(07-07-2020 09:49 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 09:30 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 09:18 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 07:32 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 05:13 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Over in the "what do you do" thread, I'm really surprised more people on here didn't say "epidemiologist."

Interesting point. Because I don’t want to hear epidemiologists tell us when we should open businesses back up, because they are not economists.

Soooo, I guess in your mind ECONOMISTS should be the experts on a Health Care issue . . . . That's Brilliant thinkin' right there.

NEWS FLASH: Virus don't care about your economic plans . . . Don't care about your businesses . . . . Don't care when you want to reopen.

You want Business Back, you want customers to have faith/trust in returning to those businesses . . . .

Get the Virus under Control.

No. I want economists to be the experts on economic issues.

They all agree we’ve wrecked our economy, and we can’t continue to do so.

I don’t think Dr. Joe Blow Virus Alarmist understands the societal fallout from shutting down the economy indefinitely.

Look across the country right now. Murders are sky rocketing in the cities that locked down. This is just the beginning if the country shuts down again.

You want to talk about loss of life? Stop worrying about flu 2.0 and start worrying about Great Depression 2.0.

Geez. Talk about alarmists.

Economists understand we're not going to have a healthy economy without the virus under control. Travel, hospitality, entertainment. If people don't feel safe they're screwed regardless of what the government does. What economists would have liked to have seen was the lockdown actually having been effective while the Federal Government throws the kitchen sink at stimulating the economy. Now we end up with the worst of both worlds where we locked down, the stimulus is wearing out and we're in a worse situation regarding the virus then where we started. Great Depression talk is not much more alarmist than anything epidemiologists are saying.

The Great Depression talk is rooted in fact. Look at where the unemployment rate was trending before the lockdowns were lifted.

We were knocking on the door of Great Depression levels. Had the lockdowns not been lifted, we would have surpassed Great Depression levels easily.

Within a month and a half of locking down, we hit 15% unemployment. 20% is considered a “depression.”

I believe unemployment data a whole lot more than I believe COVID death rate data, which has an inflated numerator, and significantly under reported denominator.

(07-06-2020 07:53 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

During the 1918 Spanish Flu, our grandparents and great grandparents wore masks even to things like football games. I can guarantee they didn’t cry and complain about it like some of us do today. The greatest generation just did what they had to do. They would honestly probably balk at some of the things we make a big stink about today.

Just my two cents.

folks for sure had it rough during that..the "greatest generation" was their kids tho..dad and his generation all born in the early 20's. graduated from high school 1942 and went right into the navy and soon after to a carrier in the pacific. lucky to survive being shot down twice. they struggled thru the depression and then ww2..double whammy..no social media then so didnt matter if they were "uncomfortable"..they sucked it up and got stuff done.

(07-07-2020 09:58 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 09:49 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 09:30 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 09:18 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 07:32 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  Interesting point. Because I don’t want to hear epidemiologists tell us when we should open businesses back up, because they are not economists.

Soooo, I guess in your mind ECONOMISTS should be the experts on a Health Care issue . . . . That's Brilliant thinkin' right there.

NEWS FLASH: Virus don't care about your economic plans . . . Don't care about your businesses . . . . Don't care when you want to reopen.

You want Business Back, you want customers to have faith/trust in returning to those businesses . . . .

Get the Virus under Control.

No. I want economists to be the experts on economic issues.

They all agree we’ve wrecked our economy, and we can’t continue to do so.

I don’t think Dr. Joe Blow Virus Alarmist understands the societal fallout from shutting down the economy indefinitely.

Look across the country right now. Murders are sky rocketing in the cities that locked down. This is just the beginning if the country shuts down again.

You want to talk about loss of life? Stop worrying about flu 2.0 and start worrying about Great Depression 2.0.

Geez. Talk about alarmists.

Economists understand we're not going to have a healthy economy without the virus under control. Travel, hospitality, entertainment. If people don't feel safe they're screwed regardless of what the government does. What economists would have liked to have seen was the lockdown actually having been effective while the Federal Government throws the kitchen sink at stimulating the economy. Now we end up with the worst of both worlds where we locked down, the stimulus is wearing out and we're in a worse situation regarding the virus then where we started. Great Depression talk is not much more alarmist than anything epidemiologists are saying.

The Great Depression talk is rooted in fact. Look at where the unemployment rate was trending before the lockdowns were lifted.

We were knocking on the door of Great Depression levels. Had the lockdowns not been lifted, we would have surpassed Great Depression levels easily.

Within a month and a half of locking down, we hit 15% unemployment. 20% is considered a “depression.”

I believe unemployment data a whole lot more than I believe COVID death rate data, which has an inflated numerator, and significantly under reported denominator.

You can't really compare the great depression due to a complete breakdown of the banking system and stock market crash and a state mandated partial shutdown of the economy in what was otherwise a very good economy based on unemployment numbers. That's just a complete lack of any type of analysis. The lockdowns were always going to be temporary, a bounceback was expected. Now whether we squandered our opportunity to get the virus under some sort of control remains to be seen. It could have been all for naught. Still, so far this is a blip to the economy as opposed to a gapping crater. If you think we're going to be in a recessionary status for a decade (which a comparison to the great depression would require) because of a spike in unemployment due to the fact that almost every state told their citizens to stay home for several weeks then I would say that your economic analysis is about as solid as your epidemiological analysis.

(07-06-2020 07:53 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

During the 1918 Spanish Flu, our grandparents and great grandparents wore masks even to things like football games. I can guarantee they didn’t cry and complain about it like some of us do today. The greatest generation just did what they had to do. They would honestly probably balk at some of the things we make a big stink about today.

Just my two cents.

I see this posted a lot. But never the mention that over 600k deaths came along with that method of thinking. I'm pretty sure many of them would balk at people saying cigarettes are bad for you too but guess what...

This thing is really exposing the ignorance of the US in a major way. While the rest of the modern world has at the very least kept this thing under control, we're a laughing stock. And you see posts in here like this and it makes sense as to why.

(07-07-2020 11:06 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 07:53 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

During the 1918 Spanish Flu, our grandparents and great grandparents wore masks even to things like football games. I can guarantee they didn’t cry and complain about it like some of us do today. The greatest generation just did what they had to do. They would honestly probably balk at some of the things we make a big stink about today.

Just my two cents.

I see this posted a lot. But never the mention that over 600k deaths came along with that method of thinking. I'm pretty sure many of them would balk at people saying cigarettes are bad for you too but guess what...

This thing is really exposing the ignorance of the US in a major way. While the rest of the modern world has at the very least kept this thing under control, we're a laughing stock. And you see posts in here like this and it makes sense as to why.

Things really weren't that different.

Looking at that pic, seems like they are at some sort of sporting event. If they said we could go to sporting events but had to wear a mask, the picture would look exactly the same. The people that wanted to go would adhere to the rule, the ones that didn’t want to play by the rules wouldn’t go. Simple as that.

Also, the shut down was not to control the virus, it was to flatten the curve, which we did. How long do we have to continue to flatten the curve, at some point we must be allowed to continue on with our lives as we see fit. As all the pro-choice people like to say, my body my choice.

(07-07-2020 11:33 AM)Usajags Wrote:  Looking at that pic, seems like they are at some sort of sporting event. If they said we could go to sporting events but had to wear a mask, the picture would look exactly the same. The people that wanted to go would adhere to the rule, the ones that didn’t want to play by the rules wouldn’t go. Simple as that.

Also, the shut down was not to control the virus, it was to flatten the curve, which we did. How long do we have to continue to flatten the curve, at some point we must be allowed to continue on with our lives as we see fit. As all the pro-choice people like to say, my body my choice.

a) Abortion isn't contagious.

b) Controlling the spread of the virus IS flattening the curve. We are currently failing miserably at flattening the curve. Frankly due to lack of individual responsibility and what I see as patriotism. Some people would rather just blame the government though.

(07-07-2020 12:17 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 11:33 AM)Usajags Wrote:  Looking at that pic, seems like they are at some sort of sporting event. If they said we could go to sporting events but had to wear a mask, the picture would look exactly the same. The people that wanted to go would adhere to the rule, the ones that didn’t want to play by the rules wouldn’t go. Simple as that.

Also, the shut down was not to control the virus, it was to flatten the curve, which we did. How long do we have to continue to flatten the curve, at some point we must be allowed to continue on with our lives as we see fit. As all the pro-choice people like to say, my body my choice.

a) Abortion isn't contagious.

b) Controlling the spread of the virus IS flattening the curve. We are currently failing miserably at flattening the curve. Frankly due to lack of individual responsibility and what I see as patriotism. Some people would rather just blame the government though.

It’s pretty damn contagious to at least one other person.

(07-07-2020 11:27 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 11:06 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 07:53 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

During the 1918 Spanish Flu, our grandparents and great grandparents wore masks even to things like football games. I can guarantee they didn’t cry and complain about it like some of us do today. The greatest generation just did what they had to do. They would honestly probably balk at some of the things we make a big stink about today.

Just my two cents.

I see this posted a lot. But never the mention that over 600k deaths came along with that method of thinking. I'm pretty sure many of them would balk at people saying cigarettes are bad for you too but guess what...

This thing is really exposing the ignorance of the US in a major way. While the rest of the modern world has at the very least kept this thing under control, we're a laughing stock. And you see posts in here like this and it makes sense as to why.

Things really weren't that different.

I didn't think Eugene Schmitz was all that interesting of a speaker

(07-07-2020 09:30 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 09:18 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 07:32 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 05:13 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Over in the "what do you do" thread, I'm really surprised more people on here didn't say "epidemiologist."

Interesting point. Because I don’t want to hear epidemiologists tell us when we should open businesses back up, because they are not economists.

Soooo, I guess in your mind ECONOMISTS should be the experts on a Health Care issue . . . . That's Brilliant thinkin' right there.

NEWS FLASH: Virus don't care about your economic plans . . . Don't care about your businesses . . . . Don't care when you want to reopen.

You want Business Back, you want customers to have faith/trust in returning to those businesses . . . .

Get the Virus under Control.

No. I want economists to be the experts on economic issues.

They all agree we’ve wrecked our economy, and we can’t continue to do so.

I don’t think Dr. Joe Blow Virus Alarmist understands the societal fallout from shutting down the economy indefinitely.

Look across the country right now. Murders are sky rocketing in the cities that locked down. This is just the beginning if the country shuts down again.

You want to talk about loss of life? Stop worrying about flu 2.0 and start worrying about Great Depression 2.0.

The US makes up approximately 4.5% of the World's Population, yet we lead the world in COVID cases, approximately 3 million and COVID Deaths, approximately 131,000.

Almost every other country dealing with this thing has managed to get it somewhat under control, flatten the curve, except The U.S.

Here, there is NO unified National Response to this crisis, Probably a major contributing factor to our inability to control the spread of the Disease.

The experts (scientists and Doctors not economists) warned the country that if states tried to open too soon, we'd see this thing spike again . . . . and here we are.

Almost every state that reopened early is seeing COVID spikes, and at least 20 states have now either stopped or reversed their attempted reopenings.

There are Hospitals in Fla. and TX that are rapidly approaching capacity. Your calling this "The Flu 2.0" is amusing, though I doubt Front line Doctors and Nurses who've been fighting this thing day in and day out would see any humor. Many of these people are working double shifts, some away from their families in order to limit infecting them, many have fallen by the wayside. BTW, lose enough Doctors and Nurses, and who is going to take care of the sick and dying? Your economists?

Nobody wants the country in lockdown indefinitely, sorry if this Health Care Emergency is an inconvenience to you. Everyone wants the economy reopened and a return to normalcy. But it's not going to happen just because you want it to, and it's not going to happen by ignoring this Virus. The virus don't care.

Like it or not, you get the economy back when you get the Virus under control , not the other way around.

(07-07-2020 03:29 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 11:27 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 11:06 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 07:53 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

During the 1918 Spanish Flu, our grandparents and great grandparents wore masks even to things like football games. I can guarantee they didn’t cry and complain about it like some of us do today. The greatest generation just did what they had to do. They would honestly probably balk at some of the things we make a big stink about today.

Just my two cents.

I see this posted a lot. But never the mention that over 600k deaths came along with that method of thinking. I'm pretty sure many of them would balk at people saying cigarettes are bad for you too but guess what...

This thing is really exposing the ignorance of the US in a major way. While the rest of the modern world has at the very least kept this thing under control, we're a laughing stock. And you see posts in here like this and it makes sense as to why.

Things really weren't that different.

I didn't think Eugene Schmitz was all that interesting of a speaker

LOL

I don't know how good of an orator he was but 'ol Handsome Gene's wiki page was pretty interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Schmitz

I saw my first symptoms on June 20th. (Positively diagnosed on the 30th). 17 days later on July 7th I’m still feeling it. I have congestion just sitting in my chest causing a constant shallow cough.

It affects everyone differently. My girlfriend who’s got mild asthma has had it sitting in her sinuses and not so much her lungs like I have.

(07-07-2020 05:01 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  I saw my first symptoms on June 20th. (Positively diagnosed on the 30th). 17 days later on July 7th I’m still feeling it. I have congestion just sitting in my chest causing a constant shallow cough.

It affects everyone differently. My girlfriend who’s got mild asthma has had it sitting in her sinuses and not so much her lungs like I have.

Curious how old are you?

How long are you contagious? I guess as long as your symptomatic but 17 days seems like a loong time.

Any idea where you picked it up?

(07-07-2020 03:43 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 09:30 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 09:18 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 07:32 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 05:13 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Over in the "what do you do" thread, I'm really surprised more people on here didn't say "epidemiologist."

Interesting point. Because I don’t want to hear epidemiologists tell us when we should open businesses back up, because they are not economists.

Soooo, I guess in your mind ECONOMISTS should be the experts on a Health Care issue . . . . That's Brilliant thinkin' right there.

NEWS FLASH: Virus don't care about your economic plans . . . Don't care about your businesses . . . . Don't care when you want to reopen.

You want Business Back, you want customers to have faith/trust in returning to those businesses . . . .

Get the Virus under Control.

No. I want economists to be the experts on economic issues.

They all agree we’ve wrecked our economy, and we can’t continue to do so.

I don’t think Dr. Joe Blow Virus Alarmist understands the societal fallout from shutting down the economy indefinitely.

Look across the country right now. Murders are sky rocketing in the cities that locked down. This is just the beginning if the country shuts down again.

You want to talk about loss of life? Stop worrying about flu 2.0 and start worrying about Great Depression 2.0.

The US makes up approximately 4.5% of the World's Population, yet we lead the world in COVID cases, approximately 3 million and COVID Deaths, approximately 131,000.

Almost every other country dealing with this thing has managed to get it somewhat under control, flatten the curve, except The U.S.

Here, there is NO unified National Response to this crisis, Probably a major contributing factor to our inability to control the spread of the Disease.

The experts (scientists and Doctors not economists) warned the country that if states tried to open too soon, we'd see this thing spike again . . . . and here we are.

Almost every state that reopened early is seeing COVID spikes, and at least 20 states have now either stopped or reversed their attempted reopenings.

There are Hospitals in Fla. and TX that are rapidly approaching capacity. Your calling this "The Flu 2.0" is amusing, though I doubt Front line Doctors and Nurses who've been fighting this thing day in and day out would see any humor. Many of these people are working double shifts, some away from their families in order to limit infecting them, many have fallen by the wayside. BTW, lose enough Doctors and Nurses, and who is going to take care of the sick and dying? Your economists?

Nobody wants the country in lockdown indefinitely, sorry if this Health Care Emergency is an inconvenience to you. Everyone wants the economy reopened and a return to normalcy. But it's not going to happen just because you want it to, and it's not going to happen by ignoring this Virus. The virus don't care.

Like it or not, you get the economy back when you get the Virus under control , not the other way around.

No thanks. I’ll stick with the reopening now, thanks.

Already been through the whole discussion about the death count being bogus so I’m not going to rehash all of that.

By the way, spare me the lecture about the medical professionals. My brother is a doctor in a hospital, my younger sister is a nurse, and my mother is a nurse. They’re all in the hospital every day. I hear directly from them what they think about this, so you giving me your opinion of how they feel is irrelevant.

(07-06-2020 07:53 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

During the 1918 Spanish Flu, our grandparents and great grandparents wore masks even to things like football games. I can guarantee they didn’t cry and complain about it like some of us do today. The greatest generation just did what they had to do. They would honestly probably balk at some of the things we make a big stink about today.

Just my two cents.

Uh, actually they had the same problem with mask wearing than that we do today. There were entire anti mask organizations that sprouted up.

(07-07-2020 03:43 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 09:30 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 09:18 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 07:32 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 05:13 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Over in the "what do you do" thread, I'm really surprised more people on here didn't say "epidemiologist."

Interesting point. Because I don’t want to hear epidemiologists tell us when we should open businesses back up, because they are not economists.

Soooo, I guess in your mind ECONOMISTS should be the experts on a Health Care issue . . . . That's Brilliant thinkin' right there.

NEWS FLASH: Virus don't care about your economic plans . . . Don't care about your businesses . . . . Don't care when you want to reopen.

You want Business Back, you want customers to have faith/trust in returning to those businesses . . . .

Get the Virus under Control.

No. I want economists to be the experts on economic issues.

They all agree we’ve wrecked our economy, and we can’t continue to do so.

I don’t think Dr. Joe Blow Virus Alarmist understands the societal fallout from shutting down the economy indefinitely.

Look across the country right now. Murders are sky rocketing in the cities that locked down. This is just the beginning if the country shuts down again.

You want to talk about loss of life? Stop worrying about flu 2.0 and start worrying about Great Depression 2.0.

The US makes up approximately 4.5% of the World's Population, yet we lead the world in COVID cases, approximately 3 million and COVID Deaths, approximately 131,000.

Almost every other country dealing with this thing has managed to get it somewhat under control, flatten the curve, except The U.S.

Here, there is NO unified National Response to this crisis, Probably a major contributing factor to our inability to control the spread of the Disease.

The experts (scientists and Doctors not economists) warned the country that if states tried to open too soon, we'd see this thing spike again . . . . and here we are.

Almost every state that reopened early is seeing COVID spikes, and at least 20 states have now either stopped or reversed their attempted reopenings.

There are Hospitals in Fla. and TX that are rapidly approaching capacity. Your calling this "The Flu 2.0" is amusing, though I doubt Front line Doctors and Nurses who've been fighting this thing day in and day out would see any humor. Many of these people are working double shifts, some away from their families in order to limit infecting them, many have fallen by the wayside. BTW, lose enough Doctors and Nurses, and who is going to take care of the sick and dying? Your economists?

Nobody wants the country in lockdown indefinitely, sorry if this Health Care Emergency is an inconvenience to you. Everyone wants the economy reopened and a return to normalcy. But it's not going to happen just because you want it to, and it's not going to happen by ignoring this Virus. The virus don't care.

Like it or not, you get the economy back when you get the Virus under control , not the other way around.

While we are talking about our lack of a National response to this (Which I admit has been the biggest problem) Lets look at what Western Europe, Australia, and New Zealand did (I'm using similar style democracies to ours because while China's method was no doubt...effective. They aren't exactly known for their many freedoms.

Every single one of those countries went to a total lockdown. They reached that method in different ways, but here were many of the notable restrictions on daily life

Spain: Children were under complete lockdown, they could not leave their home without special permission from the government or for medical care. This included even ordinary things like exercising. It had to be done inside the home.

France: Citizens required papers with police approval to leave their homes. This included grocery shopping etc. They were required to present papers to police if stopped showing where they were going.

UK: All non life sustaining businesses were closed. While not as heavily policed, Citizens were only allowed out for essential work, trips for groceries, medical care, pharmacies etc, and to provide care for a family member. They were allowed out once a day for exercise.

NZ: Level 4 lockdown was similar to that of the UK with the exception that exercise had to be done near the home. Things like grocery trips and medical care had to be done at places nearest to the home. No choices. They practically fired a government official because he took his family for a bike ride in the forest.

AUS: Total lockdown. It was heavily policed. Citizens were allowed outside of the home for only a few reasons. All of which needed to be documented if necessary. Citizens could not travel more than 50 meters from their home for any reason. State borders were completely shut to all but medical and government workers.

Now, without getting into follow ups as to how they managed to pull this off. Be honest and answer this question. Is there any chance on earth that any of these could be easily enforced given the way the US Works?

(07-07-2020 08:20 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  While we are talking about our lack of a National response to this (Which I admit has been the biggest problem) Lets look at what Western Europe, Australia, and New Zealand did (I'm using similar style democracies to ours because while China's method was no doubt...effective. They aren't exactly known for their many freedoms.

Every single one of those countries went to a total lockdown. They reached that method in different ways, but here were many of the notable restrictions on daily life

Spain: Children were under complete lockdown, they could not leave their home without special permission from the government or for medical care. This included even ordinary things like exercising. It had to be done inside the home.

France: Citizens required papers with police approval to leave their homes. This included grocery shopping etc. They were required to present papers to police if stopped showing where they were going.

UK: All non life sustaining businesses were closed. While not as heavily policed, Citizens were only allowed out for essential work, trips for groceries, medical care, pharmacies etc, and to provide care for a family member. They were allowed out once a day for exercise.

NZ: Level 4 lockdown was similar to that of the UK with the exception that exercise had to be done near the home. Things like grocery trips and medical care had to be done at places nearest to the home. No choices. They practically fired a government official because he took his family for a bike ride in the forest.

AUS: Total lockdown. It was heavily policed. Citizens were allowed outside of the home for only a few reasons. All of which needed to be documented if necessary. Citizens could not travel more than 50 meters from their home for any reason. State borders were completely shut to all but medical and government workers.

Now, without getting into follow ups as to how they managed to pull this off. Be honest and answer this question. Is there any chance on earth that any of these could be easily enforced given the way the US Works?

No, we would never fall for any of these plots by the Democrats.

(07-07-2020 05:30 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 05:01 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  I saw my first symptoms on June 20th. (Positively diagnosed on the 30th). 17 days later on July 7th I’m still feeling it. I have congestion just sitting in my chest causing a constant shallow cough.

It affects everyone differently. My girlfriend who’s got mild asthma has had it sitting in her sinuses and not so much her lungs like I have.

Curious how old are you?

How long are you contagious? I guess as long as your symptomatic but 17 days seems like a loong time.

Any idea where you picked it up?

36. I have no pre-existing lung problems like asthma. I don’t smoke.

Doctors aren’t sure how long you’re contagious after you’ve tested positive. They say you’re safe to go back to work after 14 days or symptoms improve. Also there’s no proof that once you’ve had it you can’t get it again.

It’s hard to say. I work at a radio station where most people are working from home. So it’s unlikely I got it there. Multiple people tested positive at my girlfriend’s lab but I showed symptoms before she did. It could’ve been a trip to Home Depot.

(07-08-2020 09:18 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 05:30 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 05:01 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  I saw my first symptoms on June 20th. (Positively diagnosed on the 30th). 17 days later on July 7th I’m still feeling it. I have congestion just sitting in my chest causing a constant shallow cough.

It affects everyone differently. My girlfriend who’s got mild asthma has had it sitting in her sinuses and not so much her lungs like I have.

Curious how old are you?

How long are you contagious? I guess as long as your symptomatic but 17 days seems like a loong time.

Any idea where you picked it up?

36. I have no pre-existing lung problems like asthma. I don’t smoke.

Doctors aren’t sure how long you’re contagious after you’ve tested positive. They say you’re safe to go back to work after 14 days or symptoms improve. Also there’s no proof that once you’ve had it you can’t get it again.

It’s hard to say. I work at a radio station where most people are working from home. So it’s unlikely I got it there. Multiple people tested positive at my girlfriend’s lab but I showed symptoms before she did. It could’ve been a trip to Home Depot.

I doubt you picked it up at Home Depot. We'd know by now if places like this are hot spots based on the number of employees testing positive. Who knows I guess just my assumption.

Symptoms present themselves at different times separated by as much or more than a week so you may well have gotten it from your girlfriend.

Gas stations seem to be the no brainer to me. Gotta use a napkin or gloves. I'd be curious to see a test of the numbers of pump handles that test positive. I'd be willing to bet the majority.

Thanks for the feedback. Hope all goes well with recovery..

(07-08-2020 09:18 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 05:30 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(07-07-2020 05:01 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  I saw my first symptoms on June 20th. (Positively diagnosed on the 30th). 17 days later on July 7th I’m still feeling it. I have congestion just sitting in my chest causing a constant shallow cough.

It affects everyone differently. My girlfriend who’s got mild asthma has had it sitting in her sinuses and not so much her lungs like I have.

Curious how old are you?

How long are you contagious? I guess as long as your symptomatic but 17 days seems like a loong time.

Any idea where you picked it up?

36. I have no pre-existing lung problems like asthma. I don’t smoke.

Doctors aren’t sure how long you’re contagious after you’ve tested positive. They say you’re safe to go back to work after 14 days or symptoms improve. Also there’s no proof that once you’ve had it you can’t get it again.

It’s hard to say. I work at a radio station where most people are working from home. So it’s unlikely I got it there. Multiple people tested positive at my girlfriend’s lab but I showed symptoms before she did. It could’ve been a trip to Home Depot.

So sorry you're having the problems. At age 36 this should be a warning to a lot of people that this isn't just something that gets to "old" people.