these in state non conference games.

(07-09-2020 08:57 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I hope all the hysterical citizens who are driving this madness are prepared for the world we have to live in. This will destroy everything we've known but internet based businesses, "essential" businesses and government. And by the time they realize we've been had, it will be too late.

If just a minimum of 50 % of people would wear masks we'd be able to mitigate a lot of these potential economic hits. People refusing to simply care about their fellow citizens are doing more to hold the economy back from getting back to some semblance of normalcy, not the "hysterical citizens".

Nope.

I'm going to go ahead and stop this before it gets any further. If your post isn't related to UNCW or in this thread's case, other NCAA leagues that would have a direct impact on UNCW... than the post absolutely doesn't belong here.

If you want to debate the wearing of masks, etc than go post on the site's political forum. This isn't the place for that. This warning stands for everyone. No more posts on the topic unless it relates in someway to UNCW sports.

Fair enough. Hopefully there will be some UNCW sports to talk about this year.

(07-10-2020 01:20 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Fair enough. Hopefully there will be some UNCW sports to talk about this year.

Absolutely. Also, we should all stop complaining about things...

If UNCW can't have a football team, well then nobody should be allowed to play!

(07-10-2020 02:06 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 01:20 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Fair enough. Hopefully there will be some UNCW sports to talk about this year.

Absolutely. Also, we should all stop complaining about things...

If UNCW can't have a football team, well then nobody should be allowed to play!

Good point. Between the concussions issue, the cost of football, and now the pandemic and its economic impact, I'm very glad we don't have football.

I would love to hear from Jimmy Bass on if the university is benefitting from being a non football school at this time since non conference football is in jeopardy for this season. Losing those buy Games is going to sting