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RE: Tigers home football schedule
(07-01-2020 12:54 AM)Atlanta Wrote: (06-30-2020 03:13 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (06-29-2020 04:52 PM)Atlanta Wrote: (06-28-2020 09:07 AM)CKMcDan Wrote: (06-28-2020 09:05 AM)CKMcDan Wrote: With a tougher conference, it’s easier for Boise to go undefeated that it is for an AAC member. Also, with 6 NY6 bowl berths over the past 15 yrs, an undefeated Boise probably gets the NY6 berth over a 1-loss AAC champion.
As for us passing UCF - I’d have to disagree.... UCF has 3 NY6 bowl berths, and have won 2 of them. We only have one, and it was a loss. Plus, we haven’t beaten them in the past 4-5 yrs, including a couple of a$$ whoopin’s down in Orlando. Let’s beat them before we beat our chest.
As for the conference... We need for the Houston’s, SMU’s and Temple’s to keep getting better. The more good teams, the better our conference reputation becomes. We also need to keep building our Tiger brand so folks want to watch us on TV.
I meant... “with an easier conference” regarding Boise going undefeated.
I think BSU acknowledges a potential issue with their conference schedule by consistently scheduling a P5 every season + BYU OOC. In most recent years, poll voters tend to give BSU lot of love until they lose in-conference, especially if they can pull off a win in their P5 game like last season where they ranked ahead of the highest AAC school until they lost. Their combination of playing a P5 & BYU every year is a good one if they can beat BYU & go undefeated in-conference. BSU has, in fact, played BYU & 2 P5s in some years OOC which helped them financially even when they couldn't pull off an undefeated in-conference season.
I'll take it easy on you since someone else lit you up with a lot of what I was going to say, but in his unique way. The other point is even with the much bally-hooed OOC schedule of Boise, that you admire so much, they have played a grand total of 8 ranked teams in the 6 years of the CFP. During that same stretch, with our terrible OOC that you disdain, we have played 15 ranked teams.
That is more proof that what we currently do works. It's not the OOC games. Now there are certain changes that would certainly improve the schedule from ALL ASPECTS (financially, risk/reward, etc.). If we're doing H/H with G5's, I think we should look more to the MWC and less to the Sun. And if we're going with the Sun, then leverage for more 2-for-1's rather then H/H. And I'm not opposed to picking up a big time P5 here and there if you're going to do a buy game (rather than Arky or Purdue).
But multiple P5's year after year, with at least one on the road every year, is not an answer.
Now you change the discussion again. It's not a matter of whether I admire BSU's OOC schedule, it's that it has helped them receive 3 Fiesta bowl invites (& it got Boise their season opening game against UGA a few yrs ago too - big $$$) & we just rec'd our 1st NY6 bowl in our 80+yr history last yr - and the revenue that goes along with Boise playing their P5 OOC games in the reg season plus the bowl revenue. But you & others hang your hats on a one time NY6 bowl invite that we only rec'd because Boise lost in-conference & you want to claim we are scheduling right - SMH. Go look at the last season polls, after our lost to Temple we weren't even in the polls for weeks & Boise didn't drop until they lost in-conference. Until then, Boise was on track to get the NY6. And before you misrepresent me on something else, I don't think Boise plays better football than our Tigers but i do think with their approach to scheduling, if they go undefeated in the MWC & play tough OOC (even with a loss), Boise will get the NY6 bid against a record & schedule like we had last season. That's the problem with our approach to weak OOC scheduling, we leave revenue on the table, with the hopes it add wins & put us in a better polls position to take the NY6. But we have to win the conference to even have a chance - and how often will that happen - 2-3 times a decade? So what about all of those other years of leaving revenue on the table that we could have made against a better OOC schedule? And at the same time wins against UT-M, AR St, UL-Monroe, So AL, UTSA, Troy, GA St do nothing for revenue, nothing for putting fans in the stands & nothing for building our rep nationally. And BTW again I'm talking OOC schedule, other than playing OM when they were ranked when have we played a reg season game against a ranked OOC foe? Maybe UCLA until they played us - anyone else?
Just to show how completely dumb on every level your argument is.
Quote:It's not a matter of whether I admire BSU's OOC schedule, it's that it has helped them receive 3 Fiesta bowl invites
2019
Beat Florida State, loss to BYU costs them the NY6 game
2018
Beat BYU, loss to Oklahoma State costs them possible NY6 bid by early October when they lose in conference to San Diego State
2017
Losses to Washington State and Virginia eliminate them from NY6 consideration by the 3rd week of September, beat BYU
2016
Beat unranked Washington State, unranked Oregon State, unranked BYU, but lose 2 conference games including CCG. Get no credit for any of them as they go from #13 to #24 after their first loss and finish the season unranked.
2015
Beat unranked Washington, beat unranked Virginia, lose to BYU the 2nd game of the season putting them in the same spot as Cincinnati last year; having to win 11 games in a row to maybe get the NY6 bowl bid.
Boise OOC Opponent Final Ranking
2019
UR - Florida State W
UR - BYU L
2018
UR - Florida State W
UR - Oklahoma State L
2017
UR - Washington State L
UR - Virginia L
UR - BYU W
2016
UR - Washington State W
UR - Oregon State W
UR - BYU W
2015
UR - Washington W
UR - BYU L
UR - Virginia W
MWC Conference Teams Ranked Going Into Bowl Season (Besides Boise)
2019 - 0
2018 - Fresno State (Boise lost to them)
2017 - 0
2016 - 0
2015 - 0
Memphis Opponents Ranked Going Into Bowl Season
2019 - Cincinnati (2), Navy (3-0)
2018 - UCF (2) (0-2)
2017 - UCF (2) (0-2)
2016 - Navy, Temple (1-1)
2015 - Temple, Navy, Houston, Ole Piss (1-3)
In the last 5 years, Boise has played 13 games against P5 opponents, with ZERO of them entering the bowl season ranked.
Wins Versus Ranked Opponents Going Into Bowl Season 2015-2019
5 Memphis
0 Boise
Again, sorry if I keep calling your arguments nonsense. A normal person would have stopped debating 5 posts ago.
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